Faithfully (FTLOSM Tour) Beacon, NYC

[bluejeangirl76]

The reason why there will never be another Steve Perry is that very personal wellspring of pain, love, desire, and freedom that he tapped into and shared with each of us every time he held a microphone. If and when he ever finds the courage to do it again, that spring will still be there, I promise you.

You make me weee-EEE-eeep, Jeremey. Well said.

[DracIsBack]

[quote="brywool']
Again, whether he can sing better than any of us is not relevant. I AM a singer. There are many singers here. Of the league that Perry is/was? No. That has nothing to do with anything. I don't think anybody has said Perry can't sing anymore.[/quote]

Do a little search in the search forum putting this exact phrase in: "Perry can't sing anymore". See how many hits pop up. Poor choice or words perhaps, but it does often get said. I've seen it here, I've seen it in other forums and I've seen it on youtube forums. It's always bugged me because it's excessive to me.

But just to say "well, you can't sing as good as him, so therefor you're wrong that he can't sing" is ridiculous.

Except that isn't what I said or meant. Perhaps I should have been clearer:

There are absolutely some people that have said, "Perry can't sing anymore". (do the search above). To me, that's a silly exageration. I agree with you that he probably can't sing most Journey songs in their original key -- based upon what I've heard -- but it's not an "all or nothing" thing where he's dropped from a vocal god to Cameron Diaz in MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING. There are still some pretty damn high notes being hit in that FAITHFULLY video at the beginning. Higher than I could do, for sure.

But more importantly, there's a lot of assessment of his capabilities today based on surprisingly little evidence. People could very well be right, but there's really not a lot out there of him singing (for better or worse) yet there's a lot of assumptions about what notes he can or can't hit now which has caused a lot of arguments in the forum. Why make conclusions about what he can or cannot do?

As for the comparison, it has nothing to do with liking Perry (I'm actually rather indifferent as I'm also into Arnel and Augeri) as much as disliking the "armchair quarterback" syndrome that prevails in these forums. At the end of the day, regardless of what has happened to his voice (or not), Perry can probably out-sing just about every last person here who has been criticizing his "diminished range", "wrecked vocal chords", "inability to sing" etc.

[brywool]

Man, I hope I'm able to sing that well in 8 years.

I've never "gotten" the obsession some people have with Perry's technical (ie range, etc) abilities, versus the simple use of his instrument. No matter what his range and gymnastics are or have been, he is simply one of the best ever at delivering a song. Unfortunately Perry set a pretty high bar for himself in his formative years, and there will always be those that expect him to replicate that period of his career. I think that's a pretty heavy weight that hangs on his shoulders. When he says things like "my voice sometimes sounds like..me..." in interviews, that says a lot to me about what he struggles with. It boggles my mind that debate will always continue among some about Perry's voice. The condition of his biological abilities is really a moot point. The reason why there will never be another Steve Perry is that very personal wellspring of pain, love, desire, and freedom that he tapped into and shared with each of us every time he held a microphone. If and when he ever finds the courage to do it again, that spring will still be there, I promise you.

It's interesting to me simply because vocal production and the vocal instrument are of great interest to me. The fact that there are some that can sing forever without any kind of damage and then there are those that damage themselves quite easily is interesting to someone pursuing singing as a passion or a career. It surprises me that you're not that interested in it Jeremey considering the gift that you have. I would think rather than "Hoping" you can sing that well after 8 years, you'd be going "Hmm, what can I do to avoid the same pitfalls and have my voice as it is for the rest of my life?" It boggles my mind that this topic isn't that interesting to you. You say tomatoe, I say tomahtoe. I've always wanted to be as good a singer as I can be but have struggled with certain aspects of my voice along the way. I've taken a ton of vocal lessons and done a lot of 'independent study' to try and negate some of the pitfalls of singing professionally. Right now, I'm pretty much a weekend warrior, but I make great money doing it and have for the last 25 years or so and would like to make more doing that as opposed to other things in my life where I make money, but have lost the passion for it. I don't profess to be a great singer. I'm certainly don't have the range that you do, but I do have a good range. I would like to unlock more range, more stamina, and just... MORE of my voice.

Perry's struggle, because he is THE best rock singer to ever do it, is incredibly interesting to me. There are a lot of 'whys' there that I'd like to know the answer to. There are a lot of 'hows' as well.

By the way, have you noticed any change in your voice since your operation? Did it help you? Hell, I'd pick your brain for hours on your technique as well Jeremey. Lookit all the young guitarist that sat an listened for HOURS to anything Van Halen (or Jimi, or Yngwie, or Angus, etc.) did to try and emulate their style and cop their licks. For me, it's no different. I'm a student of voice but I have a real passion for learning it.

[bluejeangirl76]

You say tomatoe, I say tomahtoe.

And I say tommy-toe. Let's call the whole thread off and we'll all go get a beer.

[brywool]

The problem with Perry is that it's not just the high notes. His vocal cords are just cracked and shredded period. Doesn't matter if it's low high mid or whatever. Now go listen to Trial by Liar and you can hear it all over the place.

Couldn't agree less. His lower range on TBF was every bit as good as on Frontiers. Up high was where the change was.

And as many have said on this board, I prefer his voice from Frontiers on.

But for those who say by Raised on Radio his voice was going, listen to Open Arms here on the Raised on Radio Tour. He had/has the ability to sing in the clearer upper register or in the later, bigger raspier tone that he chose to use from Frontiers on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6qriqS ... re=related

And here is Open Arms on the FTLOSM tour: Lowered a full step, but still sounding great. Pitch is outstanding and all the signature stuff is there. Who the hell cares that it's not in the exact same key?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYHawQ40 ... re=related

If he can still sing this good, anything he puts out will be huge. Although, word is he may be singing even better.

I can't imagine what would be sweeter than for him to put some stuff out, voice sounding great, have success and have all of the doomsday/naysayers have to shut the hell up and eat crow. Although I'm sure they would find some excuse as to why it was happening.

Now go listen to Jailhouse Rock from the ROR tour. It ain't pretty. The guy cracks all the way through it. Listen to the whole ROR Philly show. Listen to the Bill Graham deal.
I'd LOVE to hear him come back with his amazing voice intact, are you kidding me? It's be awesome. The guy is a vocal GOD. Singers don't HAVE to lose range as they get older. If they take care of themselves, they won't.

[Don]

Would you guys prefer he puts something out that he might not be able to replicate live, or would you would you want a raw album that sounds exactly like what you would hear if he performed on a tour?

not sure who you're asking gb (by the way, who's in your av?)-
I would prefer that the guy recorded an album and did ONE concert that he dvd'd and let that do the touring for him. For him to tour and do a bunch of shows is unnecessary unless he wanted to do it AND spaced the shows out. Dang, do one show a week and do a small tour of the bigger cities. Same with Zepplin. They should've video'd their reunion gig and put it out and THAT would satisfy (somewhat) those that wanted to see them live.

What I meant was would you like an album like TBF, which sounds great, but when performed live may have to be altered ( stepped down on some tunes ) OR would you want an album from him with no enhancements, just in his normal range that he has now, even if there are no longer the soaring highs and adlib falsettos and such. The type of album that he could do live shows with, without stepping down on anything. It might not be as dynamic as his older stuff but it would be the real him.

[brywool]

Again, whether he can sing better than any of us is not relevant. I AM a singer. There are many singers here. Of the league that Perry is/was? No. That has nothing to do with anything. I don't think anybody has said Perry can't sing anymore.

Do a little search in the search forum putting this exact phrase in: "Perry can't sing anymore". See how many hits pop up. Poor choice or words perhaps, but it does often get said. I've seen it here, I've seen it in other forums and I've seen it on youtube forums. It's always bugged me because it's excessive to me.

But just to say "well, you can't sing as good as him, so therefor you're wrong that he can't sing" is ridiculous.

Except that isn't what I said or meant. Perhaps I should have been clearer:

There are absolutely some people that have said, "Perry can't sing anymore". (do the search above). To me, that's a silly exageration. I agree with you that he probably can't sing most Journey songs in their original key -- based upon what I've heard -- but it's not an "all or nothing" thing where he's dropped from a vocal god to Cameron Diaz in MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING. There are still some pretty damn high notes being hit in that FAITHFULLY video at the beginning. Higher than I could do, for sure.

But more importantly, there's a lot of assessment of his capabilities today based on surprisingly little evidence. People could very well be right, but there's really not a lot out there of him singing (for better or worse) yet there's a lot of assumptions about what notes he can or can't hit now which has caused a lot of arguments in the forum. Why make conclusions about what he can or cannot do?

As for the comparison, it has nothing to do with liking Perry (I'm actually rather indifferent as I'm also into Arnel and Augeri) as much as disliking the "armchair quarterback" syndrome that prevails in these forums. At the end of the day, regardless of what has happened to his voice (or not), Perry can probably out-sing just about every last person here who has been criticizing his "diminished range", "wrecked vocal chords", "inability to sing" etc.

yah had me up until yer last sentence. The vocal obsession is mine. I have no problem with it. There are a few people here that like to talk about such stuff. If it's not your bag, cool. I don't think I said he can't sing. I think that I'm saying a lot of what you are, but I want to know the why's because it interests me. As for making conclusions with little evidence, it's certainly not my fault that the latest evidence of his throat problems is years and years old. I'm going by what I've heard, what I've read, and what I've observed in his interviews. The guy HAS vocal damage. I think the problem is when people (mostly singers or interested people) talk about this, and then others who just like him cuz he's cute or whatever, jump in and start getting all defensive about it like we're sacrificing their idol. Crap, the guy's one of my idols too, that's why I'm SO interested in it.

Peace yo!

[bluejeangirl76]

Now go listen to Jailhouse Rock from the ROR tour. It ain't pretty. The guy cracks all the way through it. Listen to the whole ROR Philly show.

Listen to Long Beach. Its a lot more entertaining.

[Jeremey]

It's interesting to me simply because vocal production and the vocal instrument are of great interest to me. The fact that there are some that can sing forever without any kind of damage and then there are those that damage themselves quite easily is interesting to someone pursuing singing as a passion or a career. It surprises me that you're not that interested in it Jeremey considering the gift that you have. I would think rather than "Hoping" you can sing that well after 8 years, you'd be going "Hmm, what can I do to avoid the same pitfalls and have my voice as it is for the rest of my life?" It boggles my mind that this topic isn't that interesting to you. You say tomatoe, I say tomahtoe. I've always wanted to be as good a singer as I can be but have struggled with certain aspects of my voice along the way. I've taken a ton of vocal lessons and done a lot of 'independent study' to try and negate some of the pitfalls of singing professionally. Right now, I'm pretty much a weekend warrior, but I make great money doing it and have for the last 25 years or so and would like to make more doing that as opposed to other things in my life where I make money, but have lost the passion for it. I don't profess to be a great singer. I'm certainly don't have the range that you do, but I do have a good range. I would like to unlock more range, more stamina, and just... MORE of my voice.

Perry's struggle, because he is THE best rock singer to ever do it, is incredibly interesting to me. There are a lot of 'whys' there that I'd like to know the answer to. There are a lot of 'hows' as well.

By the way, have you noticed any change in your voice since your operation? Did it help you? Hell, I'd pick your brain for hours on your technique as well Jeremey. Lookit all the young guitarist that sat an listened for HOURS to anything Van Halen (or Jimi, or Yngwie, or Angus, etc.) did to try and emulate their style and cop their licks. For me, it's no different. I'm a student of voice but I have a real passion for learning it.

It may sound simplistic, but really, I don't think or worry too much about what happened to Steve Perry's range because I'm not Steve Perry, and there's really very little I can take away from trying to figure out what happened to his voice that is going to affect or change the way I take care of my voice. My technique is very basic...sing correctly (ie using diaphragm and breathing rather than throat and jaw), sing what I am physically able to sing, and then all the normal things singers worry about...Hydration, diet, warming up (which I should do more of) and rest. I don't really worry about losing my voice because I'm not currently in a position where abuse or overuse would do damage. I can manage 2 and a half hours a night, three nights in a row with good in ear monitoring and in between rest, so I try not to overdo it otherwise...I meet with some of the best voice doctors in the world at the Duke Voice Center about 2-3 times a year, get scoped & strobed, and try to control my allergies. So far there's been no physical change to my voice or vocal cords in the past 3 years I've been doing this. I have a blood vessel on my left vocal fold that could wreck havoc if it ever decided to blow, but other than that, it seems my technique is serving my body well. My sinus surgery did wonders for my breathing, and though you wouldn't tell a very noticeable difference other than a bit of power here and there, the place I think it makes a difference in is stamina and not having to exert as much effort during the physical act of singing.

I think range is a bit overrated. Just like the old saying, it's not the size it's what you do with it....I feel the same about range. Stamina and endurance are purely physical qualities that exercise and diet should control...But delivery and passion separate the good from the truly great singers. Hopefully I don't sound like a pompous ass, but I did want to answer your questions!

[brywool]

Would you guys prefer he puts something out that he might not be able to replicate live, or would you would you want a raw album that sounds exactly like what you would hear if he performed on a tour?

not sure who you're asking gb (by the way, who's in your av?)-
I would prefer that the guy recorded an album and did ONE concert that he dvd'd and let that do the touring for him. For him to tour and do a bunch of shows is unnecessary unless he wanted to do it AND spaced the shows out. Dang, do one show a week and do a small tour of the bigger cities. Same with Zepplin. They should've video'd their reunion gig and put it out and THAT would satisfy (somewhat) those that wanted to see them live.

What I meant was would you like an album like TBF, which sounds great, but when performed live may have to be altered ( stepped down on some tunes ) OR would you want an album from him with no enhancements, just in his normal range that he has now, even if there are no longer the soaring highs and adlib falsettos and such. The type of album that he could do live shows with, without stepping down on anything. It might not be as dynamic as his older stuff but it would be the real him.

That's another topic- I didn't think he sounded good on TBF, but was just glad to hear him, though disappointed by the state of his voice. The guy's still got tons of passion, etc.
I'd rather that his voice was back in shape. BUT, I'd take a studio album that he tweaked. That doesn't bug me. Many artists tweak their recordings- However as soon as he starts using that phony autotune, I'm turning it off.

But either case you site above would be cool. I'd like to hear ANYTHING new from him, but I doubt that it'll happen. Even in a lowered vocal range, he'd still out sing a lot of singers and he'd still emote more than most rock singers. He'd still be good, he just wouldn't be AS good.

[brywool]

It's interesting to me simply because vocal production and the vocal instrument are of great interest to me. The fact that there are some that can sing forever without any kind of damage and then there are those that damage themselves quite easily is interesting to someone pursuing singing as a passion or a career. It surprises me that you're not that interested in it Jeremey considering the gift that you have. I would think rather than "Hoping" you can sing that well after 8 years, you'd be going "Hmm, what can I do to avoid the same pitfalls and have my voice as it is for the rest of my life?" It boggles my mind that this topic isn't that interesting to you. You say tomatoe, I say tomahtoe. I've always wanted to be as good a singer as I can be but have struggled with certain aspects of my voice along the way. I've taken a ton of vocal lessons and done a lot of 'independent study' to try and negate some of the pitfalls of singing professionally. Right now, I'm pretty much a weekend warrior, but I make great money doing it and have for the last 25 years or so and would like to make more doing that as opposed to other things in my life where I make money, but have lost the passion for it. I don't profess to be a great singer. I'm certainly don't have the range that you do, but I do have a good range. I would like to unlock more range, more stamina, and just... MORE of my voice.

Perry's struggle, because he is THE best rock singer to ever do it, is incredibly interesting to me. There are a lot of 'whys' there that I'd like to know the answer to. There are a lot of 'hows' as well.

By the way, have you noticed any change in your voice since your operation? Did it help you? Hell, I'd pick your brain for hours on your technique as well Jeremey. Lookit all the young guitarist that sat an listened for HOURS to anything Van Halen (or Jimi, or Yngwie, or Angus, etc.) did to try and emulate their style and cop their licks. For me, it's no different. I'm a student of voice but I have a real passion for learning it.

It may sound simplistic, but really, I don't think or worry too much about what happened to Steve Perry's range because I'm not Steve Perry, and there's really very little I can take away from trying to figure out what happened to his voice that is going to affect or change the way I take care of my voice. My technique is very basic...sing correctly (ie using diaphragm and breathing rather than throat and jaw), sing what I am physically able to sing, and then all the normal things singers worry about...Hydration, diet, warming up (which I should do more of) and rest. I don't really worry about losing my voice because I'm not currently in a position where abuse or overuse would do damage. I can manage 2 and a half hours a night, three nights in a row with good in ear monitoring and in between rest, so I try not to overdo it otherwise...I meet with some of the best voice doctors in the world at the Duke Voice Center about 2-3 times a year, get scoped & strobed, and try to control my allergies. So far there's been no physical change to my voice or vocal cords in the past 3 years I've been doing this. I have a blood vessel on my left vocal fold that could wreck havoc if it ever decided to blow, but other than that, it seems my technique is serving my body well. My sinus surgery did wonders for my breathing, and though you wouldn't tell a very noticeable difference other than a bit of power here and there, the place I think it makes a difference in is stamina and not having to exert as much effort during the physical act of singing.

I think range is a bit overrated. Just like the old saying, it's not the size it's what you do with it....I feel the same about range. Stamina and endurance are purely physical qualities that exercise and diet should control...But delivery and passion separate the good from the truly great singers. Hopefully I don't sound like a pompous ass, but I did want to answer your questions!

awesome reply Jeremey. I agree with you on a lot of it. I still think range is a big deal but it's because of the stuff I do or WANT to do. I'll be getting strobed in a few weeks, so we'll see if that can answer some of my questions. As far as exercises for stamina are you talking vocal or just in general? Feel free to pm, I'm interested and it'll save these guys from getting even more annoyed with me.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread folks... I have to remember to stay out of these threads.

[Deb]

I think range is a bit overrated. Just like the old saying, it's not the size it's what you do with it....I feel the same about range. Stamina and endurance are purely physical qualities that exercise and diet should control...But delivery and passion separate the good from the truly great singers.

Couldn't agree more, especially that last part!

Somebody can be the best technical singer on the planet but unless they can deliver with soul (ballad) or passion (rocker), then they ain't making it to my top 3!

95% - delivery, tone, vibrato, etc.

5% - range.

[bluejeangirl76]

95% - delivery, tone, vibrato, etc.

5% - range.

You forgot the hair.

5% range
75% tone & delivery
20% sexy hair

[Rhiannon]

95% - delivery, tone, vibrato, etc.

5% - range.

You forgot the hair.

5% range
75% tone & delivery
20% sexy hair

Both wrong.

He's:

5% Range
5% Tone & Delivery
10% Hair
15% Nougat
20% Nose
45% Kitten Puncher

[Deb]

awesome reply Jeremey. I agree with you on a lot of it. I still think range is a big deal but it's because of the stuff I do or WANT to do.

If you'd quit wearing granny dresses, maybe the range wouldn't matter so much.

[Ehwmatt]

Would you guys prefer he puts something out that he might not be able to replicate live, or would you would you want a raw album that sounds exactly like what you would hear if he performed on a tour?

not sure who you're asking gb (by the way, who's in your av?)-
I would prefer that the guy recorded an album and did ONE concert that he dvd'd and let that do the touring for him. For him to tour and do a bunch of shows is unnecessary unless he wanted to do it AND spaced the shows out. Dang, do one show a week and do a small tour of the bigger cities. Same with Zepplin. They should've video'd their reunion gig and put it out and THAT would satisfy (somewhat) those that wanted to see them live.

What I meant was would you like an album like TBF, which sounds great, but when performed live may have to be altered ( stepped down on some tunes ) OR would you want an album from him with no enhancements, just in his normal range that he has now, even if there are no longer the soaring highs and adlib falsettos and such. The type of album that he could do live shows with, without stepping down on anything. It might not be as dynamic as his older stuff but it would be the real him.

That's another topic- I didn't think he sounded good on TBF, but was just glad to hear him, though disappointed by the state of his voice. The guy's still got tons of passion, etc.
I'd rather that his voice was back in shape. BUT, I'd take a studio album that he tweaked. That doesn't bug me. Many artists tweak their recordings- However as soon as he starts using that phony autotune, I'm turning it off.

But either case you site above would be cool. I'd like to hear ANYTHING new from him, but I doubt that it'll happen. Even in a lowered vocal range, he'd still out sing a lot of singers and he'd still emote more than most rock singers. He'd still be good, he just wouldn't be AS good.

You must not be listening to many new records if you turn them off every time pitch correction comes on

[DracIsBack]

yah had me up until yer last sentence. The vocal obsession is mine. I have no problem with it. There are a few people here that like to talk about such stuff. If it's not your bag, cool.

Whatever floats your boat! I'm just not into it. In fairness, as a singer, you can contribute to the discussion more than some I've seen ... which is where I have the issue of cutting of his vocal abilities.

I don't think I said he can't sing.

You didn't. We agree on many of the same points.

The guy HAS vocal damage.

No question. But like I said, that bar was set so incredibly high that it could fall a long distance and he could probably still be called an "above average singer".

Cheers

[DracIsBack]

[quote="Rhiannon]
He's:
45% Kitten Puncher[/quote]

lol - if he punched my male tomcat, he'd probably regret doing so very quickly as his skin was sliced off.

[bluejeangirl76]

He's:

5% Range
5% Tone & Delivery
10% Hair
15% Nougat
20% Nose
45% Kitten Puncher

I knew it!!

(Or.. I noug-it)

[bluejeangirl76]

He's:
45% Kitten Puncher

lol - if he punched my male tomcat, he'd probably regret doing so very quickly as his skin was sliced off.

I need to know if he's for hire, or does he just punch them on an amateur level.
I need his services. I got a cat that roughed me up this morning. Made my chin bleed. I went SMFP on her ass for a minute then I had to pick her up and apologize. I need someone who can do it and make the fear stick.

[brywool]

awesome reply Jeremey. I agree with you on a lot of it. I still think range is a big deal but it's because of the stuff I do or WANT to do.

If you'd quit wearing granny dresses, maybe the range wouldn't matter so much.

Hey now...!

Tomorrow night!

[brywool]

Would you guys prefer he puts something out that he might not be able to replicate live, or would you would you want a raw album that sounds exactly like what you would hear if he performed on a tour?

not sure who you're asking gb (by the way, who's in your av?)-
I would prefer that the guy recorded an album and did ONE concert that he dvd'd and let that do the touring for him. For him to tour and do a bunch of shows is unnecessary unless he wanted to do it AND spaced the shows out. Dang, do one show a week and do a small tour of the bigger cities. Same with Zepplin. They should've video'd their reunion gig and put it out and THAT would satisfy (somewhat) those that wanted to see them live.

What I meant was would you like an album like TBF, which sounds great, but when performed live may have to be altered ( stepped down on some tunes ) OR would you want an album from him with no enhancements, just in his normal range that he has now, even if there are no longer the soaring highs and adlib falsettos and such. The type of album that he could do live shows with, without stepping down on anything. It might not be as dynamic as his older stuff but it would be the real him.

That's another topic- I didn't think he sounded good on TBF, but was just glad to hear him, though disappointed by the state of his voice. The guy's still got tons of passion, etc.
I'd rather that his voice was back in shape. BUT, I'd take a studio album that he tweaked. That doesn't bug me. Many artists tweak their recordings- However as soon as he starts using that phony autotune, I'm turning it off.

But either case you site above would be cool. I'd like to hear ANYTHING new from him, but I doubt that it'll happen. Even in a lowered vocal range, he'd still out sing a lot of singers and he'd still emote more than most rock singers. He'd still be good, he just wouldn't be AS good.

You must not be listening to many new records if you turn them off every time pitch correction comes on

yer right! I can hear it a mile away.

[Jeremey]

95% - delivery, tone, vibrato, etc.

5% - range.

You forgot the hair.

5% range
75% tone & delivery
20% sexy hair

Both wrong.

He's:

5% Range
5% Tone & Delivery
10% Hair
15% Nougat
20% Nose
45% Kitten Puncher

As long as no % = donkey punch.

[bluejeangirl76]

As long as no % = donkey punch.

*NARRFF*

Omg.

[Rhiannon]

As long as no % = donkey punch.

Not since '86.

[Lora]

Man, I hope I'm able to sing that well in 8 years.

I've never "gotten" the obsession some people have with Perry's technical (ie range, etc) abilities, versus the simple use of his instrument. No matter what his range and gymnastics are or have been, he is simply one of the best ever at delivering a song. Unfortunately Perry set a pretty high bar for himself in his formative years, and there will always be those that expect him to replicate that period of his career. I think that's a pretty heavy weight that hangs on his shoulders. When he says things like "my voice sometimes sounds like..me..." in interviews, that says a lot to me about what he struggles with. It boggles my mind that debate will always continue among some about Perry's voice. The condition of his biological abilities is really a moot point. The reason why there will never be another Steve Perry is that very personal wellspring of pain, love, desire, and freedom that he tapped into and shared with each of us every time he held a microphone. If and when he ever finds the courage to do it again, that spring will still be there, I promise you.

That was so beautifully said. The discussions about range and 'what happened to his voice' and all the other ridiculous speculation just tells me that some people get it and some do not. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong in what they feel. It is more a matter of what it is about a singer that touches your soul and range just does not matter to me.

[bluejeangirl76]

It is more a matter of what it is about a singer that touches your soul and range just does not matter to me.

I'm stealing that immediately.

[Don]

It is more a matter of what it is about a singer that touches your soul and range just does not matter to me.

I'm stealing that immediately.

Why, is emote already copyrighted by Deb?

[brywool]

Man, I hope I'm able to sing that well in 8 years.

I've never "gotten" the obsession some people have with Perry's technical (ie range, etc) abilities, versus the simple use of his instrument. No matter what his range and gymnastics are or have been, he is simply one of the best ever at delivering a song. Unfortunately Perry set a pretty high bar for himself in his formative years, and there will always be those that expect him to replicate that period of his career. I think that's a pretty heavy weight that hangs on his shoulders. When he says things like "my voice sometimes sounds like..me..." in interviews, that says a lot to me about what he struggles with. It boggles my mind that debate will always continue among some about Perry's voice. The condition of his biological abilities is really a moot point. The reason why there will never be another Steve Perry is that very personal wellspring of pain, love, desire, and freedom that he tapped into and shared with each of us every time he held a microphone. If and when he ever finds the courage to do it again, that spring will still be there, I promise you.

That was so beautifully said. The discussions about range and 'what happened to his voice' and all the other ridiculous speculation just tells me that some people get it and some do not. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong in what they feel. It is more a matter of what it is about a singer that touches your soul and range just does not matter to me.

While it "touches the soul" it's not the same topic as "how is he making that sound?" or rather, how is he not making it anymore? Nobody can deny the guy's passion. I "Get it" Lora, but there's more to the guy's vocal delivery than just passion or how he makes one swoon. The fact that someone (a guy) can hit (or COULD hit) those notes is amazing. The fact that he could lose that is sad.

Doesn't mean I don't get it. Means that I'm curious about the mechanics of it as well. My wanting to know about his voice production and the mechanics of it is no sillier than some of the other topics in here...

[Onestepper]

Man, I hope I'm able to sing that well in 8 years.

I've never "gotten" the obsession some people have with Perry's technical (ie range, etc) abilities, versus the simple use of his instrument. No matter what his range and gymnastics are or have been, he is simply one of the best ever at delivering a song. Unfortunately Perry set a pretty high bar for himself in his formative years, and there will always be those that expect him to replicate that period of his career. I think that's a pretty heavy weight that hangs on his shoulders. When he says things like "my voice sometimes sounds like..me..." in interviews, that says a lot to me about what he struggles with. It boggles my mind that debate will always continue among some about Perry's voice. The condition of his biological abilities is really a moot point. The reason why there will never be another Steve Perry is that very personal wellspring of pain, love, desire, and freedom that he tapped into and shared with each of us every time he held a microphone. If and when he ever finds the courage to do it again, that spring will still be there, I promise you.

That was so beautifully said. The discussions about range and 'what happened to his voice' and all the other ridiculous speculation just tells me that some people get it and some do not. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong in what they feel. It is more a matter of what it is about a singer that touches your soul and range just does not matter to me.

While it "touches the soul" it's not the same topic as "how is he making that sound?" or rather, how is he not making it anymore? Nobody can deny the guy's passion. I "Get it" Lora, but there's more to the guy's vocal delivery than just passion or how he makes one swoon. The fact that someone (a guy) can hit (or COULD hit) those notes is amazing. The fact that he could lose that is sad.

Doesn't mean I don't get it. Means that I'm curious about the mechanics of it as well. My wanting to know about his voice production and the mechanics of it is no sillier than some of the other topics in here...

Very well said.