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Postby Behshad » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:48 am

Saint John wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:Dan, if Neal can play that well, then it's too bad Journey has been holding him back all these years :P :lol:


Sarcasm aside, this is very much true. While Neal has aged some and he's probably not as technically sound as maybe a few years ago, he'd still dust this backwoods fucking hillbilly into submission in about 3 minutes. Where do you find these obscure artists full of nothing more than mediocrity, Behshad? Al Jazeera? :lol: :twisted: :P

I dont think Lynn meant is as sarcasm , its the fact, for anyone with unbiased ears/eyes and as little as an ounce of musical skills :)
I think it is hard to convince you about great guitar skills, simply because the only instrument you ever touched was the flute :) Show that video to Neal and he will tell you how mediocre that hillbilly is,,,,,
Also if it was from Al Jazeera, the guys name would me Mustafa Mill not Mathew,,,,,
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:40 pm

Behshad wrote: Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does.


Thank Christ FOR that, too.

All Neal can do is create immediate, accessible, infectious guitar licks and wrap them within the framework of great rock, rocknroll and poprock music, what a hack. :roll:
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Re: Don't Be Fooled...It's Not Journey

Postby StoneCold » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:47 pm

stevew2 wrote:
Journeys not Journey either lol


It's been on the slow side here. Tell us why Journey's not Journey . :)
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Postby SF-Dano » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:33 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise. 8)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg


You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something? :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted:


dude,,,you have NO clue what GUITAR SKILLS are, if you think Neal(or Satch or that matter) can play the stuff this guys plays as accurate an as smoothley,,, again youre blinded by your biased opinion rather than openminded views,,,,, Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does.
Of course you would have to be a guitar player to appreciate this guys skills,,, but for someone who only thinks radio hits are worthy of bonus points, I will cut you some slack :)


Dude, the guy in the links you posted can definately play. But again you make a point by saying "Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does." The point is Neal doesn't have to play arpeggios to be considered great. Again, it is all down to criteria. I would bet you that the guy in your post while "technically" stellar could not sit down and write and play an emotional piece with just the right playing touch that the song required. It is called playing within the song. Many of these "Neoclassical" players do not know when to slow it down. An old addage is - sometimes you can say more with 1 held note than a frenzy of licks. And alot of times that one held note is more appropriate.

That said, if technique is your sole criteria, I can definately understand where you're coming from on the guitarists you mention as being elite. And don't get me wrong, I love listening to a good clean shredder also. :)
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Postby Saint John » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:39 am

SF-Dano wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise. 8)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg


You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something? :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted:


dude,,,you have NO clue what GUITAR SKILLS are, if you think Neal(or Satch or that matter) can play the stuff this guys plays as accurate an as smoothley,,, again youre blinded by your biased opinion rather than openminded views,,,,, Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does.
Of course you would have to be a guitar player to appreciate this guys skills,,, but for someone who only thinks radio hits are worthy of bonus points, I will cut you some slack :)


Dude, the guy in the links you posted can definately play. But again you make a point by saying "Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does." The point is Neal doesn't have to play arpeggios to be considered great. Again, it is all down to criteria. I would bet you that the guy in your post while "technically" stellar could not sit down and write and play an emotional piece with just the right playing touch that the song required. It is called playing within the song. Many of these "Neoclassical" players do not know when to slow it down. An old addage is - sometimes you can say more with 1 held note than a frenzy of licks. And alot of times that one held note is more appropriate.

That said, if technique is your sole criteria, I can definately understand where you're coming from on the guitarists you mention as being elite. And don't get me wrong, I love listening to a good clean shredder also. :)


Well said, dude. Neal's guitar sings and people realize that. His guitar is an instrument of the heart that has emotion and soul...something "arpeggios" boy seems to lack greatly.
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Postby mistiejourney » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:33 pm

Saint John wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise. 8)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg


You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something? :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted:


dude,,,you have NO clue what GUITAR SKILLS are, if you think Neal(or Satch or that matter) can play the stuff this guys plays as accurate an as smoothley,,, again youre blinded by your biased opinion rather than openminded views,,,,, Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does.
Of course you would have to be a guitar player to appreciate this guys skills,,, but for someone who only thinks radio hits are worthy of bonus points, I will cut you some slack :)


Dude, the guy in the links you posted can definately play. But again you make a point by saying "Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does." The point is Neal doesn't have to play arpeggios to be considered great. Again, it is all down to criteria. I would bet you that the guy in your post while "technically" stellar could not sit down and write and play an emotional piece with just the right playing touch that the song required. It is called playing within the song. Many of these "Neoclassical" players do not know when to slow it down. An old addage is - sometimes you can say more with 1 held note than a frenzy of licks. And alot of times that one held note is more appropriate.

That said, if technique is your sole criteria, I can definately understand where you're coming from on the guitarists you mention as being elite. And don't get me wrong, I love listening to a good clean shredder also. :)


Well said, dude. Neal's guitar sings and people realize that. His guitar is an instrument of the heart that has emotion and soul...something "arpeggios" boy seems to lack greatly.


BINGO!!!!!!!! :D Neal can shred and keep a melody at the same time - the guy is phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal.
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Postby Shadowsong » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:49 pm

Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise. 8)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg


Wow...liquid fingers

Oh give him a break.

Everyone's talent lies somewhere
it's having the whole package that takes it through.
Playing, writing & creative expression.

Not everyone is Neal.... a good strong solid creative player
Steve Vai...well he's nice to look at...LOL & not too bad on the ears...
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:05 pm

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Postby stevew2 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:10 pm

Thats fucked up my whole response got deleted ,great
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Re: Don't Be Fooled...It's Not Journey

Postby stevew2 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:12 pm

StoneCold wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
Journeys not Journey either lol


It's been on the slow side here. Tell us why Journey's not Journey . :)
Ill try again later
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Postby Behshad » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:46 pm

Saint John wrote:
SF-Dano wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise. 8)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg


You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something? :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted:


dude,,,you have NO clue what GUITAR SKILLS are, if you think Neal(or Satch or that matter) can play the stuff this guys plays as accurate an as smoothley,,, again youre blinded by your biased opinion rather than openminded views,,,,, Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does.
Of course you would have to be a guitar player to appreciate this guys skills,,, but for someone who only thinks radio hits are worthy of bonus points, I will cut you some slack :)


Dude, the guy in the links you posted can definately play. But again you make a point by saying "Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does." The point is Neal doesn't have to play arpeggios to be considered great. Again, it is all down to criteria. I would bet you that the guy in your post while "technically" stellar could not sit down and write and play an emotional piece with just the right playing touch that the song required. It is called playing within the song. Many of these "Neoclassical" players do not know when to slow it down. An old addage is - sometimes you can say more with 1 held note than a frenzy of licks. And alot of times that one held note is more appropriate.

That said, if technique is your sole criteria, I can definately understand where you're coming from on the guitarists you mention as being elite. And don't get me wrong, I love listening to a good clean shredder also. :)


Well said, dude. Neal's guitar sings and people realize that. His guitar is an instrument of the heart that has emotion and soul...something "arpeggios" boy seems to lack greatly.


While I agree with SF-Dano, I think Sain John's got it all wrong....
Neal's guitar does NOT sing....its just there in the background along with other instruments,,,,,,He is a typical melodic rock player, which there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.When a guitar sings it stands out as strongly as the vocals ,which doesnt happen in Neal's case too often....Neal is great at what he is doin but he doesnt have any specific skills that puts him above average guitar players from 80's hairbands such as Poison, Bon Jovi, Tesla, Cinderella, Warrant, etc etc..... He is great but far from the greatest....
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