Kevin Chalfant and Open Arms

by **squirt1** » Thu May 03, 2007 2:23 pm

What exactly has KC done in the last 20 yrs or is that 30 yrs? Go write some new songs and record them. This is a bottom of the barrel search for a few $$$. I hope Augeri is legally prohibited from re-recording ANY Journey song he did not write.

by **stevew2** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:14 pm

Im sorry but Kevin is a poor cover.At least Steve A made a good attempt, and sounded fucking good for a a few years.Jeremey blows any cover singer period,in fact he he puts his own emotion into the the Journey sound. i wasnt impressed at all

by **The Fly** » Thu May 03, 2007 3:20 pm

stevew2 wrote:Im sorry but Kevin is a poor cover.At least Steve A made a good attempt, and sounded fucking good for a a few years.Jeremey blows any cover singer period,in fact he he puts his own emotion into the the Journey sound. i wasnt impressed at all

Why post anything at all if it's just not nice? I have my own opinion but I am not going to cut anyone down. I think this CD has struck a nerve with some people. :lol:

And I for one am glad and know why. :roll:

Have a great day!

by **Jeremey** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:24 pm

Monker wrote:[

I also think it's worth pointing out when a tribute band singer 'pokes fun' at another singer who is paying tribute to the very same band.

Again, I was only pointing out that the guy said he had kept better songs in his sock drawer than were on Trial By Fire. If he actually said, "I wrote better songs with Neal, Ross, and Gregg, and I keep them in my sock drawer," then I admit I was wrong in quoting the guy, but I still say - Release those songs!! I am not taking anything out of context though - My memory was that he was asked about TBF and he said "I have better songs sitting in my sock drawer." I can't find that interview anywhere now - If you've got access to it, please point me in the right direction!

LOL...he didn't say HE wrote better songs then Journey...He is saying he wrote better songs WITH JOURNEY then are on TBF. Too funny. As usual, people love to take statement completely out of context to back up their own feelings on something. He also said in that interview that he prefers the Departure era of Journey. TBF is FAR away from the Departure sound, or what he did with Gregg, Ross, and Steve Smith in the Storm...So, he doesn't care much for TBF, and I don't think he likes ROR much either. He holds the band up to different standards and he knows what they are capable of because HE HAS WRITTEN WITH THEM, and performed with them.

Again - That's completely different from my recollection of his comments. As I said, I can't find them now, but I certainly don't remember them well enough to take them out of context. As well as backing up my own feelings about something - Why would I care about KC recording a record of Journey songs??! My comment had nothing to do with how I felt about him recording them, I could care less!! It had to do with my recollection of something he had said about his songwriting ability versus the platinum record released with Steve Perry, whom he was passed over in favor of.

by **wildone** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:49 pm

squirt1 wrote:He has a great voice but should write his own music and move on. He did not have hits with these songs so to me it is just another cover.

Isn't that what there basically doing now??

by **Eric** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:52 pm

RockinDeano wrote: TBF BLOWS away Arrival.

Blows it away for taking a nap.....

by **Eric** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:54 pm

The Fly wrote: Why post anything at all if it's just not nice?

Ever been on a message board or forum before?????

by **The Fly** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:31 pm

Eric wrote:
The Fly wrote: Why post anything at all if it's just not nice?

Ever been on a message board or forum before?????

Yes, and it's why I pretty much stay away for the most part these days. :wink:

by **Rockindeano** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:08 am

The Fly wrote:Why post anything at all if it's just not nice? I have my own opinion but I am not going to cut anyone down. I think this CD has struck a nerve with some people. And I for one am glad and know why.

Oh YOU know why? Care to share fleabag?

by **Art Vandelay** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:37 am

The tracks all sound so plastic and boring. They're no different than any of the other tribute versions out there on I-Tunes.

They're all (mostly) sung by talented vocalists, but there's no soul or passion. Pointless.

by **The Fly** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:45 am

RockinDeano wrote:
The Fly wrote:Why post anything at all if it's just not nice? I have my own opinion but I am not going to cut anyone down. I think this CD has struck a nerve with some people. And I for one am glad and know why.

Oh YOU know why? Care to share fleabag?

You figure it out. :lol:

by **NealIsGod** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:49 am

E5C4P33 wrote:The tracks all sound so plastic and boring. They're no different than any of the other tribute versions out there on I-Tunes.

They're all (mostly) sung by talented vocalists, but there's no soul or passion. Pointless.

Jeremey sent me CDs of their show in NC a month or two ago. It's like having a "new old" Journey boot.

by **McNeil** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:56 am

Most people in this thread, seem to have latched on to this "he's putting no soul or feeling" into it vibe!!

What makes people say that..... ?? All I hear is a class singer...doin justice to the songs.... and he is putting his own inflections in there. JSS is great...but Kevin would have continued the legacy of that certain Journey "sound" ..that we all know exists.

Maybe he will have his shot..in a couple years. I think JSS will move on from Journey, after a short stay... he is too "vital" in energy and ambition to hang around too long. He will record an album with them ..then move on to other projects!!

You heard it first here folks !!

Kev has already proved he can out -journey "Journey" ..with both of "The Storm" albums!! each one a classic!

by **Matthew** » Fri May 04, 2007 12:58 am

McNeil wrote:Kev has already proved he can out -journey "Journey" ..

Steady on, McNeil....

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri May 04, 2007 1:00 am

McNeil wrote:Most people in this thread, seem to have latched on to this "he's putting no soul or feeling" into it vibe!!

What makes people say that..... ??

I love this, too.

How the HELL can one guague that?!?! :roll:

by **The Fly** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:20 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
McNeil wrote:Most people in this thread, seem to have latched on to this "he's putting no soul or feeling" into it vibe!!

What makes people say that..... ??

I love this, too.

How the HELL can one guague that?!?!

One can't. :lol:

Only the man (or woman) who sings it can. You know I just wasn't feelin it tonight dog....

by **Monker** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:43 am

McNeil wrote:What makes people say that..... ?? All I hear is a class singer...doin justice to the songs.... and he is putting his own inflections in there. JSS is great...but Kevin would have continued the legacy of that certain Journey "sound" ..that we all know exists.

EXACTLY...and it's funny that most of these same people have said JSS is a chameleon and can change his sound to be this and that...but, all he gets is praise for putting Perry's 'inflections' into the songs. Like when "Open the Door" was posted...

The TRUTH is that Chalfant just sounds that way naturaly. He's not changing the colors of his voice...it's been that way from the beginning.

by **Aaron** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:48 am

Dude,

You are WAY off base here. TBF can't hold a dick snot drip to Arrival. Arrival has some good rock songs and a couple of decent ballads. TBF had one good ballad and the rest PISSED ME OFF to listen too. TBF was a middle of the road adult contemporary release at best. I'll take a good rock record please. Are you getting soft with the twins coming on?

L8r bro,

Aaron

RockinDeano wrote:Trial By Fire Art is amazingly intelligent. It's biblical, as is the 2nd song One More.

TBF BLOWS away Arrival.

Perry v Augeri. Hmm, lets thin about that. Ok, done. TBF is twice the record.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue May 08, 2007 10:23 am

The Fly wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
McNeil wrote:Most people in this thread, seem to have latched on to this "he's putting no soul or feeling" into it vibe!!

What makes people say that..... ??

I love this, too.

How the HELL can one guague that?!?!

One can't. Only the man (or woman) who sings it can. You know I just wasn't feelin it tonight dog....

That, or it's an excuse when the vox go south of par.

by **Voyager** » Mon May 14, 2007 3:08 pm

Kevin Chalfant kicks ass. I still have the song Megaforce by 707 in my CD player. It is one of the best rock songs ever, but for some reason the radio stations never gave it the airplay it deserved back in the day.

by **Voyager** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:31 am

I'm thinking about cruising to Streator, Illinois this Saturday to see Kevin and his band at a free outdoor concert. It's not quite two hours away from me. Does anyone know what to expect for a set list? Will it be a mix of 707, The Storm, and cuts off his new Journey tribute CD? Also, does anyone know who Kevin is touring with? I take it that it's not going to be Josh Ramos, because he is working with Hugo now. Also, it looks like Ross Vallory, Steve Smith, and Gregg Rolie are busy at different gigs that night. One of the websites that I visited said that Kevin is currently gigging with "The Storm", but the band must have all new members. Does anyone know who they are?

by **Calbear94** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:38 pm

Big J wrote: The gift behind JSS's efforts and Augeri's for that matter is they took the songs and sung them as if they were their own. Chalfant's singing covers. There's a difference and I think it has less to do with the gender that's listening and more to do with being able to feel the heart behind the efforts.

I disagree. All three have covered Perry's songs, but the difference is that Augeri and JSS did it with help from the musicianship and production that being a member of Journey affords. In my opinion, the two albums that Chalfant did with the Storm compare quite favorably to anything that Journey has done studio or live since 1984.

I like what Chalfant has done here. This CD is no threat at all to the Journey machine, yet at the same time showcases enough of Chalfant's voice to make people take notice. It's almost as if he's pointing out here that Journey passed up a third chance to tab him as lead singer. And realistically, it was the last chance that Chalfant even remotely had to be considered for the job...he's not getting any younger. In eight years or so, when Soto's voice gives out Kevin will be too far beyond his prime.

For what it's worth, he could have sung these songs more like Perry. I have heard him do so on boots. I think he purposely tried to sound like Kevin Chalfant singing Journey songs rather than like Perry doing so. Hopefully, someday Rolie will get an urge to do another melodic rock album again and give Kevin a call.

It will be interesting to see what Hugo and Ramos do. Ramos is as a close to a Neal Schon that Hugo will ever get a chance to work with. If they could make an album like Hugo's first solo album that would be a nice accomplishment.

by **Calbear94** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:57 pm

McNeil wrote:All I hear is a class singer...doin justice to the songs.... and he is putting his own inflections in there. JSS is great...but Kevin would have continued the legacy of that certain Journey "sound" ..that we all know exists.

I agree strongly.

McNeil wrote:Maybe he will have his shot..in a couple years. I think JSS will move on from Journey, after a short stay... he is too "vital" in energy and ambition to hang around too long. He will record an album with them ..then move on to other projects!!

I doubt it. He is not going to find a larger payday anywhere else, at this point, unless he turns alt-rock. Journey can tour all-day successfully with Soto, but is there any creative magic? I haven't heard Winds of Freedom yet, but I was not impressed by Soul Sirkus nor the Generations album. Kevin Chalfant has a gift for lyrics, but musically his solo stuff has been lacking. I think Kevin's voice and lyrical talent would have been a good compliment to Neal Schon's guitar, and might have been enough to inspire Cain to write melodies of the quality he has in the past.

McNeil wrote:Kev has already proved he can out -journey "Journey" ..with both of "The Storm" albums!! each one a classic!

I think Kevin Chalfant would have been a better choice than Soto. If one thing has been proven, it is that KC can still sing. Even those who hated the idea of his Journey cover album acknowledged the "soul" in his voice. His recent work on Shooting Star material which is Kansas-esque was superb. Check out George's Song...amazing.

by **Calbear94** » Sat May 19, 2007 4:10 pm

Aaron wrote:Dude, You are WAY off base here. TBF can't hold a dick snot drip to Arrival. Arrival has some good rock songs and a couple of decent ballads. TBF had one good ballad and the rest PISSED ME OFF to listen too. TBF was a middle of the road adult contemporary release at best. I'll take a good rock record please. Are you getting soft with the twins coming on?

I've mostly agreed with you in the past, but I strongly disagree with this statement. I think that both albums and three or four really good songs, and the rest was mainly filler. I'd call it a tie, but give it to TBF because of Perry.

I really like the song Remember Me; it should have been on Arrival. Had it been, and a couple of tracks been left off, I probably would prefer Arrival to TBF.

by **Saint John** » Sun May 20, 2007 5:50 am

Well I think I'm in a VERY unique situation here. I've seen Chalfant, Soto, and Jeremey all in the last 8 days. I'll start with Kevin Chalfant. The man has a good voice. He can hit high notes but kind of like Hugo from Evolution, lacks power. His voice is not as thin as Hugo's but it's in the neighborhood. Jeff Scott Soto: An all around great singer. Very polished and professional. Sort of a chameleon in the way that he can make his voice sound very different from song to song. The most experienced and professional sounding artist of the 3. Great range, tone and delivery. Jeremey Hunsicker: The best pure voice of the 3. While not quite as polished as Soto, the guy can hit skyscraper notes and then sing a ballad that grabs your heart. A dead ringer for Perry. The guy should really consider some original music. He's THAT good. That is what I think of the 3. I enjoyed seeing all three of them immensely and consider myself very lucky to have done so. Thanks guys.

by **Blueskies** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:00 am

uh oh, it's like you crawled inside my head. Thats a scary thought! :shock:

very good assessment SJ.

by **Saint John** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:09 am

TVL wrote:uh oh, it's like you crawled inside my head. Thats a scary thought! very good assessment SJ.

That's just my 100% honest opinion. We DO think a lot alike on a few things, huh? :wink:

by **Blueskies** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:13 am

saint John wrote:
TVL wrote:uh oh, it's like you crawled inside my head. Thats a scary thought! very good assessment SJ.

That's just my 100% honest opinion. We DO think a lot alike on a few things, huh?

you want me to cop to that? :shock:

j/k

by **Jeremey** » Sun May 20, 2007 9:39 am

saint John wrote:Well I think I'm in a VERY unique situation here. I've seen Chalfant, Soto, and Jeremey all in the last 8 days. I'll start with Kevin Chalfant. The man has a good voice. He can hit high notes but kind of like Hugo from Evolution, lacks power. His voice is not as thin as Hugo's but it's in the neighborhood. Jeff Scott Soto: An all around great singer. Very polished and professional. Sort of a chameleon in the way that he can make his voice sound very different from song to song. The most experienced and professional sounding artist of the 3. Great range, tone and delivery. Jeremey Hunsicker: The best pure voice of the 3. While not quite as polished as Soto, the guy can hit skyscraper notes and then sing a ballad that grabs your heart. A dead ringer for Perry. The guy should really consider some original music. He's THAT good. That is what I think of the 3. I enjoyed seeing all three of them immensely and consider myself very lucky to have done so. Thanks guys.

Thanks, SJ - That is a huge compliment. It's my hope that with some time off from Frontiers over the summer (we started backing off gigs early on just in case), that I can get into some writing before the baby arrives. I'm glad you got to catch our show last week!

by **Saint John** » Sun May 20, 2007 9:47 am

Jeremey wrote:
saint John wrote:Well I think I'm in a VERY unique situation here. I've seen Chalfant, Soto, and Jeremey all in the last 8 days. I'll start with Kevin Chalfant. The man has a good voice. He can hit high notes but kind of like Hugo from Evolution, lacks power. His voice is not as thin as Hugo's but it's in the neighborhood. Jeff Scott Soto: An all around great singer. Very polished and professional. Sort of a chameleon in the way that he can make his voice sound very different from song to song. The most experienced and professional sounding artist of the 3. Great range, tone and delivery. Jeremey Hunsicker: The best pure voice of the 3. While not quite as polished as Soto, the guy can hit skyscraper notes and then sing a ballad that grabs your heart. A dead ringer for Perry. The guy should really consider some original music. He's THAT good. That is what I think of the 3. I enjoyed seeing all three of them immensely and consider myself very lucky to have done so. Thanks guys.

Thanks, SJ - That is a huge compliment. It's my hope that with some time off from Frontiers over the summer (we started backing off gigs early on just in case), that I can get into some writing before the baby arrives. I'm glad you got to catch our show last week!

Hey Jeremey, if I could ask a favor it would be this. I "youtubed" Suzanne Frontiers and you guys only have a 1 minute segment. Any way you could put up the whole thing? The cover you guys did was amazing!!

MR

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