AP - Faithfully

[Journey69]

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

I don't want a flame war to result from this, yet I don't regard this to be factual. That said, I'm willing to be convinced. Do you have any way to substantiate or prove this? I find it to be a very tall claim without much merit. I'll happily concede the point, but I have heard nothing from JSS that suggests that he has a "higher voice" than SA's or Deen's. Certainly a stronger voice. But higher? Perhaps you're confusing his falsetto screams to actually singing tenor.

SM,very well put.. and I think we are about to both feel Deano's wrath..

[Andrew]

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

This board just exudes class ! So let me get this straight.. JSS used to come on the boards..Yes I saw that.. Is JSS a great guy,once again,yes.. Ok,so some of you have seen him in concert or met him in person.. So your a JSS fan now..Sweet ! I suppose if I met Brittany Spears in person,I would all of the sudden be a huge fan and she should be the one fronting Journey.. Oh,ya and because Jeremy is the greatest Journey are a bunch of asshole's for not picking him..He writes on the board also.. STFU ! Pathetic..another pathetic statement... Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Once again,your man crush is almost as bad as John Madden's is with Brett Favre... So let me get this straight,JSS can singer higher notes than Deen.. LMFAO ! and STFU ! You sound like a little girl with a crush on Duran Duran,except yours is a man crush on JSS.. I believe he has his own board.. Oh and for the record,what kind of a classy person says this to someone..? another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights. I don't need to call someone vulgar names to make my point.. I have my opinion and you have yours,I did not attack yours!

Easy now...

[Saint John]

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

This board just exudes class ! So let me get this straight.. JSS used to come on the boards..Yes I saw that.. Is JSS a great guy,once again,yes.. Ok,so some of you have seen him in concert or met him in person.. So your a JSS fan now..Sweet ! I suppose if I met Brittany Spears in person,I would all of the sudden be a huge fan and she should be the one fronting Journey.. Oh,ya and because Jeremy is the greatest Journey are a bunch of asshole's for not picking him..He writes on the board also.. STFU ! Pathetic..another pathetic statement... Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Once again,your man crush is almost as bad as John Madden's is with Brett Favre... So let me get this straight,JSS can singer higher notes than Deen.. LMFAO ! and STFU ! You sound like a little girl with a crush on Duran Duran,except yours is a man crush on JSS.. I believe he has his own board.. Oh and for the record,what kind of a classy person says this to someone..? another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights. I don't need to call someone vulgar names to make my point.. I have my opinion and you have yours,I did not attack yours!

Ding ding!!! Round one. Touch gloves and come out swingin'.

[treetopovskaya]

http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/holdingonep/4U.mp3

[Aaron]

SJ,

I'm usually with you but I sure as fuck hope your kidding here. Or maybe you need to fall off the wagon to come to your senses? That was a minor league performance at best bro. There are several folks on this board that can BLOW that dude in the weeds. And without a fucking accent.

That performance was weak, overbearing, lifeless and pure shit. Someone that can really fucking sing does not need to do vocal gymnastics (from the 3:57 point on) to show they can sing. If they hire this guy I can't wait to see the melt down. Even casual plonker fans will realize this one. Fuck me!

L8r bro,

Aaron

I think it sounds amazing. Best rendition since Perry.

[Rick]

http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/holdingonep/4U.mp3

I had no idea.

[Aaron]

Come on Mac, fair is fair here ....

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

This board just exudes class ! So let me get this straight.. JSS used to come on the boards..Yes I saw that.. Is JSS a great guy,once again,yes.. Ok,so some of you have seen him in concert or met him in person.. So your a JSS fan now..Sweet ! I suppose if I met Brittany Spears in person,I would all of the sudden be a huge fan and she should be the one fronting Journey.. Oh,ya and because Jeremy is the greatest Journey are a bunch of asshole's for not picking him..He writes on the board also.. STFU ! Pathetic..another pathetic statement... Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Once again,your man crush is almost as bad as John Madden's is with Brett Favre... So let me get this straight,JSS can singer higher notes than Deen.. LMFAO ! and STFU ! You sound like a little girl with a crush on Duran Duran,except yours is a man crush on JSS.. I believe he has his own board.. Oh and for the record,what kind of a classy person says this to someone..? another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights. I don't need to call someone vulgar names to make my point.. I have my opinion and you have yours,I did not attack yours!

Easy now...

[Aaron]

yawn ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7zIE1N_Prg

Watching performances from this night I think AP had a cold. This one is better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IrGxqLRg2M

Someone should tell him it's "loving a music man ain't always what it's supposed to be" not "loving a music man ain't always what's supposed to be".

[Aaron]

JSS is an awesome singer, has excellent stage presence and is one of the best show men/front men I've seen. However, the dude has a point because he does not have that smooth, upper range tenor that made Journey famous. That's the bottom line ...

www.jeffscottsoto.com

lots of audio/video }:C)

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

I don't want a flame war to result from this, yet I don't regard this to be factual. That said, I'm willing to be convinced. Do you have any way to substantiate or prove this? I find it to be a very tall claim without much merit. I'll happily concede the point, but I have heard nothing from JSS that suggests that he has a "higher voice" than SA's or Deen's. Certainly a stronger voice. But higher? Perhaps you're confusing his falsetto screams to actually singing tenor.

[conversationpc]

www.jeffscottsoto.com

lots of audio/video }:C)

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

I don't want a flame war to result from this, yet I don't regard this to be factual. That said, I'm willing to be convinced. Do you have any way to substantiate or prove this? I find it to be a very tall claim without much merit. I'll happily concede the point, but I have heard nothing from JSS that suggests that he has a "higher voice" than SA's or Deen's. Certainly a stronger voice. But higher? Perhaps you're confusing his falsetto screams to actually singing tenor.

JSS is an awesome singer, has excellent stage presence and is one of the best show men/front men I've seen. However, the dude has a point because he does not have that smooth, upper range tenor that made Journey famous. That's the bottom line ...

Correct. Jeff's voice is NOT higher than Deen's or SA's. Does he have more vocal range? Yes, but his voice is not higher.

[Strange Medicine]

I assumed as much.

I'm fairly easy-going when it comes to conversations and debates, and I am more than willing to swallow my ego and concede the point if proven wrong, but I forsee a problem: I have issues with people who are so biased and obtuse that it clouds their vision to the point of making ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims. You can be a fan of a person and admire them and respect their talents without taking their skills out of proportion or aggrandizing them.

[Aaron]

Dude,

What you have to realize is people here are very passionate about their music, their position, and Journey. That leads to key board jockeys making over the top statements fueled by a beer or two on occasion (me included). That is what makes this place cool as folks are very passionate about their Journey material. Just take everything with a grain of salt and all is fine ...

L8r bro,

Aaron

I assumed as much.

I'm fairly easy-going when it comes to conversations and debates, and I am more than willing to swallow my ego and concede the point if proven wrong, but I forsee a problem: I have issues with people who are so biased and obtuse that it clouds their vision to the point of making ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims. You can be a fan of a person and admire them and respect their talents without taking their skills out of proportion or aggrandizing them.

[Strange Medicine]

Guess that's where I differ from most people. Oh well. I suppose you're right; I'll either learn to handle it or not.

[Journey69]

Finally a couple guys that see things clearly..! SP had a polished upper range.. JSS has a polished lower range.. Arnel has an unpolished upper range.. Hopefully Neal and Jon can help get it polished.. We'll see..

[Journey69]

I assumed as much.

I'm fairly easy-going when it comes to conversations and debates, and I am more than willing to swallow my ego and concede the point if proven wrong, but I forsee a problem: I have issues with people who are so biased and obtuse that it clouds their vision to the point of making ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims. You can be a fan of a person and admire them and respect their talents without taking their skills out of proportion or aggrandizing them.

Bravo! Couldn't have said it better...

[Rick]

Guess that's where I differ from most people. Oh well. I suppose you're right; I'll either learn to handle it or not.

Well as you told us, you're quite young. Don't take anything to heart when it comes to someone criticizing what you've said. Some of the opinions and criticisms here come with a harsh tone. It doesn't mean the person saying it doesn't like the other. Not most of the time anyway. The next day they'll be exchanging LOL's and talking about football. This place is great like that.

[Strange Medicine]

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

[LAKERSFAN]

http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/holdingonep/4U.mp3

That's falsetto not upper register.

[Journey69]

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

You,young grasshopper are correct..

[conversationpc]

http://lexilyn.be/mp3/jss/holdingonep/4U.mp3

That's falsetto not upper register.

Yep

[Journey69]

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

There is one such gentleman who is equally impressive.. You might have heard of him.. The late ,great Bradley Delp of Boston! He will be sorely missed !!

[Rip Rokken]

Correct. Jeff's voice is NOT higher than Deen's or SA's. Does he have more vocal range? Yes, but his voice is not higher.

What about all that Prince-style shrieking in his cover of "Darling Nikki"? I'm not quite sure how to categorize it, except to say it's well beyond my abilities...

[conversationpc]

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

There is one such gentleman who is equally impressive.. You might have heard of him.. The late ,great Bradley Delp of Boston! He will be sorely missed !!

Delp had slightly more on the up side of his vocal range but he wasn't nearly as consistent live as Perry was. Great vocalist, though, and one of my favorites of all time.

[Rick]

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

There is one such gentleman who is equally impressive.. You might have heard of him.. The late ,great Bradley Delp of Boston! He will be sorely missed !!

He was amazing. He had such an incredible tone to his voice.

[Aaron]

Delp was fucking awesome ...

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

There is one such gentleman who is equally impressive.. You might have heard of him.. The late ,great Bradley Delp of Boston! He will be sorely missed !!

Delp had slightly more on the up side of his vocal range but he wasn't nearly as consistent live as Perry was. Great vocalist, though, and one of my favorites of all time.

[Journey69]

I almost cried when I heard he was dead..! I remember listening to More than a feeling in my aunts car when she picked me up from school.. It was a cherry red 66 Impala 2 dr with a 396.. I remember that day like it was yesterday!

[conversationpc]

SP had a polished... well... every range. It has been debated that he might very well demonstrate more "control", vocally, than any other rock singer in history. His range -- while not peerless -- is most definately impressive.

There is one such gentleman who is equally impressive.. You might have heard of him.. The late ,great Bradley Delp of Boston! He will be sorely missed !!

He was amazing. He had such an incredible tone to his voice.

It was amazing how he could harmonize with his own vocals in the studio. I don't remember the exact quote but Tom Scholz commented how Brad could sing a melody and then sing the harmony vocals for the backgrounds, all without being out of tune in the slightest.

[Journey69]

He said he could lay down a track,and lay down another one without any practice or warm ups.. Tom was stunned! He said the guy could sing so effortlessly and the control was amazing..

[mistiejourney]

I had to quote Rick because I don't have the popcorn smiley......

[mistiejourney]

www.jeffscottsoto.com

lots of audio/video }:C)

For the love of god...Can we stop with the JSS rants already..There is a forum for JSS..Why don't you use that one.. He's a good singer,but he's not right for Journey.. He doesn't have the soaring tenor that they are looking for.. What if Arnel sang Something to Hide in concert..Wouldn't the doubters crap themselves?

LOL, another stupid ass comes waddling through the gates and into my sights.

Jeff has a higher voice than SA or Deen so you can put your JSS isn't right for Journey crap to bed. Better yet, roll it up and shove it up your asshole. JSS can sing anything. Rock, Metal, Soul, disco, anything. The guy isn't even human..he is a chameleon.

I think Arnel is awesome, but he isn't JSS.

I don't want a flame war to result from this, yet I don't regard this to be factual. That said, I'm willing to be convinced. Do you have any way to substantiate or prove this? I find it to be a very tall claim without much merit. I'll happily concede the point, but I have heard nothing from JSS that suggests that he has a "higher voice" than SA's or Deen's. Certainly a stronger voice. But higher? Perhaps you're confusing his falsetto screams to actually singing tenor.

JSS is an awesome singer, has excellent stage presence and is one of the best show men/front men I've seen. However, the dude has a point because he does not have that smooth, upper range tenor that made Journey famous. That's the bottom line ...

Correct. Jeff's voice is NOT higher than Deen's or SA's. Does he have more vocal range? Yes, but his voice is not higher.

I agree. That Perry-esque "tenor" is different than JSS. That doesn't mean he can't sing high, but having heard most of his material, his style and vocal register is lower. That is most certainly NOT a knock on Jeff; I thought he was great in Journey and enjoyed hearing the "Dirty Dozen" done differently for once!!!!!!