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OT: The Birth Of The Music Video

Postby nikki » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:14 pm

Just curious as to what some of you might consider to be the beginning of the concept. IMO, it all started with this. Say what you will about Michael Jackson, but he was really ahead of his time and a true creative genius. Discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9malySv1bE
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Postby Since 78 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:32 pm

This is one one I thought of first, the Cars-you might think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8oZZJojROo
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Postby Triple S » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:39 pm

and this was actually the first one that aired on MTV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWtHEmVjVw8

- but MJ definitely had some of the best (I loved the 'Thriller' video!)
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Postby Since 78 » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:48 pm

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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:16 pm

Here's MTV's early days...

"I want My MTV"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACGUasFWVsI
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Postby piecesofeight » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:18 pm

I went nuts in my parents living room the first time I saw this..still my fav video to this day and was my intro to this band..we had MTV the day it came out.. 8)


http://youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5bS3_BCDs


The opening had me hooked on them from day one..
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:44 pm

LOVED Def Leppard! Here's a couple more that stick out in my mind...

"Centerfold"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wx6t11D99tA

"Beat It"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUi2UCPe7Yo

I can't believe I'm admitting this, but I actually had a "Beat it" jacket with the zippers. I was a HUGE Michael fan back then! What a dumbass I was! :oops: At least Eddie Van Halen made the song a little more "Manly". :lol: I think it's funny as hell that Eddie refused to be in the video because he thought it was going to flop! :lol: :shock: :lol: I'm not sure who's further out in left field now...Michael or Eddie? :lol:


Awwwwwwww...the good old days! :wink:
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Postby piecesofeight » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:48 pm

G.I.Jim wrote: I'm not sure who's further out in left field now...Michael or Eddie? :lol:

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Re: OT: The Birth Of The Music Video

Postby nolippin » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:51 am

I remember watching one of MTV's birthday shows when they were crediting the Monkees with making the concept popular. I believe, though, that the concept goes back to the Beatles' Hard Days Night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkees

As a television show, The Monkees used techniques rarely seen on episodic television. This included characters breaking the fourth wall and talking to the camera (and sometimes even to off-camera studio production staff), fantasy sequences, and abrupt inserts and jump cuts. At least once a week, there was a musical romp which might have nothing to do with the storyline. In retrospect, many episodes included vignettes which now look very much like music videos: short, self-contained films of songs in ways that echoed Beatles' film sequences.





nikki wrote:Just curious as to what some of you might consider to be the beginning of the concept. IMO, it all started with this. Say what you will about Michael Jackson, but he was really ahead of his time and a true creative genius. Discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9malySv1bE
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Postby AlteredDNA » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:53 am

I remember loving seeing Unchained live

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LfYjgcOaIUU

Also, LOVED the Saturday night live concerts...
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Re: OT: The Birth Of The Music Video

Postby nikki » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:06 am

nolippin wrote:I remember watching one of MTV's birthday shows when they were crediting the Monkees with making the concept popular. I believe, though, that the concept goes back to the Beatles' Hard Days Night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkees

As a television show, The Monkees used techniques rarely seen on episodic television. This included characters breaking the fourth wall and talking to the camera (and sometimes even to off-camera studio production staff), fantasy sequences, and abrupt inserts and jump cuts. At least once a week, there was a musical romp which might have nothing to do with the storyline. In retrospect, many episodes included vignettes which now look very much like music videos: short, self-contained films of songs in ways that echoed Beatles' film sequences.





nikki wrote:Just curious as to what some of you might consider to be the beginning of the concept. IMO, it all started with this. Say what you will about Michael Jackson, but he was really ahead of his time and a true creative genius. Discuss.

I remember watching those, too (good God, what a cheesy show that was!!), but I guess I should've asked who set the standard for music videos as a whole. The Can You Feel It video had some pretty outstanding effects for it's time. Another one that comes to mind is Devo's Whip It video...lousy production values on that one, but it sticks with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9malySv1bE
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:26 am

Can't stand "videos" that don't have the band members. I'll take the Separate Ways video all day long over some fucking fly with Ocasek's horse-faced mug on a fly. As for the Thriller video I'll take the Billie Jean video any day of the week. I don't need a bunch of fucking tippy toer drama fags prancing around in werewolf gear to make me like the song. Just give me the King Of Pop strutting around on an illuminating sidewalk. Videos should be live clips of the band or the band members themselves not a screen play with drama dorks.

PS The Oh Sherrie video sucks. Faithfully, on the other hand, is superb.
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:28 am

Saint John wrote:Can't stand "videos" that don't have the band members. I'll take the Separate Ways video all day long over some fucking fly with Ocasek's horse-faced mug on a fly. As for the Thriller video I'll take the Billie Jean video any day of the week. I don't need a bunch of fucking tippy toer drama fags prancing around in werewolf gear to make me like the song. Just give me the King Of Pop strutting around on an illuminating sidewalk. Videos should be live clips of the band or the band members themselves not a screen play with drama dorks.

PS The Oh Sherrie video sucks. Faithfully, on the other hand, is superb.


People who do drama are fags?..
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:38 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Saint John wrote:Can't stand "videos" that don't have the band members. I'll take the Separate Ways video all day long over some fucking fly with Ocasek's horse-faced mug on a fly. As for the Thriller video I'll take the Billie Jean video any day of the week. I don't need a bunch of fucking tippy toer drama fags prancing around in werewolf gear to make me like the song. Just give me the King Of Pop strutting around on an illuminating sidewalk. Videos should be live clips of the band or the band members themselves not a screen play with drama dorks.

PS The Oh Sherrie video sucks. Faithfully, on the other hand, is superb.


People who do drama are fags?..


Probably a bit harsh on my part, but it's been my experience having gone to a liberal arts college and having hung out with some people at Chicago's Colombia College that there's a large contingent of drama majors that are into homosexuality, bisexuality, and weird fucking orgies. Sorry, but that's not how I roll. Not to mention that hollywood is basically a bunch of disillusioned weirdos.
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:27 am

Saint John wrote:Can't stand "videos" that don't have the band members. I'll take the Separate Ways video all day long over some fucking fly with Ocasek's horse-faced mug on a fly. As for the Thriller video I'll take the Billie Jean video any day of the week. I don't need a bunch of fucking tippy toer drama fags prancing around in werewolf gear to make me like the song. Just give me the King Of Pop strutting around on an illuminating sidewalk. Videos should be live clips of the band or the band members themselves not a screen play with drama dorks.

PS The Oh Sherrie video sucks. Faithfully, on the other hand, is superb.


That's what made Photograph so good the first time I saw it..as that was my into to who the band was.. 8)
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Postby Saint John » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:37 am

piecesofeight wrote:
Saint John wrote:Can't stand "videos" that don't have the band members. I'll take the Separate Ways video all day long over some fucking fly with Ocasek's horse-faced mug on a fly. As for the Thriller video I'll take the Billie Jean video any day of the week. I don't need a bunch of fucking tippy toer drama fags prancing around in werewolf gear to make me like the song. Just give me the King Of Pop strutting around on an illuminating sidewalk. Videos should be live clips of the band or the band members themselves not a screen play with drama dorks.

PS The Oh Sherrie video sucks. Faithfully, on the other hand, is superb.


That's what made Photograph so good the first time I saw it..as that was my into to who the band was.. 8)


Perfect example of keeping it about the band and telling a story at the same time. Good call. 8)
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