H1N1 Flu Vaccine Consent Form,Would You Let Your Kids?

[Luvsaugeri]

Flu shots are dumb. They are collectively killing our ability to fight this virus the old fashioned way...and at the same time contributing to increasingly serious strains of the virus.


You could do alot worse than NOT getting these fucking things injected into your body...

Again....your opinion.

Do you also think that MMR, Dtap and the other childhood vaccines are dumb too and killing our ability to fight off those diseases?

You are wrong about flu shots contributing to the increasingly serious strain of the virus. Overuse of antibiotics and not taking them correctly is what has lead to these mutated viruses. Period.

[Saint John]

The vaccine is worthless and has no known benefits. A large study using worldwide evidence yielded this:

Quite simply...

"In children under 2 years inactivated vaccines had the same field efficacy as placebo, and in healthy people under 65 vaccination did not affect hospital stay, time off work, or death from influenza and its complications."

Here's a pretty good article on this farce to scare people into parting with their $$$:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/333/7574/912?ehom=

[Luvsaugeri]

The vaccine is worthless and has no known benefits. A large study using worldwide evidence yielded this:

Quite simply...

"In children under 2 years inactivated vaccines had the same field efficacy as placebo, and in healthy people under 65 vaccination did not affect hospital stay, time off work, or death from influenza and its complications."

Here's a pretty good article on this farce to scare people into parting with their $$$:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/333/7574/912?ehom=

Well, I'm sure you won't be offended if I take the advice of a respected Infectious Disease MD over your advice.

[Saint John]

Well, I'm sure you won't be offended if I take the advice of a respected Infectious Disease MD over your advice.

lol...it's all good, Kelly. I just think our bodies and their natural resistances are the best ways to fight the flu. Additionally, I think a premium should be put on the message of keeping your immune system humming by eating right, exercising, wearing proper clothing, getting proper rest and practicing proper hygiene. Those things are better than any flu shot.

[WalkInMyShoes]

The vaccine is worthless and has no known benefits. A large study using worldwide evidence yielded this:

Quite simply...

"In children under 2 years inactivated vaccines had the same field efficacy as placebo, and in healthy people under 65 vaccination did not affect hospital stay, time off work, or death from influenza and its complications."

Here's a pretty good article on this farce to scare people into parting with their $$$:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/short/333/7574/912?ehom=

Unfortunately that article was from October 2006 and not relevant to the H1N1 subtype, just the seasonal flu. I must admit I didn't know alot about the 1918 pandemic (which was also an influenza A H1N1) and read more about it today. I had no idea that it killed 30-50 million people, almost 5% of the world population including 675,000 US citizens. I agree that most young, healthy people are not going to have trouble, but they can pass it on to those who are more vulnerable. So, getting the shot isn't only for you, it's for everyone that is exposed to you.

[yak]

Flu shots are dumb. They are collectively killing our ability to fight this virus the old fashioned way...and at the same time contributing to increasingly serious strains of the virus.


You could do alot worse than NOT getting these fucking things injected into your body...

Again....your opinion.

Do you also think that MMR, Dtap and the other childhood vaccines are dumb too and killing our ability to fight off those diseases?

You are wrong about flu shots contributing to the increasingly serious strain of the virus. Overuse of antibiotics and not taking them correctly is what has lead to these mutated viruses. Period.

You are wrong. Frank is correct. The information is out there to back up what he and others are saying. I guess it just depends on who and what you decide to read and watch on the telly.

Loved your disingenuous cocktail mix of apples and oranges. It's a fact that since the 90's, autism rates have risen to alarming rates in our kids. The culprit could be mercury (thimerosol) which is not used in Japan. The H1N1 vaccine was manufactured a year before there was any mention of swine flu. It is a toxic cocktail of live viruses, animal pus, and various other toxicities. The vaccine is worse than the flu itself. The children and people who have died from this flu had comprised immune systems to begin with. The swine flu vaccine will contain 25 mcg of thimerosal. It is untested and unsafe. BigPharma contributed $1.4 million to Obama. He has direct ties to them. Connect the dots.

Period.

[yak]

lol...it's all good, Kelly. I just think our bodies and their natural resistances are the best ways to fight the flu. Additionally, I think a premium should be put on the message of keeping your immune system humming by eating right, exercising, wearing proper clothing, getting proper rest and practicing proper hygiene. Those things are better than any flu shot.

EXACTLY RIGHT!!!! Prevention is always the key.

[Angel]

The swine flu vaccine will contain 25 mcg of thimerosal.

You are partially correct, the multidose vials do contain thimerosal.....the single dose vaccinations do not, although most people being vaccinated are getting the vaccine from a mulitdose vial.

[yak]

You CAN NOT get the flu from a flu shot!!! It is IMPOSSIBLE!! It is a KILLED virus filled with dead PARTS of virus. Just enough to give your body an immune response to make antibodies. Can you have a side effect?? Can this immune response make you feel weird? Possibly though rare. Can it give you FULL BLOWN flu as Dr. Lebron has described????? NO WAY!!!!!!

There are rare cases where children have gotten polio from the old oral polio vaccine they stopped using. It was a LIVE oral virus!!! The flu SHOT is never ever ever live!!!!!

There, now I feel much better

Untrue! H1N1 contains several live viruses. Nobody can be held liable for any damages done by this vaccine. That's a red flag right there.

You can inject that toxic garbage into your body all you want. Just don't tell me I have to. Because I will NOT.

And kindly stop spreading falsehoods to people who legitimately want to know facts. You must be part of the "industry."

[yak]

The swine flu vaccine will contain 25 mcg of thimerosal.

You are partially correct, the multidose vials do contain thimerosal.....the single dose vaccinations do not, although most people being vaccinated are getting the vaccine from a mulitdose vial.

Kindly stop spreading falsehoods to people who legitimately want to know facts. You must be part of the "industry."

You people kill me, because in reality you would probably like to. The facts are the facts. You can twist them any which way you see fit, but they remain the facts.

[StevePerryHair]

The flu shot is not worthless. It is a cumulative shot and as long as I have a child who is high risk due to asthma, my children will receive the shot. There is no true evidence backed up by the medical community to prove the autism link. More children throughout history died of diseases or suffered from the after affects of diseases before the time of vaccines than do now from side effects. We are all of the vaccinated generation so we didn't have to see kids stricken with polio wearing braces for the rest of their lives. Or lose a sibling due to pertussis. Why do you think child mortality rates are so much lower today??? Why do you think that swine flu back then killed SO many? It was pre-vaccine and it was before tamiflu and it was before they had ways to treat people as they do now with modern medicine. As generations go on people will not know what it was like in those days before vaccines. Maybe people who are refusing their babies vaccinated should be sent to some 3rd world countries who don't have access to see just how horrible it is and how many children in the world die needlessly when a simple vaccine could have saved their lives. The benefits of vaccines FAR outweigh the risks.

[StevePerryHair]

You CAN NOT get the flu from a flu shot!!! It is IMPOSSIBLE!! It is a KILLED virus filled with dead PARTS of virus. Just enough to give your body an immune response to make antibodies. Can you have a side effect?? Can this immune response make you feel weird? Possibly though rare. Can it give you FULL BLOWN flu as Dr. Lebron has described????? NO WAY!!!!!!

There are rare cases where children have gotten polio from the old oral polio vaccine they stopped using. It was a LIVE oral virus!!! The flu SHOT is never ever ever live!!!!!

There, now I feel much better

Untrue! H1N1 contains several live viruses. Nobody can be held liable for any damages done by this vaccine. That's a red flag right there.

You can inject that toxic garbage into your body all you want. Just don't tell me I have to. Because I will NOT.

And kindly stop spreading falsehoods to people who legitimately want to know facts. You must be part of the "industry."

First of all, I could CARE LESS if you get the H1N1 vaccine or not. I don't think any adult should be forced to do anything they don't want to. That's not what my issue was and that was NOT the point of the things I stated.

James lebron said that HE got the H1N1 flu from the SHOT he received and it is FACT that the H1N1 SHOT does NOT CONTAIN live components. I have no idea where you get your info, but it's WRONG. You maybe are confusing it with the nasal vaccine they are also giving to some people. The SHOT is NOT a live virus. But THANK YOU for misinforming people Dr. Yak And I am not part of any industry. I have no idea what industry you are even referring to.

[yak]

The flu shot is not worthless. It is a cumulative shot and as long as I have a child who is high risk due to asthma, my children will receive the shot. There I no true evidence backed up by the medical community to prove the autism link. More children throughout history died of diseases or suffered from the after affects of diseases before the time of vaccines than do now from side effects. We are all of the vaccinated generation so we didn't have to see kids stricken with polio wearing braces for the rest of their lives. Or lose a sibling due to pertussis. Why do you think child mortality rates are so much lower today??? Why do you think that swine flu back then killed SO many? It was pre-vaccine and it was before tamiflu and it was before they had ways to treat people as they do now with modern medicine. As generations go on people will not know what it was like in those days before vaccines. Maybe people who are refusing their babies vaccinated should be sent to some 3rd world countries who don't have access to see just how horrible it is and how many children in the world die needlessly when a simple vaccine could have saved their lives. The benefits of vaccines FAR outweigh the risks.

SPH, your analogy of third world countries is laughable, and you know it. More scare tactics, which have nothing to do with the reality of this toxic cocktail. The flu shot IS worthless. Totally. Period. End.Of.Sentence. It was developed a year before the swine flu arrived.

There is plenty of evidence about the autism connection. It is being surpressed by the medical community. What do you seriously think would be the result if the truth came out?????

Kill yourself with it if you wish. Be my guest. Most of what your spouting here is pure shit. You're taking all your information from government websites. DUH That would be like putting the Loons in charge of Steve Perry's house.

[StevePerryHair]

Well, I'm sure you won't be offended if I take the advice of a respected Infectious Disease MD over your advice.

lol...it's all good, Kelly. I just think our bodies and their natural resistances are the best ways to fight the flu. Additionally, I think a premium should be put on the message of keeping your immune system humming by eating right, exercising, wearing proper clothing, getting proper rest and practicing proper hygiene. Those things are better than any flu shot.

Easier said than done Dan. Have you ever been in a classroom full of kids? Do you know how many parents send their kids to school when they still have symptoms because they simply can't afford to take off of work that many days to care for their kids? And those kids pass it on to the next kid? My kids practice all those things, and 2 of them STILL got the flu this year, most likely H1N1 is what they are recovering from. Luckily they will be fine. You can do all those things and STILL get the flu or any other illness. Though I am pretty irritated with the media just like you right now for all of the misinformation being tossed around. They are doing more harm than good.

[StevePerryHair]

The flu shot is not worthless. It is a cumulative shot and as long as I have a child who is high risk due to asthma, my children will receive the shot. There I no true evidence backed up by the medical community to prove the autism link. More children throughout history died of diseases or suffered from the after affects of diseases before the time of vaccines than do now from side effects. We are all of the vaccinated generation so we didn't have to see kids stricken with polio wearing braces for the rest of their lives. Or lose a sibling due to pertussis. Why do you think child mortality rates are so much lower today??? Why do you think that swine flu back then killed SO many? It was pre-vaccine and it was before tamiflu and it was before they had ways to treat people as they do now with modern medicine. As generations go on people will not know what it was like in those days before vaccines. Maybe people who are refusing their babies vaccinated should be sent to some 3rd world countries who don't have access to see just how horrible it is and how many children in the world die needlessly when a simple vaccine could have saved their lives. The benefits of vaccines FAR outweigh the risks.

SPH, your analogy of third world countries is laughable, and you know it. More scare tactics, which have nothing to do with the reality of this toxic cocktail. The flu shot IS worthless. Totally. Period. End.Of.Sentence. It was developed a year before the swine flu arrived.

There is plenty of evidence about the autism connection. It is being surpressed by the medical community. What do you seriously think would be the result if the truth came out?????

Kill yourself with it if you wish. Be my guest. Most of what your spouting here is pure shit. You're taking all your information from government websites. DUH That would be like putting the Loons in charge of Steve Perry's house.

I don't need to go to government websites. I can say you are getting your info from wackjobs who call themselves medical researchers. I use common sense. I use the evidence that we see from what life was like before vaccines to what life is like now. More lives have been saved from vaccines than harmed and THAT is fact. I don't think I could live with myself if one of my kids died from an illness and it was because I neglected to get them a simple vaccine that could have saved their lives. Autism is a mystery. There are other theories on it's causes too. Autism is not the only medical mystery in this world. My kids would have been at a much larger risk to die or be harmed in this world without their vaccines than their risk for autism.

[Jana]

Flu shots are dumb. They are collectively killing our ability to fight this virus the old fashioned way...and at the same time contributing to increasingly serious strains of the virus.


You could do alot worse than NOT getting these fucking things injected into your body...

Again....your opinion.

Do you also think that MMR, Dtap and the other childhood vaccines are dumb too and killing our ability to fight off those diseases?

You are wrong about flu shots contributing to the increasingly serious strain of the virus. Overuse of antibiotics and not taking them correctly is what has lead to these mutated viruses. Period.

You are wrong. Frank is correct. The information is out there to back up what he and others are saying. I guess it just depends on who and what you decide to read and watch on the telly.

Loved your disingenuous cocktail mix of apples and oranges. It's a fact that since the 90's, autism rates have risen to alarming rates in our kids. The culprit could be mercury (thimerosol) which is not used in Japan. The H1N1 vaccine was manufactured a year before there was any mention of swine flu. It is a toxic cocktail of live viruses, animal pus, and various other toxicities. The vaccine is worse than the flu itself. The children and people who have died from this flu had comprised immune systems to begin with. The swine flu vaccine will contain 25 mcg of thimerosal. It is untested and unsafe. BigPharma contributed $1.4 million to Obama. He has direct ties to them. Connect the dots. Period

I've watched a lot of shows on the link, and there is no absolute proof linking vaccinations in young children, and I agree with SPH about the benefits of the vaccines. But the statistics are now one in every 100 children has autism (that is the autism spectrum), with the higher percentage of those children being boys. That is absolutely frightening, beyond alarming, and something is going on.

[StevePerryHair]

Flu shots are dumb. They are collectively killing our ability to fight this virus the old fashioned way...and at the same time contributing to increasingly serious strains of the virus.


You could do alot worse than NOT getting these fucking things injected into your body...

Again....your opinion.

Do you also think that MMR, Dtap and the other childhood vaccines are dumb too and killing our ability to fight off those diseases?

You are wrong about flu shots contributing to the increasingly serious strain of the virus. Overuse of antibiotics and not taking them correctly is what has lead to these mutated viruses. Period.

You are wrong. Frank is correct. The information is out there to back up what he and others are saying. I guess it just depends on who and what you decide to read and watch on the telly.

Loved your disingenuous cocktail mix of apples and oranges. It's a fact that since the 90's, autism rates have risen to alarming rates in our kids. The culprit could be mercury (thimerosol) which is not used in Japan. The H1N1 vaccine was manufactured a year before there was any mention of swine flu. It is a toxic cocktail of live viruses, animal pus, and various other toxicities. The vaccine is worse than the flu itself. The children and people who have died from this flu had comprised immune systems to begin with. The swine flu vaccine will contain 25 mcg of thimerosal. It is untested and unsafe. BigPharma contributed $1.4 million to Obama. He has direct ties to them. Connect the dots. Period

I've watched a lot of shows on the link, and there is no absolute proof linking vaccinations in young children, but the statistics are now one in every 100 children has autism (that is the autism spectrum), with the higher percentage of those children being boys. That is absolutely frightening, beyond alarming, and something is going on.

I have to wonder though if there was more autism in the old days but they just weren't diagnosed right. They didn't have a name for it back then, so how could they have formed a statistic like that? Those kids were just labeled as slow or different or mentally handicapped. Maybe even ADD. That's happened with illnesses too. I mean they think AIDS existed way before they diagnosed the first cases but they didn't have a name for it because no one had discovered the virus yet. They just knew that something was happening to people where their immune systems stopped working. So those people never made it into the statistics.

[mikemarrs]

here where i live i went to the CBS website and they took a vote.68 percent said they would not let their kids get the shot.32 percent said they would.by this point it looks like quite a few people are not sure on these vaccines.i've seen quite a few interviews where people said they felt like something was telling them not to get it.

[yak]

The flu shot is not worthless. It is a cumulative shot and as long as I have a child who is high risk due to asthma, my children will receive the shot. There I no true evidence backed up by the medical community to prove the autism link. More children throughout history died of diseases or suffered from the after affects of diseases before the time of vaccines than do now from side effects. We are all of the vaccinated generation so we didn't have to see kids stricken with polio wearing braces for the rest of their lives. Or lose a sibling due to pertussis. Why do you think child mortality rates are so much lower today??? Why do you think that swine flu back then killed SO many? It was pre-vaccine and it was before tamiflu and it was before they had ways to treat people as they do now with modern medicine. As generations go on people will not know what it was like in those days before vaccines. Maybe people who are refusing their babies vaccinated should be sent to some 3rd world countries who don't have access to see just how horrible it is and how many children in the world die needlessly when a simple vaccine could have saved their lives. The benefits of vaccines FAR outweigh the risks.

SPH, your analogy of third world countries is laughable, and you know it. More scare tactics, which have nothing to do with the reality of this toxic cocktail. The flu shot IS worthless. Totally. Period. End.Of.Sentence. It was developed a year before the swine flu arrived.

There is plenty of evidence about the autism connection. It is being surpressed by the medical community. What do you seriously think would be the result if the truth came out?????

Kill yourself with it if you wish. Be my guest. Most of what your spouting here is pure shit. You're taking all your information from government websites. DUH That would be like putting the Loons in charge of Steve Perry's house.

I don't need to go to government websites. I can say you are getting your info from wackjobs who call themselves medical researchers. I use common sense. I use the evidence that we see from what life was like before vaccines to what life is like now. More lives have been saved from vaccines than harmed and THAT is fact. I don't think I could live with myself if one of my kids died from an illness and it was because I neglected to get them a simple vaccine that could have saved their lives. Autism is a mystery. There are other theories on it's causes too. Autism is not the only medical mystery in this world. My kids would have been at a much larger risk to die or be harmed in this world without their vaccines than their risk for autism.

So where do you go for your information? Because you are spouting the mantra that's out there. That said, I suppose you think this toxic cocktail is beneficial for pregnant women. The Gov't has exempted EVERYBODY from liability if something goes wrong.

Pardon me; I have read things that have documentation attached to back up these facts. Don't put me in your little box. I have read both sides, and I can think for myself. I happen to know the truth. Carry on with your little life, and put a sock in it for tonight. YAWN

[Jana]

Flu shots are dumb. They are collectively killing our ability to fight this virus the old fashioned way...and at the same time contributing to increasingly serious strains of the virus.


You could do alot worse than NOT getting these fucking things injected into your body...

Again....your opinion.

Do you also think that MMR, Dtap and the other childhood vaccines are dumb too and killing our ability to fight off those diseases?

You are wrong about flu shots contributing to the increasingly serious strain of the virus. Overuse of antibiotics and not taking them correctly is what has lead to these mutated viruses. Period.

You are wrong. Frank is correct. The information is out there to back up what he and others are saying. I guess it just depends on who and what you decide to read and watch on the telly.

Loved your disingenuous cocktail mix of apples and oranges. It's a fact that since the 90's, autism rates have risen to alarming rates in our kids. The culprit could be mercury (thimerosol) which is not used in Japan. The H1N1 vaccine was manufactured a year before there was any mention of swine flu. It is a toxic cocktail of live viruses, animal pus, and various other toxicities. The vaccine is worse than the flu itself. The children and people who have died from this flu had comprised immune systems to begin with. The swine flu vaccine will contain 25 mcg of thimerosal. It is untested and unsafe. BigPharma contributed $1.4 million to Obama. He has direct ties to them. Connect the dots. Period

I've watched a lot of shows on the link, and there is no absolute proof linking vaccinations in young children, but the statistics are now one in every 100 children has autism (that is the autism spectrum), with the higher percentage of those children being boys. That is absolutely frightening, beyond alarming, and something is going on.

I have to wonder though if there was more autism in the old days but they just weren't diagnosed right. They didn't have a name for it back then, so how could they have formed a statistic like that? Those kids were just labeled as slow or different or mentally handicapped. Maybe even ADD. That's happened with illnesses too. I mean they think AIDS existed way before they diagnosed the first cases but they didn't have a name for it because no one had discovered the virus yet. They just knew that something was happening to people where their immune systems stopped working. So those people never made it into the statistics.

I'm sure that's a component of it.

[Rick]

The flu shot is not worthless. It is a cumulative shot and as long as I have a child who is high risk due to asthma, my children will receive the shot. There I no true evidence backed up by the medical community to prove the autism link. More children throughout history died of diseases or suffered from the after affects of diseases before the time of vaccines than do now from side effects. We are all of the vaccinated generation so we didn't have to see kids stricken with polio wearing braces for the rest of their lives. Or lose a sibling due to pertussis. Why do you think child mortality rates are so much lower today??? Why do you think that swine flu back then killed SO many? It was pre-vaccine and it was before tamiflu and it was before they had ways to treat people as they do now with modern medicine. As generations go on people will not know what it was like in those days before vaccines. Maybe people who are refusing their babies vaccinated should be sent to some 3rd world countries who don't have access to see just how horrible it is and how many children in the world die needlessly when a simple vaccine could have saved their lives. The benefits of vaccines FAR outweigh the risks.

SPH, your analogy of third world countries is laughable, and you know it. More scare tactics, which have nothing to do with the reality of this toxic cocktail. The flu shot IS worthless. Totally. Period. End.Of.Sentence. It was developed a year before the swine flu arrived.

There is plenty of evidence about the autism connection. It is being surpressed by the medical community. What do you seriously think would be the result if the truth came out?????

Kill yourself with it if you wish. Be my guest. Most of what your spouting here is pure shit. You're taking all your information from government websites. DUH That would be like putting the Loons in charge of Steve Perry's house.

I don't need to go to government websites. I can say you are getting your info from wackjobs who call themselves medical researchers. I use common sense. I use the evidence that we see from what life was like before vaccines to what life is like now. More lives have been saved from vaccines than harmed and THAT is fact. I don't think I could live with myself if one of my kids died from an illness and it was because I neglected to get them a simple vaccine that could have saved their lives. Autism is a mystery. There are other theories on it's causes too. Autism is not the only medical mystery in this world. My kids would have been at a much larger risk to die or be harmed in this world without their vaccines than their risk for autism.

So where do you go for your information? Because you are spouting the mantra that's out there. That said, I suppose you think this toxic cocktail is beneficial for pregnant women. The Gov't has exempted EVERYBODY from liability if something goes wrong.

Pardon me; I have read things that have documentation attached to back up these facts. Don't put me in your little box. I have read both sides, and I can think for myself. I happen to know the truth. Carry on with your little life, and put a sock in it for tonight. YAWN

Dude. SPH would never post information harmful to anyone. She's a friend of mine, who I'd trust with my life, and that of my child. She works in the medical field and is exposed to the best medical knowledge available.

[Luvsaugeri]

You CAN NOT get the flu from a flu shot!!! It is IMPOSSIBLE!! It is a KILLED virus filled with dead PARTS of virus. Just enough to give your body an immune response to make antibodies. Can you have a side effect?? Can this immune response make you feel weird? Possibly though rare. Can it give you FULL BLOWN flu as Dr. Lebron has described????? NO WAY!!!!!!

There are rare cases where children have gotten polio from the old oral polio vaccine they stopped using. It was a LIVE oral virus!!! The flu SHOT is never ever ever live!!!!!

There, now I feel much better

Untrue! H1N1 contains several live viruses. Nobody can be held liable for any damages done by this vaccine. That's a red flag right there.

You can inject that toxic garbage into your body all you want. Just don't tell me I have to. Because I will NOT.

And kindly stop spreading falsehoods to people who legitimately want to know facts. You must be part of the "industry."

Talk about spreading false truths!! You say that all the kids and young people that have died have had compromised immune systems. That is absolutley incorrect.

And no one is telling you that you HAVE to take the vaccine. I could care less if you take it or not. I don't see the need to come in here and attack people and have such anger when others don't agree with you.;

[mikemarrs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM

[Tracie555]

I would not allow my daughter to be vaccinated at school. IMO, that is a personal responsibility of the parents. Besides, my daughter is allergic to eggs, and I was told by a doctor that all of the flu/pneumonia shots contain egg albumin. Good topic, there are many interesting views here

[yak]

Well, I'm sure you won't be offended if I take the advice of a respected Infectious Disease MD over your advice.

lol...it's all good, Kelly. I just think our bodies and their natural resistances are the best ways to fight the flu. Additionally, I think a premium should be put on the message of keeping your immune system humming by eating right, exercising, wearing proper clothing, getting proper rest and practicing proper hygiene. Those things are better than any flu shot.

Easier said than done Dan. Have you ever been in a classroom full of kids? Do you know how many parents send their kids to school when they still have symptoms because they simply can't afford to take off of work that many days to care for their kids? And those kids pass it on to the next kid? My kids practice all those things, and 2 of them STILL got the flu this year, most likely H1N1 is what they are recovering from. Luckily they will be fine. You can do all those things and STILL get the flu or any other illness. Though I am pretty irritated with the media just like you right now for all of the misinformation being tossed around. They are doing more harm than good.

THAT is a blatant cop-out. It's a parent's responsibility to take care of their own child. That includes keeping said child at home when sick so as not to infect the well children who go to school, and whose parents would keep them at home should they become ill. It's also the responsibility of the school and the school nurse to contact the parents and see that the ill child is removed from the school.

[Arkansas]

... It's a fact that since the 90's, autism rates have risen to alarming rates in our kids. ...

Have autism rates really risen, or has the diagnosis of autism is all that has risen?
Think about it. The self-perpetuating 'industry' could be to blame for this also.


later~

[yak]

You CAN NOT get the flu from a flu shot!!! It is IMPOSSIBLE!! It is a KILLED virus filled with dead PARTS of virus. Just enough to give your body an immune response to make antibodies. Can you have a side effect?? Can this immune response make you feel weird? Possibly though rare. Can it give you FULL BLOWN flu as Dr. Lebron has described????? NO WAY!!!!!!

There are rare cases where children have gotten polio from the old oral polio vaccine they stopped using. It was a LIVE oral virus!!! The flu SHOT is never ever ever live!!!!!

There, now I feel much better

Untrue! H1N1 contains several live viruses. Nobody can be held liable for any damages done by this vaccine. That's a red flag right there.

You can inject that toxic garbage into your body all you want. Just don't tell me I have to. Because I will NOT.

And kindly stop spreading falsehoods to people who legitimately want to know facts. You must be part of the "industry."

First of all, I could CARE LESS if you get the H1N1 vaccine or not. I don't think any adult should be forced to do anything they don't want to. That's not what my issue was and that was NOT the point of the things I stated.

James lebron said that HE got the H1N1 flu from the SHOT he received and it is FACT that the H1N1 SHOT does NOT CONTAIN live components. I have no idea where you get your info, but it's WRONG. You maybe are confusing it with the nasal vaccine they are also giving to some people. The SHOT is NOT a live virus. But THANK YOU for misinforming people Dr. Yak And I am not part of any industry. I have no idea what industry you are even referring to.

First, you seem hell bent on convincing everybody here that the experimental and untested flu shot for which you cannot claim any liability should something go wrong, is something everybody needs. You exhibit the subtlety of a boulder. And, yes, it does contain live viruses. And NO, I do not go to wackjob websites for information. I have already stated that I read both sides. So don't call ME a wackjob, OK?

Second, you seem to have a craw in your cap concerning one of the greatest B'Ball players EVER. Why do you keep bring up LeBron? Do you think it's ok for Obama to dictate this flu vaccine, but LeBron cannot speak his opinion??? Because LeBron has a right to say whatever he wants to as it pertains to his own health. Certain people would like everybody to become wards of a dictatorial state, and that comes from both sides of the aisle. Ain't gonna happen. People need to know the truth, and then decide for themselves what THEY want, not what you or anybody else thinks they should have. All they have to be aware of is that they cannot hold anybody liable should something go awry.

Thirdly, I refer to the medical "industry" and your BFF has confirmed in another post that you indeed are part of it.

It's very clear to me that you don't want a debate. You are just pretending that you do. Unconvincingly, I might add.

I will stand by everything I have written here. Be careful who you call a wackjob next time---you are the one with the name "StevePerryHair."

[The Sushi Hunter]

lol...it's all good, Kelly. I just think our bodies and their natural resistances are the best ways to fight the flu. Additionally, I think a premium should be put on the message of keeping your immune system humming by eating right, exercising, wearing proper clothing, getting proper rest and practicing proper hygiene. Those things are better than any flu shot.

150% agree!

[yak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM

Thanks for posting that. Why did she take it in the first place? Was she basically forced, do you know? And of course, there is nobody she and her family can hold liable, and a beautiful young girl with a bright future is now ruined. "Rare" side effect or not, and barring a miracle, this young girl's life has come to a standstill.

Of course the FDA will say the vaccine had no problems. They are complicit in all of this. Now you need to duck and get out of the way of the scuds that will be fired at you for posting another truth.

[yak]

James lebron said that HE got the H1N1 flu from the SHOT he received and it is FACT that the H1N1 SHOT does NOT CONTAIN live components. I have no idea where you get your info, but it's WRONG. You maybe are confusing it with the nasal vaccine they are also giving to some people. The SHOT is NOT a live virus. But THANK YOU for misinforming people Dr. Yak And I am not part of any industry. I have no idea what industry you are even referring to.

It's LeBron James, greateast B'Ball player EVER! And one of the good guys. At least get the name right, Dr. PerryHair.