Question for the PERRY FANACTICS.....

[ArnelRox]

I definately don't consider Talisman or JSS's solo stuff too metal tho.

Agreed, but not JRNYesgue at all. No way, no how.

I disagree w/this. I can quote several Journeyesque tunes from Talisman. Particularly the last album. & he did SHML on Essential Ballads. That is not only Journeyesque, but a Journey song!

[yak]

I think that the Perry people would have attacked JSS like a pack of mad dogs in 98. "Metalhead" and that kind of shit.

IMO.

I know for a fact that they would have, despite what they or their pals say now.

[tammy]

First off I know that NO ONE will replace Steve Perry's place in my heart (not that song)...I love him, love him, love him! But, I don't think I am a "fanatic" - those are crazy, delusional people who stalk!...I'm a regular person who happens to have had a pretty profound almost spiritual experience when I happened upon the music again. Anyway, I've seen SA with Journey in concert, watched the DVD, listened to their songs, etc....thought he was okay, but I definitely preferred SP's voice & style.

Saw JSS with SoulSirkUs and his solo gig and so I knew what he was like. I liked him...I like his no B.S. attitude & I saw his interaction with Neal & off stage with his family & friends. I didn't fall over SS 'cuz it was a harder Rock than I prefer, but I could tell Jeff had some power & energy. I have only seen/heard the boots of him with Journey, but he does seem to bring a fire/energy that is what I know from SP. I felt that SA was singing more to the front row of Augeriheads & he had a very low key attitude on stage.

I think I like the fact that there is that fire & passion for this music and great respect for Steve Perry - Jeff was influenced by SP, Jeff is a fan... and I think although SA had respect that he didn't have the SAME type as JSS.

Anyway, I know that Jeff & Deen as singers, will never pull the wool over the fans eyes!

[ArnelRox]

For every one of the six to seven Perryonly fans, here on this board, that have found favor with JSS, there are dozens on the other Steve Perry sites, that still can only relate to Perry.

I'm sorry they will miss out then.

[heardonthestreet]

For every one of the six to seven Perryonly fans, here on this board, that have found favor with JSS, there are dozens on the other Steve Perry sites, that still can only relate to Perry.

I'm sorry they will miss out then.

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Can't miss what you don't enjoy. Maybe I'll like something new from this new lineup but anyone covering the Journey hits is just paying tribute.

[ArnelRox]

For every one of the six to seven Perryonly fans, here on this board, that have found favor with JSS, there are dozens on the other Steve Perry sites, that still can only relate to Perry.

I'm sorry they will miss out then.

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Can't miss what you don't enjoy. Maybe I'll like something new from this new lineup but anyone covering the Journey hits is just paying tribute.

How do u know u wouldn't enjoy it if u have never given it a chance? Jeff live is something new. But carry on being miserable if u want. I'll go enjoy it & I won't even worry about u.

[tammy]

Well, it's okay...this doesn't take anything away from my support of SP! I will admit that if there is a concert of SP's on the same night as Journey you can bet I'd be going to SP. I can still go to a Journey concert, which is what, once a year? I'm still gonna praise SP any chance I get. Besides, I feel SP quite strong in the LIVE music because that is a HUGE PART OF HIM - his words & melody are there.

[ArnelRox]

Well, it's okay...this doesn't take anything away from my support of SP! I will admit that if there is a concert of SP's on the same night as Journey you can bet I'd be going to SP. I can still go to a Journey concert, which is what, once a year? I'm still gonna praise SP any chance I get. Besides, I feel SP quite strong in the LIVE music because that is a HUGE PART OF HIM - his words & melody are there.

Well said Tammy. I would also choose to go to SP if he was performing on the same nite as Journey. But let's face it, an SP concert is RARE & I'm still kicking myself for not going to more than 2 of the FTLOSM shows. But I have really grown to love Jeff in his own right & as a lead singer of Journey too. To me, that just means I get to enjoy even more stuff. I have this great collection of Jeff music that I never heard before. I feel like a kid in a giant candy store.

[heardonthestreet]

For every one of the six to seven Perryonly fans, here on this board, that have found favor with JSS, there are dozens on the other Steve Perry sites, that still can only relate to Perry.

I'm sorry they will miss out then.

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Can't miss what you don't enjoy. Maybe I'll like something new from this new lineup but anyone covering the Journey hits is just paying tribute.

How do u know u wouldn't enjoy it if u have never given it a chance? Jeff live is something new. But carry on being miserable if u want. I'll go enjoy it & I won't even worry about u.

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Come on JR. I went to their concert in Oct. It was alright as concerts go but I have to say that it was just not up to snuff. DL's was much better. JSS is alright as singers go, but he is not unique. He sounds like many other vocalists and even Augeri had a more unique voice, meaning that when Augeri sang, you could tell it was Augeri singing. When a few of the songs that made the radio from Arrival, were on the radio for awhile, Augeri's vocals were easy to recognize.

Why do you always state that people are being miserable or negative when they don't agree with you? Let's just agree to disagree, alright?

[ArnelRox]

Come on JR. I went to their concert in Oct. It was alright as concerts go but I have to say that it was just not up to snuff. DL's was much better. JSS is alright as singers go, but he is not unique. He sounds like many other vocalists and even Augeri had a more unique voice, meaning that when Augeri sang, you could tell it was Augeri singing. When a few of the songs that made the radio from Arrival, were on the radio for awhile, Augeri's vocals were easy to recognize.

Why do you always state that people are being miserable or negative when they don't agree with you? Let's just agree to disagree, alright?

Wow. Well u had a completely different experience than I did in Nov. then. I'm sorry, but I have to completely disagree about Soto's voice & its uniqueness. As I've listened to his back catalogue, his voice is very very unique & easily identifiable. Perry's voice, which to this day, I adore & consider #1, was like that too. I can pick out his voice in background vocals easily. But, if I only heard Perry once, I don't know that would be the case. I've listened to a LOT of Jeff's music going back to the mid-80s. I don't like ALL of it, but I LOVE a whole heck of a lot of it. I never considered Augeri's vocals unique. I could not easily recognize him if he sang a new song on the radio & I wasn't paying attention. I'd sure as heck recognize Neal's guitar tho.

I don't always say people are miserable or negative when they don't agree w/me. But u have said a lot of horrible, very miserable & negative things about Jeff that were completely uncalled for. Surely u realize that? If I went on a Perry board & said anything even close to as negative, I'd be banned in a second. (I'd never do that, I'm a huge Perry fan, but I'm making a point here.)

[*Laura]

There are many of you who have surprisingly come around to accepting Jeff as Journey's frontman......soooo my question is to you all....

EXACTLY what is it about Jeff that has caused you to have more of an open mind about Journey and it's prospects for the future now?

Just curious...

MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR!

John D.

It is indeed interesting how SP's die hard fans have come to embrace Jeff as the new lead singer of Journey,considering that for these fans no one could have ever replaced SP.
Well,that's the truth - Perry will forever remain THE voice of Journey,but a true Journey fan is an open minded person who is not led by fanaticism.
I personally am in this category of fans,because I am driven by my keen sense for music,not by some inflexible religious-like sentiment towards the changes in Journey.
I accept changes and I welcome them wholeheartedly especially when they improve something that wasn't right.
With that being said,I can answer your Q,John,by comparing SA with JSS.
IMO Jeff is lifting Journey up from the dust.I was really saddened to see this once great band reduced to a non-prolific act.
This happened mostly because Augeri didn't have enough chemistry with the rest of the band and viceversa.Bad marriage.
I just knew that someday it will end up with a divorce,and frankly I hope this will make the SP fanatics understand that the split didn't happen because of SP's *ghost* haunting the band,but because the lack of that much needed kinship between SA and Journey.
Also,I strongly believe that the split would've happened with or without Tapegate.The exposure of the fraud did nothing but speed up an already agonizing death.

Why do I like Jeff?
Because he is a genuine artist and I sense that he is in the same breed as Steve Perry.Passion,soul,hard work,inspiration,commitment.No fakery,no shalowness,no compromise.Jeff is all that.
He has what Journey needs.

I have seen JSS fronting Journey live,and I know what he is capable of.I can honestly say that Journey has a future.

[NealIsGod]

Don't waste your breath on HOTS, JR. She is still pissed at JSS for daring to defend himself when she posts her crap about him.

[conversationpc]

JSS is alright as singers go, but he is not unique. He sounds like many other vocalists and even Augeri had a more unique voice, meaning that when Augeri sang, you could tell it was Augeri singing. When a few of the songs that made the radio from Arrival, were on the radio for awhile, Augeri's vocals were easy to recognize.

Are you smoking crack? Jeff has one of the more unique voices in the business, in my opinion, and certainly sounds less like Perry than Augeri does. The only time I've ever thought he sounded like someone else was in his early days with Yngwie's band, when he sounded a good bit like Ronnie James Dio.

[NealIsGod]

JSS is alright as singers go, but he is not unique. He sounds like many other vocalists and even Augeri had a more unique voice, meaning that when Augeri sang, you could tell it was Augeri singing. When a few of the songs that made the radio from Arrival, were on the radio for awhile, Augeri's vocals were easy to recognize.

Are you smoking crack? Jeff has one of the more unique voices in the business, in my opinion, and certainly sounds less like Perry than Augeri does. The only time I've ever thought he sounded like someone else was in his early days with Yngwie's band, when he sounded a good bit like Ronnie James Dio.

See my post above yours.

[conversationpc]

JSS is alright as singers go, but he is not unique. He sounds like many other vocalists and even Augeri had a more unique voice, meaning that when Augeri sang, you could tell it was Augeri singing. When a few of the songs that made the radio from Arrival, were on the radio for awhile, Augeri's vocals were easy to recognize.

Are you smoking crack? Jeff has one of the more unique voices in the business, in my opinion, and certainly sounds less like Perry than Augeri does. The only time I've ever thought he sounded like someone else was in his early days with Yngwie's band, when he sounded a good bit like Ronnie James Dio.

See my post above yours.

Yeah, I saw it. Still had to do it, though...

[ArnelRox]

Don't waste your breath on HOTS, JR. She is still pissed at JSS for daring to defend himself when she posts her crap about him.

Ur right Niggy, I forgot about that.

[AR]

JSS is alright as singers go, but he is not unique. He sounds like many other vocalists and even Augeri had a more unique voice, meaning that when Augeri sang, you could tell it was Augeri singing. When a few of the songs that made the radio from Arrival, were on the radio for awhile, Augeri's vocals were easy to recognize.

Are you smoking crack? Jeff has one of the more unique voices in the business, in my opinion, and certainly sounds less like Perry than Augeri does. The only time I've ever thought he sounded like someone else was in his early days with Yngwie's band, when he sounded a good bit like Ronnie James Dio.

Soto sounds a lot like Joe Lynn Turner on "Believe in Me" and some other songs. Not all the time, but that is the closest comparision I have.

[Deb]

It is indeed interesting how SP's die hard fans have come to embrace Jeff as the new lead singer of Journey,considering that for these fans no one could have ever replaced SP.
Well,that's the truth - Perry will forever remain THE voice of Journey,but a true Journey fan is an open minded person who is not led by fanaticism.
I personally am in this category of fans,because I am driven by my keen sense for music,not by some inflexible religious-like sentiment towards the changes in Journey.
I accept changes and I welcome them wholeheartedly especially when they improve something that wasn't right.
With that being said,I can answer your Q,John,by comparing SA with JSS.
IMO Jeff is lifting Journey up from the dust.I was really saddened to see this once great band reduced to a non-prolific act.
This happened mostly because Augeri didn't have enough chemistry with the rest of the band and viceversa.Bad marriage.
I just knew that someday it will end up with a divorce,and frankly I hope this will make the SP fanatics understand that the split didn't happen because of SP's *ghost* haunting the band,but because the lack of that much needed kinship between SA and Journey.
Also,I strongly believe that the split would've happened with or without Tapegate.The exposure of the fraud did nothing but speed up an already agonizing death.

Why do I like Jeff?
Because he is a genuine artist and I sense that he is in the same breed as Steve Perry.Passion,soul,hard work,inspiration,commitment.No fakery,no shalowness,no compromise.Jeff is all that.
He has what Journey needs.

I have seen JSS fronting Journey live,and I know what he is capable of.I can honestly say that Journey has a future.

Great post Shania, you put into words exactly how I feel too.

HOTS somehow you equate enjoying the JSS/Journey lineup as taking something away from being a Perry fan (like you can't be both?)......I don't.....simple as that! Do you think Perry only listens to ONE vocalist?

[PROPERRY]

It is indeed interesting how SP's die hard fans have come to embrace Jeff as the new lead singer of Journey,considering that for these fans no one could have ever replaced SP.
Well,that's the truth - Perry will forever remain THE voice of Journey,but a true Journey fan is an open minded person who is not led by fanaticism.
I personally am in this category of fans,because I am driven by my keen sense for music,not by some inflexible religious-like sentiment towards the changes in Journey.
I accept changes and I welcome them wholeheartedly especially when they improve something that wasn't right.
With that being said,I can answer your Q,John,by comparing SA with JSS.
IMO Jeff is lifting Journey up from the dust.I was really saddened to see this once great band reduced to a non-prolific act.
This happened mostly because Augeri didn't have enough chemistry with the rest of the band and viceversa.Bad marriage.
I just knew that someday it will end up with a divorce,and frankly I hope this will make the SP fanatics understand that the split didn't happen because of SP's *ghost* haunting the band,but because the lack of that much needed kinship between SA and Journey.
Also,I strongly believe that the split would've happened with or without Tapegate.The exposure of the fraud did nothing but speed up an already agonizing death.

Why do I like Jeff?
Because he is a genuine artist and I sense that he is in the same breed as Steve Perry.Passion,soul,hard work,inspiration,commitment.No fakery,no shalowness,no compromise.Jeff is all that.
He has what Journey needs.

I have seen JSS fronting Journey live,and I know what he is capable of.I can honestly say that Journey has a future.

Great post Shania, you put into words exactly how I feel too.

HOTS somehow you equate enjoying the JSS/Journey lineup as taking something away from being a Perry fan (like you can't be both?)......I don't.....simple as that! Do you think Perry only listens to ONE vocalist?

Well I stated my feelings here, I am still sticking with Steve Perry. This question (why can't you like both?) is what WE Perry fans HEARD ALL the time from the Augeri fans. That NEVER made me change my feelings about Augeri, or jump on the band wagon of liking him just because other fans did. I just grew more tired of the question that's all.

The Journey I love BEST IS and ALWAYS will be WITH Steve Perry!!! That is how *I* FEEL! Not all Perry fans have to be in agreement about JSS.

Lori

[NealIsGod]

The Journey I love BEST IS and ALWAYS will be WITH Steve Perry!!!

Me too, and I don't expect that to change. But I am excited about what JSS is going to bring.

[Red13JoePa]

It's simple, really.

He doesn't sound enough like Perry on a song in and song out basis to be percieved as a threat or ripoff to the loons


Believe me, if he did he'd be cast in the same die as Augeri was by the heads.

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

[NealIsGod]

It's simple, really.

He doesn't sound enough like Perry on a song in and song out basis to be percieved as a threat or ripoff to the loons


Believe me, if he did he'd be cast in the same die as Augeri was by the heads.

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

Yeah, but they sure would have sounded a lot like the Perry-era.

[AR]

It's simple, really.

He doesn't sound enough like Perry on a song in and song out basis to be percieved as a threat or ripoff to the loons


Believe me, if he did he'd be cast in the same die as Augeri was by the heads.

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

And if Jeff had been the replacement in 1998, he'd be getting destroyed by the loons as well.

"Not enough like Perry" "Too much like Perry" You can't win.

[Jeremey]

The key to acceptance is always to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the original!!

[ArnelRox]

And if Jeff had been the replacement in 1998, he'd be getting destroyed by the loons as well.

"Not enough like Perry" "Too much like Perry" You can't win.

Well we'll never know for sure, but I'd like to think Jeff would have been accepted a lot better even back then.

Nice sig, btw. Thanks for the laugh.

[Red13JoePa]

It's simple, really.

He doesn't sound enough like Perry on a song in and song out basis to be percieved as a threat or ripoff to the loons


Believe me, if he did he'd be cast in the same die as Augeri was by the heads.

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

And if Jeff had been the replacement in 1998, he'd be getting destroyed by the loons as well.

"Not enough like Perry" "Too much like Perry" You can't win.

Oh yea. the first guy was gonne GET it no matter what in 1998, even if it was JSS simply for being the first guy AFTER.
Now that Augeri blazed the way and JSS sounds more like JSS than he does Perry/Augeri/Deen it's not totally open season on him for everyone (outside of the bug-eyed Hotsie types).
Because the more manic heads got a load of JDouble and went "***Phew***well at least we don't have to read the reviews Augeri was getting regularly in '98, '99, 2001 saying 'if you closed your eyes, you could almost believe it was Perry up there.'"

For them Deen is ok as a 1-or 2 song novelty, but if it had become a full time gig, sounding like he does, look out Baby.
Look no further than the fringy Manson-Lamped types who like the '72 Dolphins who get together every year and party when the last undefeated that given year loses, held online celebrations LAST year when Castronovo hurt a chord during the Gens tour when a lot of reviewers were hearing him sing and going "holy SHIT!!! He sounds even more like Perry than the lead singer!".

[ArnelRox]

at least we don't have to read the reviews Augeri was getting regularly in '98, '99, 2001 saying 'if you closed your eyes, you could almost believe it was Perry up there.'"

I wasn't around back then but I don't know how anyone could have said Augeri sounded like Perry if u closed ur eyes. It seems to me, from what I've read, most of the really staunch Augeri fans were not big Perry fans. Many of them never saw Perry live at all. I think their only Journey experience was w/Augeri so in their minds, he's "it".

If that's true about people celebrating when Deen had vocal cord problems, that is really really sick.

[Deb]

Great post Shania, you put into words exactly how I feel too.

HOTS somehow you equate enjoying the JSS/Journey lineup as taking something away from being a Perry fan (like you can't be both?)......I don't.....simple as that! Do you think Perry only listens to ONE vocalist?

Well I stated my feelings here, I am still sticking with Steve Perry. This question (why can't you like both?) is what WE Perry fans HEARD ALL the time from the Augeri fans. That NEVER made me change my feelings about Augeri, or jump on the band wagon of liking him just because other fans did. I just grew more tired of the question that's all.

The Journey I love BEST IS and ALWAYS will be WITH Steve Perry!!! That is how *I* FEEL! Not all Perry fans have to be in agreement about JSS.

Lori

I agree with you on Perry being the Best Journey vocalist (my fav vocalist in the last 25 years period).....and yes not everybody has to agree on JSS. Everybody has different preferences and although Augeri did nothing for me, I'm not going to knock the guy. I am not a bandwagon jumper, if I like it...I like it, if I don't....I don't, period (no critic or fan is going to change my opinion). I haven't been to a Journey concert yet with JSS and have seen a few boots/youtubes......so actually I am going more on his previous work of the dvds I have. He shares alot of Perry's qualities and that has me intrigued..........so to say you are 'sticking with Perry' as if I'm not, is just plain crazy! Perry respects his previous bandmates and likes Jeff's work enough to buy it himself.......so I'm thinking Perry is probably ok with some of us die-hard fans being a fan of JSS's too.

[*Laura]

The key to acceptance is always to be the guy who replaces the guy who replaced the original!!

Food for thought...Hmm.

[Deb]

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

Disagree with you there......don't think it is actually possible to 'bash' Castronovo....unless you have a heart of stone.