OT: New Movie Concern for Parents - The Golden Compass

[Abitaman]

Arrgggh!!! HOW THE HELL AM I TRYING TO FORCE IT ON ANYONE BY SIMPLY DISCUSSING IT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD?! It really gets maddening that simply having a strong opinion and not being afraid to discuss it, debate it, question it, etc., is equated with "forcing" it on everyone else.

Hilarious!!!!! Laying breadcrumbs to your church door again, luring the pigeons Dave? As Al Gore said on tv the other day regarding global warming, that the other side (skeptics) shouldn't get air time. Funny!

That's interesting. Seems to me that nobody on this forum started a, "WARNING to parents! - The _Chronicles of Narnia_ are really an allegory for the Christian gospel. Just thoght parents should know in case they want to keep their kids away!" threads. If he wants to play the victim here, that's his choice...nobody is saying he shouldn't have his say.us But, when he does have his say, his comments are open for critique. Implying, even sarcasticly, that the 'other side' dominates this topic on this forum is ludicrous.

Funny how we can just dog Journey for their stupid moves, and do it for pages on pages and in a 100 different topics, but some people get upset if one topic ever half year or so talks about God for more than one page. DO what I do when those stupid Journey topics had south into areas I don't like. Don't read. So stop reading here, let others talk about if they want. I'm sorry I have been away for awhile, because I believe in the bible 100%. I believe Jesus walked the earth and if you do not believe in him then, well if you think global warming is hot. But if I meat someone and they do not want to talk about it, I will not beat them over the head with my belief. I have friends who do not believe, and I am there for them if they have questions, which they do from time to time.-ERIC

[conversationpc]

That's interesting. Seems to me that nobody on this forum started a, "WARNING to parents! - The _Chronicles of Narnia_ are really an allegory for the Christian gospel. Just thoght parents should know in case they want to keep their kids away!" threads. If he wants to play the victim here, that's his choice...nobody is saying he shouldn't have his say.us But, when he does have his say, his comments are open for critique. Implying, even sarcasticly, that the 'other side' dominates this topic on this forum is ludicrous.

I didn't start the thread and I've barely even mentioned the movie in my posts, so it's not like I'm being an alarmist here. As far as playing the victim, what the heck are you talking about? I'm well able to defend myself. I've also never claimed that the 'other side' dominates this forum but, now that you mention it, this is something that I've heard you cry about on other forums. Hmmmm????

[Indyjoe]

Religion should not be taught in school, but Creation should. Both sides should be presented. Everyone should be shown both sides, so a person can make there own mind up. The USA was founded on the belief of God, now it is just the opposite.
You can have a moment of silence or special treatment for just about everything, but if your a Christian nowadays forget about it. YOUR IMPOSING YOUR RELIGION, but if Muslim, go ahead and do it-ERIC

I agree. The theory of evolution was taught at the Christian school I went to as a kid, btw.

~Wendy

[Arkansas]

With all this back and forths about evolution, there is one thing I would like for it to answer. This one thing it cannot scientifically answer. That is, why we were created? While it will try to prove the process through the scientific method, it cannot test why we were created.

In order to evolve to an intelligence level high enough to design power, computers and then the internet, to all get assigned usernames only to debate the true meaning of life on message boards around the globe.
Then we get hit by an asteroid and annihilated. The end.

Watched 'Super Comet' the other night on some high def channel. It was really really interesting.
Even if the Earth doesn't get completely annihilated, the Earth's time clock starts over, people become civilized. and the arguing begins anew. Gotta love it.


later~

[bionic]

I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

Exactly what has this got to do with music In regards to most people that have issues with anything anti-religous,they generally have a belief and no understanding of the history of the book they follow.
Lets keep it about the music on here!!!

DUH!!! Why do you think it has an OT in the title. Refer to my second quote below please...

Duuuh and what exactly has Christmas got to do with the bible????? Try solstice from pagan religions or the fact that a roman emperor called Constantine decided on what day he was go to have Jesus's birthday!!! and Saint Nick were exactly is he in the bible???
At least learn the history of the bible and christmas
Merry Christmas

[conversationpc]

Duuuh and what exactly has Christmas got to do with the bible????? Try solstice from pagan religions or the fact that a roman emperor called Constantine decided on what day he was go to have Jesus's birthday!!! and Saint Nick were exactly is he in the bible???
At least learn the history of the bible and christmas
Merry Christmas

Woh, what's with the u-turn there? I haven't even mentioned Christmas and I already know the history of the holiday, thanks.

[Blondie]

I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

Exactly what has this got to do with music In regards to most people that have issues with anything anti-religous,they generally have a belief and no understanding of the history of the book they follow.
Lets keep it about the music on here!!!

DUH!!! Why do you think it has an OT in the title. Refer to my second quote below please...

Duuuh and what exactly has Christmas got to do with the bible????? Try solstice from pagan religions or the fact that a roman emperor called Constantine decided on what day he was go to have Jesus's birthday!!! and Saint Nick were exactly is he in the bible???
At least learn the history of the bible and christmas
Merry Christmas

WTF?? Nice assumption. I do know the history of both the bible and Christmas, including the way many different cultures celebrate it. Most people know that many aspects of Christmas are based on pagan rituals - like the tree. But how you got that discussion out of a statement about a movie's timing... Wasn't your first gripe about this not being about music? If you don't like it, stay out.

[Monker]

I didn't start the thread and I've barely even mentioned the movie in my posts

And, my reply was not sent to you.

My point is that 'other side' is not even asking for 'air time'. It seems to me that one of the two sides understands that it is just a movie and it should be very low on their priorities.

I've also never claimed that the 'other side' dominates this forum but, now that you mention it, this is something that I've heard you cry about on other forums. Hmmmm????

Again, that post was not sent to you...You are also taking what I said out of context. In the post that I replied to, Raider fan is basicaly saying that some people here don't think you should get 'air time'...and now the same sentiment is displayed by ERIC. It is not a sentiment I am expressing....it is theirs.

That idea bullshit. You get your air time. But, when people challenge you, you get all whiny saying people are telling you to shut up....which isn't true. Go back a few posts that you have made and read the one where your caps lock got stuck.

[Monker]

I wanted to send this link to everyone for their information.
It concerns the movie "The Golden Compass" that is being
marketed to kids. It has anti-religious themes and opens just before Christmas...

http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

Exactly what has this got to do with music In regards to most people that have issues with anything anti-religous,they generally have a belief and no understanding of the history of the book they follow.
Lets keep it about the music on here!!!

DUH!!! Why do you think it has an OT in the title. Refer to my second quote below please...

Duuuh and what exactly has Christmas got to do with the bible????? Try solstice from pagan religions or the fact that a roman emperor called Constantine decided on what day he was go to have Jesus's birthday!!! and Saint Nick were exactly is he in the bible???
At least learn the history of the bible and christmas
Merry Christmas

WTF?? Nice assumption. I do know the history of both the bible and Christmas, including the way many different cultures celebrate it. Most people know that many aspects of Christmas are based on pagan rituals - like the tree. But how you got that discussion out of a statement about a movie's timing... Wasn't your first gripe about this not being about music? If you don't like it, stay out.

Oh, please. The entire Chrismas holiday is based on pagan rituals. When the Roman empire went Catholic, they simply swapped Gods for many of their festivals. That is where Christmas came from...the birthday of some sun god...don't remember the name. Even Easter came from a Wiccan festival...Google Eastre. The Christian church did this to many holidays to make it easier for people to convert. How ironic that both the birth of Christ and his reserection came so close to the longest and shortest day of the year. Both important Wiccan and pagan holidays.

All of the above is why some do not celebrate most holiday's...Mormans and Jehova Witnesses, for example.

[conversationpc]

That idea bullshit. You get your air time. But, when people challenge you, you get all whiny saying people are telling you to shut up....which isn't true. Go back a few posts that you have made and read the one where your caps lock got stuck.

Tell me how this is even coming close to saying that people are telling me to shut up...

Arrgggh!!! HOW THE HELL AM I TRYING TO FORCE IT ON ANYONE BY SIMPLY DISCUSSING IT, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD?! It really gets maddening that simply having a strong opinion and not being afraid to discuss it, debate it, question it, etc., is equated with "forcing" it on everyone else.

The complaint here was talking about how Christians get labeled as trying to force their beliefs on others when that simply isn't the case.

[conversationpc]

Oh, please. The entire Chrismas holiday is based on pagan rituals. When the Roman empire went Catholic, they simply swapped Gods for many of their festivals. That is where Christmas came from...the birthday of some sun god...don't remember the name. Even Easter came from a Wiccan festival...Google Eastre. The Christian church did this to many holidays to make it easier for people to convert. How ironic that both the birth of Christ and his reserection came so close to the longest and shortest day of the year. Both important Wiccan and pagan holidays.

All of the above is why some do not celebrate most holiday's...Mormans and Jehova Witnesses, for example.

1st Corinthians 10:30 - "If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?"

[Blondie]

Hmmm...there is this thing called faith...you don't even have to prove it to believe in it.

[Monker]

Oh, please. The entire Chrismas holiday is based on pagan rituals. When the Roman empire went Catholic, they simply swapped Gods for many of their festivals. That is where Christmas came from...the birthday of some sun god...don't remember the name. Even Easter came from a Wiccan festival...Google Eastre. The Christian church did this to many holidays to make it easier for people to convert. How ironic that both the birth of Christ and his reserection came so close to the longest and shortest day of the year. Both important Wiccan and pagan holidays.

All of the above is why some do not celebrate most holiday's...Mormans and Jehova Witnesses, for example.

1st Corinthians 10:30 - "If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?"

I am not denouncing anybody, or anything. It is a simple FACT that the Christmas holiday came almost COMPLETELY from pagan roots...as did Easter. If you thank the Roman gods for Christmas and witches for Easter, that's fine with me!

[Monker]

Hmmm...there is this thing called faith...you don't even have to prove it to believe in it.

EXACTLY. So, why all the fuss about proving Evolution wrong, or ask for it to be proven right? If you have 'faith' there is no need to do that.

[Arkansas]

I was on a KLM flight once, and the attendant and I struck up conversation about Christmas. She told me that growing up for her was a story about "a black man from Spain that came by boat and leaving your wooden shoes near the fireplace to dry. The next morning, your shoes would have gifts inside."
So I'm curious. Is there ever a big argument about what Cmas rituals are right & wrong?

I mean, who's real - our Santa Claus, or their Sinterklaas?


later~

[conversationpc]

Hmmm...there is this thing called faith...you don't even have to prove it to believe in it.

EXACTLY. So, why all the fuss about proving Evolution wrong, or ask for it to be proven right? If you have 'faith' there is no need to do that.

The two have nothing to do with each other. How about just discussing them because it's interesting to do so?

[Liam]

8 pages, Jen. Look what you did.

[Blondie]

Yeah. Who knew? You gotta love a good debate though. Keeps the mind sharp.

[conversationpc]

Just heard an interesting interview on Bill O'Reilly's radio show. Michael Smerconish was guest hosting and interviewed U.S. District Judge John Jones, the guy who ruled against intelligent design in the case in Pennsylvania in 2005.

What was interesting was that he said his ruling does not mean that creationism, intelligent design, etc., cannot be mentioned by teachers in school but that it cannot be taught as scientific fact. Teachers ARE allowed to say that there are these other theories out there.