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Postby ttango1 » Sat May 10, 2008 6:08 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3388268

Florida player allegedly used deceased woman's credit card

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida Gators safety Jamar Hornsby turned himself in Friday for allegedly using the credit card of a woman killed six months ago in an accident that also killed a teammate.

Hornsby, 21, a sophomore from Jacksonville, faces a third-degree felony count of fraudulent use of a credit card for more than $100, and a misdemeanor charge of credit card theft.

The story was first reported by The Gainesville Sun.

Hornsby allegedly used a credit card issued to Ashley Slonina, a University of Florida student who died in an October 2007 motorcycle accident that also took the life of Gators walk-on Michael Guilford. It was not known how Hornsby obtained the card.

Hornsby is accused of using the card starting Oct. 13, 2007, the day after the woman's death, the newspaper said.

Hornsby's attorney, Huntley Johnson, said it was learned that a judge had issued a warrant for Hornsby's arrest Thursday. He said his client will cooperate with authorities.


Hornsby appeared in court Friday morning and was released on his own recognizance. Alachua County Court Judge William E. Davis explained he ordered Hornsby's release because any money Hornsby spent on bond would be money that he could not repay to Slonina's family, The Sun reported.

Slonina, the girlfriend of another Florida teammate, was apparently getting a ride home from Guilford when his motorcycle struck a curb at high speed near campus early on the morning of Oct. 12.

Hornsby, who has played the last two seasons mostly on special teams, has had two prior off-field problems during his Florida career. He was cited in April 2007 on misdemeanor criminal mischief charges when he caused $750 damage to a car by throwing a man onto the vehicle's hood during a fight. He also was suspended from playing in last year's game against Georgia for selling his tickets to the game, a violation of NCAA rules.

Guilford, a walk-on defensive back, had earned national attention for playing the role of Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith on the scout team during preparation for the 2007 Bowl Championship Series national title game, which the Gators won 41-14.

Hornsby did not speak in court, except to answer the judge's questions, according to the Sun. Johnson said Hornsby would likely spend part of his release with his mother in Jacksonville until his next court appearance.

Information from ESPN.com college football reporter Mark Schlabach and The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Re: Scarab...This can't be the kind of athlete that Urban wa

Postby ScarabGator » Sat May 10, 2008 9:23 am

ttango1 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3388268

Florida player allegedly used deceased woman's credit card

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida Gators safety Jamar Hornsby turned himself in Friday for allegedly using the credit card of a woman killed six months ago in an accident that also killed a teammate.

Hornsby, 21, a sophomore from Jacksonville, faces a third-degree felony count of fraudulent use of a credit card for more than $100, and a misdemeanor charge of credit card theft.

The story was first reported by The Gainesville Sun.

Hornsby allegedly used a credit card issued to Ashley Slonina, a University of Florida student who died in an October 2007 motorcycle accident that also took the life of Gators walk-on Michael Guilford. It was not known how Hornsby obtained the card.

Hornsby is accused of using the card starting Oct. 13, 2007, the day after the woman's death, the newspaper said.

Hornsby's attorney, Huntley Johnson, said it was learned that a judge had issued a warrant for Hornsby's arrest Thursday. He said his client will cooperate with authorities.


Hornsby appeared in court Friday morning and was released on his own recognizance. Alachua County Court Judge William E. Davis explained he ordered Hornsby's release because any money Hornsby spent on bond would be money that he could not repay to Slonina's family, The Sun reported.

Slonina, the girlfriend of another Florida teammate, was apparently getting a ride home from Guilford when his motorcycle struck a curb at high speed near campus early on the morning of Oct. 12.

Hornsby, who has played the last two seasons mostly on special teams, has had two prior off-field problems during his Florida career. He was cited in April 2007 on misdemeanor criminal mischief charges when he caused $750 damage to a car by throwing a man onto the vehicle's hood during a fight. He also was suspended from playing in last year's game against Georgia for selling his tickets to the game, a violation of NCAA rules.

Guilford, a walk-on defensive back, had earned national attention for playing the role of Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith on the scout team during preparation for the 2007 Bowl Championship Series national title game, which the Gators won 41-14.

Hornsby did not speak in court, except to answer the judge's questions, according to the Sun. Johnson said Hornsby would likely spend part of his release with his mother in Jacksonville until his next court appearance.

Information from ESPN.com college football reporter Mark Schlabach and The Associated Press was used in this report.


We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.
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Postby ScarabGator » Sat May 10, 2008 9:27 am

It appears Urban is doing the right thing and this thug is no longer a Gator. Just what I expected though, we dont tolerate this crap at UF.
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Re: Scarab...This can't be the kind of athlete that Urban wa

Postby AlteredDNA » Sat May 10, 2008 10:11 am

ScarabGator wrote:We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.


You mean re-instated Thomas for the LSU game, and THEN kicked him off AFTER the game... :) :wink:
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Postby ScarabGator » Sat May 10, 2008 11:57 am

AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.


You mean re-instated Thomas for the LSU game, and THEN kicked him off AFTER the game... :) :wink:


gave the kid one more chance...which he failed as well...on most matters you consider immaturity and being away from home the first time. But this incident with hornsby is terrible and unforgiveable. Bravo to Urban for quickly doing the right thing.
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Re: Scarab...This can't be the kind of athlete that Urban wa

Postby AlteredDNA » Sat May 10, 2008 12:27 pm

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ScarabGator wrote:We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.


You mean re-instated Thomas for the LSU game, and THEN kicked him off AFTER the game... :) :wink:


gave the kid one more chance...which he failed as well...on most matters you consider immaturity and being away from home the first time. But this incident with hornsby is terrible and unforgiveable. Bravo to Urban for quickly doing the right thing.


One more chance, huh? OK... :wink:

He had two positive drug tests before the season started, set out for the cupcake games against Southern Miss and Kentucky, as well as a mediocre Alabama team, and then just happens to get reinstated for the toughest game of the season. Also, getting him back by appealing the drug test was a bit "interesting" as well... :?
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Postby tj » Sat May 10, 2008 1:23 pm

I have watched for years as athletes who have so much potential and opportunity blow it. I understand immaturity, being away from home for the first time, etc. Also understand the came from a poor background arguement. But when someone gives you the opportunity for a free education and you just blow it, I don't get it.

I was at Oklahoma when this went down 20 years ago. Some will never learn. :?

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Postby Maui Tom » Sat May 10, 2008 1:26 pm

kid just wanted some extra credit...
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Re: Scarab...This can't be the kind of athlete that Urban wa

Postby ScarabGator » Sat May 10, 2008 10:44 pm

AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.


You mean re-instated Thomas for the LSU game, and THEN kicked him off AFTER the game... :) :wink:


gave the kid one more chance...which he failed as well...on most matters you consider immaturity and being away from home the first time. But this incident with hornsby is terrible and unforgiveable. Bravo to Urban for quickly doing the right thing.


One more chance, huh? OK... :wink:

He had two positive drug tests before the season started, set out for the cupcake games against Southern Miss and Kentucky, as well as a mediocre Alabama team, and then just happens to get reinstated for the toughest game of the season. Also, getting him back by appealing the drug test was a bit "interesting" as well... :?


This doesnt make it right by any means but maybe Urban looked at it as he is a kid in college and he smoked some pot...if thats the worst thing any of us did in college than we are saints. But since he is an athlete he must set a different example which is why the 3 strike rule is in effect in college sports for incidents of this nature, which Urban followed and then released Thomas. How many chances did Perriloux(Sp?) get at that LSU school you keep mentioning before he was kicked out? I lost count. But Jamar did something indescribably horrendous and no other chance is due to this piece of garbage. I remember when Michael Guilford and his girlfriend died on that motorcycle last year. I thought what a wonderful thing some of his teammates were doing by cleaning up and packing their apartments so the fam's wouldnt have to. Its like her family is having to go thru this all over again now....By the way-as alumni from the University of Florida I took it upon myself last night to send an email to Bernie Machen, the school prez, and Urban Meyer telling them how much I respect and commend them for the prompt handling of this matter and how proud I am to be a Gator.... before anyone says "Oh, this bullshitter says he has their emails..." they are listed on the UF Alumni Association website and are public......I urge all other Gators on here to do the same....
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Re: Scarab...This can't be the kind of athlete that Urban wa

Postby AlteredDNA » Sat May 10, 2008 10:56 pm

ScarabGator wrote:
AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.


You mean re-instated Thomas for the LSU game, and THEN kicked him off AFTER the game... :) :wink:


gave the kid one more chance...which he failed as well...on most matters you consider immaturity and being away from home the first time. But this incident with hornsby is terrible and unforgiveable. Bravo to Urban for quickly doing the right thing.


One more chance, huh? OK... :wink:

He had two positive drug tests before the season started, set out for the cupcake games against Southern Miss and Kentucky, as well as a mediocre Alabama team, and then just happens to get reinstated for the toughest game of the season. Also, getting him back by appealing the drug test was a bit "interesting" as well... :?


This doesnt make it right by any means but maybe Urban looked at it as he is a kid in college and he smoked some pot...if thats the worst thing any of us did in college than we are saints. But since he is an athlete he must set a different example which is why the 3 strike rule is in effect in college sports for incidents of this nature, which Urban followed and then released Thomas. How many chances did Perriloux(Sp?) get at that LSU school you keep mentioning before he was kicked out? I lost count. But Jamar did something indescribably horrendous and no other chance is due to this piece of garbage. I remember when Michael Guilford and his girlfriend died on that motorcycle last year. I thought what a wonderful thing some of his teammates were doing by cleaning up and packing their apartments so the fam's wouldnt have to. Its like her family is having to go thru this all over again now....By the way-as alumni from the University of Florida I took it upon myself last night to send an email to Bernie Machen, the school prez, and Urban Meyer telling them how much I respect and commend them for the prompt handling of this matter and how proud I am to be a Gator.... before anyone says "Oh, this bullshitter says he has their emails..." they are listed on the UF Alumni Association website and are public......I urge all other Gators on here to do the same....


Agreed that Perrilloux should have been gone earlier, but you claim that UF was giving Thomas a "second chance", when in reality he had already screwed up several times, but they still managed to finagle a way for him to play in their biggest / toughest game of the season.
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Re: Scarab...This can't be the kind of athlete that Urban wa

Postby ScarabGator » Sat May 10, 2008 11:02 pm

AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
AlteredDNA wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:We DONT tolerate this in Gainesville and Urban has proven that he will throw off the captain of the defense if he has to, just like Marcus Thomas 2 years ago. I certainly hope Urban sends a strong message that this is not the way Gators behave, and I hope Hornsby is released from the team.


You mean re-instated Thomas for the LSU game, and THEN kicked him off AFTER the game... :) :wink:


gave the kid one more chance...which he failed as well...on most matters you consider immaturity and being away from home the first time. But this incident with hornsby is terrible and unforgiveable. Bravo to Urban for quickly doing the right thing.


One more chance, huh? OK... :wink:

He had two positive drug tests before the season started, set out for the cupcake games against Southern Miss and Kentucky, as well as a mediocre Alabama team, and then just happens to get reinstated for the toughest game of the season. Also, getting him back by appealing the drug test was a bit "interesting" as well... :?


This doesnt make it right by any means but maybe Urban looked at it as he is a kid in college and he smoked some pot...if thats the worst thing any of us did in college than we are saints. But since he is an athlete he must set a different example which is why the 3 strike rule is in effect in college sports for incidents of this nature, which Urban followed and then released Thomas. How many chances did Perriloux(Sp?) get at that LSU school you keep mentioning before he was kicked out? I lost count. But Jamar did something indescribably horrendous and no other chance is due to this piece of garbage. I remember when Michael Guilford and his girlfriend died on that motorcycle last year. I thought what a wonderful thing some of his teammates were doing by cleaning up and packing their apartments so the fam's wouldnt have to. Its like her family is having to go thru this all over again now....By the way-as alumni from the University of Florida I took it upon myself last night to send an email to Bernie Machen, the school prez, and Urban Meyer telling them how much I respect and commend them for the prompt handling of this matter and how proud I am to be a Gator.... before anyone says "Oh, this bullshitter says he has their emails..." they are listed on the UF Alumni Association website and are public......I urge all other Gators on here to do the same....


Agreed that Perrilloux should have been gone earlier, but you claim that UF was giving Thomas a "second chance", when in reality he had already screwed up several times, but they still managed to finagle a way for him to play in their biggest / toughest game of the season.


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