CBS Sunday Morning..

[StoneCold]

Here's what crazy. When I posted the link a few minutes ago it had 4,900 views. It's now over 8,000.

I know 3,000 MR folks didn't just go over there.

well if there are 301+million people in America and Journey has sold over 50 million
albums, then 1 out of every 6 homes has a Journey interest

Looks like page views aren't updated instantaneously. Still at 8,069 so the 3,000 add is since the last update an hour or two ago.

[Shadowsong]

JRNY is on TV because of Azoff...

Speaking of Irving Azoff

I wonder how it went when he got the word
Neal wanted to import Journey's new singer from the Phillipines

LOL

NEAL:
OOOH, Yeah, I heard him on You Tube...

He's Great!

IAzoff:
What mushrooms's Neals been smoking?


Seriously

Arnel's fairy tale storycome true tugs at the heartstrings
Child on the street homeless pickin up cans to survive
makes it in the big city
where the lights never go to sleep///

Hey, that sounds like a song...

[StoneCold]

It's now on the 2nd "most viewed" page for "Music".

http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=mp&t=t&c=10&e=en_US&p=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89_2UivtEhs

[Pelata]

I understand it's all about promoting JRNY as they are now, but this revisionist history thing is annoying. And "the magic is back"??? Back???? They had magic with Augeri for 8 damn years and tossed it when he got sick.

Magic, my ass...only if "magic" is now defined as "a young guy who can keep my old ass on the road 8 more years".

The band had struggled for many years with a singer in poor vocal health and had to eventually resort to becoming a Madonna-like stage show with prerecorded vocals and front of house trickery. However you feel about him, JSS' short tenure in the band didn't vocally replicate what those in the band obviously felt was their traditional signature sound. I think the point was that they felt re-energized with a familiar and capable sound behind the microphone that they didn't have to worry was going to crap out from one night to the next.

Noted. But, the band still gave the same soundbytes about Augeri & JSS. "We're better than ever...", "The magic is back...", "We sound better than ever...", blah blah blah. Augeri's vocal health aside (which I am convinced could have been avoided), he was still dropped like a bad habit when JSS began getting good reviews. Then JSS is turn was dropped in favor of "the signature sound"? After Neal went on record saying the songs sounded better than ever? After he was made "official" lead vocalist? I call shenannigans. As was stated, way to write off the last 10 years.

Good luck, Arnel. Piss off, Journey. As good as some of the new songs are, this is where I get off.

[DracIsBack]

well if there are 301+million people in America and Journey has sold over 50 million
albums, then 1 out of every 6 homes has a Journey interest

You're assuming people in America are the only ones who buy Journey albums. Interest does extend outside of the US borders.

[finalfight]

Noted. But, the band still gave the same soundbytes about Augeri & JSS. "We're better than ever...", "The magic is back...", "We sound better than ever...", blah blah blah. Augeri's vocal health aside (which I am convinced could have been avoided), he was still dropped like a bad habit when JSS began getting good reviews. Then JSS is turn was dropped in favor of "the signature sound"? After Neal went on record saying the songs sounded better than ever? After he was made "official" lead vocalist? I call shenannigans. As was stated, way to write off the last 10 years.

Good luck, Arnel. Piss off, Journey. As good as some of the new songs are, this is where I get off.

Thing is now they are backing it up. Whilst they might not be better than ever to many it is hard to dismiss the fact that the band is currently riding a wave and firing on all cylinders. Frighteningly close to being as good as they've ever been.

[SteveForever]

well if there are 301+million people in America and Journey has sold over 50 million
albums, then 1 out of every 6 homes has a Journey interest

You're assuming people in America are the only ones who buy Journey albums. Interest does extend outside of the US borders.

oops, sorry that was my lame attempt at being a statistician

[Jeremey]

Jeremey, while its noble of you to try to absolve the sins of the father, it shouldn't be your (or any fans') responsibility.
At one point, Neal said Jeff was singing those songs better than anyone since the 80's.
Whenever Neal wants to drop the iron curtain and give Andy a no-holds-barred interview/apology about Jeff and Tapegate, he knows his number.
After all, isn't one of the twelve steps to sobriety to make "a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all."

This is not an attempt at gallows humor, I am dead fucking serious.

Just to clarify, since it seemed to be implied in an earlier post. My royalty payment for Never Walk Away is in no way contingent on my support or cheerleading for the new record or this new lineup. I'll get paid even if I say it sucks and Arnel sucks, regardless....I'm coming with these comments as a fan, first and foremost, for the first time in nearly a year, being able to step outside the situation and discuss things amongst the rank and file Journey fan. I'm not absolving anyone of anything, just making an observation based on the slight bit more information that I have about the band's spirit at the time...When I met up with them last year, they seemed beaten and spent. I'm just observing that change for the better...

[brywool]

Sorry, but the ONLY reason this was on TV was to tell Arnel's story. It had nothing to do with Journey's new CD or the history of the band or anything else. The only story here is Arnel's discovery and his rags to riches tale. Any glossing over of Perry's departure, Augeri's time with the band, or JSS had to do with the 9 minute running time and the focus of the story being Arnel being plucked from obscurity to front a legendary rock band.

Yeah, I have to agree. If you take out Arnel's story, what the hell else is there to write about or report about Journey? Arnel's backstory has given the band a new kind of dramatic appeal. With older Journey, they could pretty much just talk about the music (hey, whatta concept!) or infighting with the band. With Arnel, his whole story reads like a movie. It's a lot more interesting to the general public than "well, I play a Les Paul on this track, and my favorite color is blue..." . Arnel makes Journey interesting outside of the music, which for good or bad, is interesting to the casual observer. Even someone that doesn't dig Journey's music can't help but go "wow, that was a good story". Perry and Augeri had their time in the spotlight. Do the journalistic pieces need to keep rehashing it? As much of a Perry fan as I am, I get tired of hearing the same old stuff- "I was toast"- Jesus, he's still saying that. Augeri had his time in the spotlight too. Jss didn't and it would've been interesting to hear about that, but the story here is Arnel and Journey now, not then. I thought it was a decent piece. I'm sure that Journey's publicity machine got them this and Ellen, etc., but I don't believe that anybody'd really give a rip if it was another Augeri album, because, as good as those were, they did nothing and it would've been seen as the same old thing. With Arnel, it's interesting, it's untested, and that's also part of the story.

[SteveForever]

Probably already been brought up here...but does anyone believe for a minute that
Neal found Arnel by googling? The Zoo's videos were posted over and over on MR,
I have to believe he found out about Arnel on the fo-RUM, oh yeah...

[brywool]

Noted. But, the band still gave the same soundbytes about Augeri & JSS. "We're better than ever...", "The magic is back...", "We sound better than ever...", blah blah blah.

Well, in all seriousness, what the hell else COULD they say? If you lose your key member mid tour or mid career, there's going to be bazillions saying 'it's not going to be good as WHOEVER, so I'm not buying a ticket', so the band has to do damage control.
It WOULD be nice if they'd come up with some new lines though. At least they didn't say "toast"

[YoungJRNY]

I understand it's all about promoting JRNY as they are now, but this revisionist history thing is annoying. And "the magic is back"??? Back???? They had magic with Augeri for 8 damn years and tossed it when he got sick.

Magic, my ass...only if "magic" is now defined as "a young guy who can keep my old ass on the road 8 more years".

The band had struggled for many years with a singer in poor vocal health and had to eventually resort to becoming a Madonna-like stage show with prerecorded vocals and front of house trickery. However you feel about him, JSS' short tenure in the band didn't vocally replicate what those in the band obviously felt was their traditional signature sound. I think the point was that they felt re-energized with a familiar and capable sound behind the microphone that they didn't have to worry was going to crap out from one night to the next.

Noted. But, the band still gave the same soundbytes about Augeri & JSS. "We're better than ever...", "The magic is back...", "We sound better than ever...", blah blah blah. Augeri's vocal health aside (which I am convinced could have been avoided), he was still dropped like a bad habit when JSS began getting good reviews. Then JSS is turn was dropped in favor of "the signature sound"? After Neal went on record saying the songs sounded better than ever? After he was made "official" lead vocalist? I call shenannigans. As was stated, way to write off the last 10 years.

Good luck, Arnel. Piss off, Journey. As good as some of the new songs are, this is where I get off.

I'm sure the seat will still be warm on the bus as soon as you decide to jump back on..after all it IS like hot potato or musical chairs in here. "I love Journey I love Journey I love Journey...I hope Journey burns....Journey Rocks!...Damn you Journey...I hate Journey...Journey LIVES!!"

Of course the draw of this all is indeed...Arny's story. We ALL knew this as soon as his hiring months upon months ago. The story is continuing to grow, and it's growing into a GREAT Cinderella story that EVERYONE can love. From the CBS piece, I don't see the huffing and puffing about. About the magic bitching..it makes sense. With Steve Augeri, it gave the audience a notion that Steve Perry was still in the band, when really they were madly mistaken. Augeri gave 8 years to the band, but the last 5 years was a hit and miss touring rampage that left Journey fading away year after year (Lipping, Tapegate, handouts of Generations..) until Finally he had to step out ON TOUR! For JSS he was brought in for Christ sakes and wasn't even looked at or was NEVER a considering to front the band until the desperation stage. They felt the pressure, rushed him as new singer, and set themselves up for something they never wanted. Not only did they lose their lead singer in mid tour, they had to get rid of one that they didn't feel was right for the job. So of course the MAGIC was never there with Augeri and Soto. The whole thing was a shit fest.

With Arnel it gives them good story...a Cinderella story if you will, who people can relate to. Plus it's a great thing for them that he is from another country of the Philippines. It gives the separation of the band and for the fan base to not really HOLD ONTO the past AS MUCH as they had to the past several years. It gives them a good edge, and gives them a better future to rely on. It's just change, and a different one. It's going to be the change for the better in the long-run with the Arnel hiring. Look around.. the world has a new interest of this band because of all those things just mentioned. (Ellen, CBS, Best week ever..etc.)

Whatever was said on the morning show to piss people off to that degree I don't know. What was said was nothing new, and if anything was a respecting bit.

Some people on this Earth were just BORN TO BITCH.

[Pelata]

"Born to bitch"...please.

I think Arnel is a good singer, I think the new songs sound good, I wish Arnel all the luck in the world.

I hate television, PR bullshit and that's exactly what that CBS footage was...television, PR bullshit. The older I get, the lower my tolerance for it. I hate watching fake people act fake on TV (the only sincere one in that footage was Arnel, IMO) and, even if it is one of my favorite bands, it'll make me tune out faster than anything else.

[Art Vandelay]

I like how Arnel sang "Will in Disguise" for the immigrations officer.

[Big J]

I like how Arnel sang "Will in Disguise" for the immigrations officer.

LMFAO

[pinkvelvet]

Probably already been brought up here...but does anyone believe for a minute that
Neal found Arnel by googling? The Zoo's videos were posted over and over on MR,
I have to believe he found out about Arnel on the fo-RUM, oh yeah...

I read on one Arnel interview, it was Neal's girlfriend that found him and told Neal about it.

[NealIsGod]

I like how Arnel sang "Will in Disguise" for the immigrations officer.

LMFAO

Careful, the PC police will bring you up on charges.

[Saint John]

I like how Arnel sang "Will in Disguise" for the immigrations officer.

LMFAO

Careful, the PC police will bring you up on charges.

Not on this one. "Will in disguise" is pretty much what it sounded like he said. Not important, though. He sounds like he should when he sings it and that's all that counts.

[Art Vandelay]

I like how Arnel sang "Will in Disguise" for the immigrations officer.

LMFAO

Careful, the PC police will bring you up on charges.

Not on this one. "Will in disguise" is pretty much what it sounded like he said. Not important, though. He sounds like he should when he sings it and that's all that counts.

100% agreed. Just found it funny.

[Lora]

"Born to bitch"...please.

I think Arnel is a good singer, I think the new songs sound good, I wish Arnel all the luck in the world.

I hate television, PR bullshit and that's exactly what that CBS footage was...television, PR bullshit. The older I get, the lower my tolerance for it. I hate watching fake people act fake on TV (the only sincere one in that footage was Arnel, IMO) and, even if it is one of my favorite bands, it'll make me tune out faster than anything else.

I got the same impression from the CBS footage...Arnel was speaking true and the rest of the guys were using this is a PR moment. They have new product to push and are using every angle available to them. Just good business, I guess. I really do feel for Arnel, though. He's a good singer and I can fully understand how excited he must be to be living his dream. I hope for a happy ending for him.

My favorite quote from the show was Jonathan saying that knowing Arnel made him a better person, or something like that. Right.

[RedWingFan]

Absolutely agree with you 100%!

How anyone can say that this story makes them dislike the band even more is beyond me.

Another Johnny Come Lately.
Have you picked up any cds besides the Greatest Hits yet?

WTF???

I've been a diehard Journey fan since 1981. I own every fucking thing they put out, including every side project. I've literally spent thousands of dollars over the years on Journey or Journey related things.

Johnny come lately??? That's laughable.

I posted that before I saw that you had vented your spleen about the way Augeri was brushed aside.
I retract my statements.

"vented your spleen"....

[SteveForever]

"Born to bitch"...please.

I think Arnel is a good singer, I think the new songs sound good, I wish Arnel all the luck in the world.

I hate television, PR bullshit and that's exactly what that CBS footage was...television, PR bullshit. The older I get, the lower my tolerance for it. I hate watching fake people act fake on TV (the only sincere one in that footage was Arnel, IMO) and, even if it is one of my favorite bands, it'll make me tune out faster than anything else.

I got the same impression from the CBS footage...Arnel was speaking true and the rest of the guys were using this is a PR moment. They have new product to push and are using every angle available to them. Just good business, I guess. I really do feel for Arnel, though. He's a good singer and I can fully understand how excited he must be to be living his dream. I hope for a happy ending for him.

My favorite quote from the show was Jonathan saying that knowing Arnel made him a better person, so something like that. Right.

I wish them luck, but I can't help but be depressed.....sorry guys, but I just wish things could have been different.