The Journey Board

[mistiejourney]

Haha, perusing 9 pages of this thread, I see things have not changed around here. 2 pages of seriousness, 3 pages of off-topic silliness, 3 pages of arguing, and 1 page of diversion.

Like Ganny, since I started posting at MR, never had a urge to go play anywhere else. Thanks, Andrew, for providing this playground for us all to jump in.

Boy, Annie did YOU hit it on the head! That's MR!

[mistiejourney]

We just need to diffuse all the angst with more Dokken threads... Dokken brings peace and happiness to MR.

Please...make it stop. Please....

Please note that we have diverted all attention to Kip Winger. That should neutralize Dokkenitis!

Not so fast!!! I got yours and Deb's subliminal affirmation of my post... haha! Notice that you each post twice after I mention Dokken, keeping my Don smiley in the reply as a signal that the post is directed to me. Each of you has an avatar with Jeff Scott Soto (who sings on the new album LSA) wearing a sports jersey, one with the number 10, and one with the number 4 -- the subliminal message if you scroll thru reads, "10-4, Rip! 10-4, Rip!"

OMG - that's the funniest thing I've read in weeks!

You are good, dude!

[Behshad]

For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.

I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.

Next?

Again with the Cheerleader reference. Please tell us, who are said cheerleaders?

Those who are , know who they are

[AlteredDNA]

For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.

I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.

Next?

Again with the Cheerleader reference. Please tell us, who are said cheerleaders?

Those who are , know who they are

That's what I thought...

[mistiejourney]

Oh geeze!

[Behshad]

For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.

I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.

Next?

Again with the Cheerleader reference. Please tell us, who are said cheerleaders?

Those who are , know who they are

That's what I thought...

Cheer up... I never said you were'nt one of them

[AlteredDNA]

For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.

I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.

Next?

Again with the Cheerleader reference. Please tell us, who are said cheerleaders?

Those who are , know who they are

That's what I thought...

Cheer up... I never said you were'nt one of them

No, in fact you said quite the opposite, to which I had asked you for the data you had compiled in reaching that conclusion. I guess you missed that post of mine...

[Andrew]

I just got back on the computer. I've been sleeping,etc. Plus, I was hoping by the time I got to work this morning, you would've reread what I originally typed and my first response to your comment and I would've seen an apology from you in PM or publicly. Sadly, I did not receive one.

An apology from me? No, I don't think so....

I'll answer PMs when time permits. I have rather a lot on this week if you keep track of news from the frontpage.

[Andrew]

I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.

I'm perfectly happy with all feedbck recieved and offered in this thread.
My only problem at all was Tito "suggesting" what should be happening with JSS threads - coming from the person that constantly bangs on about JSS.

A notion I dismissed... Other than that - all is good.

[Don]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

[Michigan Girl]

For someone that claims that this is Andrew's board and he can do what he wants, you sure speak for him a lot.

I dont speak for Andrew. I am just stating some facts in regards of HIS wishes. If youve been here for longer than a month, you should know what his wishes are. Simple.Butl given the fact that I get questioned by Tito's cheerleaders left and right, I see no choice to answer them one by one.

Next?

Again with the Cheerleader reference. Please tell us, who are said cheerleaders?

Those who are , know who they are

That's what I thought...

Cheer up... I never said you were'nt one of them

No, in fact you said quite the opposite, to which I had asked you for the data you had compiled in reaching that conclusion. I guess you missed that post of mine...

There is NO reasoning with him....
Secret's out, I was a cheerleader and I am currently a UCA/NCA coach, I've got you
under my spell.....NOW CHEER!!!! :twisted:

[Andrew]

I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.

Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.

Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.

I agree with this.

If Tito's words and sentiment were once again misunderstood for some strange reason ( ) then I can accept that. We will see where we go from here!

[Behshad]

No, in fact you said quite the opposite, to which I had asked you for the data you had compiled in reaching that conclusion. I guess you missed that post of mine...

No facts or data , but If you're involved in the group of people doing a Q&A with me, trying to defend poor Tito, chances are you will get lumped in the group as a cheerleader and for that I apologize.

Bottom line is, Tito made a suggestion that any and all JSS related topics belong to the JSS section of this forum. I didnt agree with him, he didnt like it, but neither of us makes the final decision on this.Neither do you

[Andrew]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

LOL

We are going nowhere, so let's move on...the points have been made.

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

[AlteredDNA]

No, in fact you said quite the opposite, to which I had asked you for the data you had compiled in reaching that conclusion. I guess you missed that post of mine...

No facts or data , but If you're involved in the group of people doing a Q&A with me, trying to defend poor Tito, chances are you will get lumped in the group as a cheerleader and for that I apologize.

Bottom line is, Tito made a suggestion that any and all JSS related topics belong to the JSS section of this forum. I didnt agree with him, he didnt like it, but neither of us makes the final decision on this.Neither do you

I'm not defending anyone, nor do I agree with the JSS suggestion, but it was made on a thread that was asking for suggestions, and before Andrew had a chance to even review it, you swooped in and pounced all over it.

Just sayin'...

[Michigan Girl]

I wondered why you were up so early!!!! GOOD LUCK TO YOU BOTH!!!!!

[Don]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

LOL

We are going nowhere, so let's move on...the points have been made.

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

Just remember your breathing excercises coach, and if they let you cut the chord, wear a bib if you're gonna use your teeth

[Rhiannon]

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

I know what'll put you in a better mood!! ...And it even induces labor!

And, PS... CONGRATTIES!! Give the bean a good name, now.

[Tito]

I just got back on the computer. I've been sleeping,etc. Plus, I was hoping by the time I got to work this morning, you would've reread what I originally typed and my first response to your comment and I would've seen an apology from you in PM or publicly. Sadly, I did not receive one.

An apology from me? No, I don't think so....

I'll answer PMs when time permits. I have rather a lot on this week if you keep track of news from the frontpage.

What the hell are you doing up at this hour?

[Tito]

I agree that Andrew's decision should be respected. But the double standard is laughable. If you want feedback, then be prepared to hear stuff that you may not like or agree with. And don't attack someone when they offer what you requested in a respectful manner. Right, wrong or indifferent.

Its not feedback when its build on sarcasm and hatred towards an ex member of the band. Explain to me what part of the POINT 2 he made was to improve this place......
Andrew is open to suggestions to IMPROVE this place. Not what TITO's Personal Prefrences are. There's the difference, no double standard.

Also, MG,,, I didnt think what Tito said in his original post here was an attack towards Jeff. I simply responded to him that if he thinks that JSS topics wont be discussed here, he's in for a surprise.

I agree with this.

If Tito's words and sentiment were once again misunderstood for some strange reason ( ) then I can accept that. We will see where we go from here!

I swear over a stack of holy bibles, I was not blasting Soto in that post. I was stating a suggestion.

To show I had no ill intent, I will add on to point 2. ....or close the Soto forum and have it all in the Journey forum. Why have two of the same.

Also, I do NOT bag Soto. I bag his fans if anything.

[SusieP]

And according to Tito's logic - SP only had a 5 year career, so he can't be a big part of Journey history either then?

I think his "5 year" remark referred to him being at the very top of his game. Tito certainly acknowledges that Perry's career was longer than 5 years, but he was specifically referring to him "being the greatest ever" for only 5 years...or wanting more than 5 years as one of the greats to be considered the greatest.

I think I'm getting the message.
We aren't allowed to discuss JSS in this Journey section because you and Tito don't want us to.
We aren't allowed to mention JSS [in his own section] in the same sentence as Steve Perry or Freddie Mercury's name lest you and Tito think we are saying Jeff's success/talent is on a par with them.

I don't care if you talk about Soto while you're picking out cucumbers in the grocery store. As far as talking about Soto in the same breath as Perry and/or Mercury, I usually feel the need to come in and ask for the criteria being used to lump him with legends. I do this after I'm done laughing hysterically, though.

I think we have also established that anyone who even expresses liking JSS even just a tiny bit is under fire from you and Tito.

Completely false. I sat by and had no problem with people sensibly growing fond of Soto pre-termination, but the over the top accolades post-break up have mandated I become the common sense police. I'd hate to have to arrest you, SusieP...though frisking you could be fun!!!

I would like to think I have "sensibly" grown fond of JSS. I don't think I have given him over the top accolades either - but I realise you are not directing that specifically at me. So your beer stash is safe tonight.
And I was thinking of starting a Tito appreciation thread, but had second thoughts. I don't have time. I have to shop for cucumbers and then practice with those cherry stems.

[Tito]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

LOL

We are going nowhere, so let's move on...the points have been made.

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

If it's a boy will you name it Tito?

[Behshad]

I swear over a stack of holy bibles, I was not blasting Soto in that post. I was stating a suggestion.

To show I had no ill intent, I will add on to point 2. ....or close the Soto forum and have it all in the Journey forum. Why have two of the same.

Also, I do NOT bag Soto. I bag his fans if anything.

Well, got some news for you Bagger Vance,,,,,, Andrew happens to be one of Soto's fans

[AlteredDNA]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

LOL

We are going nowhere, so let's move on...the points have been made.

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

Andrew - here's hoping that the delivery doesn't take any longer than the conception...

Seriously, best wishes and prayers that all turns out well...

[Tito]

And according to Tito's logic - SP only had a 5 year career, so he can't be a big part of Journey history either then?

I think his "5 year" remark referred to him being at the very top of his game. Tito certainly acknowledges that Perry's career was longer than 5 years, but he was specifically referring to him "being the greatest ever" for only 5 years...or wanting more than 5 years as one of the greats to be considered the greatest.

I think I'm getting the message.
We aren't allowed to discuss JSS in this Journey section because you and Tito don't want us to.
We aren't allowed to mention JSS [in his own section] in the same sentence as Steve Perry or Freddie Mercury's name lest you and Tito think we are saying Jeff's success/talent is on a par with them.

I don't care if you talk about Soto while you're picking out cucumbers in the grocery store. As far as talking about Soto in the same breath as Perry and/or Mercury, I usually feel the need to come in and ask for the criteria being used to lump him with legends. I do this after I'm done laughing hysterically, though.

I think we have also established that anyone who even expresses liking JSS even just a tiny bit is under fire from you and Tito.

Completely false. I sat by and had no problem with people sensibly growing fond of Soto pre-termination, but the over the top accolades post-break up have mandated I become the common sense police. I'd hate to have to arrest you, SusieP...though frisking you could be fun!!!

I would like to think I have "sensibly" grown fond of JSS. I don't think I have given him over the top accolades either - but I realise you are not directing that specifically at me. So your beer stash is safe tonight.
And I was thinking of starting a Tito appreciation thread, but had second thoughts. I don't have time. I have to shop for cucumbers and then practice with those cherry stems.

Saint John can't respond to you. He's on "vacation" for a week. I do see why Andrew was so sensitive now last night.

[Andrew]

I wondered why you were up so early!!!! GOOD LUCK TO YOU BOTH!!!!!

Well, I wouldn't be as there is no movement at the station yet, but I had to do a Rick Springfield interview at 5 and some Angelmilk business while everyone was online/at work.

Sucks being in this God forsaken tme zone!!!!!

[Andrew]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

LOL

We are going nowhere, so let's move on...the points have been made.

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

If it's a boy will you name it Tito?

Probably not. With all due respect

[SusieP]

Can we have a Tito forum Andrew, than all the Tito cheerleaders (I can probably include myself in this based on the criteria to qualify) can have a place to enjoy the appreciation threads or what ever else is he creates that is off topic for this forum. It's just a suggestion but 8 pages of beshad/tito, beshad/tito, beshad/tito is just going nowhere here.

LOL

We are going nowhere, so let's move on...the points have been made.

It's 5am and my wife is due to give birth any freeking hour now, so let's make this a stress free day...ok?

Hope all goes well.

[Rhiannon]

Sucks being in this God forsaken tme zone!!!!!

Pack up the beans and move to the US.

[Andrew]

I swear over a stack of holy bibles, I was not blasting Soto in that post. I was stating a suggestion.

To show I had no ill intent, I will add on to point 2. ....or close the Soto forum and have it all in the Journey forum. Why have two of the same.

Also, I do NOT bag Soto. I bag his fans if anything.

Ok, I will accept this, thank you. Please don't bag the fans though.