President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[RossValoryRocks]

Hey FF. Check out this "Fair & Balanced News" from Fox. Fair & Balanced my ass. Oh, I'm aware all the networks probably do this but they don't lay claim to being "Fair & Balanced" like Fox!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/2 ... 27140.html

Yeah like the Huffington Post even pretends to be fair itself.

I hear you, but like I said, they don't run with the tagline "Fair & Balanced"

That isn't the issue...here is what is the issue: A completely biased group says another group, that doesn't always see things their way, is biased.

Fox is rated by viewers, as probably the MOST fair out there, hell even Hillary Clinton said they were more fair to her than any other news outlet. That is saying something.

You fucking liberals just don't want to hear ANY criticism of your side at all...and if you do...gasp...they are quickly slapped with a label, deniggrated, and put on some kind of list for future payback.
Nice...how very Stalin of you!

[JrnyScarab]

Hey FF. Check out this "Fair & Balanced News" from Fox. Fair & Balanced my ass. Oh, I'm aware all the networks probably do this but they don't lay claim to being "Fair & Balanced" like Fox!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/2 ... 27140.html

Yeah like the Huffington Post even pretends to be fair itself.

I hear you, but like I said, they don't run with the tagline "Fair & Balanced"

That isn't the issue...here is what is the issue: A completely biased group says another group, that doesn't always see things their way, is biased.

Fox is rated by viewers, as probably the MOST fair out there, hell even Hillary Clinton said they were more fair to her than any other news outlet. That is saying something.

You fucking liberals just don't want to hear ANY criticism of your side at all...and if you do...gasp...they are quickly slapped with a label, deniggrated, and put on some kind of list for future payback.
Nice...how very Stalin of you!

Talk about labels. All I've heard for ages is the "biased mainstream media". You know, the mainstream that elected Obama

[The_Noble_Cause]

...hell even Hillary Clinton said they were more fair to her than any other news outlet. That is saying something.

Yup.
Speaks volumes about Hillary's desperation to hang in the race long after her chance of winning was deemed an electoral impossibility.
Not only would she whorishly pay compliments to the same cable network that helped fuel rumors of her murdering Vince Foster, as the race went on and the White House slipped further from her fingers, she also sat down with Richard Mellon Scaife. Yes, the same right wing mogul that helped bankroll the Arkansas Project to dig dirt on her husband.

Like Nader's ego-trips in 2004 and 2008, most networks tuned her out after her campaign became little more than a vanity campaign.
And they were right to do so.
Hillary, Obama, and McCain were ALL among the news networks' annointed celebrity candidates.
She should be the last person talking about getting media hind tit.

[SteveForever]

speaking of Hillary....there's a new documentary coming out about a woman the Clintons supposedly killed in Arkansas
years ago and covered it up...it will be on a new show called Prime Time Crime

[squirt1]

Can anyone not agree that Obama is way inexperienced & Chicago style politics ? He seems more concerned about political criticism than what the generals in Afganistan say they need. THEN GET OUT AND SAVE OUR YOUNG MEN THEIR LIVES. Make a damn decision ! Stop being distracted by your narsicistic personality. So now Democratic Congress tax the hell out of business and people who buy their products ( that cost is added to the price ). More businesses will leave the U S and the jobs they create. I remember the 60's to now and this is the most insecure feeling I have EVER felt. All of the politicians of the last 40 yrs have bankrupted us. That money is owed to China. The U S $ is devalued & countries want to trade gas in other currencies. SS is only good to 2017 so keep paying in kids! Medicare is TRILLIONS underfunded,so elderly they are looking to cut you too. This year no SS increases, but they are going to up our med ins cost. We have a Congress that votes on bills they admit they have not read. Staff attorneys make these 1500 pg bills. GET LAWYERS out of CONGRESS and their staffs. That also applies to medical lawsuits AKA tort reform which Obama will not have in the Health bill.Maybe that is because he is a lawyer. Wake up- this is real.

[S2M]

You do know that Communism is an economic system, and not a political sytem....don't you?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Becks outing of The Peaceful Wons Marxist friends really has you guys bothered. Good. It's bothered me too, I hate Communist in my Government.

Has nothing to do with Van Jones.
Conservatives like David Frum (who's actually offering a Buckley-style intellectual Conservative argument and not just morning DJ garbage) and David Brooks have all condemned Beck for his tactics and lies.
Last week I watched Beck break down and cry 4 times within a ten minute time span.
He also proceeded to play the Mean Joe Green Coca-Cola ad and hold it up as an example of a simpler time America desperately needs to go back to.

http://videogum.com/archives/awkward_li ... 95961.html

Beck, who by his own admission didn't take a serious interest in world affairs until 2001, used to be your garden variety Limbaugh clone.
Now, in the wake of Bush's unpopularity, he's ripped off Alex "New World Order" Jones's act for personal gain.
I can’t think of a more uneducated bastard to better represent your party.
If Murdoch had any ethics he'd cancel him before he blows his brains out live over the air.

[Behshad]

You do know that Communism is an economic system, and not a political sytem....don't you?

Dont even bother...... he knows it all

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well, since Fox isn't really a "Real" News Network, why can't you guys just let us nuts enjoy our entertainment? We don't begrudge the 5 of you who watch MSNBC.

Watch what you want, man.
I don't care.
By the way, MSNBC used to be chock-a-block with the frothing right wing likes of Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Monica Crowley, and you guys still bitched and yelped about the liberal media.
Clearly, they've now shifted left to try to make a buck, but at least they still give Joe Scarborough a 3-hour forum daily.
That's more than you can say about FOX.
Their token house liberal, Alan Colmes, is reduced to having an online FOX.com webcast.

[treetopovskaya]

Obama suffers worst quarterly approval drop of any elected president in history.

In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953.

heh. }:C)

[Barb]

This President is nothing more than an immature brat. He has serious responsibilities and problems to deal with and what is he wasting his time on? Fox News? Stating that those who aren't in lock step with him simply "do what they're told"? Meanwhile, he spent hours meeting with Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow? Wow. What maturity and leadership.

This guy doesn't have the maturity to be the POTUS. He's just a punk ass kid.

[Barb]

This President is nothing more than an immature brat. He has serious responsibilities and problems to deal with and what is he wasting his time on? Fox News? Stating that those who aren't in lock step with him simply "do what they're told"? Meanwhile, he spent hours meeting with Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow? Wow. What maturity and leadership.

This guy doesn't have the maturity to be the POTUS. He's just a punk ass kid.

Who has surrounded himself with Communists Mao loving homosexual activists anti-capitalists dirtbags in our White House.

Oh ya, and that too. At this point, I am completely turned off by his immaturity and thin skin. I hate men like that.

[S2M]

I pity the people that actually thought(think) that ANY POTUS would actually have any idea how to 'fix' this country....

[Barb]

I pity the people that actually thought(think) that ANY POTUS would actually have any idea how to 'fix' this country....

Our President and entire government are a bunch of self absorbed power hungry idiots who don't even CARE about fixing anything.

[The_Noble_Cause]

This President is nothing more than an immature brat. He has serious responsibilities and problems to deal with and what is he wasting his time on? Fox News?

Your outrage is bogus.
Presidents have been attacking the media forever.
The Republicans, in particular, have it down to an art form.
Tell me, was Nixon also compromising national security when his administration leveled the press as "Nattering nabobs of negativism" while ‘Nam raged on?

Stating that those who aren't in lock step with him simply "do what they're told"?

Not what he said.

Meanwhile, he spent hours meeting with Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow? Wow. What maturity and leadership.

And Bush gave Beck, Limbaugh, and the entire cadre of rightwing carnival barkers off-the-record personal tours of the White House.
We even discussed it here on this forum - you said NOTHING.
I am against this type of collusion no matter who does it.

This guy doesn't have the maturity to be the POTUS. He's just a punk ass kid.

By restoring PayGo rules and putting the cost of both wars back on the books, Obama has already shown himself to be far more conservative than the actual conservatives. He will go down as a great president and the GOP will posthumously try to claim him just like JFK - you heard it here first.

[Barb]

This President is nothing more than an immature brat. He has serious responsibilities and problems to deal with and what is he wasting his time on? Fox News?

Your outrage is bogus.
Presidents have been attacking the media forever.
The Republicans, in particular, have it down to an art form.
Tell me, was Nixon also compromising national security when his administration leveled the press as "Nattering nabobs of negativism" while ‘Nam raged on?

Stating that those who aren't in lock step with him simply "do what they're told"?

Not what he said.

Meanwhile, he spent hours meeting with Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow? Wow. What maturity and leadership.

And Bush gave Beck, Limbaugh, and the entire cadre of rightwing carnival barkers off-the-record personal tours of the White House.
We even discussed it here on this forum - you said NOTHING.
I am against this type of collusion no matter who does it.

This guy doesn't have the maturity to be the POTUS. He's just a punk ass kid.

By restoring PayGo rules and putting the cost of both wars back on the books, Obama has already shown himself to be far more conservative than the actual conservatives. He will go down as a great president and the GOP will posthumously try to claim him just like JFK - you heard it here first.

I really don't care if Obama wants to give tours of the white house to media figures who are friendly toward him -- big deal. That's not the point and you know it. The point is his hypocrisy and his constant WHINING about FNC.

As for the rest of your post... wow, just wow.

[Barb]

Stating that those who aren't in lock step with him simply "do what they're told"?

Not what he said.

It's not?

http://www.breitbart.tv/do-what-theyre- ... undraiser/

[The_Noble_Cause]

The point is his hypocrisy and his constant WHINING about FNC.

The administration feels FNC has overstepped their bounds into 100% advocacy.
Given that Fox News unexpectedly decided not to cover the Tea parties this past weekend, maybe they are on to something.
Administrations have been playing offense against the media since forever.
Non-issue.

As for the rest of your post... wow, just wow.

As usual, no facts.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Stating that those who aren't in lock step with him simply "do what they're told"?

Not what he said.

It's not?

http://www.breitbart.tv/do-what-theyre- ... undraiser/

No, it's not.
He didn't draw a contrast between goosestep marching Democrats and the GOP.
Just the opposite.
In a play on Will Roger's famous line "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat" he said the Dems are too opionated.
He did menton that the GOP are a bunch of authoritarians, which is basically accurate.
Just look at how they reacted when they were told Obama called Palin a "lipstick pig."
Most didn't even have the sense to figure out they were being led by the nose.
That said, both parties run on cult of personality.

[StevePerryHair]

BESHAD ****Copy and Paste ALERT****BESHAD

ignore...ignore...ignore

anyone else with a working brain proceed at your own educational level. Learn at your own risk.

****ALERT OVER****

‘Radio Free America’: Obama administration attempts to ‘jam signals’ that conflict with its agenda

During the Cold War, the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe were among the broadcast entities that effectively penetrated the Iron Curtain to deliver truth to the “captive nations” that were being fed a steady dose of propaganda by their communist rulers. Those dictators did everything they could to “jam” the signals so that their people would only hear what their unelected overseers wanted them to hear. Contemporary versions of jamming and other forms of censorship occur today in Venezuela, Cuba, and many other places where dictators believe public ignorance is essential to their unchallenged rule.

While the Obama administration is the product of an election, its approach to the Fox News Channel, conservative talk radio, and possibly the internet appears similar to dictators who desire control over the flow of information in order to enhance their power.

The administration’s primary beef appears to be that Fox is doing the job the broadcast networks and big newspapers should be doing were they not still deeply in the tank for this president and his policies.

Like those Cold War truth-tellers, Fox is simply delivering information to a rapidly growing audience (partly due to criticism from the White House) that wants to see and hear what the other media are not telling them. Fox—and talk radio—are reporting on the backgrounds and statements of Obama administration officials. Fox didn’t create the statements and actions of Van Jones, the now former “energy czar,” who signed a petition questioning whether Bush administration officials allowed 9/11 to happen as a possible pretext for going to war. Fox didn’t force Jones to advocate for cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, or associate himself with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a left-wing radical group with Marxist roots.

No Fox News employee wrote the speeches and comments of White House Communications Director Anita Dunn, who told graduating high school seniors that one of her “favorite philosophers” is the mass murderer Mao Zedong. Neither did they compose her boast during the campaign that the Obama people “controlled” the news media.

ACORN might never have been exposed for its possibly illegal activities had not an enterprising young duo gone to their offices with a hidden camera and recorded some ACORN workers who were happy to assist them in breaking the law.

As one who appears on Fox as a contributor, I have seen the network grow from its beginning more than a decade ago to its current position of holding accountable those in power. That was once the calling of all journalists until the Kennedy years when reporters started cheerleading and socializing with the people they were empowered to question and cover. This shift in responsibility has greatly enhanced the status and income of too many journalists and commentators. It has also shortchanged the profession and the public it is supposed to serve.

It is no mystery why the White House has made Fox News a target. If its reporting and commentating were not effective in exposing things the administration does not want the public to know, Fox would be ignored. But it is increasingly effective because the public is sensing that the administration has a lot to hide about its personnel, ideology, and objectives.

Rather than boycott Fox—if the administration were smart—it would flood the network with its spokespeople. The administration apparently believes it needs an enemy to avert scrutiny from its socialist agenda, the undermining of free speech, and the corruption of the U.S. Constitution. Because Republicans have no credible national leader, the administration has settled on Fox News.

Political leaders, going back to our founding, have criticized the press. It never works, because after the politicians leave office, the press remains. If the administration is seeking approval for its policies, it should go on the only channel that will confront, examine, and question those policies. If the policies are valid, they will stand; if not, they won’t and they shouldn’t. But perhaps, like those dictators, the administration would rather jam Fox’s “signal” because they don’t want the public to know the truth about what they are doing.

If you're going to have an alert you may at least wanna spell the guy's name right

[Voyager]

This dumbass needs to shut his fucking mouth and die - he's already done enough damage to our country. Now he's blaming Obama for "sabotaging his legacy". WTF? He sabotaged his own legacy. Someone please grab a frequency jamming device and shut his pacemaker down. I think he's been sucking Rush Dumbaugh's cock too much lately.

Obama is 'afraid,' Cheney says

(CNN) - After a summer in which Dick Cheney dialed back his attacks on President Obama's national security polices, the former vice president told a conservative gathering Wednesday that the Obama administration had damaged America's relationship with key allies, dangerously wavered in Afghanistan, undermined progress in Iraq, and intentionally sabotaged the Bush administration's national security legacy.

In the hard-hitting and wide-ranging speech at Center for Security policy, Cheney targeted the new administration's decision-making process on how to proceed in Afghanistan, saying Obama has failed to give troops on the ground a clear mission or defined goals, and appeared "afraid to make a decision."

"The White House must stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger," Cheney said. "Make no mistake, signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries."

Cheney also targeted White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who suggested to CNN's John King on "State of the Union" on Sunday that the previous administration had failed to adequately assess conditions in Afghanistan before committing troops there.

[Barb]

This dumbass needs to shut his fucking mouth and die - he's already done enough damage to our country. Now he's blaming Obama for "sabotaging his legacy". WTF? He sabotaged his own legacy. Someone please grab a frequency jamming device and shut his pacemaker down. I think he's been sucking Rush Dumbaugh's cock too much lately.

Obama is 'afraid,' Cheney says

(CNN) - After a summer in which Dick Cheney dialed back his attacks on President Obama's national security polices, the former vice president told a conservative gathering Wednesday that the Obama administration had damaged America's relationship with key allies, dangerously wavered in Afghanistan, undermined progress in Iraq, and intentionally sabotaged the Bush administration's national security legacy.

In the hard-hitting and wide-ranging speech at Center for Security policy, Cheney targeted the new administration's decision-making process on how to proceed in Afghanistan, saying Obama has failed to give troops on the ground a clear mission or defined goals, and appeared "afraid to make a decision."

"The White House must stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger," Cheney said. "Make no mistake, signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries."

Cheney also targeted White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who suggested to CNN's John King on "State of the Union" on Sunday that the previous administration had failed to adequately assess conditions in Afghanistan before committing troops there.

Everyone who disagrees with THE WON should just shut up -- or be forced to shut up.

[StevePerryHair]

Dadblumit I wanted Behshad to catch my mistake. That always makes him feel good about himself.

I think he's so used to it he thinks his name IS Beshad now

[JrnyScarab]

****BREAKING NEWS ALERT****

OBAMA TO SEND 40,000 MORE TROOPS TO FIGHT FOX NEWS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNDT03Kn ... _embedded#





Ohhh that's gotta hurt The Peaceful Won.....from Leno no less...

OK FF. I'll give you a laugh for this

[RedWingFan]

Fellow TV networks stand up for Fox News. White House backs down.
This is cheering. The White House tried to block Fox News from taking part in a series of round robin interviews with Ken Feinberg, the executive pay czar. Fox has been part of the White House press poll since 1997 and the other networks in the pool – NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN – consulted and decided that this would not stand.

The message they passed back was that either everyone interviewed Feinberg or no one did. The White House relented and Fox’s Major Garrett – whom the White House has made clear it views as an objective reporter – conducted his interview just like everyone else.

This is unfuckingreal that they tried to block Fox out. Chickenshit Won.

I don't see what the big deal is. Remember how W's White House constantly went after MSNBC? Didn't Bush constantly try to shut out MSNBC because they weren't slavish to him? Wasn't Bush accused of being the "dictator" and his White House accused of being a "regime" by people on this forum?

[The_Noble_Cause]

I don't see what the big deal is. Remember how W's White House constantly went after MSNBC? Didn't Bush constantly try to shut out MSNBC because they weren't slavish to him?

I take it this is an attempt at sarcasm.
Problem is, everything you stated above did happen and then some.
MSNBC didn't become the liberal counterpoint to Fox News until late in the game - Bush's last year in office in fact.
If the channel had staked their ideological ground from the moment Bush was sworn in, I have little doubt both Olbermann and Maddow would already be on a slow boat to GITMO.
As it was, the network recieved tons of shit.

Major Garrett should not have been blackballed from the interviews, that much is obvious, but let's not pretend Bush didn't rule the press corp with an iron fist.
In fact, I don't know of any other Presidential administration in history to get caught paying reporters with taxpayer money for favorable coverage.
And that's not even the half of it...
Come to think of it, you guys ever solve the case of the gay prostitute in the White House Press Corp?

[Voyager]

Rep. Grayson calls Cheney a vampire
Posted: October 24th, 2009 03:25 PM ET

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Florida, attracted attention for a tirade in the House against the GOP's health care plan.
NEW YORK (CNN)– Controversial freshman Rep. Alan Grayson, who has become famous for attacking the Republicans' health care plan, went on the attack again Friday night, calling former Vice President Dick Cheney a vampire for his recent criticism of the Obama administration's handling of the war in Afghanistan.

"I have trouble listening to what [Cheney] says sometimes because of the blood that drips from his teeth while he's talking," the Florida Democrat said on MSNBC's Hardball Friday night. "But my response is this: he's just angry because the president doesn't shoot old men in the face. But by the way, when he was done speaking, did he just then turn into a bat and fly away?"

LOLZ! I couldn't agree more. Cheney is a blood-thirsty vampire.

[Lula]

too bad the sign didn't rhyme, it's be much more effective.

[Ehwmatt]

Hahaha, I love it. Obama thinks the PotUS is a vacation. Play 18, take the kids, the wife, and the mother-in-law to Russia to negotiate a nuclear arms reduction treaty, tour the world apologizing for America and dining out for thousands of dollars between two people. Must be nice

[Lula]

So we learn this morning that The Peaceful Won has played Golf 24 times already in his first 9 months in office. Apparently it took Bush 2 years and 10 months to play that much.

“I don’t want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf,” he said. “I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal.” George W. Bush

bush is slow, we already knew that.