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Postby S2M » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:39 am

Long story, short.....

Had an IDE burner, bought a SATA burner....installed it. Computer won't recognize it. Question: Must I change a setting in BIOS or something?

Not to keen on messing with the BIOS, just like not touching any redgistry values....but I wonder why the system won't recognize it?

Remember, I need someone who ABSOLUTELY knows how to walk me through this....

Thanks, in advance.... :lol:
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Postby Don » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:43 am

Just hit the delete key when you boot up, go into advanced settings and see if sata is enabled, then let us know what happens after you have enabled if it's necessary.
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Postby S2M » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:44 am

Gunbot wrote:Just hit the delete key when you boot up, go into advanced settings and see if sata is enabled, then let us know what happens after you have enabled if it's necessary.


Will that still work if my hard drive ISN'T sata? Only my burner is.....
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:47 am

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Gunbot wrote:Just hit the delete key when you boot up, go into advanced settings and see if sata is enabled, then let us know what happens after you have enabled if it's necessary.


Will that still work if my hard drive ISN'T sata? Only my burner is.....


Yes, those two things are completely independent of the other.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:59 am

Actually...I have a similar issue.
I replaced on old DVD-R with a new SATA DVD-R and now the audio on the PC is distorted....unplug it and back to normal.

Anyone seen that before or know of a way to better hook up this sucker?
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Postby xflajrnylvr » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:02 am

what OS are you using stock & andrew
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Re: Pc stuff

Postby xflajrnylvr » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:02 am

xflajrnylvr wrote:what OS are you using stock & andrew


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Re: Pc stuff

Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:06 am

xflajrnylvr wrote:what OS are you using stock & andrew


XP...

Just replacing one old drive with a new drive, but obviously this drive is SATA powered. Hate computers...they all suck.
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:07 am

Andrew wrote:Actually...I have a similar issue.
I replaced on old DVD-R with a new SATA DVD-R and now the audio on the PC is distorted....unplug it and back to normal.

Anyone seen that before or know of a way to better hook up this sucker?


Several things pop into my brain when I read this.

1) Could need a BIOS firmware update.

2) Could need to update the audio drivers.

3) Could possibly be an over-taxed power supply.

What's the make and model of your computer?
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Postby S2M » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:07 am

I just tried to rip the DVD again, and THIS time it recognized the burner....I had to do nothing after all....jeesh!

Thanks for all who responded....I'm just computer ignient!

Which reminds me....'What are you, IGNIENT!?' :wink: :lol:
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Postby xflajrnylvr » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:08 am

Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?
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Postby Don » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:10 am

If this is the first sata device on your computers install or reinstall the sata drivers for the motherboard, not just the dvd or hard drive drivers. If possible, go to the website for your motherboard and download the newest sata drivers from there instead of the disc that came with your computer, and make sure sata is enabled in your bios. Just hit the delete key during bootup and check advanced settings.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:12 am

xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??
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Postby Don » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:29 am

I can only think to check properties on your sata DVD and make sure they're set to digital audio. I can't see the power supply making it choppy but maybe so. I only use a 350 watt pwr supply for two dvd, two hdd and a PCI expresscard, and don't have any problems. On board audio takes more processor power than a stand alone card i think. What are you using for sound?
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Postby Rip Rokken » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:56 am

Andrew wrote:Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??


Yes, might want to move out of Australia -- I hear the taxes there are out of control!

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Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:57 am

Gunbot wrote:I can only think to check properties on your sata DVD and make sure they're set to digital audio. I can't see the power supply making it choppy but maybe so. I only use a 350 watt pwr supply for two dvd, two hdd and a PCI expresscard, and don't have any problems. On board audio takes more processor power than a stand alone card i think. What are you using for sound?


Don't recall, but I haven't even tested the DVD for audio yet....even when windows boots up that little jingle is wacked out.
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Postby T-Bone » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:57 am

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xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??



Find out what wattage your power supply is and go get a bigger one. Stick to name brands such as OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, etc...

A good one to look into would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139001


And Newegg doesn't ship to Aussieberg, so you'll have to find the same one on evilbay or somewhere
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Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:03 am

I DON'T WANT TO FARK AROUND WITH POWER SUPPLIES - I JUST WANT MY PC TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:03 am

T-Bone wrote:
Andrew wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??



Find out what wattage your power supply is and go get a bigger one. Stick to name brands such as OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, etc...

A good one to look into would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139001


And Newegg doesn't ship to Aussieberg, so you'll have to find the same one on evilbay or somewhere


It may just be a RAM issue also.

Andrew if you have a lot of icons next to the clock down in the bottom right of the screen, you could just have more stuff running than your RAM can handle. Try shutting down some of those programs by right clicking on them and either clicking exit or going into those programs settings and selecting not to have those start when Windows does.

Don't do that to essential programs, such as antivirus.
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Postby Don » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:11 am

Rick wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
Andrew wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??



Find out what wattage your power supply is and go get a bigger one. Stick to name brands such as OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, etc...

A good one to look into would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139001


And Newegg doesn't ship to Aussieberg, so you'll have to find the same one on evilbay or somewhere


It may just be a RAM issue also.

Andrew if you have a lot of icons next to the clock down in the bottom right of the screen, you could just have more stuff running than your RAM can handle. Try shutting down some of those programs by right clicking on them and either clicking exit or going into those programs settings and selecting not to have those start when Windows does.

Don't do that to essential programs, such as antivirus.


Go to your run box, type msconfig, hit enter, go to the startup tab and see whats running. if you don't recognise the program or it doesn't show a familiar command path, uncheck it. Nero, Realplayer and all that other junk like to run on startup even though they don't need to.
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:39 am

Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
Andrew wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??



Find out what wattage your power supply is and go get a bigger one. Stick to name brands such as OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, etc...

A good one to look into would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139001


And Newegg doesn't ship to Aussieberg, so you'll have to find the same one on evilbay or somewhere


It may just be a RAM issue also.

Andrew if you have a lot of icons next to the clock down in the bottom right of the screen, you could just have more stuff running than your RAM can handle. Try shutting down some of those programs by right clicking on them and either clicking exit or going into those programs settings and selecting not to have those start when Windows does.

Don't do that to essential programs, such as antivirus.


Go to your run box, type msconfig, hit enter, go to the startup tab and see whats running. if you don't recognise the program or it doesn't show a familiar command path, uncheck it. Nero, Realplayer and all that other junk like to run on startup even though they don't need to.


I disagree. Doing any unchecking in MSCONFIG puts your computer into diagnostic mode, which is only a trouble shooting mode and should never be used to simply shut down unnecessarily running processes.

The best way to do that is by going into those programs and setting them not to run when Windows starts by default.

Also, click Start, then go to All Programs and position your mouse over the Startup folder and see what's in there and delete anything that's unnecessary by right clicking on the specific item and then click delete.

After that you edit the Run folders in the registry.

To do that, click Start, then click Run. Type in regedit and click OK. In the registry editor, click the + signs by HKEY_CURRENT_USER

scroll down to: Software and click the +

scroll down to: Microsoft and click the +

scroll down to : Windows and click the +

scroll down to : Current Version and click the +

And then click on the Run folder.

Very carefully scrutinize the programs that are listed. If you see any that are not needed when Windows starts, right click on them and select Delete.

Scroll all the way back to the top of Regedit and click the - minus sign by HKEY_CURRENT_USER. It will bring it back to the way it looked when you started.

Now, repeat the same exact process with the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE key. Expect longer scroll downs here.

Be very careful not to delete anything that may be necessary, and do not try to edit anything other than those two 'Run' folders.
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Postby T-Bone » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:47 am

Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
Andrew wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??



Find out what wattage your power supply is and go get a bigger one. Stick to name brands such as OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, etc...

A good one to look into would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139001


And Newegg doesn't ship to Aussieberg, so you'll have to find the same one on evilbay or somewhere


It may just be a RAM issue also.

Andrew if you have a lot of icons next to the clock down in the bottom right of the screen, you could just have more stuff running than your RAM can handle. Try shutting down some of those programs by right clicking on them and either clicking exit or going into those programs settings and selecting not to have those start when Windows does.

Don't do that to essential programs, such as antivirus.


Go to your run box, type msconfig, hit enter, go to the startup tab and see whats running. if you don't recognise the program or it doesn't show a familiar command path, uncheck it. Nero, Realplayer and all that other junk like to run on startup even though they don't need to.


I disagree. Doing any unchecking in MSCONFIG puts your computer into diagnostic mode, which is only a trouble shooting mode and should never be used to simply shut down unnecessarily running processes.

The best way to do that is by going into those programs and setting them not to run when Windows starts by default.

Also, click Start, then go to All Programs and position your mouse over the Startup folder and see what's in there and delete anything that's unnecessary by right clicking on the specific item and then click delete.

After that you edit the Run folders in the registry.

To do that, click Start, then click Run. Type in regedit and click OK. In the registry editor, click the + signs by HKEY_CURRENT_USER

scroll down to: Software and click the +

scroll down to: Microsoft and click the +

scroll down to : Windows and click the +

scroll down to : Current Version and click the +

And then click on the Run folder.

Very carefully scrutinize the programs that are listed. If you see any that are not needed when Windows starts, right click on them and select Delete.

Scroll all the way back to the top of Regedit and click the - minus sign by HKEY_CURRENT_USER. It will bring it back to the way it looked when you started.

Now, repeat the same exact process with the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE key. Expect longer scroll downs here.

Be very careful not to delete anything that may be necessary, and do not try to edit anything other than those two 'Run' folders.



WRONG.... I've had my PC's running on Selective for 8 years now, ever since Windows ME. It was the best way to keep crap from starting up unless I start them specifically.


Go into MSCONFIG and switch to SELECTIVE Startup and then go to the Startup tab and disable everything except for your antivirus and if you have a Lexmark PC, leave that alone as well. To be able to see what stuff is better, move the divider between the Command and Location to the right so you can see more of the Command line. It's easy to do. make sure you don't go into the Services section, just the Startup

And Yes... it may also be a Memory issue. Load that bastard up. If you're running XP, you'll only be able to see up to 3.5gb. If it's a newer PC and the Ram slots are colored, try to keep an even number of matched sticks in there so you stay in Dual Channel mode. 2-3gb will do you fine. Memory is cheap these days
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Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:50 am

I have a 450W power supply, so I just unplugged everything...and plugged it all back in a different way....and it seems t be working. WTF?

Ok, well at least my PC won't get a good thrashing today.
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:52 am

T-Bone wrote:
Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
T-Bone wrote:
Andrew wrote:
xflajrnylvr wrote:Andrew did you enable sata in your bios?


Yeah, my HDs are mostly SATA. A bud of mine suggested over taxed pwer supply....but is there any way around that??



Find out what wattage your power supply is and go get a bigger one. Stick to name brands such as OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, etc...

A good one to look into would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139001


And Newegg doesn't ship to Aussieberg, so you'll have to find the same one on evilbay or somewhere


It may just be a RAM issue also.

Andrew if you have a lot of icons next to the clock down in the bottom right of the screen, you could just have more stuff running than your RAM can handle. Try shutting down some of those programs by right clicking on them and either clicking exit or going into those programs settings and selecting not to have those start when Windows does.

Don't do that to essential programs, such as antivirus.


Go to your run box, type msconfig, hit enter, go to the startup tab and see whats running. if you don't recognise the program or it doesn't show a familiar command path, uncheck it. Nero, Realplayer and all that other junk like to run on startup even though they don't need to.


I disagree. Doing any unchecking in MSCONFIG puts your computer into diagnostic mode, which is only a trouble shooting mode and should never be used to simply shut down unnecessarily running processes.

The best way to do that is by going into those programs and setting them not to run when Windows starts by default.

Also, click Start, then go to All Programs and position your mouse over the Startup folder and see what's in there and delete anything that's unnecessary by right clicking on the specific item and then click delete.

After that you edit the Run folders in the registry.

To do that, click Start, then click Run. Type in regedit and click OK. In the registry editor, click the + signs by HKEY_CURRENT_USER

scroll down to: Software and click the +

scroll down to: Microsoft and click the +

scroll down to : Windows and click the +

scroll down to : Current Version and click the +

And then click on the Run folder.

Very carefully scrutinize the programs that are listed. If you see any that are not needed when Windows starts, right click on them and select Delete.

Scroll all the way back to the top of Regedit and click the - minus sign by HKEY_CURRENT_USER. It will bring it back to the way it looked when you started.

Now, repeat the same exact process with the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE key. Expect longer scroll downs here.

Be very careful not to delete anything that may be necessary, and do not try to edit anything other than those two 'Run' folders.



WRONG.... I've had my PC's running on Selective for 8 years now, ever since Windows ME. It was the best way to keep crap from starting up unless I start them specifically.


Go into MSCONFIG and switch to SELECTIVE Startup and then go to the Startup tab and disable everything except for your antivirus and if you have a Lexmark PC, leave that alone as well. To be able to see what stuff is better, move the divider between the Command and Location to the right so you can see more of the Command line. It's easy to do. make sure you don't go into the Services section, just the Startup


It's definitely the easier way, but Selective Mode is a troubleshooting mode. It's not supposed to be used for the normal operation of the computer. It does work, but your computer is not operating optimally in that mode.
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Postby Don » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:57 am

450 is good size power supply unless you need to power some monster pci-express card. Sounds like you had gremlins If you reconnected and it's okay now.
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Postby Rick » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:27 pm

Gunbot wrote:450 is good size power supply unless you need to power some monster pci-express card. Sounds like you had gremlins If you reconnected and it's okay now.


I think he's been looking at porn. :twisted:

Andrew, and I know you don't have much, but in your spare time, go to www.download.com and download a program called Spybot Search and Destroy. Install it and when it offers the option, update it, and let it run. Delete everything it finds.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:13 pm

Rick wrote:
Andrew wrote:Actually...I have a similar issue.
I replaced on old DVD-R with a new SATA DVD-R and now the audio on the PC is distorted....unplug it and back to normal.

Anyone seen that before or know of a way to better hook up this sucker?


Several things pop into my brain when I read this.

1) Could need a BIOS firmware update.

2) Could need to update the audio drivers.

3) Could possibly be an over-taxed power supply.

What's the make and model of your computer?


I was going to recommend the above points but Rick beat me to it. 8)
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:17 pm

Rick wrote:I disagree. Doing any unchecking in MSCONFIG puts your computer into diagnostic mode, which is only a trouble shooting mode and should never be used to simply shut down unnecessarily running processes.

The best way to do that is by going into those programs and setting them not to run when Windows starts by default.


Nah...msconfig is a great utility and it doesn't put your computer into diagnostic mode if you do a selective startup. In the end, doing a selective startup and unchecking those items on the startup tab is basically the same as manually editing the registry. It's also safer than configuring the program because if you decide you want a certain few of those items to start upon Windows login, it's as easy as going back into msconfig and re-enabling them. Diagnostic mode is only enabled if you actually choose it on the msconfig General tab.

It's definitely the easier way, but Selective Mode is a troubleshooting mode. It's not supposed to be used for the normal operation of the computer. It does work, but your computer is not operating optimally in that mode.


Actually, it can operate much better if you disable the right things. I always use it in conjunction with turning off unnecessary Windows services.
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Postby wednesday's child » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:29 pm

Rick wrote:
Gunbot wrote:450 is good size power supply unless you need to power some monster pci-express card. Sounds like you had gremlins If you reconnected and it's okay now.


I think he's been looking at porn. :twisted:

Andrew, and I know you don't have much, but in your spare time, go to www.download.com and download a program called Spybot Search and Destroy. Install it and when it offers the option, update it, and let it run. Delete everything it finds.


Spybot S&D frickin' rules.
Just remember to update the malware detection rules weekly.
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Postby T-Bone » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:57 pm

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Rick wrote:I disagree. Doing any unchecking in MSCONFIG puts your computer into diagnostic mode, which is only a trouble shooting mode and should never be used to simply shut down unnecessarily running processes.

The best way to do that is by going into those programs and setting them not to run when Windows starts by default.


Nah...msconfig is a great utility and it doesn't put your computer into diagnostic mode if you do a selective startup. In the end, doing a selective startup and unchecking those items on the startup tab is basically the same as manually editing the registry. It's also safer than configuring the program because if you decide you want a certain few of those items to start upon Windows login, it's as easy as going back into msconfig and re-enabling them. Diagnostic mode is only enabled if you actually choose it on the msconfig General tab.

It's definitely the easier way, but Selective Mode is a troubleshooting mode. It's not supposed to be used for the normal operation of the computer. It does work, but your computer is not operating optimally in that mode.


Actually, it can operate much better if you disable the right things. I always use it in conjunction with turning off unnecessary Windows services.


I get excellent benchmarks and speed tests as it sits right now. I'm pretty sure I'm not hurting with a Core 2 Quad overclocked to 3.2ghz and running 4gb of PC2 8500 OCZ Reaper memory... :wink:

The PC starts up faster as well. There's absolutely no need for crap to be running unless I start it myself :wink: Adobe? GrooveMonitor? Nero? MusicMatch Jukebox? Messengers? WHY?!?!?
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