Who wants some?

[G.I.Jim]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?[/quote]

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

[artist4perry]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.[/quote]

I did................pbttttttttttttt

[G.I.Jim]

who makes meatpies? i 've seen horses make a mean meatpie. but it never made me hungry. now meatpatch i've heard of. a dude's bald spot.

WTF??? What is it with you and animals shitting? You have some SERIOUS issues my man! I'm going to let you argue with yourself for a while.

[Uno_up]

who makes meatpies? i 've seen horses make a mean meatpie. but it never made me hungry. now meatpatch i've heard of. a dude's bald spot.

WTF??? What is it with you and animals shitting? You have some SERIOUS issues my man! I'm going to let you argue with yourself for a while.

ok fucker, let's talk some baseball.

why don't the red sox start buchholz and especially masterson? why sign broken down crap like penny and a moldy smoltz? those two kids are awesome but the sox seem determined to stunt their growth. every time i see masterson pitch i'm impressed. he had a 3.16 era last year. give the kid a fucking job. brad penny? please.

[Jubilee]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.[/quote]

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

[G.I.Jim]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

[artist4perry]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange. [/quote]

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash!

[G.I.Jim]

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange. [/quote]

I didn't like them, so they left!

[Jubilee]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

[G.I.Jim]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

[artist4perry]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

That's O.K. I have someone who can send him to the moon..........

[Jubilee]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash! [/quote]


A4P first you and I have to get together and pulverize Jim for that "My mother died" crack, ....then you and I will have a talk about the tinfoil...

[artist4perry]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

O.K. I think we went to the moon.........we have rocks..........we have astronauts.......................we have pictures. No one can alter pictures! And where else would the flag not wave due to gravity changes? How would Frank Zappa have ever named his daughter? Explain that one!

[G.I.Jim]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash!

A4P first you and I have to get together and pulverize Jim for that "My mother died" crack, ....then you and I will have a talk about the tinfoil... [/quote]

BRING IT!!!

[artist4perry]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash!

A4P first you and I have to get together and pulverize Jim for that "My mother died" crack, ....then you and I will have a talk about the tinfoil... [/quote]

I have duct tape, and a weed eater...........what have you got?

[Jubilee]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

[artist4perry]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

I'll throw in a rabbid chiwawa on crack, mind you it is a hairless chiwawa, you need to find something that will make GI sneeze......................

[Jubilee]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash!

A4P first you and I have to get together and pulverize Jim for that "My mother died" crack, ....then you and I will have a talk about the tinfoil...

I have duct tape, and a weed eater...........what have you got? [/quote]

a Louisville Slugger and a solid alibi

[artist4perry]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash!

A4P first you and I have to get together and pulverize Jim for that "My mother died" crack, ....then you and I will have a talk about the tinfoil...

I have duct tape, and a weed eater...........what have you got?

a Louisville Slugger and a solid alibi[/quote]

How about making him listen to tella tubbies sound tracks...............we can make him listen to Tinky Winky till his ears bleed!

[Jubilee]

First of all let me clarify, to be fair, Stephen Hawking realy is a legitimate scientist and so far as I know doesn't expouse any of this nonsense and neither do I.

Secondly, Mister "I Can Debunk Anything", you've been watching too much Star Trek. You're working from the assumption that our benevolent alien benefactors have the same physiology and biological functions as we do. Just because you and I drink water and breathe air doesn't mean they do.

Stephen Hawking is human just like the rest of us. Scientists also claimed the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around the earth. Not knocking him, but so many scientists have distorted facts from their beliefs over the years, it's scary as hell.

As far as the "debunking anything", I was just messing with you. We can go at this though! So you believe that aliens came here that didn't breath air and drink water like we did? And I assume we evolved? Is there any evidence of this?

Oh, now you've gone and done it Mister. Scoff if you will at me, but I will not have you question Mr. Hawking!! Never!

Is there evidence of what, that our alien lords and masters didn't drink water or that we evolved? Oh, Hell, let's fight about something else. I don't know enough about alien crap to keep us this charade...

Alright...uhm....what else do you want to fight about?

Alrighty, then. I know you're a musician. I have always been of the opinion that it is not necessary, or even desirable to have singers write there own songs. My opinion is that songwriting is a craft unto itself and should be left to the professionals. If someone has the ability to do both, great, but why force the issue? Particularly with young artist who may be fine vocalists but sorely lacking in the ability to write a song. What say ye, Jimbo?

I don't necessarily agree with that. There are singers who are great songwriters, and several musicians that SUCK at songwriting. I'm still just getting my feet wet in the process of writing lyrics, but have worked with singers who could rattle off lyrics as fast as you could play the songs. I just think it's something you have to craft, just like any other talent. Just like drawing or painting...you're not going to paint a million dollar painting on your first try.

I understand that. I guess my point is, it seemed back in the old days there were people whose job it was to write songs. That's it. Just write songs. And they were very, very good at what they did. They were poetic, they knew how to turn a phrase, so to speak, and write hooks that really stayed with you. It seems to me that's lacking in todays music.

p.s. what's wrong with this thread? There's no separators between posts here...very strange.

It is the monkey Alien theory..........quick get some tinfoil from madsplash!

A4P first you and I have to get together and pulverize Jim for that "My mother died" crack, ....then you and I will have a talk about the tinfoil...

I have duct tape, and a weed eater...........what have you got?

a Louisville Slugger and a solid alibi

How about making him listen to tella tubbies sound tracks...............we can make him listen to Tinky Winky till his ears bleed! [/quote]


or...I'll hold him down and you tickle his feet until he pisses himself.

[artist4perry]

Too late.................... Hey, where did the little wuss go?

[G.I.Jim]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

Were you there? Have you ever researched any of the evidence that says we didn't? There is a lot of evidence that says we didn't. We as a country had a very serious need to be the first to land there (with the arms race). If we landed there 40 years ago with 40 year old technology (today's cars have much more electronics and more powerfull computers in them than the lunar lander had in it back then), then why haven't we gone back? How did the radiation experienced then not kill the astronauts? They basically wore a vinyl suit with a plastic helmet...not nearly enough to protect them from all that radiation.

How were there multiple shadows cast from the rocks from the supposed single light that NASA claims was present?

There are so many instances of "how the hell do they explain that", that it makes me really question whether or not we ever landed. I'm not saying we didn't, but there's a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. Just saying!

[G.I.Jim]

Too late.................... Hey, where did the little wuss go?

I had to go change my shorts!

[artist4perry]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

Were you there? Have you ever researched any of the evidence that says we didn't? There is a lot of evidence that says we didn't. We as a country had a very serious need to be the first to land there (with the arms race). If we landed there 40 years ago with 40 year old technology (today's cars have much more electronics and more powerfull computers in them than the lunar lander had in it back then), then why haven't we gone back? How did the radiation experienced then not kill the astronauts? They basically wore a vinyl suit with a plastic helmet...not nearly enough to protect them from all that radiation.

How were there multiple shadows cast from the rocks from the supposed single light that NASA claims was present?

There are so many instances of "how the hell do they explain that", that it makes me really question whether or not we ever landed. I'm not saying we didn't, but there's a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. Just saying!

Speak of the victom.........I mean devil..........
My great aunt also did not beleive we went to the moon............she talked to her slippers..............

[Rick]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

Were you there? Have you ever researched any of the evidence that says we didn't? There is a lot of evidence that says we didn't. We as a country had a very serious need to be the first to land there (with the arms race). If we landed there 40 years ago with 40 year old technology (today's cars have much more electronics and more powerfull computers in them than the lunar lander had in it back then), then why haven't we gone back? How did the radiation experienced then not kill the astronauts? They basically wore a vinyl suit with a plastic helmet...not nearly enough to protect them from all that radiation.

How were there multiple shadows cast from the rocks from the supposed single light that NASA claims was present?

There are so many instances of "how the hell do they explain that", that it makes me really question whether or not we ever landed. I'm not saying we didn't, but there's a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. Just saying!

We discussed this in another thread. I already gave concrete evidence that we went. I saw it on tv. There were moon rocks, the lunar rover, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were kicking up moon dust. How much proof do you people need?

[G.I.Jim]

Speak of the victom.........I mean devil..........
My great aunt also did not beleive we went to the moon............she talked to her slippers.............. [/quote]

I don't talk to slippers......my flip flops get a little sassy sometimes, but I just kick the shit out of them and they shut the hell up!

[artist4perry]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

Were you there? Have you ever researched any of the evidence that says we didn't? There is a lot of evidence that says we didn't. We as a country had a very serious need to be the first to land there (with the arms race). If we landed there 40 years ago with 40 year old technology (today's cars have much more electronics and more powerfull computers in them than the lunar lander had in it back then), then why haven't we gone back? How did the radiation experienced then not kill the astronauts? They basically wore a vinyl suit with a plastic helmet...not nearly enough to protect them from all that radiation.

How were there multiple shadows cast from the rocks from the supposed single light that NASA claims was present?

There are so many instances of "how the hell do they explain that", that it makes me really question whether or not we ever landed. I'm not saying we didn't, but there's a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. Just saying!

We discussed this in another thread. I already gave concrete evidence that we went. I saw it on tv. There were moon rocks, the lunar rover, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were kicking up moon dust. How much proof do you people need?

He wants moon sluts...............

[G.I.Jim]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

Were you there? Have you ever researched any of the evidence that says we didn't? There is a lot of evidence that says we didn't. We as a country had a very serious need to be the first to land there (with the arms race). If we landed there 40 years ago with 40 year old technology (today's cars have much more electronics and more powerfull computers in them than the lunar lander had in it back then), then why haven't we gone back? How did the radiation experienced then not kill the astronauts? They basically wore a vinyl suit with a plastic helmet...not nearly enough to protect them from all that radiation.

How were there multiple shadows cast from the rocks from the supposed single light that NASA claims was present?

There are so many instances of "how the hell do they explain that", that it makes me really question whether or not we ever landed. I'm not saying we didn't, but there's a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. Just saying!

We discussed this in another thread. I already gave concrete evidence that we went. I saw it on tv. There were moon rocks, the lunar rover, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were kicking up moon dust. How much proof do you people need?

Rick...don't make me come to Texas tonight. I SWORE I was gonna make it a whole week without whipping someone's ass!

[artist4perry]

[Jubilee]

Don't mess with Stephen Hawking....I'm a Hawking buff. I'll definitely kick ass and be taking names.

We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special. - Stephen Hawking

I seriously hope you're joking. Humans (at least this early on in our civilization) don't have a freaking CLUE about our universe, and anybody that claims we can understand it is an utter idiot! They didn't know until just recently that our moon (as well as several other moons in our galaxy) contain water. They also told us our entire lives that Pluto was a planet. Now it's classified as a meteor...you're telling me that these scientists have a freaking CLUE about anything in the universe? And for the record...I don't think we ever went to the moon.

...and there you have it folks.

Let's debate it!

We went to the moon. Period.

Were you there? Have you ever researched any of the evidence that says we didn't? There is a lot of evidence that says we didn't. We as a country had a very serious need to be the first to land there (with the arms race). If we landed there 40 years ago with 40 year old technology (today's cars have much more electronics and more powerfull computers in them than the lunar lander had in it back then), then why haven't we gone back? How did the radiation experienced then not kill the astronauts? They basically wore a vinyl suit with a plastic helmet...not nearly enough to protect them from all that radiation.

How were there multiple shadows cast from the rocks from the supposed single light that NASA claims was present?

There are so many instances of "how the hell do they explain that", that it makes me really question whether or not we ever landed. I'm not saying we didn't, but there's a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. Just saying!

Well, no there isn't a LOT of evidence out there that screams hoax. What's out there is just enough misinformation, and enough mis-connected dots to get the conspiracy theory nuts going. There's no doubt the Americans were anxious to be the first to the moon with all the Cold War jocking for position that was going on at the time. I'm nowhere near qualified to make an attempt at trying to debunk this theory, but, I'm inclined to answer some of those questions with other questions, such as: why would we need to go back, didn't we go 3 times or so? Didn't find anything, so what's the rush to get back? How much radiation are we talking about, and just what were those astronauts suits made of anyway? I'm sure they weren't vinyl/pleather with Nerf helmets. And as for the shadows, first you have to take in to consideration the position of the sun, not just the light from the craft. The sun does shine on the moon and cast shadows just like it does on the earth, you know.

I dunno. Just seems like the more questions, the more questions.