Should These Girls Have Been Suspended From School For This?

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Should These Girls Have Been Suspended From School For This?

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Postby DrFU » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:25 am

KenTheDude wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Nice insight, but I want to know what you would do if you were the principal of this school?


It depends ... context is everything. First consideration is community mores ... in a cosmopolitian, liberal city such as Austin, something like this likely would be a non-event; 90 miles away in a small, Bible-belt town like Crawford (home to W and Ted Nugent :) ), parents and community members would probably be in an uproar. So, the question here is whether or not the incident actually is having a negative impact on the team and the controversy is interferring with the team discipline and morale.

Other considerations include what the code of conduct says (is off campus behavior specifically covered?), the discipline history of the kids involved (is this a second or third offense?), how other, similar events have been handled at this particular school (what punishment did the drunk-in-public star quarterback receive?), what the coach and athletic director want (they are the ones who make the original decision about such things; the principal is typically the first line of appeal), whether or not any of the kids involved are served through special education (federal guidelines kick in about due process), how the information about the pictures came to the attention of school authorities (was another student deliberately trying to get these girls in trouble or kicked off the team?), and so forth.

And ... if the girls are under 18, the pictoral "evidence" in this case is arguably considered child pornography, so everyone involved needs to be super careful about how it is handled and who has access.


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Postby Maui Tom » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:34 am

I'm a sucker for for cheerleaders....:)
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:49 am

Maui Tom wrote:I'm a sucker for for cheerleaders....:)
especially Portlands, boinggggg
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Postby KenTheDude » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:06 am

DrFU wrote:
KenTheDude wrote:
DrFU wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Nice insight, but I want to know what you would do if you were the principal of this school?


It depends ... context is everything. First consideration is community mores ... in a cosmopolitian, liberal city such as Austin, something like this likely would be a non-event; 90 miles away in a small, Bible-belt town like Crawford (home to W and Ted Nugent :) ), parents and community members would probably be in an uproar. So, the question here is whether or not the incident actually is having a negative impact on the team and the controversy is interferring with the team discipline and morale.

Other considerations include what the code of conduct says (is off campus behavior specifically covered?), the discipline history of the kids involved (is this a second or third offense?), how other, similar events have been handled at this particular school (what punishment did the drunk-in-public star quarterback receive?), what the coach and athletic director want (they are the ones who make the original decision about such things; the principal is typically the first line of appeal), whether or not any of the kids involved are served through special education (federal guidelines kick in about due process), how the information about the pictures came to the attention of school authorities (was another student deliberately trying to get these girls in trouble or kicked off the team?), and so forth.

And ... if the girls are under 18, the pictoral "evidence" in this case is arguably considered child pornography, so everyone involved needs to be super careful about how it is handled and who has access.


Blueskies? :wink: :twisted:


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Postby DrFU » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:03 am

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It's great to be back. I love you too, Linda. :D


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Postby journeyrock » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:34 am

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Voyager wrote:I could see them kicking them off the athletic team if they don't want the team to have a slutty image, but kicking them out of school and denying them an education due to something they did at home that wasn't illegal seems communist to me.

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So no slutty girls in sports or cheerleading :shock: I think when I was in school half the girls would have been banned :lol:
If I remember correctly, it was said that the cheerleaders in my high school did the entire basketball team. but of course, there were no pictures involved. :roll:
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:48 pm

journeyrock wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Voyager wrote:I could see them kicking them off the athletic team if they don't want the team to have a slutty image, but kicking them out of school and denying them an education due to something they did at home that wasn't illegal seems communist to me.

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So no slutty girls in sports or cheerleading :shock: I think when I was in school half the girls would have been banned :lol:
If I remember correctly, it was said that the cheerleaders in my high school did the entire basketball team. but of course, there were no pictures involved. :roll:
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Postby Sarah » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:10 am

I'm mostly shocked people are still using MySpace.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:42 am

Sarah wrote:I'm mostly shocked people are still using MySpace.


MySpace is still useful for finding bands, but I NEVER used it as a social networking site. I have an account on there that I use solely for music, and even then I haven't logged in for months.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:44 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Sarah wrote:I'm mostly shocked people are still using MySpace.


MySpace is still useful for finding bands, but I NEVER used it as a social networking site. I have an account on there that I use solely for music, and even then I haven't logged in for months.


Myspace is so clogged up with crap that I gave it up completely. Nothing loads anymore. Even the music pages rarely load for me. When they do, they seem to take forever and I have a new computer (Feb.) so that shouldn't happen.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:48 am

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Sarah wrote:I'm mostly shocked people are still using MySpace.


MySpace is still useful for finding bands, but I NEVER used it as a social networking site. I have an account on there that I use solely for music, and even then I haven't logged in for months.


Myspace is so clogged up with crap that I gave it up completely. Nothing loads anymore. Even the music pages rarely load for me. When they do, they seem to take forever and I have a new computer (Feb.) so that shouldn't happen.


Yeah it's pretty bad. I mainly pop onto a few guys' sites that actually post notes there to read and stuff... Burton Cummings is one of the best for that. He'll post his thoughts after every show, post rare bootlegs/B sides, tell us about if he struggled at a show, tell us about how a song came to be and what not... really cool stuff, and great interaction with the fans... except he writes in ALL CAPS and his posts are quite long, so they can be hard to get through :lol:

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Postby Sarah » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:59 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Sarah wrote:I'm mostly shocked people are still using MySpace.


MySpace is still useful for finding bands, but I NEVER used it as a social networking site. I have an account on there that I use solely for music, and even then I haven't logged in for months.

Yup, it's good for bands, that's about it. Facebook is far superior otherwise.
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