Halftime, The Super Bowl, and suck-ass TV

[S2M]

Television exists for the SOLE purpose of selling products.

The Superbowl halftime show got me to thinking about how halftime rules the SB. Isn't this supposed to be about FOOTBALL. Advertising time approaching 4 million for 30 SECS of commercial?!

Personally, I think TV was invented to sell shit. Shows are just a neccesary evil(as far as the advertisers are concerned).

When the halftime show PLUS commercial time is deemed more important than the actual game - we got a problem, bunky.

And in this day and age when primetime network TV sucks in so many ways I can't even count, I'm surprised TV even exists at all.

Which makes me wonder who these test audiences are who beta test these sitcoms, reality shows, and 40,000,000 lame police-type dramas...


TV exists for the sole purpose of selling shit. Fuck the super bowl. I can't wait to see what the newest side is at KF - fucking - C.

[Rockindeano]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

[S2M]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

[Rockindeano]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

With asinine comments like this, you look even more stupid and more bitter. Hey I'm game for a nice throwdown. Your call.

[S2M]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

And with asinine comments like this, you look even more stupid and more bitter. Hey I'm game for a nice throwdown. Your call.

I was joking, btw. Bitter, no. Stupid, far from it. And I'm not looking for a throwdown. Looking for a civil discussion.

[Rockindeano]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

And with asinine comments like this, you look even more stupid and more bitter. Hey I'm game for a nice throwdown. Your call.

I was joking, btw. Bitter, no. Stupid, far from it. And I'm not looking for a throwdown. Looking for a civil discussion.

Ok good. As for the Super Bowl being a huge commercial? Sure it is. The NFL is a huge sell out. It is the biggest sport in the world(money), so why not play it up?

You have to remember too, that only two teams go to the SB, so that leaves the other 28 teams' fans really not caring who wins. Unless you were a Stealers or Cards fan last year, or a Springsteen fan, my guess was you watched for the commercials, even though the game was perhaps one of the best ever.

[S2M]

I used to enjoy the Super Bowl when there was ONE week between the Conference Championships and the SB. Honestly, like I mentioned in another thread, I haven't really been INTO it since Sanders retired. As much as I clamor about the Pats - that's just basically a function of geography for me. I like watching good football. It is extremely rare that you get two deserving(argue over the word if you wish) in that game. And now that you mention it - last SB really was one of the worst ever. From a referee standpoint, and from an football standpoint. Blast me if you wish, but AZ got hosed in that game.

I guess it is fun to have a SB party. Hell, I even enjoy doing that. But it has morphed into some sort of commercial juggernaut of wacky proportions. Player profiles that are laughable. Players doing stupid commercials. Ex-players trying to cement themselves as class commentators. Hell, I'd rather see Cornhoser up there than Emmitt Smith. How would you feel if before each Journey show in 2001 you had to sit through a 15-minute retrospective on the career moves of Augeri, Tall Stories, and The Gap - before the concert began?

Today's music scene is weak. Not only Today's as in(right now), but Today's(as a whole)....If you can't make it so the act sings live(and I mean each and every one of them), then that is a sad state of affairs. If not, what's the point? Nothing other than to promote the bands latest and not-so greatest effort.

The halftime show has become a caricature of itself....IMHO.

[StevePerryHair]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

And with asinine comments like this, you look even more stupid and more bitter. Hey I'm game for a nice throwdown. Your call.

I was joking, btw. Bitter, no. Stupid, far from it. And I'm not looking for a throwdown. Looking for a civil discussion.

Ok good. As for the Super Bowl being a huge commercial? Sure it is. The NFL is a huge sell out. It is the biggest sport in the world(money), so why not play it up?

You have to remember too, that only two teams go to the SB, so that leaves the other 28 teams' fans really not caring who wins. Unless you were a Stealers or Cards fan last year, or a Springsteen fan, my guess was you watched for the commercials, even though the game was perhaps one of the best ever.

YOU didn't spell Steelers right?? Or was it spell checks fault?

[Rockindeano]

That was intentional Lynn. They stole that SB from Seattle. I will never forget that abortion of a game. That was a joke.

[StevePerryHair]

That was intentional Lynn. They stole that SB from Seattle. I will never forget that abortion of a game. That was a joke.

Oh

[S2M]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

And with asinine comments like this, you look even more stupid and more bitter. Hey I'm game for a nice throwdown. Your call.

I was joking, btw. Bitter, no. Stupid, far from it. And I'm not looking for a throwdown. Looking for a civil discussion.

Ok good. As for the Super Bowl being a huge commercial? Sure it is. The NFL is a huge sell out. It is the biggest sport in the world(money), so why not play it up?

You have to remember too, that only two teams go to the SB, so that leaves the other 28 teams' fans really not caring who wins. Unless you were a Stealers or Cards fan last year, or a Springsteen fan, my guess was you watched for the commercials, even though the game was perhaps one of the best ever.

YOU didn't spell Steelers right?? Or was it spell checks fault?

It was on purpose because they've stolen their last TWO Super Bowls....

[Rockindeano]

I give YoungJrny about 3 mins to come barreling in here in pure aggressive defiant anger.

[StevePerryHair]

You know there is a button. An off and on button. You can push down on that once and not watch it. Pretty simple isn't it?

Looking for a civil conversation about it....not a one-line, hit and run......

Like your one-hit wonder, Bruce.

And with asinine comments like this, you look even more stupid and more bitter. Hey I'm game for a nice throwdown. Your call.

I was joking, btw. Bitter, no. Stupid, far from it. And I'm not looking for a throwdown. Looking for a civil discussion.

Ok good. As for the Super Bowl being a huge commercial? Sure it is. The NFL is a huge sell out. It is the biggest sport in the world(money), so why not play it up?

You have to remember too, that only two teams go to the SB, so that leaves the other 28 teams' fans really not caring who wins. Unless you were a Stealers or Cards fan last year, or a Springsteen fan, my guess was you watched for the commercials, even though the game was perhaps one of the best ever.

YOU didn't spell Steelers right?? Or was it spell checks fault?

It was on purpose because they've stolen their last TWO Super Bowls....

Did NOT

[S2M]

I give YoungJrny about 3 mins to come barreling in here in pure aggressive defiant anger.

Is that the O/U?

[Don]

You know what kills youth?

A bullet.

[YoungJRNY]

I give YoungJrny about 3 mins to come barreling in here in pure aggressive defiant anger.

Take your bets. I'm here.


It's just a hater thing, Lynn. Haters can come up with any assumption or excuse they want, it won't change the fact we are 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time NFL Champions. At any time, they can bow down to our league leading 6 Super Bowl trophies and ask if they are worthy enough to kiss the ground we spit on. (*laughs)

[StevePerryHair]

I give YoungJrny about 3 mins to come barreling in here in pure aggressive defiant anger.

Take your bets. I'm here.


It's just a hater thing, Lynn. Haters can come up with any assumption or excuse they want, it won't change the fact we are 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time, 6 time NFL Champions. At any time, they can bow down to our league leading 6 Super Bowl trophies and ask if they are worthy enough to kiss the ground we spit on. (*laughs)

[Rockindeano]

"We're?"

LOL

[YoungJRNY]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

[StevePerryHair]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

Why is it that every time any Pittsburgh team wins a championship we have to hear how the "stole" it. But every other team wins them all honestly right? Except Pittsburgh? Sure

[Ehwmatt]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

Why is it that every time any Pittsburgh team wins a championship we have to hear how the "stole" it. But every other team wins them all honestly right? Except Pittsburgh? Sure

Wait a second here, aren't you originally from Erie?

[StevePerryHair]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

Why is it that every time any Pittsburgh team wins a championship we have to hear how the "stole" it. But every other team wins them all honestly right? Except Pittsburgh? Sure

Wait a second here, aren't you originally from Erie?

yep!! why?

[Ehwmatt]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

Why is it that every time any Pittsburgh team wins a championship we have to hear how the "stole" it. But every other team wins them all honestly right? Except Pittsburgh? Sure

Wait a second here, aren't you originally from Erie?

yep!! why?

Just was wondering if my memory was correct, I think we talked about that a long time ago cause I went to college in Meadville

[YoungJRNY]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

Why is it that every time any Pittsburgh team wins a championship we have to hear how the "stole" it. But every other team wins them all honestly right? Except Pittsburgh? Sure

Because that's all the hater can lean their heads on. They will always be searching to steal the credit and to deflect the greatness that is 6 Super Bowl Championship wins. They got the cry, we got the rings.

[StevePerryHair]

"We're?"

LOL

You read correctly. The same "we" as in "We are PENN STATE." Same use of paraphrasing and when anybody say's 'we.' The Steelers have "Pittsburgh" in front of their name. I reside in Pittsburgh. So yes, we.

Why is it that every time any Pittsburgh team wins a championship we have to hear how the "stole" it. But every other team wins them all honestly right? Except Pittsburgh? Sure

Wait a second here, aren't you originally from Erie?

yep!! why?

Just was wondering if my memory was correct, I think we talked about that a long time ago cause I went to college in Meadville

yes! I remember that but I figured you forgot!

[Ehwmatt]

yes! I remember that but I figured you forgot!

And now you're in Orlando, away from all the snow and misery... lucky! I'm glad to be out of there. The east side of Cleveland/Greater northeast Ohio gets hammered with snow just like you guys do too. I'm on the west side. Obviously I get plenty of snow and misery but it's not NEARLY as bad as the shit they put up with.

[StevePerryHair]

yes! I remember that but I figured you forgot!

And now you're in Orlando, away from all the snow and misery... lucky! I'm glad to be out of there. The east side of Cleveland/Greater northeast Ohio gets hammered with snow just like you guys do too. I'm on the west side. Obviously I get plenty of snow and misery but it's not NEARLY as bad as the shit they put up with.

Yes, and this is the best time of year! Summer's are awful, but then Erie snow was worse. That snow belt is horrible there! They have had snow off and on since the beginning of Oct. this year I heard it was near 70 last weekend though. We have 70's right now, no humidity and I'm loving it! I have lived here since out of college, so 19 years now and can't imagine living there again. I do visit now and then though. I love visiting, but living there would be hard!

So you live on the west side of Cleveland? I went to Med. Tech. School on the west side. At Metro Health Medical center and I had to LIVE in a CREEPY dorm there at the hospital! It was from the 1800's and it was like living in a prison cell for 12 months That's my Cleveland memory!! But I did have friends who lived there and commuted so I got to go to the flats and the galleria and things like that now and then. I remember snow in Cleveland too, but yes, nothing like Erie area snow!

My dad worked for OSHA, and he had to commute from Erie to Meadville for YEARS until they moved the office into Erie. (this was quite a few years ago) Imagine driving in that snow belt back and forth every day One guy he worked with got in a horrible accident back then and he had a van with chains on the tires and still spun out of control. Dont' miss living in snow!!

[Ehwmatt]

yes! I remember that but I figured you forgot!

And now you're in Orlando, away from all the snow and misery... lucky! I'm glad to be out of there. The east side of Cleveland/Greater northeast Ohio gets hammered with snow just like you guys do too. I'm on the west side. Obviously I get plenty of snow and misery but it's not NEARLY as bad as the shit they put up with.

Yes, and this is the best time of year! Summer's are awful, but then Erie snow was worse. That snow belt is horrible there! They have had snow off and on since the beginning of Oct. this year I heard it was near 70 last weekend though. We have 70's right now, no humidity and I'm loving it! I have lived here since out of college, so 19 years now and can't imagine living there again. I do visit now and then though. I love visiting, but living there would be hard!

So you live on the west side of Cleveland? I went to Med. Tech. School on the west side. At Metro Health Medical center and I had to LIVE in a CREEPY dorm there at the hospital! It was from the 1800's and it was like living in a prison cell for 12 months That's my Cleveland memory!! But I did have friends who lived there and commuted so I got to go to the flats and the galleria and things like that now and then. I remember snow in Cleveland too, but yes, nothing like Erie area snow!

My dad worked for OSHA, and he had to commute from Erie to Meadville for YEARS until they moved the office into Erie. (this was quite a few years ago) Imagine driving in that snow belt back and forth every day One guy he worked with got in a horrible accident back then and he had a van with chains on the tires and still spun out of control. Dont' miss living in snow!!

Oh yeah, I had a bunch of scary drives home around holiday breaks, especially Xmas... I had to go through Erie/Meadville/the rest of that little area in PA, then into the snow belt in eastern Ohio all the way, then finally home. When I say west side, I live in Westlake... I don't live in the city. It's too shitty now, especially with the economy the way it is. It's a shame cause there are some cool places to live too.

And actually, yeah, unbelievable weather so far. It frosted yesterday morning and was 33 or so, I figured we had seen the last of the unseasonable weather. But then I went outside today... it's like 57... and supposed to be in the 60s tomorrow! Crazy for this time of year. I like living here - it's cheap, easy to get around, concerts come here, love my maligned sports teams, my friends are all here.. I'll be fine livin here if I need to indefinitely. I don't think I could do Florida cause of the summers.

[Sarah]

Commercials that are made with the intention of being the best commercials of the year are like 8000x more interesting than football.

Dean has a point regarding the need to attract viewers that wouldn't normally watch because they don't care about the SB teams.

[StevePerryHair]

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Oh yeah, I had a bunch of scary drives home around holiday breaks, especially Xmas... I had to go through Erie/Meadville/the rest of that little area in PA, then into the snow belt in eastern Ohio all the way, then finally home. When I say west side, I live in Westlake... I don't live in the city. It's too shitty now, especially with the economy the way it is. It's a shame cause there are some cool places to live too.

And actually, yeah, unbelievable weather so far. It frosted yesterday morning and was 33 or so, I figured we had seen the last of the unseasonable weather. But then I went outside today... it's like 57... and supposed to be in the 60s tomorrow! Crazy for this time of year. I like living here - it's cheap, easy to get around, concerts come here, love my maligned sports teams, my friends are all here.. I'll be fine livin here if I need to indefinitely. I don't think I could do Florida cause of the summers.

Well, I see the summers as a trade off. We stayed inside in the heat during the long winter there, here I stay in the AC in the summer. We don't have to layer up to go out or worry about how the roads will be. It's not so bad. And Orlando's a good place to be with being near enough to the beaches, ports for cruising, and the theme parks for the kids.

BUT, Florida pay sucks and cost of living is NOT cheap! One thing I loved about Cleveland was my pay! My student pay at that hospital in Cleveland was $2 higher than what STARTED with here in Florida when I moved. Pretty sad! My friends in Cleveland were making $5/hour more than me up there, and cost of living and homes are cheaper up there. The midwest is cheaper! I'll be in Cincy in a week, visiting cousins, and I know it's the same there. Lower cost of living, but decent pay. That would be the worst thing about living here! They tell us we are paid in "sunshine" Like that pays the bills!!