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daytrpr wrote:Sorry to try to be rational, but is there actual a credible source regarding how this all went down? Everyone is assuming that Neal adnd Jon screwed Soto - and maybe they did - but has anyone actually provided any evidence that they jerked the guy over? Seriously...I've sifted through a million posts tonight and all I see is a lot of speculation about how it went down and the usual threats from Jabba the Hut. Is there more?
Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
froy wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
Bottom line is and I said it from the start
They used the guy to stay out of court
Soto was never going to be the lead singer of JRNY he did not match,
Kevin Chalfant will be the new singer im convinced,
His JRNY cover cd got him the gig
The guy can sing JRNY period.
froy wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
Bottom line is and I said it from the start
They used the guy to stay out of court
Soto was never going to be the lead singer of JRNY he did not match,
Kevin Chalfant will be the new singer im convinced,
His JRNY cover cd got him the gig
The guy can sing JRNY period.
Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
Thats no shit he posted just minutes before they broke the news and he was still waiting to hear.WalrusOct9 wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
It's speculation, but it's fact that JSS really had no idea what was going on until just before we knew. We don't know why, but we do know how poorly it was handled, and for that, Friga and Neal kind of deserve what they're getting (from fans here, at least).
I'm a musician, I completely understand band members not working out, it's life in a band, but there's a mature, professional way to handle it...and there's the Journey way.
Yep, they sure have their way.WalrusOct9 wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
It's speculation, but it's fact that JSS really had no idea what was going on until just before we knew. We don't know why, but we do know how poorly it was handled, and for that, Friga and Neal kind of deserve what they're getting (from fans here, at least).
I'm a musician, I completely understand band members not working out, it's life in a band, but there's a mature, professional way to handle it...and there's the Journey way.
Saint John wrote:froy wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
Bottom line is and I said it from the start
They used the guy to stay out of court
Soto was never going to be the lead singer of JRNY he did not match,
Kevin Chalfant will be the new singer im convinced,
His JRNY cover cd got him the gig
The guy can sing JRNY period.
Wrong. Some know all, some know none. You're the latter. Shut up. You look stupid.
at this point alot of people could finally give a rats ass!!Monker wrote:Saint John wrote:froy wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
Bottom line is and I said it from the start
They used the guy to stay out of court
Soto was never going to be the lead singer of JRNY he did not match,
Kevin Chalfant will be the new singer im convinced,
His JRNY cover cd got him the gig
The guy can sing JRNY period.
Wrong. Some know all, some know none. You're the latter. Shut up. You look stupid.
Yeah, and those who supposedly 'know all' said Journey would 'make waves' and release an album by the end of they year.
At this point, how can any of you speculate on what Journey will or will not do? What they say means very little - and you ALL should have known that a year ago.
WalrusOct9 wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
It's speculation, but it's fact that JSS really had no idea what was going on until just before we knew. We don't know why, but we do know how poorly it was handled, and for that, Friga and Neal kind of deserve what they're getting (from fans here, at least).
Monker wrote:Saint John wrote:froy wrote:Ridge wrote:You are so correct. Speculation and let's rip on Schon and Cain bullshit. Nobody knows anything. And maybe we never will, but you know the speculation and BS will never end with some.
Bottom line is and I said it from the start
They used the guy to stay out of court
Soto was never going to be the lead singer of JRNY he did not match,
Kevin Chalfant will be the new singer im convinced,
His JRNY cover cd got him the gig
The guy can sing JRNY period.
Wrong. Some know all, some know none. You're the latter. Shut up. You look stupid.
Yeah, and those who supposedly 'know all' said Journey would 'make waves' and release an album by the end of they year.
At this point, how can any of you speculate on what Journey will or will not do? What they say means very little - and you ALL should have known that a year ago.
Saint John wrote:Valid points....for once. Bottom line is this: KC will NOT be the new singer. That is a fact.
Monker wrote:
Yeah, the same points I was making six to eight months ago. Only this time you can't ignore them since Journey hit you in the gut and axed the future you were looking forward to.
lmao ....................................god I love this place!!!Moon Beam wrote:Monker wrote:
Yeah, the same points I was making six to eight months ago. Only this time you can't ignore them since Journey hit you in the gut and axed the future you were looking forward to.
Evening Monker.
You know it's funny, I feel all friendly and in the spirit of conversation
until I see you waltz in with that "I told ya so" attitude.
Now I just feel sleepy, thanks for the help in my search for slumber Sir.
wildone wrote:lmao ....................................god I love this place!!!Moon Beam wrote:Monker wrote:
Yeah, the same points I was making six to eight months ago. Only this time you can't ignore them since Journey hit you in the gut and axed the future you were looking forward to.
Evening Monker.
You know it's funny, I feel all friendly and in the spirit of conversation
until I see you waltz in with that "I told ya so" attitude.
Now I just feel sleepy, thanks for the help in my search for slumber Sir.
chad wrote:What I'm confused on is all the people "in the know" were ("by process of elimination") pointing fingers to Jeremey.
Also, why can't these people "in the know" speak freely. If they are not affiliated with Journey, there's no gag order law preventing them from speaking out.
It will be interesting to get JSS take.
wildone wrote:Thats no shit he posted just minutes before they broke the news and he was still waiting to hear.
Rick wrote:
She should do stand up with Deano.
Moon Beam wrote:Monker wrote:
Yeah, the same points I was making six to eight months ago. Only this time you can't ignore them since Journey hit you in the gut and axed the future you were looking forward to.
Evening Monker.
You know it's funny, I feel all friendly and in the spirit of conversation
until I see you waltz in with that "I told ya so" attitude.
Now I just feel sleepy, thanks for the help in my search for slumber Sir.
yeah and now it's closed!!daytrpr wrote:wildone wrote:Thats no shit he posted just minutes before they broke the news and he was still waiting to hear.
Now THAT would be interested. Did JSS really post hear as this all broke? I haven't been able to find that post.
Frankly, I have no problem with the band not keeping him on as singer. It's their choice to make, and better to make a chance now than down the road. Let's be honest...these guys are getting older, and they isn't necessarily a lot of road left.
HOWEVER, you don't need to cr#p all over a guy when you make a change. If JSS actually posted that he had no idea what was going on, that would be disturbing. And yeah, it's not like these guys (or Perry for that matter) have a great history in that regard. But if it didn't come straight from JSS's keyboard, I don't really place much confidence in what "those in the know" say if they can't back it up.
daytrpr wrote:wildone wrote:Thats no shit he posted just minutes before they broke the news and he was still waiting to hear.
Now THAT would be interested. Did JSS really post hear as this all broke? I haven't been able to find that post.
Frankly, I have no problem with the band not keeping him on as singer. It's their choice to make, and better to make a chance now than down the road. Let's be honest...these guys are getting older, and they isn't necessarily a lot of road left.
HOWEVER, you don't need to cr#p all over a guy when you make a change. If JSS actually posted that he had no idea what was going on, that would be disturbing. And yeah, it's not like these guys (or Perry for that matter) have a great history in that regard. But if it didn't come straight from JSS's keyboard, I don't really place much confidence in what "those in the know" say if they can't back it up.
Monker wrote:
Your welcome...but I haven't shoved the "I told you so" in your face nearly as much as other people here would have.
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