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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:03 am

The Boston Globe reports that since BOSTON singer Brad Delp committed suicide last March, relations among members of the multiplatinum act have become poisonous, as evidenced by a lawsuit filed by the band's mastermind, Tom Scholz, against Delp's ex-wife Micki and Connie Goudreau, wife of BOSTON guitarist Barry Goudreau. In the suit, filed in Middlesex Superior Court, Scholz alleges that Micki Delp and Connie Goudreau defamed him by suggesting that Scholz was the reason Delp killed himself. The lawsuit cites a story in the Boston Herald, published just days after Delp's suicide, which carried the headline: "Pal's Snub Made Delp Do It: Boston Rocker's Ex-Wife Speaks." Scholz also claims that Micki Delp and Connie Goudreau, using aliases, repeatedly made statements in online chat rooms and BOSTON fan sites impugning Scholz's character and creating an "aura of suspicion" about his charity, the DTS Charitable Foundation. In one instance, the suit claims, the women concocted a bogus website — DTSFoundation.com — in an attempt to divert traffic away from Scholz's actual site, dtscf.org.
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Postby xflajrnylvr » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:15 am

This in no way suprises me . I heard that after the last show they did last year that was the end of Boston so I am not suprised by this at all
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Postby mikemarrs » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:22 am

really sad because they were one of the best groups in rock history.they were innovators in a lot of areas.they were the first of the hard rock arena bands that set the tone for later groups like journey,foreigner,styx,etc.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:30 am

I never was a huge Boston fan, but Delp's loss was felt everywhere in the rock and roll community. He was apparently a very decent, humble and unassuming guy who by the end was also playing clubs in a cover or tribute band of some kind, for which he apparently didn't even throw around his association with Boston. I would have loved to see the show they did with Michael Sweet on vocals, and there is an audio clip around somewhere of Sweet singing "More Than A Feeling" with them.
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Postby conversationpc » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:31 am

I'd be willing to bet that the reasons for Delp's suicide run a lot deeper than just something that happened with the band. The blame rests with Delp. Not with Scholz or anyone else. I say that as a huge Boston fan and one who was really saddened at his loss.
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Postby Rick » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:35 am

Scholz loves to sue.

I sent Fran Cosmo an email asking if there was a chance that Boston could continue on with him as the frontman, and his reply wasn't positive.

Tom is a hard dude to work with evidently.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:56 am

It's over.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:02 am

conversationpc wrote:I'd be willing to bet that the reasons for Delp's suicide run a lot deeper than just something that happened with the band.


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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:24 am

Delp's note made it clear his decision had nothing to do with his personal or professional life. Unfortunately, he had been manically depressed for most of his life. He was a great man, and the world is a colder place without him.
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Postby Tomulator » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:26 am

7 Wishes wrote:Delp's note made it clear his decision had nothing to do with his personal or professional life. Unfortunately, he had been manically depressed for most of his life. He was a great man, and the world is a colder place without him.


Totally agree. Scholz may be an ass but, he was not responsible for Brad's death.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:34 am

I did a little of my usual looking into wiki for information and from what I read, it seems that Brad got a little too involved in the world's problems. Sort of like an activist in a way. Was a vegetarian for thirty years, a very active AIDS and homelessness awarness person. There are lots of bad things and getting too engrossed over them is not a good thing. It seems that the suicide note hinted how sad or missurable he was with life. Said he was a lonely soul. Maybe all the problems of the world he engrossed himself over could have ultimately pushed him past depression. Could have also been the woman he was with. From what I know, they were together for many years but never got married, but that marrage was about to take place. Speeking from my experiences, I was with the most beautiful woman to me but she was so bad to me that of the years we were together, I was with her but I was more lonely with her then I was without her. That could have also been something that pushed him to do what he did. Never know, but to me anyways, it doesn't matter what it was. I just wish that he could have found different resolve then the one he eventually committed to.
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Postby Enigma869 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:55 am

I've had business dealings with with one of the members of Boston, and according to him, the relationships in that band have always been strained. In fact, he told me that Delp was always the one in the band looking to keep the peace and VERY frustrated that he couldn't. For the record, these conversations took place a couple of years back, before the unfortunate passing of Delp.


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Postby Big J » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:36 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:I did a little of my usual looking into wiki for information and from what I read, it seems that Brad got a little too involved in the world's problems. Sort of like an activist in a way. Was a vegetarian for thirty years, a very active AIDS and homelessness awarness person. There are lots of bad things and getting too engrossed over them is not a good thing. It seems that the suicide note hinted how sad or missurable he was with life. Said he was a lonely soul. Maybe all the problems of the world he engrossed himself over could have ultimately pushed him past depression. Could have also been the woman he was with. From what I know, they were together for many years but never got married, but that marrage was about to take place. Speeking from my experiences, I was with the most beautiful woman to me but she was so bad to me that of the years we were together, I was with her but I was more lonely with her then I was without her. That could have also been something that pushed him to do what he did. Never know, but to me anyways, it doesn't matter what it was. I just wish that he could have found different resolve then the one he eventually committed to.


Brad apparently was indeed very very distraught. I've never quite heard about anything like how he killed himself either. Apparently he tried with the car in the garage, and couldn't get it to work. After fiddling with that and hooking up hoses and stuff, he still couldn't, so then he locked himself in the bathroom with a couple charcoal grills.

Who does that?! I can't even imagine being THAT determined to end my life.

Heard a rumor that he scribbled the lyrics to "A Man I'll Never Be" on the back of the suicide note he left for his fiancee too. If true, there's part of the answer. Makes that song pretty chilling now, too.
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Postby Voyager » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:32 am

Tom Scholz probably has a personality disorder that makes it difficult for people to deal with him, most likely Asperger's Syndrome. He is a genius, but his people skills are on the low end of the scale. Tom has always had the goods when it comes to music, but his relationships with people have always been horrible. This is a common trait of Asperger's.

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Postby Saint John » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:37 am

Rather than committing suicide, Delp should've beat the holy hell out of Scholz. Killing himself only made Scholz richer as he is the main royalties collector in the band. Talk about irony.
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Postby Voyager » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:38 am

Big J wrote:Heard a rumor that he scribbled the lyrics to "A Man I'll Never Be" on the back of the suicide note he left for his fiancee too. If true, there's part of the answer. Makes that song pretty chilling now, too.


I always loved that song.

Boston › A Man I’ll Never Be

If I said whats on my mind
You'd turn and walk away
Disappearing way back in your dreams
It's so hard to be unkind
So easy just to say
That everything is just the way it seems

You look up at me
And somewhere in your mind you see
A man I'll never be

If only I could find a way
I'd feel like I'm the man you believe I am
And it gets harder every day for me
To hide behind this dream you see
A man I'll never be

I cant get any stronger
I cant climb any higher
Youll never know just how hard I've tried
Cry a little longer
And hold a little tighter
Emotions cant be satisfied

You look up at me
And somewhere in your mind you see
A man I'll never be

If only I could find a way
I'd feel like I'm the man you believe I am
And it gets harder every day for me
To hide behind this dream you see
A man I'll never be


RIP Brad. You fucking rocked bro.

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Postby Fernando Ramirez » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:42 am

I've been a BOSTON fan since 1984. They are among my favorite bands of all time.

I don't blame Tom Scholz for what happened to Brad, and nobody else should, either.

Brad Delp will always be one of my favorite singers of all time. But he was the one that decided to end his life, and NOONE else did. He, alone, has to take responsibility for what he has done.

For Micki and Connie to blame Tom Scholz is crazy. And on that note, if they were so concerned about Brad and what "Boston" was doing to him... then where were Micki and Connie when he was distraught and contemplating suicide? Apparently, nowhere in sight.

If anything... and lots of folks that have been through divorce can tell you... I'm sure Brad's divorce was worse on him than being in BOSTON could ever have been.
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Postby Voyager » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:42 am

Story continued:

In her response to the lawsuit, filed with the court, Goudreau admits to creating the phony site, but denies many of Scholz's other allegations. (Her attorney Daniel Tarlow didn't return a phone call yesterday.) Pending a final ruling, Judge Isaac Borenstein has issued a temporary restraining order, preventing Goudreau from destroying, erasing, or altering evidence on her computer. Micki Delp, who lives in California, never responded to the suit, and as a result was automatically found liable, according to Scholz's attorney Sue Stenger. Delp could not be reached yesterday. Stenger said a monetary judgment against Micki Delp will be decided in the coming months. While Scholz is seeking damages for the alleged harm done to his reputation and emotional distress, the lawsuit does not specify a dollar amount.


Link: http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/arti ... performer/

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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:28 am

Strife and divisiveness in a successful rock band? That's a novelty.

Clearly Brad had issues that ran deeper than the goings on of Boston. I miss him, but you can't blame Scholz.
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Postby Aaron » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:34 pm

That's my fav as well. Don't Look Back friggin rocked. Delp, you were the king.


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Big J wrote:Heard a rumor that he scribbled the lyrics to "A Man I'll Never Be" on the back of the suicide note he left for his fiancee too. If true, there's part of the answer. Makes that song pretty chilling now, too.


I always loved that song.

Boston › A Man I’ll Never Be

If I said whats on my mind
You'd turn and walk away
Disappearing way back in your dreams
It's so hard to be unkind
So easy just to say
That everything is just the way it seems

You look up at me
And somewhere in your mind you see
A man I'll never be

If only I could find a way
I'd feel like I'm the man you believe I am
And it gets harder every day for me
To hide behind this dream you see
A man I'll never be

I cant get any stronger
I cant climb any higher
Youll never know just how hard I've tried
Cry a little longer
And hold a little tighter
Emotions cant be satisfied

You look up at me
And somewhere in your mind you see
A man I'll never be

If only I could find a way
I'd feel like I'm the man you believe I am
And it gets harder every day for me
To hide behind this dream you see
A man I'll never be


RIP Brad. You fucking rocked bro.

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Postby Aaron » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:42 pm

Eh man brother. Chick divorces you, takes your shit, and then wants to claim she's protecting your legacy. FUCK THAT! I'm sure Brad is doing 10,000 RPM in the grave now. :cry:

Rest in peace Brad Delp, you rocked bro ...

Fernando Ramirez wrote:I've been a BOSTON fan since 1984. They are among my favorite bands of all time.

I don't blame Tom Scholz for what happened to Brad, and nobody else should, either.

Brad Delp will always be one of my favorite singers of all time. But he was the one that decided to end his life, and NOONE else did. He, alone, has to take responsibility for what he has done.

For Micki and Connie to blame Tom Scholz is crazy. And on that note, if they were so concerned about Brad and what "Boston" was doing to him... then where were Micki and Connie when he was distraught and contemplating suicide? Apparently, nowhere in sight.

If anything... and lots of folks that have been through divorce can tell you... I'm sure Brad's divorce was worse on him than being in BOSTON could ever have been.
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Postby yulog » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:14 pm

Voyager wrote:Tom Scholz probably has a personality disorder that makes it difficult for people to deal with him, most likely Asperger's Syndrome. He is a genius, but his people skills are on the low end of the scale. Tom has always had the goods when it comes to music, but his relationships with people have always been horrible. This is a common trait of Asperger's.

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Aspergers isn't a personality disorder, its a developmental disorder. If scholz had this, i doubt he would ever be able to get up on stage. They are often plagued by ocd traits and rarely are more than average intellegence.This syndrome is often mistaken for being autistic.I think this behavior seems to happen in all rock bands, or at least most,it sounds similar to what has everyone pissed at Schon , Cain and Perry(just typical arguing amongst each other ,but these guys have money so they can have these costly lawsuits whenever they feel like it)
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Postby FishinMagician » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:18 pm

haha, "middlesex"... figure that one out
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Postby Deb » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:27 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:I never was a huge Boston fan, but Delp's loss was felt everywhere in the rock and roll community. He was apparently a very decent, humble and unassuming guy who by the end was also playing clubs in a cover or tribute band of some kind, for which he apparently didn't even throw around his association with Boston. I would have loved to see the show they did with Michael Sweet on vocals, and there is an audio clip around somewhere of Sweet singing "More Than A Feeling" with them.


There is some clips up on youtube of that Boston tribute with Michael Sweet. Michael did a great job, always liked his voice. Little clip of Peace of Mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoVt_M3t-A

Jeff does a great job too. Accoustic (Forever Young) :)

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Postby wildone » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:39 pm

all those years of hard work and this is how it ends?.....why people can't leave shit alone I can never understand :wink: ....But really is that how they want the memory of Boston to be or for Brad?They need to take a hard look at themselves and be thankful for all they've been blessed with! but sadly they won't there's to many $$signs floating around!
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Postby sniper16 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:57 pm

sholz is recording new stuff, and i heard boston has a date in nashville this summer, no word on the singer, would love to see michael sweet(stryper)
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:35 am

yulog wrote:Tom Scholz probably has a personality disorder that makes it difficult for people to deal with him, most likely Asperger's Syndrome. He is a genius, but his people skills are on the low end of the scale.


Other names that leap instantly to my mind are Steve & Decists, Frankie Sullivan and Edward Van Halen.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:40 am

Aaron wrote:I'm sure Brad is doing 10,000 RPM in the grave now.


Not to disrespect the topic, but that reminded me of an old joke about a guard in the cemetery where Beethoven is buried. He kept hearing music coming from the grave, but it sounded like the 5th Symphony being played backwards. They investigated, and it turned out it was Beethoven decomposing...
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:41 am

sniper16 wrote:i heard boston has a date in nashville this summer, no word on the singer, would love to see michael sweet(stryper)


That would be, well.... Sweet!!! :P
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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:53 am

Freddie Curci would be a much better choice than Sweet.
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