You'll love this...I know you will ;)

[SultanOfSwing]

Jason needs to tell Arnel that shaving his facial hair and having his eyebrows trimmed aren't very manly

He looks & sounds awesome, dude.

I agree he sounds good, and looks better without all that greasy hair and pubic growth on his face, he looks dirty on the journey vidoes, i like his apperence much better here, just cause he sounds like perry doesnt mean his doesnt have to look like him

I completely agree with you Stevie, I like his current look, very clean. Before, I don't see him as a natural rocker with all these long hair and dirty looks, everything looks fake to me plus it's not 70's anymore. All I see now is the natural Arnel, very cool.

[Enigma869]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting but why the hell is this dude even on some Filipino TV show singing a Bonnie Tyler/Bryan Adams song? Doesn't he understand that being the lead singer of Journey requires you to rest your voice when Neal isn't out there trying to perform at any venue that will have him and that he can sell 6 tickets to? It should be another 18 months or so before we start hearing about Arnel's "voice problems"!

[perryswoman]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting but why the hell is this dude even on some Filipino TV show singing a Bonnie Tyler/Bryan Adams song? Doesn't he understand that being the lead singer of Journey requires you to rest your voice when Neal isn't out there trying to perform at any venue that will have him and that he can sell 6 tickets to? It should be another 18 months or so before we start hearing about Arnel's "voice problems"!

That is some funny stuff lol.

[SultanOfSwing]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting

I should have not quoted Stevew and Jason

[Ehwmatt]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting but why the hell is this dude even on some Filipino TV show singing a Bonnie Tyler/Bryan Adams song? Doesn't he understand that being the lead singer of Journey requires you to rest your voice when Neal isn't out there trying to perform at any venue that will have him and that he can sell 6 tickets to? It should be another 18 months or so before we start hearing about Arnel's "voice problems"!

Not to mention it doesn't do much to help shed the "karaoke singer" image. Jesus, write a song or two and perform it, how's that for a concept? Neal and Arnel should show up and drop two new songs that they wrote together on that thing they are doing.

[twinklestar]

one step forward..two steps back...is Arnel confused about who he really is?..i know i am...

[slucero]

you know... all the talk about his new "look" isn't what concerns me... and I'm surprised none of you have picked up on this yet...

Its him covering songs and forcing that rasp into his voice as he imitates other singers voices (like Brian Adams)... that's a serious NO-NO as a singer... if Arnel hopes to maintain that clear upper register he has to avoid doing this... or he will damage his vocal cords.

[Monker]

some of the decisions he has made over the years as it relates to "his band" tells me that "his band" was in FAR better hands when Perry was steering the ship!

Perry steering the ship was during ROR, which led to nearly a decade of nothing. Perry in Journey means there is no Journey at all.

Neal steering the ship has led to a rotating door of singers, a comic book of lies and deciet, and not REALLY giving a damn about the fans, and doing it all for the money and not the music.

Herbie steering the ship led to Journey being on top of the world with a #1 album, and the most popular rock band in America...and EVERYBODY, the fans, the band, and Herbie, being into it for the music.

Herbie was the best leader of this band...NONE of the members should have tried to captain the ship.

[Monker]

But if you have the ability to read, you'll see Neal's name is on a lot of the writing credits

Sure it is, but at the end of the day, Schon isn't the voice behind the music!

You're wrong.

"There are two voices in the band...they either either dance together, moving in and out...or they don't." -- Steve Perry.

[Monker]

K.... I respect and agree with all of that.... it just came off differently in your earlier posts. I have nothing but huge respect for the talents of the Big Three: Steve's voice, Jon's writing talents, and Neal's musical aptitude... but I'll readily admit that the Voice is the greatest of that Holy Trinity. I'll definitely own more of Steve's solo work than any of Neal's!

Whatever....There is precious little Perry solo matierial to buy - especialy compared to Neal's....or even Jonathan's.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Not to mention it doesn't do much to help shed the "karaoke singer" image.

Ditto.
What is the deal with that affected Adams rasp?
That is beneath what I expect from the singer of Journey.
Now I'm wondering how much of his Perry voice is similarly a put-on.

[Jana]

some of the decisions he has made over the years as it relates to "his band" tells me that "his band" was in FAR better hands when Perry was steering the ship!

Perry steering the ship was during ROR, which led to nearly a decade of nothing. Perry in Journey means there is no Journey at all.

Neal steering the ship has led to a rotating door of singers, a comic book of lies and deciet, and not REALLY giving a damn about the fans, and doing it all for the money and not the music.

Herbie steering the ship led to Journey being on top of the world with a #1 album, and the most popular rock band in America...and EVERYBODY, the fans, the band, and Herbie, being into it for the music.

Herbie was the best leader of this band...NONE of the members should have tried to captain the ship.

LOL, I did enjoy your post.

People really lose sight that Neal had Steve Augeri with them for ten years and probably should have parted ways several years b/f he left, but didn't, even b/f Tapegate fiasco started, b/c of loyalty probably, but his voice couldn't handle the touring singing the Journey catalogue many years b/f. So I'm tired of the revolving door story. True, b/f anyone says anything, they should have taken time off when touring for Augeri.

Then they were desperate and hired Soto and realized they made a mistake quickly and backtracked on that. He was a fill-in singer as far as I'm concerned during a tour when Augeri left.

I can't disagree with you that he does a lot of it for the money, but don't discount that he loves performing and that is the biggest part. He doesn't know anything else and has stated it.

[Monker]

Holy crap...He looks like a combination of Michael Jackson and that Lambert dude. Scary.

Jason needs to tell Arnel that shaving his facial hair and having his eyebrows trimmed aren't very manly

He looks & sounds awesome, dude.

I agree he sounds good, and looks better without all that greasy hair and pubic growth on his face, he looks dirty on the journey vidoes, i like his apperence much better here, just cause he sounds like perry doesnt mean his doesnt have to look like him

I completely agree with you Stevie, I like his current look, very clean. Before, I don't see him as a natural rocker with all these long hair and dirty looks, everything looks fake to me plus it's not 70's anymore. All I see now is the natural Arnel, very cool.

[Ehwmatt]

Not to mention it doesn't do much to help shed the "karaoke singer" image.

Ditto.
What is the deal with that affected Adams rasp?
That is beneath what I expect from the singer of Journey.
Now I'm wondering how much of his Perry voice is similarly a put-on.

I just think it looks ridiculous for the LEAD SINGER of Journey to be out there covering and singing songs of Journey's 80s counterparts in the offseason between tours. Just really cheap.

[Lula]

so this a tv show in the philippines? maybe he committed long ago? maybe he's doing it as a favor? whatever his reasons, I gotta go with the idea that is does not serve his or the journey image well. as for the look, i think he looks fine, but less makeup would be better.

[Jana]

But if you have the ability to read, you'll see Neal's name is on a lot of the writing credits

Sure it is, but at the end of the day, Schon isn't the voice behind the music!

You're wrong.

"There are two voices in the band...they either either dance together, moving in and out...or they don't." -- Steve Perry.

Thank you, Steve Perry, for stating the obvious to many of us.

[Michigan Girl]

But if you have the ability to read, you'll see Neal's name is on a lot of the writing credits

Sure it is, but at the end of the day, Schon isn't the voice behind the music!

You're wrong.

"There are two voices in the band...they either either dance together, moving in and out...or they don't." -- Steve Perry.

Thank you, Steve Perry, for stating the obvious to many of us.

Dude doesn't know what he's talking about...

[Escape81]

K.... I respect and agree with all of that.... it just came off differently in your earlier posts. I have nothing but huge respect for the talents of the Big Three: Steve's voice, Jon's writing talents, and Neal's musical aptitude... but I'll readily admit that the Voice is the greatest of that Holy Trinity. I'll definitely own more of Steve's solo work than any of Neal's!

Whatever....There is precious little Perry solo matierial to buy - especialy compared to Neal's....or even Jonathan's.

"Whatever?" I'm just saying I prefer great vocals to great musicianship..... I'm not big into grunge or death metal or anything like that. But obviously a GREAT band needs BOTH and Journey provides!

I'm a huge fan of Neal and Jonathan too. But their work in Journey.... same for Mr. P, I don't own a lot of his solo work.... very selective.

[Enigma869]

Whatever....There is precious little Perry solo matierial to buy - especialy compared to Neal's....or even Jonathan's.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Since when does quantity trump quality? Listen...I'm the last guy who will ever claim Perry's solo stuff is as good as his material with Journey. That said, just one of Perry's solo albums was FAR more successful than EVERY album that Schon and Cain recorded, combined!

[stevew2]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting

I should have not quoted Stevew and Jason

i dont give a shit, i just like them bouncey titties in your avatar,i could have a ball with them juggies

[perryswoman]

you know... all the talk about his new "look" isn't what concerns me... and I'm surprised none of you have picked up on this yet...

Its him covering songs and forcing that rasp into his voice as he imitates other singers voices (like Brian Adams)... that's a serious NO-NO as a singer... if Arnel hopes to maintain that clear upper register he has to avoid doing this... or he will damage his vocal cords.

I DID pick up on this and wondered wtf? Is that not going to hurt his vocal cords with all the rasp? Then again I wondered, maybe all the rasp because he's already damaged his vocal cords. I like arnel, I really do but I see a train wreck coming in the next 2 years. Mark my words!!

[Monker]

Whatever....There is precious little Perry solo matierial to buy - especialy compared to Neal's....or even Jonathan's.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Since when does quantity trump quality? Listen...I'm the last guy who will ever claim Perry's solo stuff is as good as his material with Journey. That said, just one of Perry's solo albums was FAR more successful than EVERY album that Schon and Cain recorded, combined!

And, you are a moron if you think 'success' = quality. Even then, Perry's only 'success' in solo albums was Street Talk. Everything else that followed was mediocre in both sales AND quality, IMO.

And, in the context of the post I was replying to, the quantity was SPECIFICALY what she was talking. Fact is, Perry simply has released hardly anything outside of Journey. Even Jonathan has five or six solo albums. So, if someone REALLY cares about these guys, they will own FAR fewer Perry albums then Neal and Jonathan's...If not, they really don't give a damn about the other guys or their careers outside of Journey.

[RocknRoll]

you know... all the talk about his new "look" isn't what concerns me... and I'm surprised none of you have picked up on this yet...

Its him covering songs and forcing that rasp into his voice as he imitates other singers voices (like Brian Adams)... that's a serious NO-NO as a singer... if Arnel hopes to maintain that clear upper register he has to avoid doing this... or he will damage his vocal cords.

I DID pick up on this and wondered wtf? Is that not going to hurt his vocal cords with all the rasp? Then again I wondered, maybe all the rasp because he's already damaged his vocal cords. I like arnel, I really do but I see a train wreck coming in the next 2 years. Mark my words!!

Personally, I think it's a tough position for AP. He's the lead vocalist for Journey and probably shouldn't be doing covers of other artists. yet he can't sing Journey without the band (which I totally agree with).

But I believe he wants to make a name for himself in PI, since he will have a life post-Journey. I agree, his best bet is to write/sing some original music. Luckily Christmas is coming and AP should be great on holiday tunes for TV.

[Esc]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting but why the hell is this dude even on some Filipino TV show singing a Bonnie Tyler/Bryan Adams song? Doesn't he understand that being the lead singer of Journey requires you to rest your voice when Neal isn't out there trying to perform at any venue that will have him and that he can sell 6 tickets to? It should be another 18 months or so before we start hearing about Arnel's "voice problems"!

Arnel, as much as a humble guy he is, seems he doesnt care.
even his die hard fans are blinded and/or deafened by his sudden surge of popularity in the local media.
i was even stomped upon here by just merely bringing up his extra curricular activities outside Journey.
little do they know how important it is to take care of that golden goose.

i read somewhere about arnel's attitude towards being a Journey lead singer.
somewhere around:

"Ahh, yes, I'm the Lead singer of Journey...can you buy me a burger?"

[slucero]

you know... all the talk about his new "look" isn't what concerns me... and I'm surprised none of you have picked up on this yet...

Its him covering songs and forcing that rasp into his voice as he imitates other singers voices (like Brian Adams)... that's a serious NO-NO as a singer... if Arnel hopes to maintain that clear upper register he has to avoid doing this... or he will damage his vocal cords.

I DID pick up on this and wondered wtf? Is that not going to hurt his vocal cords with all the rasp? Then again I wondered, maybe all the rasp because he's already damaged his vocal cords. I like arnel, I really do but I see a train wreck coming in the next 2 years. Mark my words!!

Personally, I think it's a tough position for AP. He's the lead vocalist for Journey and probably shouldn't be doing covers of other artists. yet he can't sing Journey without the band (which I totally agree with).

But I believe he wants to make a name for himself in PI, since he will have a life post-Journey. I agree, his best bet is to write/sing some original music. Luckily Christmas is coming and AP should be great on holiday tunes for TV.

actually I think that's all good and fine... but its pretty well known that if you are a singer and you not "born" with a raspy voice, then adding rasp "for effect" will ultimately damage voice. I don't think Arnel was born with a a naturally raspy voice (think Rod Stewart), so my point is still the same.. he WILL damage his voice by making it do something that is not natural for it. It may be bad for Journey, but my point was never what was bad for Journey... if he continues he will damage his voice and limit what he can sing, period.

With good technique Arnel can sing as much as he wants when the band is "off-tour". But he must sing material that fits his voice, and he also has to stop altering his voice for those covers.... he has to sing in his own voice, which will limit the damage that can be done to it.

[SultanOfSwing]

Listen...all this gay Arnel haircut talk is extremely fucking riveting

I should have not quoted Stevew and Jason

i dont give a shit, i just like them bouncey titties in your avatar,i could have a ball with them juggies

Good for you Stevie, were you dreaming of my av last night?

[Don]

Journey has the best selling Music DVD in the US and yet at the same time, they're singer is dressed up like a bad Adam Lambert impersonator, singing cover songs from the eighties on third world TV.

I fucking love it.

[SultanOfSwing]

Journey has the best selling Music DVD in the US and yet at the same time, they're singer is dressed up like a bad Adam Lambert impersonator, singing cover songs from the eighties on third world TV.

I fucking love it.

Hmm. welcome back. How's PI?

[Don]

Journey has the best selling Music DVD in the US and yet at the same time, they're singer is dressed up like a bad Adam Lambert impersonator, singing cover songs from the eighties on third world TV.

I fucking love it.

Hmm. welcome back. How's PI?

Terrible. Any progress made under Aquino and Ramos has completely evaporated under Erap and now, Magcapal, and they can't blame us gringos this time.
I had to do all my business in Manila as Baguio was pretty much inaccessible. I ended up breaking even as current events devalued my original deal. A week in Boracay and I had enough. The old lady is still there but I needed to get back to work. Playing in the Third World is definitely a young man's game (unless your running the bars and looking for 12 year old strippers).
God Fucking Bless America.

P.S. The most popular Journey song on Filipino Radio = Open Arms by Mariah Carey.

[SultanOfSwing]

Journey has the best selling Music DVD in the US and yet at the same time, they're singer is dressed up like a bad Adam Lambert impersonator, singing cover songs from the eighties on third world TV.

I fucking love it.

Hmm. welcome back. How's PI?

Terrible. Any progress made under Aquino and Ramos has completely evaporated under Erap and now, Magcapal, and they can't blame us gringos this time.
I had to do all my business in Manila as Baguio was pretty much inaccessible. I ended up breaking even as current events devalued my original deal. A week in Boracay and I had enough. The old lady is still there but I needed to get back to work. Playing in the Third World is definitely a young man's game (unless your running the bars and looking for 12 year old strippers).
God Fucking Bless America.

P.S. The most popular Journey song on Filipino Radio = Open Arms by Mariah Carey.

Erap was the one who kicked out Americans during his presidency. When Clark Air Force base was destroyed during Mt. Pinatubo eruptions, the US government didn't renew their lease on these 2 giant bases due to large damage plus Estrada's unwillingness to cooperate with the US govt. I agree with you, Philippine economy was excellent during Ramos' presidency plus a huge support by Clinton's administration during his time.
I went to Boracay in 2007, and I really enjoyed my vacation there. We went island tour, snorkeling and bar hopping. I was surprised it's really a beautiful island and everything is accessible to every restaurant, shopping centers and even ATM's. We stayed at Sea Wind Resort located at Station 1.
I heard there was a mudslide in Pangasinan 2 weeks ago right after the storm that's why it's inaccessible. If you're coming from Manila going to Baguio, you'll going to pass by this place.