piecesofeight wrote:How was Jeremey dragged into this? We make our own choices rather to be a part of something or not.
Let's just speculate a bit. We do that well here, right? Let's say Jeremey was told Jeff was stepping down & asked if he would like the job. He had no idea Jeff was being fired. Now he learns that is not the case. But the thing is, he has already told family & friends that he will be taking the job. He has gotten everyone excited. Now what? Turn it down & look like an idiot for turning down the opportunity of a lifetime? (Maybe u think it's not an opportunity, but the way it was presented to him, maybe it seemed like it.) Jeremey is now in the middle of a mess if my speculation is anything like the truth, right? That's being "dragged into it"!
join and you are supporting Journey and not Jeff.
Ok if he knew about Jeff being fired I could see ur point. But read my speculation above. Now, how do u feel about it?
If he has such great character as many as saying, the same who are saying Neil and Jon are shitholes now, how is these two things mix to become something?
Again see above & add this. Jeremey read all Jeff said about Frig & Fro & they seemed like stellar guys. He hears Jeff is leaving & has this potential opportunity to join stellar guys, live his dream, perform on bigger stages than ever before, most likely make more money than ever before. This is not Jeremey's fault.
If he is fullfilling a dream and a chance to be financially better, it's ok to join these people you now think are scum?
I'm not trying to be an asshole. I have read and read and read through these post today, and it doesn't mix.
If you are going to just post to defend Jeremey again and what a great character he is and all that, then explain why it's ok.
Dude I am trying my best to explain this. I have never met Jeremey in person but everything I have known about the man is that he's a stellar stand up guy. I don't know what went down. But I know that if I was offered the job of singing w/my favorite band, if that was my lifelong ambition, if I had the chance to perform on bigger stages, in front of bigger crowds, make more money, & I was told it was kosher b/c their lead singer was leaving, Id be over it like white on rice. If after I believed in it, I was told something else went down, I'd be devastated. But if I had a kid on the way, I might still take the job. I dont know. Ive never been in those shoes. But Ive thought about it this past few days & this is where I'm at.
Many of the people who support Jeremey are the same one's who say they have 'known'
"Known" might mean hearing it somewhere else & at the same time hearing Jeff quit & thinking it was all a rumor. Later discovering Jeff didnt quit. That's all.
If you found out from Jeremey, then he is lieing in his post-great way to fit in right away.
I can honestly say I believe what Jeremey wrote on these forums & that is all I know.
Since he chose to post, then people have a right to address him.
Sure but do they have the right to attack him & call him "a joke"? I dont think that is fair.
You won't support Journey, but you will support him with Journey?
If this went down any other way, I'd be sitting in the front row if Jeremey gets the gig. Right now I can't fault Jeremey for taking the gig if he's offered but I can't support Journey whether he or someone else gets it.