Arnel 2009

[Blueskies]

I'm not sure why this is being discussed. He was "canned" because he was too good.

But of course! That has to be the reason. I was declined for a job because I was "over qualified". Man, I'm really starting to understand now. This is good and everyone is making lots of sense. At first I thought you guys were too fast for me, but suddenly I've become enlightened. Thank you!

Took you awhile to walk down that long dark tunnel. I welcome both you and Giddles to the light. It's a happy place.

[Blueskies]

You underestimate Andrew's patience and sense of humor. He'd never say such things and mean them.

The dude is high on the tolerance juice most of the time but once he doesn't get his fix....watch out, sista!

I have complete confidence and trust in him.

Brotha.

Edit: the emoticons suck!

Right on , lil sista!

[Gideon]

You underestimate Andrew's patience and sense of humor. He'd never say such things and mean them.

The dude is high on the tolerance juice most of the time but once he doesn't get his fix....watch out, brotha!

I have complete confidence and trust in him.

Brotha.

Edit: the emoticons suck!

Right on , lil sista!

[texafana]

I totally agree JSS is the superior front man. I doubt anyone could argue that. But...Arnel still sounds better than JSS in regards to singing Journey tunage.

[joonrock]

I totally agree JSS is the superior front man. I doubt anyone could argue that. But...Arnel still sounds better than JSS in regards to singing Journey tunage.

I've got to disagree here. I went to see Journey with JSS and I'm just not keen on the macho, 'Bring it on' style of front man. Journey's music isn't like that and I really didn't dig him in Journey at all. Ive been to see Journey with Arnel twice and have to say that he has developed a stage personality that you can warm to on a personal level.
I always thought Freddie Mercury had it 100% perfect though; a mix of macho, in your face along with the smiley and cheky side makes a perfect stage persona. Arnell and SP are very small built men and play(ed) on the innocent part of their character very well.
I didn't feel that JSS's personality came through on stage, which to me is a big part of a front man.
I have posted in another Topic that I was at Le Bataclan in Paris when they perfromed with Arnel a few weeks ago, and I mean it, it was the best gig I have been to in my life. I had lost faith in Journey when they had three different singers on three European tours. I was ready to throw the towel in as a Journey fan, but when I heard revelation (quite aptly named) and gave them the benefit of the doubt live again I was really impressed! I went to see them again this year and I really do think we have a classic lineup mark 2 here, I mean that...
The whole sound of the band has more energy on records than they ever had with Augeri, and even later Perry stuff. The live performances are amazing, and on a last note, Deen Castronovo is the Man! This could be one classic rock band that could really end on a high, many (including myself) would say after the stupid choices that have made over the last 11 years that they don't deserve it, but they have a lot to thank Arnel AND deen for....

[Jana]

I totally agree JSS is the superior front man. I doubt anyone could argue that. But...Arnel still sounds better than JSS in regards to singing Journey tunage.

Well, actually, I argue it - For Journey. He is an excellent frontman in his own genre of music, and I do mean excellent, but for Journey I put him at the bottom of the list for Journey singers past and present. I did not like his style on stage with Journey. But that's my opinion. I would never tell other people I'm right, because this is all personal preference in the end. I respect that other people feel differently.
Too bad Gideon derailed this thread with his sarcastic comment re JSS.

Back to Arnel and how he is doing this year. Again, I am blown away by his growth with the band this year. I really enjoyed him last year, but watching him on all the videos this year you really see his confidence level with the band has grown. I love the energy of the whole band. Like I said before, just tremendous musicians.

I enjoyed reading Joonrock's comments here as he actually has seen live one of their concerts this year.

[brywool]

I totally agree JSS is the superior front man. I doubt anyone could argue that. But...Arnel still sounds better than JSS in regards to singing Journey tunage.

I don't agree. Good front guy, but I just didn't like his frontguy-ness with Journey. Just didn't match up to me. However, I would hope that Arnel's English improves enough where he can converse with the crowd more than "how ya doing"? or whatever, but as far as movement and engaging the crowd, I think Arnel's great. The leaps he does and other stuff give the band a pretty youthful look imho.

[stevew2]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

[Aaron]

I'm yet to hear any gig that isn't detuned.

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

[youkeepmewaiting]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

[brywool]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

wasn't tuned down last year when I saw them. This year, they've been going back and forth. Like I said, the only people who care or notice it are musicans. Big deal. Those'll be the same guys standing in front of the band with their arms folded scowling at every missed part while the rest of the audience eats it up. It's not a big deal, it helps the vocals and yet, some people make way too big an issue of it. Van Halen did it forever, Poison (and I'm no fan of them) did it, Extreme did it, many bands do it. Who cares?

[youkeepmewaiting]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

wasn't tuned down last year when I saw them. This year, they've been going back and forth. Like I said, the only people who care or notice it are musicans. Big deal. Those'll be the same guys standing in front of the band with their arms folded scowling at every missed part while the rest of the audience eats it up. It's not a big deal, it helps the vocals and yet, some people make way too big an issue of it. Van Halen did it forever, Poison (and I'm no fan of them) did it, Extreme did it, many bands do it. Who cares?

I'd prefer to have 5 years of them going back and forth and keeping Arnel, rather that going full throttle and losing him 2 years down the line. It can only be a good thing

[annie89509]

Where's the link to this performance you guys are talking about?

[Don]

Where's the link to this performance you guys are talking about?

It's not available any longer.

[annie89509]

Where's the link to this performance you guys are talking about?

It's not available any longer.

Oh, I caught up further down the board. Was it the One More - Oslo concert? I managed to watch part of concert before you guys say it is gone. The band shows great energy in these Europe concerts -- certainly they looked dead in the latter part of SA's tenure. I guess they are on a roll now. I plan to go see them in Reno on the 25th -- my first ever Journey concert. I hope I don't start crying that SP is not up there.

[stevew2]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

wasn't tuned down last year when I saw them. This year, they've been going back and forth. Like I said, the only people who care or notice it are musicans. Big deal. Those'll be the same guys standing in front of the band with their arms folded scowling at every missed part while the rest of the audience eats it up. It's not a big deal, it helps the vocals and yet, some people make way too big an issue of it. Van Halen did it forever, Poison (and I'm no fan of them) did it, Extreme did it, many bands do it. Who cares?

It wasnt tuned down at all last year, this everything is tuned down,get used to it , it wont go back up

[stevew2]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

All the time thats when i check this zoo out

[annie89509]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

wasn't tuned down last year when I saw them. This year, they've been going back and forth. Like I said, the only people who care or notice it are musicans. Big deal. Those'll be the same guys standing in front of the band with their arms folded scowling at every missed part while the rest of the audience eats it up. It's not a big deal, it helps the vocals and yet, some people make way too big an issue of it. Van Halen did it forever, Poison (and I'm no fan of them) did it, Extreme did it, many bands do it. Who cares?

It wasnt tuned down at all last year, this everything is tuned down,get used to it , it wont go back up

So, I should expect all the songs in the show to be tuned down?

[Don]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

wasn't tuned down last year when I saw them. This year, they've been going back and forth. Like I said, the only people who care or notice it are musicans. Big deal. Those'll be the same guys standing in front of the band with their arms folded scowling at every missed part while the rest of the audience eats it up. It's not a big deal, it helps the vocals and yet, some people make way too big an issue of it. Van Halen did it forever, Poison (and I'm no fan of them) did it, Extreme did it, many bands do it. Who cares?

It wasnt tuned down at all last year, this everything is tuned down,get used to it , it wont go back up

So, I should expect all the songs in the show to be tuned down?

If you're not noticing it in these new videos then it's not going to make a difference and you shouldn't worry about it. The only show not tuned down this year was the Manila show, because they were making the DVD.

[stevew2]

... AND HAS BEEN DOING SO SINCE LAST YEAR



The whole band seems to have dialed it up a notch or two.

But detuned it half a notch

Not EVERY gig is detuned. It doesn't bother me at all- I think people blow this out of proportion.
These songs are high tunes and if it prolongs APs pipes, I'm all for it. The ONLY people who will know it are musicians
and musicians notoriously bitch about everything anyway, so big deal. The masses couldn't care less.
Had they done that with Augeri, it might've helped. Had they done it with Perry it might've helped as well.
It seems to me that Journey has finally opened their mind to "let's preserve the singer". They're doing the right thing if you ask me.

I don't believe this show was tuned down, but I've only heard the one track so...

All I know is that when I saw Journey in Seattle last year, I was blown away by the guy and he's deserving of the praise that he gets.

Just what i thought, its all tuned down

Dont you get bored?

wasn't tuned down last year when I saw them. This year, they've been going back and forth. Like I said, the only people who care or notice it are musicans. Big deal. Those'll be the same guys standing in front of the band with their arms folded scowling at every missed part while the rest of the audience eats it up. It's not a big deal, it helps the vocals and yet, some people make way too big an issue of it. Van Halen did it forever, Poison (and I'm no fan of them) did it, Extreme did it, many bands do it. Who cares?

It wasnt tuned down at all last year, this everything is tuned down,get used to it , it wont go back up

So, I should expect all the songs in the show to be tuned down?

yep, Friga cant transpose