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Postby Saint John » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:18 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Saint John wrote:Admittedly, I've done a complete 180 on this issue. Augeri did very little wrong in my eyes.


ahhhh,, but remember ALL those augeri supporters you beat up... screamed and cursed at..was so rude too.. and about 5 other posters hereas well .. all the Augeri folks were run off ....now what would it take to go back to those posters and write a hand written apology , and thank them for just being them... :wink: this could be good..



Fuck them...well most of them anyway. My "debate" with them was concerning whether or not he was or wasn't singing which for a large part of a LOT of shows he wasn't. The only stance of mine that has changed is who is at fault. No apologies to anyone other than Mr. Augeri.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:24 am

Saint John wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Saint John wrote:Admittedly, I've done a complete 180 on this issue. Augeri did very little wrong in my eyes.


ahhhh,, but remember ALL those augeri supporters you beat up... screamed and cursed at..was so rude too.. and about 5 other posters hereas well .. all the Augeri folks were run off ....now what would it take to go back to those posters and write a hand written apology , and thank them for just being them... :wink: this could be good..



Fuck them...well most of them anyway. My "debate" with them was concerning whether or not he was or wasn't singing which for a large part of a LOT of shows he wasn't. The only stance of mine that has changed is who is at fault. No apologies to anyone other than Mr. Augeri.


8) im just being a smart ellic.. you were at a show that proper vocal abilities werent shown .. that was one of the first things i remember about you.. you wanted your money back or something.. 8) almost 2 years ago!!!!! :wink:
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Postby knox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:28 am

As I have said before, I doubt we will ever hear from him again. All we heard when he left Journey was "Tall Stories 2" and "Solo album out next Fall (now)".

There aren't even RUMORS of either of these, aside from what we have heard in this thread.

I still say his voice was fried and is now toast. The vocal cords are very fragile and once they have been damaged, from what I have read, they are never the same. Especially if they get Nodules on them.

From the way Steve had to CONSTANTLY strain to sing Perry songs, I wouldn't bet against Nodules.


***Do a Google search on Vocal Nodules. Talk about scary crap for Vocalist***
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:35 am

knox wrote:As I have said before, I doubt we will ever hear from him again. All we heard when he left Journey was "Tall Stories 2" and "Solo album out next Fall (now)".

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i hope hes writing a book!!!
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Postby knox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:36 am

I would LOVE a book!

But those guys in Journey know more about keeping people quiet than the Mafia.
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Postby Saint John » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:48 am

knox wrote:As I have said before, I doubt we will ever hear from him again. All we heard when he left Journey was "Tall Stories 2" and "Solo album out next Fall (now)".

There aren't even RUMORS of either of these, aside from what we have heard in this thread.

I still say his voice was fried and is now toast. The vocal cords are very fragile and once they have been damaged, from what I have read, they are never the same. Especially if they get Nodules on them.

From the way Steve had to CONSTANTLY strain to sing Perry songs, I wouldn't bet against Nodules.


***Do a Google search on Vocal Nodules. Talk about scary crap for Vocalist***



Oh yes there most certainly are. Mr. Augeri WILL be heard from again....soon...like within 8-10 weeks soon. :wink: :shock:
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Postby StoneCold » Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:57 am

Saint John wrote:
knox wrote:As I have said before, I doubt we will ever hear from him again. All we heard when he left Journey was "Tall Stories 2" and "Solo album out next Fall (now)".

There aren't even RUMORS of either of these, aside from what we have heard in this thread.

I still say his voice was fried and is now toast. The vocal cords are very fragile and once they have been damaged, from what I have read, they are never the same. Especially if they get Nodules on them.

From the way Steve had to CONSTANTLY strain to sing Perry songs, I wouldn't bet against Nodules.


***Do a Google search on Vocal Nodules. Talk about scary crap for Vocalist***



Oh yes there most certainly are. Mr. Augeri WILL be heard from again....soon...like within 8-10 weeks soon. :wink: :shock:


Watchu talkin' bout Willis?
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Postby knox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:12 am

I've been hearing that for a year now, and Nada, Zip, Zilch, Nothing.

It just keeps getting pushed back further and further. Augeri is as elusive as Perry.
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Postby MCC620 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:27 am

and the above post is the reason Augeri will possibly never answer Andrew. Nice try Carl, but some just don't get it. :roll:
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Postby chf34jmac » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:28 am

Totally fucking uncool beshad. The guy was put in a position where it was "do this" or be fired. He did it and got canned anyway The worst part being, the rest of the band left him holding the bag.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:31 am

chf34jmac wrote:Totally fucking uncool beshad. The guy was put in a position where it was "do this" or be fired. He did it and got canned anyway The worst part being, the rest of the band left him holding the bag.


CHILL OUT JEFF AND MARIA!
nothing wrong with a little humor,,, man is everyone having their "that time of the month"
Besides, if you wanna talk about this, do you think if JSS was in put in that situation, he would do it? FUCK NO! he would quit before he would decieve his fans ,,,, so youre tellin me its not Augeris fault just cause he chose money over his fans?
A year ago, most of you were totally anti-Augeri,,, and now that you seen the true side of Frigg&Fro, you think Augeri is a saint?
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Postby chf34jmac » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:33 am

Nope can't chill out anymore. Not by you but since I get blasted everytime I post something like that, I thought I'd pay it forward. :lol:

Happy holidays to your family there B
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Postby Behshad » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:36 am

chf34jmac wrote:Nope can't chill out anymore. Not by you but since I get blasted everytime I post something like that, I thought I'd pay it forward. :lol:

Happy holidays to your family there B


Happy Holidays to you too man,,,,,:)

I think I deserve a time out or somethin for bein mean about UncleAuggie :P
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Postby Amanda » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:36 am

Behshad wrote:
chf34jmac wrote:Totally fucking uncool beshad. The guy was put in a position where it was "do this" or be fired. He did it and got canned anyway The worst part being, the rest of the band left him holding the bag.


CHILL OUT JEFF AND MARIA!
nothing wrong with a little humor,,, man is everyone having their "that time of the month"
Besides, if you wanna talk about this, do you think if JSS was in put in that situation, he would do it? FUCK NO! he would quit before he would decieve his fans ,,,, so youre tellin me its not his fault just cause he chose money over his fans?


JSS also had another band as well as only a few months in Journey - his decision might have been a little different if he were in a band for nine years and it was his livelihood
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Postby MCC620 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:37 am

Behshad wrote:
chf34jmac wrote:Totally fucking uncool beshad. The guy was put in a position where it was "do this" or be fired. He did it and got canned anyway The worst part being, the rest of the band left him holding the bag.


CHILL OUT JEFF AND MARIA!
nothing wrong with a little humor,,, man is everyone having their "that time of the month"
Besides, if you wanna talk about this, do you think if JSS was in put in that situation, he would do it? FUCK NO! he would quit before he would decieve his fans ,,,, so youre tellin me its not his fault just cause he chose money over his fans?


you are just in constant bash mode. How about you "chill out" and let Augeri's fans make a post about wanting to hear from him without dredging all the shit up yet again. it's old and tired Behshad.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:41 am

MCC620 wrote:
Behshad wrote:
chf34jmac wrote:Totally fucking uncool beshad. The guy was put in a position where it was "do this" or be fired. He did it and got canned anyway The worst part being, the rest of the band left him holding the bag.


CHILL OUT JEFF AND MARIA!
nothing wrong with a little humor,,, man is everyone having their "that time of the month"
Besides, if you wanna talk about this, do you think if JSS was in put in that situation, he would do it? FUCK NO! he would quit before he would decieve his fans ,,,, so youre tellin me its not his fault just cause he chose money over his fans?


you are just in constant bash mode. How about you "chill out" and let Augeri's fans make a post about wanting to hear from him without dredging all the shit up yet again. it's old and tired Behshad.


Bash mode?
I didnt even know I had that ability,,,,, might have to step out and try it on some customers :)
Why would I need to chill out, if I am just jokin around? How is that bashing!? Or you talkin about bashing Augeri!? Its not really bashing,, at this point, the only thing one can do is laugh about what he did and move on,, youre right it is old news,, but I will always try to find something positive in things, even if it is a photoshopped pic :) Happy Holidays to Maria and all Augeriheads all over the world :)
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Postby knox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:22 am

Augeri could have said "NO!" to the lip syncing. He didn't.

They are all to blame, but Augeri, being the one who held the mic, had the option to say no.

THAT doesn't speak well about his character to me. He is just as classless as the rest of them as far as this is concerned. No sense in defending him. He CHOSE to deceive the fans who held him in such high regard.
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Postby chf34jmac » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:26 am

Not even worth dredging this back up with you knox. It's been beaten to death. I say let's just wait and see what he comes out with in the next few months. I'll decide then whether or not he could have continued on if he was given a chance to rest and recover his voice.
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Postby knox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:30 am

Believe me, I don't want to get the whole thing started again.

However, to sit here and say he was such a Stand Up Guy through all of it is nonsense. That's all.
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Postby chf34jmac » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:32 am

All I'm gonna say is this - Steve has a family to feed and did what he was ordered to do.
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Postby knox » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:36 am

chf34jmac wrote:All I'm gonna say is this - Steve has a family to feed and did what he was ordered to do.


I am not a financial genius, but I would bet my Miata he had enough money at the time to "feed his family".

The point is, he had a decision to make. Live up to his "Man of substance and character" reputation and be fired for making the honest choice, or "Follow orders" from other classless people and, by doing so, become just like them.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:43 am

Lets just get back to the subject fella's . No need to worry about the past. Focus on the future.
Now I know Andrew said he hasnt heard from Steve in 18 months, but has Andrew made any attempts to contact Steve? I'd be interested to hear Steve's voicemail-welcome message :roll: :wink:
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Postby texafana » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:14 am

chf34jmac wrote:All I'm gonna say is this - Steve has a family to feed and did what he was ordered to do.


I'd say more than likely he had a contract that decided for him. ;)
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Postby chf34jmac » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:09 am

I've said this before too. When you work at a job making "X" dollars, you acquire bills that require "X" dollars to pay. I am quite certain that his employer prior to Journey wasn't paying him anywhere near what he was making with Journey. I am also quite certain any employer he has had since Journey isn't paying him close to Journey money either. So that being said, it very well could have been one of the deciding factors in going along with the whole lipping plan.
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Postby Natalie » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:22 am

Behshad wrote:man is everyone having their "that time of the month"

Apparently so, here, maybe I can help.
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Postby brywool » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:24 pm

Behshad wrote:The only thing I could find regarding a sequel to Tall Stories is this

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BULLSHIT.

Jeez man, it's not like he NEVER sang. THAT was milli vanilli. He sang as long as he could and then Neal and the boys made him 'sing' when he physically couldn't. What the fuck was he supposed to do???? If he would've walked, the fans would've crucified him (just like they have now). In fact, he ended up doing what he was supposed to do when it no longer was possible for him to sing or fake it.
Ever had to do a gig when you've got no voice? It's the shits man. I don't wish the situation Augeri had on anyone....
have some friggin' empathy man... There's so much of the story that people don't know and I hope comes out. Leave him alone. He's fuckin' given up everything for this band that royally fucked him over, now he's gotta put up with this kind of bullshit too? Ugh, people are fucked up.

Neal and Jon, if you're reading, you're the biggest pieces of shit the music business has ever seen. I hope you spend the rest of your lives playing Holiday Inns.

(*** holy crap! who was drinkin' when this was posted????***)
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:08 pm

Most men will do anything for their family, I would. Augeri had to provide for them, I would have done the same. Did I like that it happened, no. But I understand it, always have. Augeri has always been in a no win. Fans disliked to hated him because he wasn't Perry. Neal hated him because he was a "powerhouse" vocalist. But every night he got up there and did the job, he keep the music alive until his voice died. Then he swallowed his pride and had to get up and fake parts of the show in front of thousands of people a night. I imagine it was a do this or you out situation for him. If he stepped down some fans would have eat this up. The Best outcome in the middle of all this (hide sight can prove different, would he have done it different now?) was to keep his job and do as asked, while keeping his family provided for.
You ever done anything you are ashamed of? Wish you didn't do it? Hope know one finds out about it? Did you do it for yourself, your family, your friends, to save face? Journey was to have a year off in 06, never happened. If Soul Sirkus had taken off, Neal would have spent a year with them and Augeri would gotten the rest he needs. But then I never would seen JSS with Journey and gotten into his music. Too Many what if out there. What happened, happened. Can't go back and redo things, so we need to move on. Hopefully Augeri has, and he will put the last year behind him and release a new cd soon. I for one look forward to it-ERIC
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Postby Behshad » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:49 pm

Abitaman wrote:Most men will do anything for their family, I would. Augeri had to provide for them, I would have done the same. Did I like that it happened, no. But I understand it, always have. Augeri has always been in a no win. Fans disliked to hated him because he wasn't Perry. Neal hated him because he was a "powerhouse" vocalist. But every night he got up there and did the job, he keep the music alive until his voice died. Then he swallowed his pride and had to get up and fake parts of the show in front of thousands of people a night. I imagine it was a do this or you out situation for him. If he stepped down some fans would have eat this up. The Best outcome in the middle of all this (hide sight can prove different, would he have done it different now?) was to keep his job and do as asked, while keeping his family provided for.
You ever done anything you are ashamed of? Wish you didn't do it? Hope know one finds out about it? Did you do it for yourself, your family, your friends, to save face? Journey was to have a year off in 06, never happened. If Soul Sirkus had taken off, Neal would have spent a year with them and Augeri would gotten the rest he needs. But then I never would seen JSS with Journey and gotten into his music. Too Many what if out there. What happened, happened. Can't go back and redo things, so we need to move on. Hopefully Augeri has, and he will put the last year behind him and release a new cd soon. I for one look forward to it-ERIC


I bet you $50 that you wont see a new cd from him anytime soon,,,
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:03 am

Augie's prolly just kicking it up in Brooklyn, giving his pipes a LONG rest.


Dude seemed to be a big family man so god bless him, in if Generations was his CODA, I'm thankful he saved his best studio performance for last.
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Postby stevew2 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:37 am

[quote="Abitaman"]Most men will do anything for their family, I would. Augeri had to provide for them, I would have done the same. Did I like that it happened, no. But I understand it, always have. Augeri has always been in a no win. Fans disliked to hated him because he wasn't Perry. Neal hated him because he was a "powerhouse" vocalist. But every night he got up there and did the job, he keep the music alive until his voice died. Then he swallowed his pride and had to get up and fake parts of the show in front of thousands of people a night. I imagine it was a do this or you out situation for him. If he stepped down some fans would have eat this up. The Best outcome in the middle of all this (hide sight can prove different, would he have done it different now?) was to keep his job and do as asked, while keeping his family provided for.
You ever done anything you are ashamed of? Wish you didn't do it? Hope know one finds out about it? Did you do it for yourself, your family, your friends, to save face? Journey was to have a year off in 06, never happened. If Soul Sirkus had taken off, Neal would have spent a year with them and Augeri would gotten the rest he needs. But then I never would seen JSS with Journey and gotten into his music. Too Many what if out there. What happened, happened. Can't go back and redo things, so we need to move on. Hopefully Augeri has, and he will put the last year behind him and release a new cd soon. I for one look forward to it-ERIC[/quote]




Excellant post, I totally agree
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