OFFICIAL NFL Week by Week Thread:

[YoungJRNY]

Sorry. I really didn't care who won the Green Bay- Arizona team as I like both squads, but there was CLEARLY an illegal 15-yard penalty helmet-to-helmet hit that is called 99.99% of the time that would have negated the holding penalty. I wouldn't be surprised if he got fined by the NFL for that one. And there is NO excuse for not calling the blatantly obvious 15-yard unsporstmanlike facemask penalty on the last play of the game that should have given Green Bay a first down at the Cards' 43 (since the holding call would have been wiped out). The refs really did ruin this game and stole it from the Packers.

I'm not one to badger refs, but for once I agree they missed MANY calls that SHOULD have favored Green Bay in every way. That helmet to helmet was RIDICULOUS and that facemask was also apparent. They also missed an unsportsmanlike conduct WAY after the play when an Arizona player BLATANTLY shoved a Packers player right on the ground a good 3 seconds after the whistle was blown. This isn't your typical judgment call, or phantom calls.. these were calls that SHOULD have been made, period and it cost the Packers a 2nd round trip.

[lights1961]

Sorry. I really didn't care who won the Green Bay- Arizona team as I like both squads, but there was CLEARLY an illegal 15-yard penalty helmet-to-helmet hit that is called 99.99% of the time that would have negated the holding penalty. I wouldn't be surprised if he got fined by the NFL for that one. And there is NO excuse for not calling the blatantly obvious 15-yard unsporstmanlike facemask penalty on the last play of the game that should have given Green Bay a first down at the Cards' 43 (since the holding call would have been wiped out). The refs really did ruin this game and stole it from the Packers.

I'm not one to badger refs, but for once I agree they missed MANY calls that SHOULD have favored Green Bay in every way. That helmet to helmet was RIDICULOUS and that facemask was also apparent. They also missed an unsportsmanlike conduct WAY after the play when an Arizona player BLATANTLY shoved a Packers player right on the ground a good 3 seconds after the whistle was blown. This isn't your typical judgment call, or phantom calls.. these were calls that SHOULD have been made, period and it cost the Packers a 2nd round trip.

there were many Fitzgerald running over Woodson on routes that should have been called too.. but never were... just over all a BAD officals crew... But love Rogers here... when he said he made too many of his own mistakes, to get too caught up in the refs non calls... I am excited now as I ever have been in an off season as am right now for 2010!!

[Ehwmatt]

Sorry. I really didn't care who won the Green Bay- Arizona team as I like both squads, but there was CLEARLY an illegal 15-yard penalty helmet-to-helmet hit that is called 99.99% of the time that would have negated the holding penalty. I wouldn't be surprised if he got fined by the NFL for that one. And there is NO excuse for not calling the blatantly obvious 15-yard unsporstmanlike facemask penalty on the last play of the game that should have given Green Bay a first down at the Cards' 43 (since the holding call would have been wiped out). The refs really did ruin this game and stole it from the Packers.

I'm not one to badger refs, but for once I agree they missed MANY calls that SHOULD have favored Green Bay in every way. That helmet to helmet was RIDICULOUS and that facemask was also apparent. They also missed an unsportsmanlike conduct WAY after the play when an Arizona player BLATANTLY shoved a Packers player right on the ground a good 3 seconds after the whistle was blown. This isn't your typical judgment call, or phantom calls.. these were calls that SHOULD have been made, period and it cost the Packers a 2nd round trip.

there were many Fitzgerald running over Woodson on routes that should have been called too.. but never were... just over all a BAD officals crew... But love Rogers here... when he said he made too many of his own mistakes, to get too caught up in the refs non calls... I am excited now as I ever have been in an off season as am right now for 2010!!

This guy is young, mature, talented, and has a winning attitude (no excuses). There is MUCH to look forward to in Packerland.

[Red13JoePa]

McNabb's overrated Eagles career ends on a pick!!!! Ironical, innit?

[AlteredDNA]

McNabb's overrated Eagles career ends on a pick!!!! Ironical, innit?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4816179

[Red13JoePa]

McNabb's overrated Eagles career ends on a pick!!!! Ironical, innit?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4816179

Eyewash to drive up whatever trade value's left for his overweight ass---radio man Mike Missanelli in Philly likened him to "a stuffed pepper" trying to move around in the pocket.
Reid also said he was satisfied w/ their recievers a month before trading for TO.

[Since 78]

McNabb's overrated Eagles career ends on a pick!!!! Ironical, innit?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4816179

Eyewash to drive up whatever trade value's left for his overweight ass---radio man Mike Missanelli in Philly likened him to "a stuffed pepper" trying to move around in the pocket.
Reid also said he was satisfied w/ their recievers a month before trading for TO.

To much Chunky Soup, I hate those commercials!

[RossValoryRocks]

Sorry. I really didn't care who won the Green Bay- Arizona team as I like both squads, but there was CLEARLY an illegal 15-yard penalty helmet-to-helmet hit that is called 99.99% of the time that would have negated the holding penalty. I wouldn't be surprised if he got fined by the NFL for that one. And there is NO excuse for not calling the blatantly obvious 15-yard unsporstmanlike facemask penalty on the last play of the game that should have given Green Bay a first down at the Cards' 43 (since the holding call would have been wiped out). The refs really did ruin this game and stole it from the Packers.

I actually don't disagree with you about the calls being bad, or non-calls as it were...however...I do need to point out that if the offense commits a penalty, and the D does as well, no matter which is the more serious of the calls, they offset and they play the down over. So they wouldn't have gotten the ball at the Card's 43 as you contend...

Just saying...

[X factor]

Man I am LLLLOOOOVVVVINNNGGGG how the media is sleeping on the Saints right now. Everyone from Mike and Mike to Jerome friggin Bettis has the Cardinals winning easy. Here's a question though- if Arizona let's Green Bay's carve them up for 45 points, what the hell do they think a rested and healthy Saints team is gonna do to them? Sorry, I think the talking heads are way off on this one. The Cardinals have been bi-polar all season, and they've only blown out two teams (the Bears and the Rams), while losing to San Fran TWICE (as late as Dec 14th.)
They had a great offensive game against the Packers, but I think the Saints are gonna pick that secondary apart!

Of course if old Man Warner bushwhacks em this weekend, I'm gonna be eating a mighty big plate of crow.
Geaux Saints!

[Ehwmatt]

Man I am LLLLOOOOVVVVINNNGGGG how the media is sleeping on the Saints right now. Everyone from Mike and Mike to Jerome friggin Bettis has the Cardinals winning easy. Here's a question though- if Arizona let's Green Bay's carve them up for 45 points, what the hell do they think a rested and healthy Saints team is gonna do to them? Sorry, I think the talking heads are way off on this one. The Cardinals have been bi-polar all season, and they've only blown out two teams (the Bears and the Rams), while losing to San Fran TWICE (as late as Dec 14th.)
They had a great offensive game against the Packers, but I think the Saints are gonna pick that secondary apart!

Of course if old Man Warner bushwhacks em this weekend, I'm gonna be eating a mighty big plate of crow.
Geaux Saints!

I love Warner AND Brees. Two classy athletes with (obviously) a lot of game. I'm fine with either winning. That said, the Saints were anything but stellar really the whole second half of the season. I'm expecting a battle...

[X factor]

Man I am LLLLOOOOVVVVINNNGGGG how the media is sleeping on the Saints right now. Everyone from Mike and Mike to Jerome friggin Bettis has the Cardinals winning easy. Here's a question though- if Arizona let's Green Bay's carve them up for 45 points, what the hell do they think a rested and healthy Saints team is gonna do to them? Sorry, I think the talking heads are way off on this one. The Cardinals have been bi-polar all season, and they've only blown out two teams (the Bears and the Rams), while losing to San Fran TWICE (as late as Dec 14th.)
They had a great offensive game against the Packers, but I think the Saints are gonna pick that secondary apart!

Of course if old Man Warner bushwhacks em this weekend, I'm gonna be eating a mighty big plate of crow.
Geaux Saints!

I love Warner AND Brees. Two classy athletes with (obviously) a lot of game. I'm fine with either winning. That said, the Saints were anything but stellar really the whole second half of the season. I'm expecting a battle...

Agreed, on both counts. Warner was inspiring last week, no doubt. And he's a classy dude. And the Saints did back into the playoffs. BUT they had a ton of injuries (most of which are going to play this week) and I'm just tired tf the press shitting on the favorites.

[YoungJRNY]

The Cards certainly have the tools to take down EVERYBODY and ANYBODY at this stage in the game. Even though they can't afford to get into a shootout, because the Saints D can make you pay in that respect, I certainly expect the Cards to put on a good show and they will NOT be an easy out. The Saints have their hands full, as well as vice versa with the Cards. It's tough to go against Brees and the Saints in the Dome, but I wouldn't be shocked if the Cards win it all this year.

Upsets are on the horizon and we might see 2 this weekend. I might go as far to say the Jets could upset SD since it's bound to happen.

[JasonD]

I got a rookie Carlos Baerga card that my dad once gave to me. Is that worth anything?

[Frontiers65]

GO CARDS!

[RedWingFan]

Sorry. I really didn't care who won the Green Bay- Arizona team as I like both squads, but there was CLEARLY an illegal 15-yard penalty helmet-to-helmet hit that is called 99.99% of the time that would have negated the holding penalty. I wouldn't be surprised if he got fined by the NFL for that one. And there is NO excuse for not calling the blatantly obvious 15-yard unsporstmanlike facemask penalty on the last play of the game that should have given Green Bay a first down at the Cards' 43 (since the holding call would have been wiped out). The refs really did ruin this game and stole it from the Packers.

I actually don't disagree with you about the calls being bad, or non-calls as it were...however...I do need to point out that if the offense commits a penalty, and the D does as well, no matter which is the more serious of the calls, they offset and they play the down over. So they wouldn't have gotten the ball at the Card's 43 as you contend...

Just saying...

Actually Stu I think Personal foul calls are enforced unless there are personel foul calls on both sides. The down is replayed if for example a defender lines up in the neutral zone (5 yard penalty) and offensive holding (10 yard). That's replayed, but I'm pretty sure an offensive holding and a facemask or blow to the head results in a 15 yard penalty on the defense.

[Ehwmatt]

This guy is one of my least favorite writers for The Cleveland Plain Dealer, but this isn't a bad piece on how commercial breaks are absurd in NFL telecasts these days.

Give it a read and give your thoughts here

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/ind ... ial_f.html

[Rick]

This guy is one of my least favorite writers for The Cleveland Plain Dealer, but this isn't a bad piece on how commercial breaks are absurd in NFL telecasts these days.

Give it a read and give your thoughts here

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/ind ... ial_f.html

Realizing that commercials are a necessary evil, I still can't believe that the NFL couldn't speed up the pace of the games a bit. I mean really, some games drag on and on. The worst is when they come back from a commercial break only to realize that the Coach is making an instant replay review, we get double whammy of fucking "This is Our Country" or some shit. Those commercials ruined that song for me and then the song ruined the commercial if you get my point. By the second quarter I wished Mellencamp and GM were in hell. Excruciating!

[YoungJRNY]

ARI @ N.O- Saints by 17

Balty @ INDY- Indy by 11

DAL @ MINNY- Minny by 10

N.Y JETS @ S.D- Upset: N.Y JETS by 4. Going out on a limb.

Gotta go! Cya guys tonight.

[X factor]

WHO DAT????

[Ehwmatt]

This is really just an awful playoffs so far. 1 good game out of 6. It just goes to prove the overall mediocrity of the NFL through and through this season with the exception of the elite teams. I'm not anticipating the Jets giving the Chargers much of a run for their money tomorrow. I do think Cowboys Vikes could end up bein a great game, but who knows. This sucks.

[squirt1]

Way to go Colts ! I am glad we don't have to play you 2 x a yr and get to play the Ravens instead.

[AlteredDNA]

This is really just an awful playoffs so far. 1 good game out of 6. It just goes to prove the overall mediocrity of the NFL through and through this season with the exception of the elite teams. I'm not anticipating the Jets giving the Chargers much of a run for their money tomorrow. I do think Cowboys Vikes could end up bein a great game, but who knows. This sucks.

Unless your team is winning...

[S2M]

Saints were 'lucky'....that was a god awful hit on Warner. And led to part of AZ's meltdown. If not for those 2 return TDs, and the non-call on that agregious hit on Warner this is a close game....Don't forget, Saints had many 3 and outs too.

As far as the Indy-Balty game....Indy better play better if they want to represent the AFC in the big show.....Baltimore beats NE, Indy BARELY beats NE, but Indy smokes Balty.....

Can we have 11 games of GB-AZ please?


Detroit '11

[Ehwmatt]

This is really just an awful playoffs so far. 1 good game out of 6. It just goes to prove the overall mediocrity of the NFL through and through this season with the exception of the elite teams. I'm not anticipating the Jets giving the Chargers much of a run for their money tomorrow. I do think Cowboys Vikes could end up bein a great game, but who knows. This sucks.

Unless your team is winning...

Being a Browns fan, I've learned to just enjoy the playoffs for the drama, and that's severely lacking for the most part.

[Michigan Girl]

This is really just an awful playoffs so far. 1 good game out of 6. It just goes to prove the overall mediocrity of the NFL through and through this season with the exception of the elite teams. I'm not anticipating the Jets giving the Chargers much of a run for their money tomorrow. I do think Cowboys Vikes could end up bein a great game, but who knows. This sucks.

Unless your team is winning...

lol....

[YoungJRNY]

I wouldn't say the NFL playoffs this season sucks and is boring, because regardless it has that magic in the air and the NFL playoffs are captivating to an audience, at least for me anyway. As for the games, I've said it all season, besides the obvious elite in the league in 2009, there is a MAJOR dropoff from 1.. to even the top 5 teams in the league.

The wild cards are TERRIBLE and the division winners aren't any better, besides the first 2 seeds of each Conference. Even the number 3 and 4 seeds are mediocre at best. (N.E, Balty, Cincy, Philly, ARI, GB, Jets,) all below average in one form or another and it certainly shows in the playoff performances and how these games are turning out, mis match wise. Besides the Pack/ARI game, which, to a fan was the most entertaining and wild, from a football standpoint, it was a mess, as was the Ravens against the Colts, Cincy against the Jets, ARI against the Saints, N.E against Balty, and Philly against Dallas. It's the teams we've known were elite all season that are taking care of business and the rest just fade in the sunset. An upset has to be coming, and it has to be major. If not, the favorites deserve it and we'll certainly make up for it in the Super Bowl with two elites!

[Ehwmatt]

I wouldn't say the NFL playoffs this season sucks and is boring, because regardless it has that magic in the air and the NFL playoffs are captivating to an audience, at least for me anyway. As for the games, I've said it all season, besides the obvious elite in the league in 2009, there is a MAJOR dropoff from 1.. to even the top 5 teams in the league.

I get what you're saying, but there's no "magic in the air" for 20-3 blowout or mistake-laden, heartless whimperfests like Cincy-Jets, NE-Balty, Phi-Dallas etc. Just terrible so far.

They suck so far, that's all there is to it. We should get some better games moving forward though.

I'm expecting this Vikes-Dallas game to continue to be exciting and expecting to be able to turn off the TV after one half in San Diego. No way that game's gonna be any good. I hope I eat crow, I wanna watch good football today.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

God whos that young kid that the Vikings have in at QB

Please dont go dig out my posts from August when I was moaning about how Farve would do nothing for the Vikes !

[X factor]

Saints were 'lucky'....that was a god awful hit on Warner. And led to part of AZ's meltdown. If not for those 2 return TDs, and the non-call on that agregious hit on Warner this is a close game....Don't forget, Saints had many 3 and outs too.

As far as the Indy-Balty game....Indy better play better if they want to represent the AFC in the big show.....Baltimore beats NE, Indy BARELY beats NE, but Indy smokes Balty.....

Can we have 11 games of GB-AZ please?


Detroit '11

Yeah, the Saints were really lucky! If not for those two return tds, Bree's 250 yds and three td passes, holding Kurt Warner to 200 yds passing, and a stifling defense that forced 2 turnovers...yeah, they were real lucky!
45-14 - we call that a rout in my neighborhood!

and btw- every analyst that saw it called the hit on Warner clean.

[Ehwmatt]

I think it's time for ....


Kit-na, Kit-na, Kit-na, Kit-na, Kit-na!