Revelation re-enters at #63 on Billboard's Top 200

[Tito]

Revelation is down to #136. But still charting. 39 total weeks on the chart. I believe it is the #18 on the Independent chart.

Also, Greatest Hits is up to #9 on the Catalog albums chart. The first non-Michael Jackson or non-Beatles album on the chart. It's been on that chart for 832 weeks, which if my math is correct is exactly 16 years.

So much for the false theory that people are buying Revelation for the Greatest Hits (disc 2).

[lights1961]

Journey had oprah help to rechart...

Kansas DVD debuts at #5 with no help...

[Michigan Girl]

Revelation is down to #136. But still charting. 39 total weeks on the chart. I believe it is the #18 on the Independent chart.

Also, Greatest Hits is up to #9 on the Catalog albums chart. The first non-Michael Jackson or non-Beatles album on the chart. It's been on that chart for 832 weeks, which if my math is correct is exactly 16 years.

So much for the false theory that people are buying Revelation for the Greatest Hits (disc 2).

It doesn't take a genius to figure out GH has staying power ~CLASSIC~ Congrats Journey!!...it's the reason
the band is still performing today!!!

Why would anyone with sense do that?!?!?

[Tito]

Journey had oprah help to rechart...

Kansas DVD debuts at #5 with no help...

Revelation recharted with the help of (mostly) Oprah and the release of Live in Manilla. Congrats to Kansas on their (happily surprised) debut. I may need to check it out. I like Kansas.

[Tito]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out GH has staying power ~CLASSIC~ Congrats Journey!!...it's the reason
the band is still performing today!!!

100% agreed.

Why would anyone with sense do that?!?!?

Don't ask me. Ask one of the deniers/naysayers.

[Enigma869]

Don't ask me. Ask one of the deniers/naysayers.

If Journey in 2009 is relevant to you, then it really doesn't matter what any "deniers/naysayers" are saying. That said, bragging about Journey being 86th on a chart and now in the top 150 on a music chart is like pounding your chest bragging that your football team finished in 30th place! Hell, Elvis probably has music in the top 150 and the fucker has been dead for 30 fucking years

[Don]

Michael Buble made the most of his Oprah appearance, moving over 100,000 copies of his new album in only three days after being on her show. He album is now #1 for the second week running. To be fair, the guy has been in the top ten touring the last few years, so he has created his own exposure to great a degree.

[Tito]

Don't ask me. Ask one of the deniers/naysayers.

If Journey in 2009 is relevant to you, then it really doesn't matter what any "deniers/naysayers" are saying. That said, bragging about Journey being 86th on a chart and now in the top 150 on a music chart is like pounding your chest bragging that your football team finished in 30th place! Hell, Elvis probably has music in the top 150 and the fucker has been dead for 30 fucking years

Pay attention to the discussion. All I was doing this week and last week when I started this thread was just stating fact and bringing info to the class. I wasn't bragging about anything. All I said was Revelation recharted, nothing more and nothing less. As far as the denier comment, that was simply in regard to some people claiming Revelation sold only or mostly because of disc 2.

But, since you brought it up, I'll take the bait: Are they as relevant as they were in 1981 -no. Are they more relevant today as they've been in 20 years, I would say yes. A #1 DVD, #9 catalog album (with the likes of MJ and Beatles), most downloaded song in history (before you chime in, yes it's a 28 year old song but the point is its popularity then and now), and a recent appearance on Oprah (despite how much I hate that show) are recent evidence of that. Not to mention the two years of successful attendance figures and the Sopranos. Obviously, they aren't on the daily entertainment shows and they ain't Bon Jovi, but I wouldn't say no one isn't paying attention either. They're doing well, nothing more nothing less.

[Don]

Don't ask me. Ask one of the deniers/naysayers.

If Journey in 2009 is relevant to you, then it really doesn't matter what any "deniers/naysayers" are saying. That said, bragging about Journey being 86th on a chart and now in the top 150 on a music chart is like pounding your chest bragging that your football team finished in 30th place! Hell, Elvis probably has music in the top 150 and the fucker has been dead for 30 fucking years

Pay attention to the discussion. All I was doing this week and last week when I started this thread was just stating fact and bringing info to the class. I wasn't bragging about anything. All I said was Revelation recharted, nothing more and nothing less. As far as the denier comment, that was simply in regard to some people claiming Revelation sold only or mostly because of disc 2.

But, since you brought it up, I'll take the bait: Are they as relevant as they were in 1981 -no. Are they more relevant today as they've been in 20 years, I would say yes. A #1 DVD, #9 catalog album (with the likes of MJ and Beatles), most downloaded song in history (before you chime in, yes it's a 28 year old song but the point is its popularity then and now), and a recent appearance on Oprah (despite how much I hate that show) are recent evidence of that. Not to mention the two years of successful attendance figures and the Sopranos. Obviously, they aren't on the daily entertainment shows and they ain't Bon Jovi, but I wouldn't say no one isn't paying attention either. They're doing well, nothing more nothing less.

Just want to clarify that they have most downloaded CATALOG Track in history. DSB hovers around #42 for overall digital song downloads.

[Enigma869]

Just want to clarify that they have most downloaded CATALOG Track in history. DSB hovers around #42 for overall digital song downloads.

Still not so bad for a bunch of washed up, old fucks like Schon and Friga! Keep milking that Perry cow, baby!

[madsplash]

Just want to clarify that they have most downloaded CATALOG Track in history. DSB hovers around #42 for overall digital song downloads.

Still not so bad for a bunch of washed up, old fucks like Schon and Friga! Keep milking that Perry cow, baby!

LMFAO

[Tito]

Just want to clarify that they have most downloaded CATALOG Track in history. DSB hovers around #42 for overall digital song downloads.

Still not so bad for a bunch of washed up, old fucks like Schon and Friga! Keep milking that Perry cow, baby!

LMFAO

Last time I checked, Perry gets royalties too. He had to sign off on Sopranos and he was the one singing DSB during the White Sox World Series run. If anything, it's Perry milking the Schon and Cain cow. Herbie said it best with his pimps and ho's analogy. They're at least working.

[Since 78]

Just want to clarify that they have most downloaded CATALOG Track in history. DSB hovers around #42 for overall digital song downloads.

Still not so bad for a bunch of washed up, old fucks like Schon and Friga! Keep milking that Perry cow, baby!

LMFAO

Last time I checked, Perry gets royalties too. He had to sign off on Sopranos and he was the one singing DSB during the White Sox World Series run. If anything, it's Perry milking the Schon and Cain cow. Herbie said it best with his pimps and ho's analogy. They're at least working.

Exactly.

[brywool]

Just want to clarify that they have most downloaded CATALOG Track in history. DSB hovers around #42 for overall digital song downloads.

Still not so bad for a bunch of washed up, old fucks like Schon and Friga! Keep milking that Perry cow, baby!

LMFAO

Last time I checked, Perry gets royalties too. He had to sign off on Sopranos and he was the one singing DSB during the White Sox World Series run. If anything, it's Perry milking the Schon and Cain cow. Herbie said it best with his pimps and ho's analogy. They're at least working.

Exactly.

Hard to argue the logic here.

[Don]

In the Pimp/Ho relationship, somebody's gotta do the work.

[Since 78]

In the Pimp/Ho relationship, somebody's gotta do the work.

You are quick, have to admit that.

[madsplash]

In the Pimp/Ho relationship, somebody's gotta do the work.

Exactly. We all know who the pimp is in the Journey/SP relationship.

Some people work only when they want to, because they can. Others work because they HAVE to.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Some people work only when they want to, because they can. Others work because they HAVE to.

So I guess Perry doesn't fit into either one of these categories, right?

[Since 78]

Some people work only when they want to, because they can. Others work because they HAVE to.

So I guess Perry doesn't fit into either one of these categories, right?

Exactly!

[Don]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

[portland]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

Welcome back Gunbot.....you have been missed and this is a great post!!!

[Enigma869]

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

I asked this same question a few days back in the post of Arnel singing a Bryan Adams song. Simply makes ZERO sense to me at all. The speculation will be that Schon and Friga probably aren't paying this dude enough and he's doing what he has to do to take care of his family. At the end of the day, Arnel is simpy (another) a hired gun. His voice, too will fade away. Get your youtube audition tapes ready. I'm fully convinced that Neal will NEVER retire and will eventually drop dead right in the middle of a concert (which if you gave the guy some truth serum is probably his ultimate dream)!

[Saint John]

Arnel is singing because he flat out loves to do it. I think Perry has poisoned the minds of some of the fucking fans. You people simply fail to realize or acknowledge that some people perform because it's what they love to fucking do. Neal's on record as saying he only feels totally alive when he's on stage. That's what he lives for. I think Michael Jordan, Ali and a few others had such a hard time adjusting to regular life because when the "high" they were used to athletically disappeared they felt a sense of emptiness. Neal is lucky enough to be in a profession were he can keep getting that high. The dude has more money than he knows what to do with. It's not about that.

[Jana]

Some people work only when they want to, because they can. Others work because they HAVE to.

So I guess Perry doesn't fit into either one of these categories, right?

Exactly!

Exactly.

Yeah, like Neal is working b/c he has to. Please. I guess Tom Jones has to work too. Some people love to perform. Some people like to hang it up early like The Cars guy and I guess Perry and not even do it here or there. Perry says he thinks about performing all the time. Well, that's different than losing interest in doing it period. Why in 23 years he's only performed live one tour I can't answer, save the memorial a few songs and the baseball series, when he's mentioned he thinks about it and misses it.

[Michigan Girl]

I missed that issue of Forbes!!

[Don]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

Welcome back Gunbot.....you have been missed and this is a great post!!!

Considering the top forum seems to have outposted this one, 2OOO to 500 over the last few days (which would be a ratio of 4 to 1, in layman's terms), I figure this place needs someone to come in and introduce some stimulating conversation. It doesn't necessarily have to be based on facts, just something a little different than the lovefest that has slowly made inroads into a lot of these threads of late.

[portland]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

Welcome back Gunbot.....you have been missed and this is a great post!!!

Considering the top forum seems to have outposted this one, 2OOO to 500 over the last few days (which would be a ratio of 4 to 1, in layman's terms), I figure this place needs someone to come in and introduce some stimulating conversation. It doesn't necessarily have to be based on facts, just something a little different than the lovefest that has slowly made inroads into a lot of these threads of late.

You should be all set...since when has anything here lately been based on facts

[Onestepper]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

Sometimes Pineda comes off as a kid in a candy store. I don't sense from the interviews I've seen that he has the creative juices to do his own stuff. Just my observation. I think he's happy singing covers, making a good living, and enjoying his family. He's got talent, no doubt. But I never get from him that he's just itching to write or record a million seller.

[Jana]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

Welcome back Gunbot.....you have been missed and this is a great post!!!

Considering the top forum seems to have outposted this one, 2OOO to 500 over the last few days (which would be a ratio of 4 to 1, in layman's terms), I figure this place needs someone to come in and introduce some stimulating conversation. It doesn't necessarily have to be based on facts, just something a little different than the lovefest that has slowly made inroads into a lot of these threads of late.

I'm laughing. When it's over 50 percent good you consider it a lovefest. I guess you are never worried about the hatefest that makes huge inroads here and the need to balance that also.

[Don]

Most Rockstars have two goals in life;

1. To be rich
2. To hear themselves on the radio

I believe Perry has achieved both of these. I just heard Wheel in the Sky on the radio 40 minutes ago. Classic Journey will continue to get played on the radio regardless if Perry or Journey is out there working or not. Why slave away on the road if you're already financially secure and can here yourself at least 6 times a day on the radio, 25 years after the original releases?

Which begs another question; Why is Pineda slaving away, singing Cover songs in his downtime IN THE ORIGINAL KEY, yet when he is with the group he has to sing half a step down?

Actually, why is Pineda still singing Cover songs period? Doesn't Journey pay him enough? If he is trying to garner favor in his home country, sing some of those original compositions people have been talking about him writing during his ZOO days. Flat out IMITATING Bryan Adams and Sammy Hagar is embarrassing for any Journey singer to be doing to supplement his income.

Welcome back Gunbot.....you have been missed and this is a great post!!!

Considering the top forum seems to have outposted this one, 2OOO to 500 over the last few days (which would be a ratio of 4 to 1, in layman's terms), I figure this place needs someone to come in and introduce some stimulating conversation. It doesn't necessarily have to be based on facts, just something a little different than the lovefest that has slowly made inroads into a lot of these threads of late.

I'm laughing. When it's over 50 percent good you consider it a lovefest. I guess you are never worried about the hatefest that makes huge inroads here and the need to balance that also.

Of course not. I know you, '78, St. John and Brywool are here to guard the gates against those types of intrusions.