SO, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO STEVE AUGERI?

[Red13JoePa]

like Perry. They should have dumped that ego soaked douche rag around 1987. Instead, they let him pack his huge beak on ice and go on an indefinite sabbatical while they sat around for a decade.

Why must you pull Steve Perry's good name through the sludge at every twist and turn, what gives you the right to publically slander
a person's name and reputation like this? I am truly interested in why you feel that because Steve Perry is a public artist that it gives you the right to
make such fraudulent claims against him? You must really have low self esteem to have to sit on a message board day in and out and
write such horrid remarks about someone that you don't know.

I"m not going to ready any more of your bullshit.

Saint John, don't answer until the rationales for a decade of Augeri bashing and a solid year of Schon and Cain utter evisceration are provided.

[Saint John]

The cold hard facts are that both Augeri and Jon have spoken out how it was Augeri's solo writing that served as the creative impetus for the 'Generations" album.

I don't care if Augeri strummed the guitar parts with his pubic hairs. They didn't waste any of the 300 songs Cain is said to have on his laptop on a dude with a tattered voice. They were creative, but had no voice to sing so they mailed in musical parts that were probably done over coffee while they read Lee Phillips' latest complaints.

[Deb]

1) Chalfant is hands down more popular than JSS (though neither is wildly known).
2) Both have had nice careers as "journeymen"...no pun intended. Chalfant obviously had the bigger peak in his career collaborating with some of the world's finest musicians in The Storm (as did Jeff in Journey, but he had no original music in his brief tenure).
3) Who gives a shit who Andrew sides with?!

No he's not.......especially worldwide. If you lay all of their past work down and ask people who they may have heard something from....I'll wage it would be JSS moreso. And obviously you've never checked out Jeff's past catalogue.......he's worked with and colaborated with, some very talented musicians himself.

Ya know Danny, some times I see your lips a flappin, but just coming out.

[Saint John]

1) Chalfant is hands down more popular than JSS (though neither is wildly known).
2) Both have had nice careers as "journeymen"...no pun intended. Chalfant obviously had the bigger peak in his career collaborating with some of the world's finest musicians in The Storm (as did Jeff in Journey, but he had no original music in his brief tenure).
3) Who gives a shit who Andrew sides with?!

No he's not.......especially worldwide. If you lay all of their past work down and ask people who they may have heard something from....I'll wage it would be JSS moreso. And obviously you've never checked out Jeff's past catalogue.......he's worked with and colaborated with, some very talented musicians himself.

Ya know Danny, some times I see your lips a flappin, but just coming out.

Refresh my memory with Jeff's Top 40 hits in the U.S. and how many times he played to several thousand people singing original music. Kevin Chalfant had a #12 album in 1982 as lead vocalist with AOR band 707 and scored two Mainstream Rock radio hits with the #6 “I’ve Got a Lot to Learn About Love” (which also reached #26 on the Hot 100) and the #22 “Show Me the Way” while in The Storm. Your turn.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don't care if Augeri strummed the guitar parts with his pubic hairs. They didn't waste any of the 300 songs Cain is said to have on his laptop on a dude with a tattered voice. They were creative, but had no voice to sing so they mailed in musical parts that were probably done over coffee while they read Lee Phillips' latest complaints.

I don't even know who you're responding to anymore...
By two band member accounts, Journey had no intention of releasing another Journey album until Augeri started writing his own solo material.
Was the band's songwriting apathy due to Augeri's vocal condition? - Quite possibly. It's even an argument I have made several times, but that's neither here nor there.

[Deb]

1) Chalfant is hands down more popular than JSS (though neither is wildly known).
2) Both have had nice careers as "journeymen"...no pun intended. Chalfant obviously had the bigger peak in his career collaborating with some of the world's finest musicians in The Storm (as did Jeff in Journey, but he had no original music in his brief tenure).
3) Who gives a shit who Andrew sides with?!

No he's not.......especially worldwide. If you lay all of their past work down and ask people who they may have heard something from....I'll wage it would be JSS moreso. And obviously you've never checked out Jeff's past catalogue.......he's worked with and colaborated with, some very talented musicians himself.

Ya know Danny, some times I see your lips a flappin, but just coming out.

Refresh my memory with Jeff's Top 40 hits in the U.S. and how many times he played to several thousand people singing original music. Kevin Chalfant had a #12 album in 1982 as lead vocalist with AOR band 707 and scored two Mainstream Rock radio hits with the #6 “I’ve Got a Lot to Learn About Love” (which also reached #26 on the Hot 100) and the #22 “Show Me the Way” while in The Storm. Your turn.

Like how you just skip over the "worldwide" part of my post. Between his work in Journey, Yngwie and Talisman and his vocals on Rockstar, I think more people "worldwide" have heard Jeff's voice. Besides, my musical tastes DO NOT lie in what is popular or chart topping. I know that EM and JSS aren't selling and charting what the likes of the Britney Spears and Justin Timberlakes are, but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent. So, you always rattling off chart position and popularity goes in one ear and out the other with me. Your turn.

[stevew2]

Say what you want . Steve A was good for Journey and would have been even better if the band remembered they arent 20 year olds, and there singer wasnt 20 years old. If they book this year like they did in the past, they will need a twenty something singer or tapes. We will see

[brywool]

Steve Augeri brought back life into Journey, They hired him and he gave it his all.I was into country till Steve A revived Journey. They could have done it with other singers. They didnt. I t was Steve A ,Coolest guy you could meet . He got me any many others {maybe veterans on this board who wont admit it} into Journey again. He will do fine and I will support him. It will be interersting to see what happens to Journey 8 years from now. { if there is a Journey} That is how long Steve A toughed it out with the band .He deserves much more credit than he recieved

HOLY CRAP! I AGREE WITH A STEVEW2 POST!!!!

Also, like it or not, Augeri WAS the catalyst for Generations. It's been said many times.
Regarding Perry... I also am real pissed at the guy for f'ing the band over, which he TOTALLY did during his time with them and afterwards. Equal cut when not performing, writing or doing anything? Might be a smart businessman, but him making money when not performing with the band stinks like Barbara Bush's Douche Bag...

whoa, did I say that? I'm channeling Dean....

[finalfight]

1) Chalfant is hands down more popular than JSS (though neither is wildly known).
2) Both have had nice careers as "journeymen"...no pun intended. Chalfant obviously had the bigger peak in his career collaborating with some of the world's finest musicians in The Storm (as did Jeff in Journey, but he had no original music in his brief tenure).
3) Who gives a shit who Andrew sides with?!

No he's not.......especially worldwide. If you lay all of their past work down and ask people who they may have heard something from....I'll wage it would be JSS moreso. And obviously you've never checked out Jeff's past catalogue.......he's worked with and colaborated with, some very talented musicians himself.

Ya know Danny, some times I see your lips a flappin, but just coming out.

Refresh my memory with Jeff's Top 40 hits in the U.S. and how many times he played to several thousand people singing original music. Kevin Chalfant had a #12 album in 1982 as lead vocalist with AOR band 707 and scored two Mainstream Rock radio hits with the #6 “I’ve Got a Lot to Learn About Love” (which also reached #26 on the Hot 100) and the #22 “Show Me the Way” while in The Storm. Your turn.

Like how you just skip over the "worldwide" part of my post. Between his work in Journey, Yngwie and Talisman and his vocals on Rockstar, I think more people "worldwide" have heard Jeff's voice. Besides, my musical tastes DO NOT lie in what is popular or chart topping. I know that EM and JSS aren't selling and charting what the likes of the Britney Spears and Justin Timberlakes are, but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent. So, you always rattling off chart position and popularity goes in one ear and out the other with me. Your turn.

I'm from the UK and was aware of Chalfant many years before I was aware of JSS. Funnily enough it was the song 'Hold on to the Vision in Your Eyes' from the movie No Retreat, No Surrender that first got my attention.

[stevew2]

Steve Augeri brought back life into Journey, They hired him and he gave it his all.I was into country till Steve A revived Journey. They could have done it with other singers. They didnt. I t was Steve A ,Coolest guy you could meet . He got me any many others {maybe veterans on this board who wont admit it} into Journey again. He will do fine and I will support him. It will be interersting to see what happens to Journey 8 years from now. { if there is a Journey} That is how long Steve A toughed it out with the band .He deserves much more credit than he recieved

HOLY CRAP! I AGREE WITH A STEVEW2 POST!!!!

Also, like it or not, Augeri WAS the catalyst for Generations. It's been said many times.
Regarding Perry... I also am real pissed at the guy for f'ing the band over, which he TOTALLY did during his time with them and afterwards. Equal cut when not performing, writing or doing anything? Might be a smart businessman, but him making money when not performing with the band stinks like Barbara Bush's Douche Bag...

whoa, did I say that? I'm channeling Dean....

I am amazed ,I think your comin round. awesome

[ProgRocker53]

1) Chalfant is hands down more popular than JSS (though neither is wildly known).
2) Both have had nice careers as "journeymen"...no pun intended. Chalfant obviously had the bigger peak in his career collaborating with some of the world's finest musicians in The Storm (as did Jeff in Journey, but he had no original music in his brief tenure).
3) Who gives a shit who Andrew sides with?!

No he's not.......especially worldwide. If you lay all of their past work down and ask people who they may have heard something from....I'll wage it would be JSS moreso. And obviously you've never checked out Jeff's past catalogue.......he's worked with and colaborated with, some very talented musicians himself.

Ya know Danny, some times I see your lips a flappin, but just coming out.

Refresh my memory with Jeff's Top 40 hits in the U.S. and how many times he played to several thousand people singing original music. Kevin Chalfant had a #12 album in 1982 as lead vocalist with AOR band 707 and scored two Mainstream Rock radio hits with the #6 “I’ve Got a Lot to Learn About Love” (which also reached #26 on the Hot 100) and the #22 “Show Me the Way” while in The Storm. Your turn.

I haven't even heard of 707 until this very post.

[Saint John]

I know that EM and JSS aren't selling and charting

There's a fucking reason for that.

[Saint John]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

[StevePerryHair]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

It's cute how you just keep trying to get us all going Dan

[txfirefighter]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

You left out your main love, Hannah Montana!!! You don't want to exclude her from your list of "superstars."

[StevePerryHair]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

You left out your main love, Hannah Montana!!! You don't want to exclude her from your list of "superstars."

And New Kids on the Block!! Hey, aren't they touring

[txfirefighter]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

You left out your main love, Hannah Montana!!! You don't want to exclude her from your list of "superstars."

And New Kids on the Block!! Hey, aren't they touring

And, while we are at it......Paula Abdul is done "judging" AI now, so maybe she will make some new music and hit the road for your entertainment, Dan.

[StevePerryHair]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

You left out your main love, Hannah Montana!!! You don't want to exclude her from your list of "superstars."

And New Kids on the Block!! Hey, aren't they touring

And, while we are at it......Paula Abdul is done "judging" AI now, so maybe she will make some new music and hit the road for your entertainment, Dan.

What's funny is my son is 14 and he can't stand Justin Timberlake or Britney or any other singer who gets by on their dancing ability and not their actual talent to sing or play instruments. He was downloading songs on his Ipod today and I asked him what he was putting on there and he said " a couple of Pink Floyd songs I've been wanting on there" I don't even listen to them! He's findin this stuff on his own

[Deb]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

Whew, we finally agree on something......I DON'T think they are in the same league as Spears or Timberlake either. When it comes to talent and song writing, they are head and shoulders above BS and JT.

Has Spears actually written any of her songs?

[scarygirl]

but I can definately tell you who has more vocal and musical/writing talent.

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high. They're world famous superstars and Jeff and Eric simply aren't.

You left out your main love, Hannah Montana!!! You don't want to exclude her from your list of "superstars."

Don't mess with Hannah Montana. This is one girl who never misses an episode. She's a great excuse for me to break out me, Lucky Charms cereal.

[journeywoman]

Whatever happened to SA? Guys you will be hearing from him sooner than you think.Stay tuned............btw his new music sounds great!

[lights1961]

Whatever happened to SA? Guys you will be hearing from him sooner than you think.Stay tuned............btw his new music sounds great!

hope so... miss the guy... and yes he did help revive the journey sound...

Rick

[stevew2]

Whatever happened to SA? Guys you will be hearing from him sooner than you think.Stay tuned............btw his new music sounds great!

I cant wait, some clips??

[brywool]

Steve Augeri brought back life into Journey, They hired him and he gave it his all.I was into country till Steve A revived Journey. They could have done it with other singers. They didnt. I t was Steve A ,Coolest guy you could meet . He got me any many others {maybe veterans on this board who wont admit it} into Journey again. He will do fine and I will support him. It will be interersting to see what happens to Journey 8 years from now. { if there is a Journey} That is how long Steve A toughed it out with the band .He deserves much more credit than he recieved

HOLY CRAP! I AGREE WITH A STEVEW2 POST!!!!

Also, like it or not, Augeri WAS the catalyst for Generations. It's been said many times.
Regarding Perry... I also am real pissed at the guy for f'ing the band over, which he TOTALLY did during his time with them and afterwards. Equal cut when not performing, writing or doing anything? Might be a smart businessman, but him making money when not performing with the band stinks like Barbara Bush's Douche Bag...

whoa, did I say that? I'm channeling Dean....

I am amazed ,I think your comin round. awesome

Actually, you and I agree on Augeri. I love the guy. We do not agree on Arnel. I love the guy's voice even more than Augeri's (which takes nothing away from him). YOU need to come around brothah....

[Sarah]

he can't stand Justin Timberlake or Britney or any other singer who gets by on their dancing ability and not their actual talent to sing or play instruments.

Spears, yes. Timberlake, no. He writes his stuff and I don't think he actually dances much in concert anymore.

[RossValoryRocks]

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high.

Yeah Eric and Jeff are MUSICIANS with TALENT. The other 2 are hired hacks would wouldn't know a G# from a volkswagon.

I don't care how many shows Spears and Timberlake ever sold out or how many records they sold...neither is nearly as muscially talented as Jeff or Eric.

Hell...Spears can't even lip sync correctly!

You have evidently been sniffing glue, or drinking some shit beer with turpentine in it. Going to have to work on your musical education in California at the end of June I believe...over some GOOD beer.

No go back to your corner and don't say another word for the night Dan.

[Rick]

If you think that Soto or Martin are even in the same league as Timberlake or Spears you're fucking high.

Yeah Eric and Jeff are MUSICIANS with TALENT. The other 2 of hired hacks would wouldn't know a G# from a volkswagon.

[Duncan]

1) Chalfant is hands down more popular than JSS (though neither is wildly known).
2) Both have had nice careers as "journeymen"...no pun intended. Chalfant obviously had the bigger peak in his career collaborating with some of the world's finest musicians in The Storm (as did Jeff in Journey, but he had no original music in his brief tenure).
3) Who gives a shit who Andrew sides with?!

No he's not.......especially worldwide. If you lay all of their past work down and ask people who they may have heard something from....I'll wage it would be JSS moreso. And obviously you've never checked out Jeff's past catalogue.......he's worked with and colaborated with, some very talented musicians himself.

Ya know Danny, some times I see your lips a flappin, but just coming out.

Refresh my memory with Jeff's Top 40 hits in the U.S. and how many times he played to several thousand people singing original music. Kevin Chalfant had a #12 album in 1982 as lead vocalist with AOR band 707 and scored two Mainstream Rock radio hits with the #6 “I’ve Got a Lot to Learn About Love” (which also reached #26 on the Hot 100) and the #22 “Show Me the Way” while in The Storm. Your turn.

I haven't even heard of 707 until this very post.

Check out some of these samples then buy the CD.

http://www.nehrecords.com/shop/707Megaforce.htm

[Journey69]

Great avatar Duncan...! Love that album.. Brittney and Justin are famous because they are young ,now with it and wow! They are made..The others have to work at it.. I think Deb needs to chill on Eric and JSS..They are good ,but they aren't that good. And she says Jeff's work with Journey,what work? Hell,I would have sung for Journey after Augeri left if I could..I'm tired of hearing that Jeff bailed them out..STFU! He has wanted to be in that group for yrs.. He was lucky they called IMO!

[Rick]

Great avatar Duncan...! Love that album.. Brittney and Justin are famous because they are young ,now with it and wow! They are made..The others have to work at it.. I think Deb needs to chill on Eric and JSS..They are good ,but they aren't that good. And she says Jeff's work with Journey,what work? Hell,I would have sung for Journey after Augeri left if I could..I'm tired of hearing that Jeff bailed them out..STFU! He has wanted to be in that group for yrs.. He was lucky they called IMO!

Well you can't just open the yellow pages and find a singer to cover Journey's catalog. Journey were lucky as hell that Jeff was available. Of course he wanted to sing for them. Any singer would. If he hadn't been available, they would have lost a lot of money.

I'm a big Journey fan, but I'm not a fan of the way the organization treated JSS or SA. I think they were more than patient with SP though. I guess they decided that was the last time.