Escape vocals in 1983

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Postby slucero » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:10 am

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7 Wishes wrote:Wrong. Journey does not need a re-recorded hits package. It is a pure crap move, entirely motivated by greed. Period.


C'mon 7, thats too easy an answer.... money is ALWAYS part of the equation... Especially at this level.....The re-mastering of Journey songs ( and the Houston video) by Perry was motivated by greed. Perry wasn't sitting at home pettin' his cat when he suddenly thought that would be a "nice thing he could do for the fans"...

it was sony's plan to remaster the cds. steve put in the extra effort because he thought that would be a "nice thing he could do for the fans"...


I didn't mean to imply it was Perry's greed, sorry if it came off that way..... my point was that it was "for the money".....

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Postby ProgRocker53 » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:22 am

I highly doubt anything Perry has done since 1986 has been about the money.

If it was, he'd still be touring and recording, and he would've sucked it up and went on the Trial By Fire tour.

The remastering, the CDs and DVDs he's helped work on, the drive-by singing... it all sounds like stuff Perry wants to do, no more no less, because CD remasters and backing up Guff aren't exactly lucrative money machines.

He could just sit in his armchair, watching baseball and petting cats for the rest of his days, and STILL pull in mad bank.

And I respect him for that. There aren't many other artists out there who have managed to perserve their own legacy more than Perry.

Perry's a smart guy. He knows he has millions of Journey fans in the palms of his hands, and the instant he decides to sing on record again, BAM.... here come the checks. But, he doesn't need/want the money, and doesn't want to ruin that mystique about him.

I don't blame him, either. Imagine all the snarky net fans critiquing every single note he commits to record... ugh, as a perfectionist, I'm sure that'd be Hell for him.
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Re: Escape vocals in 1983

Postby Classic Rock » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:26 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I'm a part of "THIS" generation, and I was SO STARVED for good music several years ago, that I discovered Journey.


I know exactly what you mean. I was getting sick of the current/Top 40 music about 5 years ago and I started digging into my parents CD catalog.

ProgRocker53 wrote:I was so starved for good music, a year later, I discovered MelodicRock.com. From there I purchased albums by JSS, Talisman, Hardline, Tyketto, Tall Stories, Bad English, Toto, Winger, Seventh Key, Harem Scarem, and many more. Keep in mind at this point, I'm a senior in high school, and everyone else around me is listening to My Chemical Romance and Fall Out Boy.


STYX was actually the first classic rock band I got into and I just fell in love with the music. I started listening to the local classic rock station and digging into all the bands back catalogs.

I like a few current bands as displayed in my signature but I hate bands like My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, and all those other poser bands that won't be relevant in a few years. The bands in my current list have longevity and they have been in the business for years and that is why I still follow them.

ProgRocker53 wrote:I'm so starved for good music, I'm following up on these initial discoveries to this day, delving through these great bands' back catalogues.


It really is fun doing that, huh? For all the bands in my classic rock list I have gone through every record they’ve ever released and picked my favorites from each. I have about 250 GB of classic rock music and I still have a long way to go.

ProgRocker53 wrote:Point is, if kids these days are actually wanting good music, they'll go out and find it like I did. Not all kids will go the same route I did, they may look into various indie and prog and metal styles, but it's still better than the shit being force-fed in the mass media.


The majority of the kids our age are just going to continue listening to the current songs on alternative rock or Top 40 pop radio stations thinking that those bands are good. Classic rock music seems to be gaining more popularity with our generation but it still has a long way to go. I hate when someone is wearing a Beatles or Led Zeppelin T-shirt and I start talking to them about the band and they know little to nothing about them. I want them to really be into the music not just wearing the stuff because it is “cool” at the moment.

ProgRocker53 wrote:We DON'T need a re-recorded hit package to coerce the younger generation into buying Journey. I know enough people that aren't even into Melodic/Classic rock, that own the Journey Greatest Hits or at least buy some of the hits off iTunes. The original GH still holds strong today, there's a reason it's moved 14 million units.


Exactly. I guess I really didn’t have a problem with REO rerecording Hi-Infidelity because it had the original lead singer but this rerecording the Journey hits without Steve Perry is a bad idea. They should just do a new CD/new DVD package and leave the rerecorded greatest hits out of it.

ProgRocker53 wrote:Oh yeah, at every Journey concert I've been to, I've brought three friends within two years of age of me, and we ran into a bunch of people our age and partied hardy with them. There ARE a lot of young Journey fans out there, and they DON'T need re-recorded GH.


There are more and more kids our age going to classic rock shows. I see them because I am at almost every one that comes to Houston. While most of them only know the greatest hits, it is at least a start.
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Postby slucero » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:28 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I highly doubt anything Perry has done since 1986 has been about the money.



...hence my clarification.....

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Postby brywool » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:51 am

7 Wishes wrote:Wrong. Journey does not need a re-recorded hits package. It is a pure crap move, entirely motivated by greed. Period.


Exactly. UNLESS IT'S LIVE Ala "Hell Freezes Over", it will have ZERO impact and will be perceived as a desperation move. WHY would Journey fans not just buy the greatest hits albums instead of remakes?? Journey should do what the Eagles did. A show of their old hits, broadcast all over the place, DVD, and call it "Hell Needed a Hip Replacement, so We Got This Guy".

Seriously, this is a stupid move and a waste of time for Journey. Do a new album or call it a day.
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Re: Escape vocals in 1983

Postby scarygirl » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:31 am

Gunbot wrote:This sounds like he is still singing in the escape vocal register in 83. I guess he did alter his voice for Frontiers to shave down the high notes.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Axk-KFNcjwk


God love my friend Mariet. That woman has more Steve Perry recordings and pictures than Steve Perry! My take is, his voice has good and bad days. During FLOSM tour, there were certain boots depending on the song where you would swear no time had passed.
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