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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:15 am

Just remember-many of the recent arrests at Florida were players recruited by Ron Zook.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:18 am

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Gunbot wrote:There must be something in the water down in Gainsville. Remember Danny Rolling?


Danny Rolling was a drifter from Louisiana that ended up in Gainesville.

Why that name...what he did was awful, I pass by that house every day!!!
You are correct Tator~pooh, slime can come from all swamp areas!! :wink:
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:25 am

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Gunbot wrote:There must be something in the water down in Gainsville. Remember Danny Rolling?


Danny Rolling was a drifter from Louisiana that ended up in Gainesville.

Why that name...what he did was awful, I pass by that house every day!!!
You are correct Tator~pooh, slime comes from all swamp areas!! :wink:

I was in Gainesville during that time. I had a niece living at Gatorwood Apartments at the same time where he killed Manny Tobada and Tracy Paules. I remember standing in the parking lot and police all over the place. My sister calling everyone frantically looking for my niece.....the fear in that city....I will never forget that.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:26 am

ScarabGator wrote:Just remember-many of the recent arrests at Florida were players recruited by Ron Zook.


The same ones who won the MNCs you always crow about!
Can't say " if they're shitty people blame Ron Zook!!!" while saying "I LOVE THESE PLAYERS THEY ARE THE BEST EVAR!!!!!!!"
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:27 am

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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:31 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Just remember-many of the recent arrests at Florida were players recruited by Ron Zook.


The same ones who won the MNCs you always crow about!
Can't say " if they're shitty people blame Ron Zook!!!" while saying "I LOVE THESE PLAYERS THEY ARE THE BEST EVAR!!!!!!!"


yeah, whatever. Why dont you come down to Florida and get your boy Babik out of here.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:46 am

I'll echo what Saint John said. He was fine under Penn State's watch.
What happened when he got to Gainseville?

BTW, I've faced this fact with Darly Clark, when will you face it with "Jesus" down there? Tebow will never throw an NFL pass as a qb.
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:50 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I'll echo what Saint John said. He was fine under Penn State's watch.
What happened when he got to Gainseville?

BTW, I've faced this fact with Darly Clark, when will you face it with "Jesus" down there? Tebow will never throw an NFL pass as a qb.


I shall beg to differ...all indications are right now my boy Tebow will go 1st round. Research it on ESPN if u want so you dont think Im looking thru Gator colored glasses.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:46 pm

"First Round :roll: " as what?
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Postby Don » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:53 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:"First Round :roll: " as what?


Peter King is saying there are two coaches (of teams with winning records) who say Tebow won't get past them in the first round.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:10 pm

Gunbot wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:"First Round :roll: " as what?


Peter King is saying there are two coaches (of teams with winning records) who say Tebow won't get past them in the first round.


Again, as WHAT?
But even so, an ubsubstantiated "report" claming coaches with "winning records" will draft Jesus "in the first round."

MAYBE as a TE (project) or an HBack (project) or a linebacker (project) or a safety (project) as is frequently the case with a late early round "athlete."

Again teams wary of his impending bustiness will not draft him in the first round (still a reach as an athlete IMO) and try to call him a "Quarterback." May he awkwardly be called upon to flop one of those ducks he flings off his hip (most likely to have it picked 6 the other way as he is detected as a 1/2 dimensional player, too unathletic, big and slow to play other spots to inept mechanically to play NFL qb) he will be called a "wildcat" or "wildcat back" or something and "preaching," pumping gas, or maybe cashing checks some other way by 2013-14.
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Postby Don » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:13 pm

Kickoff team, placekicker holder, wildcat package?
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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:22 pm

No, RedJoey, after his stellar and record breaking QB performance in the Sugar Bowl he is being looked at as QB. Ive read about several teams that would take him as a QB. Jax, Oakland, Buffalo just to name a few.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:32 am

ScarabGator wrote:No, RedJoey, after his stellar and record breaking QB performance in the Sugar Bowl he is being looked at as QB. Ive read about several teams that would take him as a QB. Jax, Oakland, Buffalo just to name a few.


And I've read as much stuff that says he's not viewed as an NFL qb.

An all-time great college QB? Absolutely and I will remember his 4 years in the NCAA fondly.
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Postby ScarabGator » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:48 am

It seems lately his stock is higher than its ever been. I hope he gets a shot to play QB. I dont think he'll let anyone down.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:42 am

Gunbot wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:"First Round :roll: " as what?


Peter King is saying there are two coaches (of teams with winning records) who say Tebow won't get past them in the first round.



Is King still sticking by this I wonder?
Reports are coming out of the senior bowl practices that scouts are horrified by his elongated mechanics and awkwardness with the under center snap. I am hearing 3rd to 5th.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:44 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
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Red13JoePa wrote:"First Round :roll: " as what?


Peter King is saying there are two coaches (of teams with winning records) who say Tebow won't get past them in the first round.



Is King still sticking by this I wonder?
Reports are coming out of the senior bowl practices that scouts are horrified by his elongated mechanics and awkwardness with the under center snap. I am hearing 3rd to 5th.


Why the fuck would it take the Senior Bowl to show them this in the first place, god only knows
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:49 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:"First Round :roll: " as what?


Peter King is saying there are two coaches (of teams with winning records) who say Tebow won't get past them in the first round.



Is King still sticking by this I wonder?
Reports are coming out of the senior bowl practices that scouts are horrified by his elongated mechanics and awkwardness with the under center snap. I am hearing 3rd to 5th.


Why the fuck would it take the Senior Bowl to show them this in the first place, god only knows


I know, most actual impartial observers realized this but ESPN drove so much damn hype about him that some journalists just buy in by osmosis.
Same thing basically with the supposed "greatness" of Donovan McNabb.
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Postby RobbieG » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:38 am

ScarabGator wrote:No, RedJoey, after his stellar and record breaking QB performance in the Sugar Bowl he is being looked at as QB. Ive read about several teams that would take him as a QB. Jax, Oakland, Buffalo just to name a few.


Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:04 am EST
Tim Tebow meets his worst career fears in Senior Bowl debut

By Matt Hinton

On top of the technical issues NFL scouts have with Tim Tebow as a prospective pro quarterback, there's also the standard next-level complaint about "the system" -- specifically, among other things, that Tebow spent the entirety of his college career at Florida taking snaps from the shotgun, never from under center, even in short-yardage situations. That seemingly minor qualm opens up an entirely new avenue of doubts about his ability to adjust to basic mechanics like footwork and turning his back to the defense, fundamentals most quarterbacks have converted to second nature long before they show up for NFL auditions (or, in most cases, before they ever set foot in an actual college game).

Florida tried to address that last year by hiring respected quarterbacks coach Scott Loeffler from the pro ranks, practicing with Tebow under center and having him take a handful of "conventional" snaps in a few games, all with an eye to making the most celebrated college player in modern history a more viable prospect to the skeptics. But when he showed up Monday for the first day of heavy scrutiny at the Senior Bowl, all the old alarm bells started ringing at maximum volume -- Tebow reportedly flubbed his first snap from center, and it only got uglier from there:

Performing drills with fellow South team quarterbacks Zac Robinson of Oklahoma State and Jarrett Brown of West Virginia, Tebow fumbled the ball at least twice while taking snaps under center.

Later in team drills, Tebow fell into his same old habits — holding onto the ball too long, locking onto receivers and throwing wobbly passes.

The scouts noticed.

"He looks like the third QB out there," one NFC South talent evaluator said.

Of course, the two QBs in front of him, Robinson and Brown, also come from shotgun-based spread schemes that featured a steady dose of quarterback-as-runner, and former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach -- as prominent an acolyte of the "college spread" as you can find -- hilariously mocked the NFL mantra when his prolific protegé, Graham Harrell, met with failing grades from the scouts last spring. ("How could you possibly look yourself in the mirror and consider yourself an NFL coach and not be able to teach a guy to run back three steps, five steps and seven steps? I can teach a child that!") Longtime coach and quarterback guru Marc Trestman, who worked with Tebow to prepare for this week, said he didn't think Tebow looked bad enough to hurt himself; Miami Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, overseeing the South roster, said Tebow improved over the course of the practice. If nothing else, he's already well on his way to replacing Brett Favre's spot in Peter King's heart in the league's most influential weekly column.

But for a guy who needed a knockout week, the initial reviews are unadulterated fuel for the haters. Handling the snap is supposed to be the easy part of the transition; if he's still struggling with the basic exchange on national television this Saturday, we won't be hearing the end of it anytime soon.


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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:14 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:"First Round :roll: " as what?


Peter King is saying there are two coaches (of teams with winning records) who say Tebow won't get past them in the first round.



Is King still sticking by this I wonder?
Reports are coming out of the senior bowl practices that scouts are horrified by his elongated mechanics and awkwardness with the under center snap. I am hearing 3rd to 5th.


Why the fuck would it take the Senior Bowl to show them this in the first place, god only knows


I know, most actual impartial observers realized this but ESPN drove so much damn hype about him that some journalists just buy in by osmosis.
Same thing basically with the supposed "greatness" of Donovan McNabb.



I'm officially ashamed of this post given the revelation of Tim Tebow's courageous public stance on the rights of the unborn.
The more I learn about this kid's composition the more amazing he seems.
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Postby Don » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:05 am

Late additions give Trojans recruiting title

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/co ... ID=1048162

The nation's top 10 recruiting classes for 2010:
1. USC
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Auburn
5. Alabama
6. LSU
7. Oklahoma
8. UCLA
9. Tennessee
10. Florida State
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