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Postby Duncan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:17 am

Gideon, I'm genuinely interested. You have clearly spent a lot of time listing to Journey music and have formed some clear opinions about SP's vocals. I was wondering other than Perry who else you would rate, any era, and for what reason. who are your top 5 vocalists?

Everyone post your own. Don't restrict yourself to rawk singers.

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Postby Gideon » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:21 am

That would require some deep thinking. Mind if I get back to you later?
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Postby Duncan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:24 am

Gideon wrote:That would require some deep thinking. Mind if I get back to you later?


Of course. I'm hoping you might have a discovery for me.

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Postby Duncan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:48 am

My list, based on their best years.

Steve Perry - range, phrasing, emotion.
Frank Sinatra - phrasing, tone.
Russell Hitchcock - effortless tenor
Jim Morrison - possibly the most influential rock star of all time..and he could sing. Check out Crystal ship
Elvis

...this was off the top of my head. I might change it if I think about it for longer.


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Postby Gideon » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:08 pm

Duncan wrote:
Gideon wrote:That would require some deep thinking. Mind if I get back to you later?


Of course. I'm hoping you might have a discovery for me.

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I doubt I'll have a new discovery for you.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:10 pm

I tried to narrow it down to 5, but just can't! Here's my top 10 singers (minus Perry of course), and they're in no particular order.


1. Lou Gramm-until 7 or 8 years ago. The whole situation makes me very sad! :( I still love him though.

2. Phil Collins-still a freaking amazing singer! The guys a MONSTER on stage.:shock:

3. Jimi Jamison-any album except Survivor's last album! He still has it too! Freaking awesome! I'm listening to his "Crosswords Moment" album right now, and I'm amazed at how awesome his voice still sounds!:wink:

4. David Coverdale- his last "Whitesnake" album is my favorite new album of last year. That album kicks ASS over anything else that's been released in the last few years IMHO. :wink:

5. Peter Gabriel- awesome showman, and you'd have a hard time not liking him live!

6. Richard Marx- really just his older stuff.

7. Paul Stanley- still amazes me to this day! The stage was MADE for Paul.

8. Sammy Hagar-Daivd who? :lol: JUST kidding, I like a lot of David's stuff too, but I liked Sammy's Halen a little better. :wink:

9. Steve Lukather- kickass singer AND guitarist...need I say more? :D

10. Joey Tempest- All Europe albums up until their hiatus. Don't care for the two new albums. Why try to fix something that isn't broken? DAMN...just go back to that 80's sound that you were good at. I'm sick of bands like this playing drop-key guitars trying to "fit in" with todays bands. If I liked or wanted "new" music, I'd listen to Korn or some other shitty band! :roll: :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:17 pm

Sorry, love Steve Perry.........he will always be #1 in my oppinion

Nat King Cole~ Beautiful voice, haunting and romantic!

Seal~ His song "Don't cry" sweet and I do cry! :evil:

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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:19 pm

artist4perry wrote:Sorry, love Steve Perry.........he will always be #1 in my oppinion

Nat King Cole~ Beautiful voice, haunting and romantic!

Seal~ His song "Don't cry" sweet and I do cry! :evil:

Paul Mc Cartney


How gay! :roll: JUST joking! :wink: Hope you're having a good night. :D
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:27 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
artist4perry wrote:Sorry, love Steve Perry.........he will always be #1 in my oppinion

Nat King Cole~ Beautiful voice, haunting and romantic!

Seal~ His song "Don't cry" sweet and I do cry! :evil:

Paul Mc Cartney~ just one of the most romantic singers of our time/ yesterday/my love etc...


How gay! :roll: JUST joking! :wink: Hope you're having a good night. :D


Nope, not gay, :roll: :roll: :roll: romantic............I love a beautiful sultry voice.............and add Sam Cooke, and Smokey Robbinson.

Thank you, how are you doing? :D

I agree on Gabriel and Phil Colins ........... :wink:
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Postby Vladan » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:54 pm

This one is very easy. These my top 5 best singers of all time, obviously there are others that are just as good, but being only a choice of 5.

Steve Perry
John Farnham
Freddie Mercury
George Michael
Lou Gramm
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Postby Gideon » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:01 pm

Vladan wrote:This one is very easy. These my top 5 best singers of all time, obviously there are others that are just as good, but being only a choice of 5.

Steve Perry
John Farnham
Freddie Mercury
George Michael
Lou Gramm


Surprisingly, this list recognizes the one that springs immediately to mind. But I might replace Gramm with Chalfant.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:13 pm

Gideon wrote:
Vladan wrote:This one is very easy. These my top 5 best singers of all time, obviously there are others that are just as good, but being only a choice of 5.

Steve Perry
John Farnham
Freddie Mercury
George Michael
Lou Gramm


Surprisingly, this list recognizes the one that springs immediately to mind. But I might replace Gramm with Chalfant.


You are SERIOUSLY smoking crack! :shock: I really liked the first Storm album, but Gramm is miles above ANYTHING Chalfant was a part of. Gramm has (okay, HAD) more soul, power and conviction in his vocals than nearly any singer we've ever heard. I think in his day, he was just as good as Perry. Of course opinions are like assholes... :wink:
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Postby Peartree12249 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:19 pm

Of course Perry is first so I'll list my next favorite 5:

Steve Winwood
Scott Stapp
Robert Plant (pre-1980)
Eric Burdon
Bob Seger

and female singers are:

Tina Turner
Ann Wilson
Annie Lennox
Janis Joplin
Bonnie Raitt
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Postby annie89509 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:45 pm

My top 5 favorite singers of all-time are:
1) Steve Perry
2) Paul McCartney
3) Elton John
4) Rod Stewart
5) Whitney Houston

I have a question for Gideon, too. Given he's only 17 yrs. old and seems to possess such a deep knowledge of music theory, does he have any sort of musical training or come from a musical family background? I have 3 teenaged boys, and they wouldn't be caught dead listening to "old folks" music. It's the latest hiphop and gangsta pop for them.
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Postby swataz » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:52 pm

annie89509 wrote:My top 5 favorite singers of all-time are:
1) Steve Perry
2) Paul McCartney
3) Elton John
4) Rod Stewart
5) Whitney Houston

I have a question for Gideon, too. Given he's only 17 yrs. old and seems to possess such a deep knowledge of music theory, does he have any sort of musical training or come from a musical family background? I have 3 teenaged boys, and they wouldn't be caught dead listening to "old folks" music. It's the latest hiphop and gangsta pop for them.


You poor thing. I hope you aren't subjected to that stuff TOO much! :)
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Postby annie89509 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:56 pm

swataz wrote:
annie89509 wrote:My top 5 favorite singers of all-time are:
1) Steve Perry
2) Paul McCartney
3) Elton John
4) Rod Stewart
5) Whitney Houston

I have a question for Gideon, too. Given he's only 17 yrs. old and seems to possess such a deep knowledge of music theory, does he have any sort of musical training or come from a musical family background? I have 3 teenaged boys, and they wouldn't be caught dead listening to "old folks" music. It's the latest hiphop and gangsta pop for them.


You poor thing. I hope you aren't subjected to that stuff TOO much! :)

:lol: no, they each have ipods :lol: , and I'm secluded in my room with my SP/Journey cds and dvds.
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Postby cyndy! » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:02 pm

other than the SMFP:
eric martin - soul
george michael - tender emotion
karen carpenter - depth & clarity
maxwell - seduction
chris cornell - soul crushing emotion (when he's not doing that hip-hop crap with timbaland)
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Postby Don » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:12 pm

Steve Perry because he emotes and I feel his pain
John Farnham rich voice, oversings but is such a good showman it becomes enjoyable
Johnny Mathis smooth as butter, boot knockin type of sound
George Michael clear as a bell, angelic voice
Bruce Dickinson also clear as a bell, but with a voice as strong as Lucifer's

Edited because of the loud voice below me.
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Postby cyndy! » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:19 pm

can you people not follow simple instructions? include a brief explanation of WHY you chose your vocalists, damn it! don't make me kick all your asses! :evil:

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Postby walkslikealady » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:26 pm

Voices I love...

Steve Perry
Jim Morrison
Tim Buckley
Ian Anderson
Johnny Mathis

And there's a woman I heard who sings Celtic songs I absolutely love...never heard her name.

And why do I like them? Didn't take music appreciation, so all I can say is "I just do"...instinct?
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Postby SusieP » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:48 pm

Steve Perry - voice has such soul, he soars, his vibrato is wonderful and listening to him stirs my soul. His voice touches me. His voice is very, very special. He is number one for me.

Ella Fitzgerald - just when you think she has hit a note and that's it, she pulls more out of the bag and takes it further. Her tone is beautiful and rich. Very stylish singer. She makes the Cole Porter songs all her own.

Karen Carpenter - deep, rich like melted chocolate. Fabulous voice.

Sinatra - his tone is so lovely. And I just love those songs he made famous. They are in a class all of their own.

George Michael - its the purity of his voice which I love. He soars, and sounds so clear and beautiful. The production on his albums is also wonderful.


I also love Lou Gramm, Peggy Lee, Ann Wilson, Pat Benatar, Annie Lennox, Matt Munro, Dusty Springfield, Glen Hughes, David Coverdale, Jimi Jameson and I think Whitney Houston had an incredible voice. Not sure what she sounds like now tho.

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Postby Moon Beam » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:41 pm

Steve Perry~ Hits a helluva nice note
Patsy Cline~ Emits emotion
Paul McCartney~ Makes music magical
Karen Carpenter~ Angels envy her
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Postby mriesenb » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:25 pm

walkslikealady wrote:Voices I love...

Steve Perry
Jim Morrison
Tim Buckley
Ian Anderson
Johnny Mathis

And there's a woman I heard who sings Celtic songs I absolutely love...never heard her name.

And why do I like them? Didn't take music appreciation, so all I can say is "I just do"...instinct?


Enya?
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Postby mriesenb » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:27 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:I tried to narrow it down to 5, but just can't! Here's my top 10 singers (minus Perry of course), and they're in no particular order.


1. Lou Gramm-until 7 or 8 years ago. The whole situation makes me very sad! :( I still love him though.

2. Phil Collins-still a freaking amazing singer! The guys a MONSTER on stage.:shock:

3. Jimi Jamison-any album except Survivor's last album! He still has it too! Freaking awesome! I'm listening to his "Crosswords Moment" album right now, and I'm amazed at how awesome his voice still sounds!:wink:

4. David Coverdale- his last "Whitesnake" album is my favorite new album of last year. That album kicks ASS over anything else that's been released in the last few years IMHO. :wink:

5. Peter Gabriel- awesome showman, and you'd have a hard time not liking him live!

6. Richard Marx- really just his older stuff.

7. Paul Stanley- still amazes me to this day! The stage was MADE for Paul.

8. Sammy Hagar-Daivd who? :lol: JUST kidding, I like a lot of David's stuff too, but I liked Sammy's Halen a little better. :wink:

9. Steve Lukather- kickass singer AND guitarist...need I say more? :D

10. Joey Tempest- All Europe albums up until their hiatus. Don't care for the two new albums. Why try to fix something that isn't broken? DAMN...just go back to that 80's sound that you were good at. I'm sick of bands like this playing drop-key guitars trying to "fit in" with todays bands. If I liked or wanted "new" music, I'd listen to Korn or some other shitty band! :roll: :lol:


Agree with most of them. Would replace Stanley, Hagar and Tempest with Richard Page, Eric Martin and Michael McDonald.
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Postby AlteredDNA » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:53 pm

Other than Perry, in no particular order:

1) Lisa Gerrard - totally unique and otherwordly
2) Freddie Mercury - vocal acrobatics and amazing control
3) Jeff Buckley - ethereal
4) Rob Halford - power and range
5) George Michael - smooth and pure
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Postby Triple S » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:30 am

I'm no music expert either so I'm not sure I can describe why, but . . .

1) Steve Perry - voice makes my toes curl :wink:
2) Burton Cummings - powerful emotional, and above all, unique
3) Michael Hutchence - not usually recognized for his voice, underrated vocalist I think. The man could sing.
4) Eva Cassidy/Sarah MacLachlan - voice(s) of an angel
5) Freddie Mercury - see no. 1

Honorable mention - George Michael, Frank Sinatra, Etta James, Elvis, Chuck Negron, Engelbert Humperdinck :oops: . And the master - Luciano Pavarotti.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:42 am

1) Steve Perry - nuff said there
2) Amy Lee - haunting, ethereal
3) Annie Haslam - one of the first vocalists to every knock me off my feet. She was my muse.
4) James Hetfield - his power -- I never get tired of it
5) Chester Bennington - If you've ever heard him sing stuff other than Linkin Park, you'd understand. That boy is amazing.
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Postby artist4perry » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:51 am

I have to agree with cyndy on Karen Carpenter, she had such a beautiful voice.......clear haunting.

I also like strong sweet singing....... :D
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Postby walkslikealady » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:12 am

mriesenb wrote:
walkslikealady wrote:Voices I love...

Steve Perry
Jim Morrison
Tim Buckley
Ian Anderson
Johnny Mathis

And there's a woman I heard who sings Celtic songs I absolutely love...never heard her name.

And why do I like them? Didn't take music appreciation, so all I can say is "I just do"...instinct?


Enya?


Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think it's her because I've listened to Enya. This was a tape/record a friend got from the library at least 15 years ago and I don't think it was a best seller type of thing. However, her voice was pure to me...I still hear some songs from it in my head.
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Postby walkslikealady » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:14 am

And some would shoot me and I'm sure make some nasty cracks about it; however, I've always enjoyed Boy George's voice.
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