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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:35 am

For the record, BA can NOT sing like this anymore. Here are my 2 favorite songs by him. Sorry for the gay General Hospital video, but he didn't make one for ONLA. The chick is pretty hot though. I'd throw my crank in her. The live version of Run To You is awesome. Dean, he simply can't perform at this level anymore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk4__bOXH4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M
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Postby Deb » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:05 pm

Saint John wrote:For the record, BA can NOT sing like this anymore. Here are my 2 favorite songs by him. Sorry for the gay General Hospital video, but he didn't make one for ONLA. The chick is pretty hot though. I'd throw my crank in her. The live version of Run To You is awesome. Dean, he simply can't perform at this level anymore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk4__bOXH4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M


A couple of my favorites too. And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:16 pm

Deb1 wrote: And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)


His name is Steve Burton and yeah, he's hot. :wink:
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:22 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
Deb1 wrote: And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)


His name is Steve Burton and yeah, he's hot. :wink:


Yeah, if I were gay I'd prolly stick it in his butt. :lol:
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Postby Deb » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:25 pm

Saint John wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Deb1 wrote: And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)


His name is Steve Burton and yeah, he's hot. :wink:


Yeah, if I were gay I'd prolly stick it in his butt. :lol:


What? I thought you only fucked yourself? Safe sex and all. :wink: :lol:
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Postby Deb » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:29 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
Deb1 wrote: And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)


His name is Steve Burton and yeah, he's hot. :wink:


That show's been on a looooooooong time, I remember that show being on TV when I was a teen.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:30 pm

Deb1 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Deb1 wrote: And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)


His name is Steve Burton and yeah, he's hot. :wink:


Yeah, if I were gay I'd prolly stick it in his butt. :lol:


What? I thought you only fucked yourself? Safe sex and all. :wink: :lol:



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Postby Deb » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:36 pm

Saint John wrote:
Deb1 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
Deb1 wrote: And the guy (Jason) in the GH vid isn't too bad either. :wink: :)


His name is Steve Burton and yeah, he's hot. :wink:


Yeah, if I were gay I'd prolly stick it in his butt. :lol:


What? I thought you only fucked yourself? Safe sex and all. :wink: :lol:



IF


Ya ya sure. That's the second time you've posted that particular vid with a disclaimer. I think I'm onto something here. :wink: :lol:
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Postby squirt1 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:47 pm

If Perry had significant voice problems and he stated he was taking vocals lessons recently, why then wouldn't he just get the surgery that Steven Tyler did? Maybe he doesn't need it? I know what I asked Uncle Joe and he has no reason to lie and he surely understands what fans want to know.
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Postby Rawbean » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:49 pm

Saint John wrote:For the record, BA can NOT sing like this anymore. Here are my 2 favorite songs by him. Sorry for the gay General Hospital video, but he didn't make one for ONLA. The chick is pretty hot though. I'd throw my crank in her. The live version of Run To You is awesome. Dean, he simply can't perform at this level anymore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk4__bOXH4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhmQTROY59M


Damn SJ...actually, thank you for the gay GH video!! :shock: I'm fanning myself :oops: So this is what housewives (and househusbands) are watching these days while we're at work?! That make-out session near the beginning was pretty damn hot...it definitely worked to keep ONLA in my head, yowza!
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Postby Rick » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:50 pm

squirt1 wrote:If Perry had significant voice problems and he stated he was taking vocals lessons recently, why then wouldn't he just get the surgery that Steven Tyler did? Maybe he doesn't need it? I know what I asked Uncle Joe and he has no reason to lie and he surely understands what fans want to know.


Surgery is a personal decision, not a group decision. :twisted:
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Postby squirt1 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:20 pm

Hey- Rick Very good !
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Postby Rick » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:41 pm

squirt1 wrote:Hey- Rick Very good !


I was hoping you would get that and not think I was being a smart ass. :D
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:52 pm

squirt1 wrote:If Perry had significant voice problems and he stated he was taking vocals lessons recently, why then wouldn't he just get the surgery that Steven Tyler did? Maybe he doesn't need it? I know what I asked Uncle Joe and he has no reason to lie and he surely understands what fans want to know.


Squirt, let me fill you in on something.

Uncle Joe is a fucking Disc Jockey. he loves his position of playing records for a living, and occasionally filling spots on his show with rock stars and thus NEVER alienating them. I on the other hand, don't give a flying shit about their feelings, unless obviously screwed over. I can tell you regarding Journey, I am much more a trusted source than Uncle Fucking Joe benson. I spent an hour down tghere with him last year during Tapegate. he listened to all the evidence and then told me I was full of innuendo and told me to get the fuck out of KLOS. Now, who do you want to come to for information?
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Postby Rhiannon » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm

RockinDeano wrote:
squirt1 wrote:If Perry had significant voice problems and he stated he was taking vocals lessons recently, why then wouldn't he just get the surgery that Steven Tyler did? Maybe he doesn't need it? I know what I asked Uncle Joe and he has no reason to lie and he surely understands what fans want to know.


Squirt, let me fill you in on something.

Uncle Joe is a fucking Disc Jockey. he loves his position of playing records for a living, and occasionally filling spots on his show with rock stars and thus NEVER alienating them. I on the other hand, don't give a flying shit about their feelings, unless obviously screwed over. I can tell you regarding Journey, I am much more a trusted source than Uncle Fucking Joe benson. I spent an hour down tghere with him last year during Tapegate. he listened to all the evidence and then told me I was full of innuendo and told me to get the fuck out of KLOS. Now, who do you want to come to for information?


Squirt, he has a point, take it from one who knows about the DJs-candyassing-stars.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:04 pm

RockinDeano wrote:
squirt1 wrote:If Perry had significant voice problems and he stated he was taking vocals lessons recently, why then wouldn't he just get the surgery that Steven Tyler did? Maybe he doesn't need it? I know what I asked Uncle Joe and he has no reason to lie and he surely understands what fans want to know.


Squirt, let me fill you in on something.

Uncle Joe is a fucking Disc Jockey. he loves his position of playing records for a living, and occasionally filling spots on his show with rock stars and thus NEVER alienating them. I on the other hand, don't give a flying shit about their feelings, unless obviously screwed over. I can tell you regarding Journey, I am much more a trusted source than Uncle Fucking Joe benson. I spent an hour down tghere with him last year during Tapegate. he listened to all the evidence and then told me I was full of innuendo and told me to get the fuck out of KLOS. Now, who do you want to come to for information?


Really???? I never knew that!

Dean, I get how you know about Journey stuff, but how is it that you're so confident about SP's voice now? I believe I've read that either Lora or Cyndy have commented that his voice is sounding really good. Certainly they can be trusted as reliable, close sources of information regarding Steve Perry. I personally don't know if he's still 'got it' or not. From what I can hear on this song though (which isn't much, cause I don't have a trained ear like many of you) he sounds pretty good.

It doesn't really matter if he's still 'got it' or not if we don't get to hear it... :?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:04 pm

Uncle Joe Benson is a tired old fart that has NO future. He gets to see old has been stars...He doesn't meet Bruce Springsteen, Bono or Jaeger..he meets Kevin fuckin Cronin, Ted Nugent and and the Blue Oyster Cult. Sadly, Perry is no bigger than those hackholes.
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Postby Rhiannon » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:09 pm

RockinDeano wrote:Uncle Joe Benson is a tired old fart that has NO future. He gets to see old has been stars...He doesn't meet Bruce Springsteen, Bono or Jaeger..he meets Kevin fuckin Cronin, Ted Nugent and and the Blue Oyster Cult. Sadly, Perry is no bigger than those hackholes.


He gets them on his show for the same reasons most DJs do with worn out has beens... disillusionment and self-inflation.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:12 pm

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RockinDeano wrote:Uncle Joe Benson is a tired old fart that has NO future. He gets to see old has been stars...He doesn't meet Bruce Springsteen, Bono or Jaeger..he meets Kevin fuckin Cronin, Ted Nugent and and the Blue Oyster Cult. Sadly, Perry is no bigger than those hackholes.


He gets them on his show for the same reasons most DJs do with worn out has beens... disillusionment and self-inflation.


Precisely. I believe that's what dean was getting at. He just says it a bit more colorfully. :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:17 pm

donnaplease wrote:Really???? I never knew that!


Now you do.


Dean, I get how you know about Journey stuff, but how is it that you're so confident about SP's voice now? I believe I've read that either Lora or Cyndy have commented that his voice is sounding really good. Certainly they can be trusted as reliable, close sources of information regarding Steve Perry. I personally don't know if he's still 'got it' or not. From what I can hear on this song though (which isn't much, cause I don't have a trained ear like many of you) he sounds pretty good.

It doesn't really matter if he's still 'got it' or not if we don't get to hear it... :?


Anyone who knows me knows I flatout love Cyndy and Lora and I respectfully disagree. Look, Steve and CP and LB are friends, and I won't say Lora is full of it...BUT,

Let's do the math. Any singer who still can sing, sings. Ok, let's play a game...Perry is a perfectionist...I get that..but if he could still sing lead, he would. ..he would accept an offer from Neal to come out and sing, for his fans, right? or he would at least put out a solo album, for his fans, right? or he he would do a soundtrack song right? Surely, if he could sing, he wouldn't waste a bunch of time on backup singing for a shit band like Guff. it doesn't take a genius to figure this one out. hell, George W Bush had this one nailed a long time ago. And all you fucking lopns, stop typing. i already know what yopu are going to say before you say it. I AM a huge SP fan. i am also an honest fan. Steve is done, sadly.
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Postby Rhiannon » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:23 pm

Saint John wrote:
Blue Radio Girl wrote:
RockinDeano wrote:Uncle Joe Benson is a tired old fart that has NO future. He gets to see old has been stars...He doesn't meet Bruce Springsteen, Bono or Jaeger..he meets Kevin fuckin Cronin, Ted Nugent and and the Blue Oyster Cult. Sadly, Perry is no bigger than those hackholes.


He gets them on his show for the same reasons most DJs do with worn out has beens... disillusionment and self-inflation.


Precisely. I believe that's what dean was getting at. He just says it a bit more colorfully. :lol:


That's a part of the experience.
But I know about that aformentioned because I've been guilty of it a time or two. Sadly one of those has-been-hacks was a Journeyman. Go figure.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:42 pm

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Anyone who knows me knows I flatout love Cyndy and Lora and I respectfully disagree. Look, Steve and CP and LB are friends, and I won't say Lora is full of it...BUT,

Let's do the math. Any singer who still can sing, sings. Ok, let's play a game...Perry is a perfectionist...I get that..but if he could still sing lead, he would. ..he would accept an offer from Neal to come out and sing, for his fans, right? or he would at least put out a solo album, for his fans, right? or he he would do a soundtrack song right? Surely, if he could sing, he wouldn't waste a bunch of time on backup singing for a shit band like Guff. it doesn't take a genius to figure this one out. hell, George W Bush had this one nailed a long time ago. And all you fucking lopns, stop typing. i already know what yopu are going to say before you say it. I AM a huge SP fan. i am also an honest fan. Steve is done, sadly.


Putting my loon hat back on for a minute...

WHY would he accept an offer from Neal???? You said it yourself, Neal has tried to 'trick' him into singing, to make himself look like a better person. It sounds like he's outsmarted Neal more than once... It's pretty apparent how incredibly stupid Neal is for allowing what has happened to this once great band.

I don't know why he does (or doesn't do) anything. Obviously he has his reasons. I'm not trying to discredit you, I just want to know how you know what you know. Is it speculation or is it fact? Reading your response, it sounds like it's speculation, but that's okay. I know ABSOLUTELY nothing, so everything I say is speculation! My point is that perhaps (and I don't know if this is true, so this is more of MY speculation) Lora or Cyndy have heard him sing. I don't know them as well as you do, having only met them once, but they don't strike me as the type of people who would say it if it weren't true. More than likely, they would refrain from saying anything.

I may agree that he is done (jury is still out on that one for me). But, if he is done, I don't believe it's because he can't sing. I believe it could possibly be because he doesn't have the heart to do it any more. I believe he may be somewhat grieving for "what was" and it may be preventing him from jumping back into the fray. That's how I interpret some of the things he's said in recent interviews.

I love how you added the little jab at George W. I don't get the connection, but I love ya for throwing it in there!!! :twisted:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:56 pm

donnaplease wrote:Putting my loon hat back on for a minute...

WHY would he accept an offer from Neal???? You said it yourself, Neal has tried to 'trick' him into singing, to make himself look like a better person. It sounds like he's outsmarted Neal more than once... It's pretty apparent how incredibly stupid Neal is for allowing what has happened to this once great band.


Not saying Neal outsmarted SP here, but he clearly comes out as being the "good guy:" with the good gesture. Neal was indeed smart for offering the olive branch knowing full well SP would never bite, and the media would talk to and favour the only talking party(Neal).....

I don't know why he does (or doesn't do) anything. Obviously he has his reasons. I'm not trying to discredit you,


Yes you are.

I just want to know how you know what you know. Is it speculation or is it fact? Reading your response, it sounds like it's speculation, but that's okay. I know ABSOLUTELY nothing, so everything I say is speculation! My point is that perhaps (and I don't know if this is true, so this is more of MY speculation) Lora or Cyndy have heard him sing. I don't know them as well as you do, having only met them once, but they don't strike me as the type of people who would say it if it weren't true. More than likely, they would refrain from saying anything.


Donna, I have yet to post any innuendo and you know that. I dig for my info and I post truth. Cyndy and Lora hopefully won'y hate me, but I have talked to people, musicians, close to Perry, that confirm he is a shell of himself. Sure he can sing half assed better than anyone else 100%, but he still can't sing to the level of his former self. That is Fact!

I may agree that he is done (jury is still out on that one for me). But, if he is done, I don't believe it's because he can't sing.


What? Makes no sense.

I believe it could possibly be because he doesn't have the heart to do it any more. I believe he may be somewhat grieving for "what was" and it may be preventing him from jumping back into the fray. That's how I interpret some of the things he's said in recent interviews.


No singer who can sing, stops singing.

I love how you added the little jab at George W. I don't get the connection, but I love ya for throwing it in there!!! :twisted:


Not a jab. he is the dumbest fucker in the USA and happens to hold the highest office in the world. I am sorry you support him. So embarrassing. He embarrasses me.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:30 pm

I wasn't around when the WOF thing happened, so I don't know who said what about that whole interaction (or lack thereof). Make up your mind though... was he being a schmuck and wanting to do it to make SP look bad, or was he doing it as a "good guy" making a "good gesture"? I don't think he's a very good guy, and I REALLY can't believe you're taking up for that dickweed.

I simply want to hear someone who has actual first-hand knowledge of his abilities say he "can't" before I will believe it.

The problem that I have with your truth on this subject Dean is that your truth seems to change depending on what mood you're in. One day you think Steve Perry is the next best thing to God, and the next you say he's shit. I am not doubting your credibility, but just trying to make you see that what you are saying is opinion, just like the rest of us have. There's nothing wrong with having whatever opinion you want to have, it's as individual as you are. But, it isn't a fact until there is proof. And if Steve Perry never sings/records/tours again, we really won't have that proof, so everything that ALL OF US are saying is really just a bunch of words on a website. And at the end of the day, who really gives a f*ck!!!?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:07 pm

donnaplease wrote:I wasn't around when the WOF thing happened, so I don't know who said what about that whole interaction (or lack thereof). Make up your mind though... was he being a schmuck and wanting to do it to make SP look bad, or was he doing it as a "good guy" making a "good gesture"? I don't think he's a very good guy, and I REALLY can't believe you're taking up for that dickweed.


Just saying it isn't all on him.

The problem that I have with your truth on this subject Dean is that your truth seems to change depending on what mood you're in.


You are drunk. You are fucking joking right?

One day you think Steve Perry is the next best thing to God, and the next you say he's shit.


I think he had the best voice ever, but dude was a big and I mean big prick.

I am not doubting your credibility


Yes you are.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:28 pm

donnaplease wrote:I wasn't around when the WOF thing happened, so I don't know who said what about that whole interaction (or lack thereof). Make up your mind though... was he being a schmuck and wanting to do it to make SP look bad, or was he doing it as a "good guy" making a "good gesture"? I don't think he's a very good guy, and I REALLY can't believe you're taking up for that dickweed.

I simply want to hear someone who has actual first-hand knowledge of his abilities say he "can't" before I will believe it.

The problem that I have with your truth on this subject Dean is that your truth seems to change depending on what mood you're in. One day you think Steve Perry is the next best thing to God, and the next you say he's shit. I am not doubting your credibility, but just trying to make you see that what you are saying is opinion, just like the rest of us have. There's nothing wrong with having whatever opinion you want to have, it's as individual as you are. But, it isn't a fact until there is proof. And if Steve Perry never sings/records/tours again, we really won't have that proof, so everything that ALL OF US are saying is really just a bunch of words on a website. And at the end of the day, who really gives a f*ck!!!?




Steve Perry's voice is as at least as good now as it was during the TBF era. THAT is from firsthand accounts. Some say his voice was in trouble then, but I don't think so. I really feel his heart wasn't into that album and in some ways it showed. Personally, I love the album but can see how others might not. I have no doubt that Steve Perry will one day put out another project, but highly doubt it will be with Journey. For the first time in a long time, he sounded as if he was having fun with the Guff tune and THAT is a good sign. For once, he sang on something other than a ballady wrist slasher.
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Postby scarygirl » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:37 pm

And so it goes, and so it goes. lol.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:39 pm

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RockinDeano wrote:Nice work Dan. Glad to see I am looked up so frequently. This was the height of Journey euphoria, not knowing lipping was happening, and battling with Loons...Oh I hate the loons....all of them.

I was SOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong there....but in my defense, I didn't know what was happening.

Point to you on this one, but in all hoesty, I might have been hammered to say Generations was better than escape. I did tell Neal he owed me 30 dollars for the shit that is Arrrival, 13 and Gens...he laughed.


Don't think for a second that I was gonna HOLD you to that review. Just had to remind you of it. :lol: Though it was bad, really bad, we all do it. My buddy still taunts me for saying the Spurs would be nuts to take Tim Duncan over Ron Mercer. He fucks with me all the time. I hate it.



A lot of Deano's review was dead on the coin with that album. I know he hates the latter part of the Augeri era now but the music spoken of glowingly in Dean's review stands on its own.
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Postby ArnelRox » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:44 pm

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JR (Susie) wrote:I listened 3 times so far. I want to believe, I really do, but this is the 1st time I've found myself thinking his voice is just not strong like it used to be. I won't judge for certain on this little bit of answer & backing vox.


I give JRox credit for typing this dose of reality, no matter how painful it may have been.


Thanks Joe. I do live in reality, even though I'm a loon.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:52 pm

sp hasn't stopped singing (he sings in the car, shower...). he just stopped recording & touring. maybe he just wants to have a "normal" life. }:C)
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