generations

[Vladan]

Me thinks it didn't take Perry a month to do one song.

You"thinks" a lot of things about him now that you didn't thinks for YEARS on this board.

There's the biggest douche, right on time. What a piece of shit you are.

Lol Deano, where did that come from, oh well. Back on topic, you know... this is one debate i'd like to end right now, with a clean and simple statment, it goes something like this...

And Revelation, Arrival, Generations, Constellations, Manipulation, ect... are missing something. You know like when you make a pasta salad, but for life of you, you can't find the pasta in the kitchen... so!? you make the food anyway, you eat it, sure it's filling, but it aint pasta... you survive, you get by.... barely. Generations is missing Steve Perry, that's it.

You know, we can go on and on, about how Journey was successfull before and after Steve Perry, but I don't see anyone raging on Infinity, Escape, Frontiers?... gee I wonder why.

Because they are actually good???.

Well Vlad, song quality has alot to do with that. If Back Talk had been on Generations and we could time machine it back to Frontiers for SP to sing on, it would still be a shit song. Arrival is a great album, just as good as most of their older albums. SP was great, but please, let's not get carried away and think songs like What It Takes to Win, Believe, or Better Together would be any better with SP. They wouldn't be.

I agree with you for the most, part, though I just think Steve Perry could sing anything that was a bad song, and make is great, he's the man. Perry could go take a dump in the toilet, and go and get the biggest liar and theif on the planet to just take a look inside the toilet bowl for 2 minutes, and that theif would come out an honest man, that's how awesome Steve Perry was.

First of all dude; pasta salad isn't pasta. It's a god damn salad. And from the looks of your McCain sized cheeks; lay of the carbs altogether. Second: Frontiers and Escape isn't that good. Journey were(was?) with Rollie.

You can't be serious about Perry; I mean, ok, he WAS arguably the best male vocalist ever, but he sure wasn't on Trial by Fire. The songs on Arrival is a lot better than what's on TBF, but I still think TBF trumps anything Journey put out post Perry - why? Cause Steve Smith lays down the best groove of his life. Castronovo will never be able to match Smith. Castronovo is a great addition to the band, don't get me wrong, but he got real poor timing and feel. The point is though; that TBF's only real weakness is mr. Kittens voice. That's it.

Man, you seriously got to wash those drenched panties of yours, and come join the real world. Steve Perry can't do it anymore.

Next...

[parfait]

Me thinks it didn't take Perry a month to do one song.

You"thinks" a lot of things about him now that you didn't thinks for YEARS on this board.

There's the biggest douche, right on time. What a piece of shit you are.

Lol Deano, where did that come from, oh well. Back on topic, you know... this is one debate i'd like to end right now, with a clean and simple statment, it goes something like this...

And Revelation, Arrival, Generations, Constellations, Manipulation, ect... are missing something. You know like when you make a pasta salad, but for life of you, you can't find the pasta in the kitchen... so!? you make the food anyway, you eat it, sure it's filling, but it aint pasta... you survive, you get by.... barely. Generations is missing Steve Perry, that's it.

You know, we can go on and on, about how Journey was successfull before and after Steve Perry, but I don't see anyone raging on Infinity, Escape, Frontiers?... gee I wonder why.

Because they are actually good???.

Well Vlad, song quality has alot to do with that. If Back Talk had been on Generations and we could time machine it back to Frontiers for SP to sing on, it would still be a shit song. Arrival is a great album, just as good as most of their older albums. SP was great, but please, let's not get carried away and think songs like What It Takes to Win, Believe, or Better Together would be any better with SP. They wouldn't be.

I agree with you for the most, part, though I just think Steve Perry could sing anything that was a bad song, and make is great, he's the man. Perry could go take a dump in the toilet, and go and get the biggest liar and theif on the planet to just take a look inside the toilet bowl for 2 minutes, and that theif would come out an honest man, that's how awesome Steve Perry was.

First of all dude; pasta salad isn't pasta. It's a god damn salad. And from the looks of your McCain sized cheeks; lay of the carbs altogether. Second: Frontiers and Escape isn't that good. Journey were(was?) with Rollie.

You can't be serious about Perry; I mean, ok, he WAS arguably the best male vocalist ever, but he sure wasn't on Trial by Fire. The songs on Arrival is a lot better than what's on TBF, but I still think TBF trumps anything Journey put out post Perry - why? Cause Steve Smith lays down the best groove of his life. Castronovo will never be able to match Smith. Castronovo is a great addition to the band, don't get me wrong, but he got real poor timing and feel. The point is though; that TBF's only real weakness is mr. Kittens voice. That's it.

Man, you seriously got to wash those drenched panties of yours, and come join the real world. Steve Perry can't do it anymore.

When I'm in the need for some "me time" I start of with some scented candles. Usually lavender - gosh, I just love that smell. Then I usually eat some cookie dough, cause you know what they say; if you like it, it's good for you! After being all full in ma tummy, I grab some toilet paper(hihi) and sit down in my recliner. Lately I've listened to Colors of the Spirit; mr. Kittens velvety voice and the animal sounds just get to me, like for real. My cocktail wiener is all hot and ready, so it doesn't take long before... You know... "A girl can't help it". I luckily got a lot of printed out Perry pics at hand, so that "me time" always ends with a bit of a money shot, Nostrildamus and Vladan style. Gosh, I know it ain't real, but you know... I won't stop believing! *giggly giggly*

Dude... Seriously... I was trying to have a serious discussion here, but that shit is sick. Thanks for totally ruin the topic. Next!

[squirt1]

As long time Journey fan, I just could never accept anything post ROR. Perry would have laughed at performing this bunch of overly weepy songs. He may have sang Remember Me, but not rest. If you have never seen Perry live, then go ahead & pay for less. Just look at their sales and the size of the concert venues. They are just coasting their way out and couldn't draw a crowd w/o pkg themselves with other has been bands. Still, it is some $$$$$. Styx w/o Dennis, Foreigner w/o Lou are not the same quality. Who wants to pay to see Aerosmith w/o Tyler? Not me !! I do realize that most of you are young and don't know any better. I also know that people want to see bands that can really play live and did the writing. The last 15 yrs have been abysmal . I feel sorry that you don't have what we had.

[Rockindeano]

As long time Journey fan, I just could never accept anything post ROR. Perry would have laughed at performing this bunch of overly weepy songs. He may have sang Remember Me, but not rest. If you have never seen Perry live, then go ahead & pay for less. Just look at their sales and the size of the concert venues. They are just coasting their way out and couldn't draw a crowd w/o pkg themselves with other has been bands. Still, it is some $$$$$. Styx w/o Dennis, Foreigner w/o Lou are not the same quality. Who wants to pay to see Aerosmith w/o Tyler? Not me !! I do realize that most of you are young and don't know any better. I also know that people want to see bands that can really play live and did the writing. The last 15 yrs have been abysmal . I feel sorry that you don't have what we had.

Come on now Squirty..that sounds sexually hot doesn't it? Anyway, Perry, as good as he was, wasn't the deep writer of lyrics. He sang a lot, if not most puffy poppy shit around. I am quick to jump modern day Journey, but I have to go on record as saying no on this one. Perry is not a great songwriter. When Perry writes a serious song about society and current day events, it will be the first. Bow mind you, Friga has the same fuckin words and phrases in every song. he needs to change it up. Saving Grace, Timeless memories, faded photographs..WTF? I can write better shit than he can, honest to God.

[kgdjpubs]

As long time Journey fan, I just could never accept anything post ROR. Perry would have laughed at performing this bunch of overly weepy songs. He may have sang Remember Me, but not rest. If you have never seen Perry live, then go ahead & pay for less. Just look at their sales and the size of the concert venues. They are just coasting their way out and couldn't draw a crowd w/o pkg themselves with other has been bands. Still, it is some $$$$$. Styx w/o Dennis, Foreigner w/o Lou are not the same quality. Who wants to pay to see Aerosmith w/o Tyler? Not me !! I do realize that most of you are young and don't know any better. I also know that people want to see bands that can really play live and did the writing. The last 15 yrs have been abysmal . I feel sorry that you don't have what we had.

you may be right....but even if Perry was fronting Journey, it wouldn't be 1981, 1986 or even 1996. He's not the same--nobody is. For whatever reason it was, he was having trouble with the catalogue tuned down in 1994. Some nights he was pretty incredible, some nights he was ok, and there was the abysmal show here and there also. His solo band didn't do him any favors trying to play Journey either.

I've seen Foreigner with Lou Gramm a few times towards the end. He was struggling mightily, and there was no magic out there. I respected him to no end for trying after what happened, but he had no business being out there. He's gotten better now, but from a pure show perspective, the current version of Foreigner is probably better.

Either way, Perry at 60 would not be what you remembered. Maybe that's why he hasn't done anything--it wouldn't be what everybody would hold him to, and he knows it. It might be good, it might be bad, but it would be different. If the band hates each other, you certainly aren't going to get that chemistry. Hardly any band from the 80s is getting publicity--and there's no guarantee they would even with Perry. Publicity = sales = concert attendance.

Without him, it isn't the same, and it was never going to be. There is good and bad to that. It will work for some. It won't work for others. For many people though, it's not Perry or anybody else. It's the songs, and they will survive long after all the original people are gone. Look at the reaction of people when Don't Stop Believin' is played in an arena--it's electrifying. Maybe it doesn't work for you, but being able to make people happy is a lost art. Don't deny it for others.

[Rockindeano]

As long time Journey fan, I just could never accept anything post ROR. Perry would have laughed at performing this bunch of overly weepy songs. He may have sang Remember Me, but not rest. If you have never seen Perry live, then go ahead & pay for less. Just look at their sales and the size of the concert venues. They are just coasting their way out and couldn't draw a crowd w/o pkg themselves with other has been bands. Still, it is some $$$$$. Styx w/o Dennis, Foreigner w/o Lou are not the same quality. Who wants to pay to see Aerosmith w/o Tyler? Not me !! I do realize that most of you are young and don't know any better. I also know that people want to see bands that can really play live and did the writing. The last 15 yrs have been abysmal . I feel sorry that you don't have what we had.

you may be right....but even if Perry was fronting Journey, it wouldn't be 1981, 1986 or even 1996. He's not the same--nobody is. For whatever reason it was, he was having trouble with the catalogue tuned down in 1994. Some nights he was pretty incredible, some nights he was ok, and there was the abysmal show here and there also. His solo band didn't do him any favors trying to play Journey either.

I've seen Foreigner with Lou Gramm a few times towards the end. He was struggling mightily, and there was no magic out there. I respected him to no end for trying after what happened, but he had no business being out there. He's gotten better now, but from a pure show perspective, the current version of Foreigner is probably better.

Either way, Perry at 60 would not be what you remembered. Maybe that's why he hasn't done anything--it wouldn't be what everybody would hold him to, and he knows it. It might be good, it might be bad, but it would be different. If the band hates each other, you certainly aren't going to get that chemistry. Hardly any band from the 80s is getting publicity--and there's no guarantee they would even with Perry. Publicity = sales = concert attendance.

Without him, it isn't the same, and it was never going to be. There is good and bad to that. It will work for some. It won't work for others. For many people though, it's not Perry or anybody else. It's the songs, and they will survive long after all the original people are gone. Look at the reaction of people when Don't Stop Believin' is played in an arena--it's electrifying. Maybe it doesn't work for you, but being able to make people happy is a lost art. Don't deny it for others.

So what you're saying is Perry is a victim, and rightfully so, of his own voice. He screwed himself with his ungodly vocals 1978-1994?

He isn't in say, Springsteen's situation, where this type of thing doesn't exist. Bruce can still sing his songs and even better now...and that's worthy of discussion on it's own..at 60, he is better than he was at 30. But Perry was so good, he fucked himself, right? Is that what you are saying?

[Ehwmatt]

As long time Journey fan, I just could never accept anything post ROR. Perry would have laughed at performing this bunch of overly weepy songs. He may have sang Remember Me, but not rest. If you have never seen Perry live, then go ahead & pay for less. Just look at their sales and the size of the concert venues. They are just coasting their way out and couldn't draw a crowd w/o pkg themselves with other has been bands. Still, it is some $$$$$. Styx w/o Dennis, Foreigner w/o Lou are not the same quality. Who wants to pay to see Aerosmith w/o Tyler? Not me !! I do realize that most of you are young and don't know any better. I also know that people want to see bands that can really play live and did the writing. The last 15 yrs have been abysmal . I feel sorry that you don't have what we had.

you may be right....but even if Perry was fronting Journey, it wouldn't be 1981, 1986 or even 1996. He's not the same--nobody is. For whatever reason it was, he was having trouble with the catalogue tuned down in 1994. Some nights he was pretty incredible, some nights he was ok, and there was the abysmal show here and there also. His solo band didn't do him any favors trying to play Journey either.

I've seen Foreigner with Lou Gramm a few times towards the end. He was struggling mightily, and there was no magic out there. I respected him to no end for trying after what happened, but he had no business being out there. He's gotten better now, but from a pure show perspective, the current version of Foreigner is probably better.

Either way, Perry at 60 would not be what you remembered. Maybe that's why he hasn't done anything--it wouldn't be what everybody would hold him to, and he knows it. It might be good, it might be bad, but it would be different. If the band hates each other, you certainly aren't going to get that chemistry. Hardly any band from the 80s is getting publicity--and there's no guarantee they would even with Perry. Publicity = sales = concert attendance.

Without him, it isn't the same, and it was never going to be. There is good and bad to that. It will work for some. It won't work for others. For many people though, it's not Perry or anybody else. It's the songs, and they will survive long after all the original people are gone. Look at the reaction of people when Don't Stop Believin' is played in an arena--it's electrifying. Maybe it doesn't work for you, but being able to make people happy is a lost art. Don't deny it for others.

So what you're saying is Perry is a victim, and rightfully so, of his own voice. He screwed himself with his ungodly vocals 1978-1994?

He isn't in say, Springsteen's situation, where this type of thing doesn't exist. Bruce can still sing his songs and even better now...and that's worthy of discussion on it's own..at 60, he is better than he was at 30. But Perry was so good, he fucked himself, right? Is that what you are saying?

I'm so drunk I can't even read what was written but suffice to say fuck al of you Higher Place is the best thing Journey ever did, with second-plcace mention to I'll Be Alright WIthout You soulful guitar outro and motown vocals on live version... too good

[Jana]

As long time Journey fan, I just could never accept anything post ROR. Perry would have laughed at performing this bunch of overly weepy songs. He may have sang Remember Me, but not rest. If you have never seen Perry live, then go ahead & pay for less. Just look at their sales and the size of the concert venues. They are just coasting their way out and couldn't draw a crowd w/o pkg themselves with other has been bands. Still, it is some $$$$$. Styx w/o Dennis, Foreigner w/o Lou are not the same quality. Who wants to pay to see Aerosmith w/o Tyler? Not me !! I do realize that most of you are young and don't know any better. I also know that people want to see bands that can really play live and did the writing. The last 15 yrs have been abysmal . I feel sorry that you don't have what we had.

you may be right....but even if Perry was fronting Journey, it wouldn't be 1981, 1986 or even 1996. He's not the same--nobody is. For whatever reason it was, he was having trouble with the catalogue tuned down in 1994. Some nights he was pretty incredible, some nights he was ok, and there was the abysmal show here and there also. His solo band didn't do him any favors trying to play Journey either.

I've seen Foreigner with Lou Gramm a few times towards the end. He was struggling mightily, and there was no magic out there. I respected him to no end for trying after what happened, but he had no business being out there. He's gotten better now, but from a pure show perspective, the current version of Foreigner is probably better.

Either way, Perry at 60 would not be what you remembered. Maybe that's why he hasn't done anything--it wouldn't be what everybody would hold him to, and he knows it. It might be good, it might be bad, but it would be different. If the band hates each other, you certainly aren't going to get that chemistry. Hardly any band from the 80s is getting publicity--and there's no guarantee they would even with Perry. Publicity = sales = concert attendance.

Without him, it isn't the same, and it was never going to be. There is good and bad to that. It will work for some. It won't work for others. For many people though, it's not Perry or anybody else. It's the songs, and they will survive long after all the original people are gone. Look at the reaction of people when Don't Stop Believin' is played in an arena--it's electrifying. Maybe it doesn't work for you, but being able to make people happy is a lost art. Don't deny it for others.

So what you're saying is Perry is a victim, and rightfully so, of his own voice. He screwed himself with his ungodly vocals 1978-1994?

He isn't in say, Springsteen's situation, where this type of thing doesn't exist. Bruce can still sing his songs and even better now...and that's worthy of discussion on it's own..at 60, he is better than he was at 30. But Perry was so good, he fucked himself, right? Is that what you are saying?

I'm so drunk I can't even read what was written but suffice to say fuck al of you Higher Place is the best thing Journey ever did, with second-plcace mention to I'll Be Alright WIthout You soulful guitar outro and motown vocals on live version... too good

Great song. And I thought it was fantastic they played Higher Place last year. Nice to see an Arrival song put in the setlist. I thought Arnel did a great job on it, and the band sounds fantastic on it.

Best sound youtube clip I could find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN7FPL4gOKk

[Jana]

Oh get off our fuckin cheerleading platform..It's sickening already Jana. For the love of fuck!

LOL. You're never happy, Deano. I post a deeper cut song in reply to Matt, and I'm cheerleading. Oh, excuse me, I thought I was in the Journey forum. How rude of me to post this. I stand by it, great song and the band rocked it out live, not that you bothered to listen to the clip.

[Red13JoePa]

Come on now Squirty..that sounds sexually hot doesn't it? Anyway, Perry, as good as he was, wasn't the deep writer of lyrics. He sang a lot, if not most puffy poppy shit around. I am quick to jump modern day Journey, but I have to go on record as saying no on this one. Perry is not a great songwriter. When Perry writes a serious song about society and current day events, it will be the first. Bow mind you, Friga has the same fuckin words and phrases in every song. he needs to change it up. Saving Grace, Timeless memories, faded photographs..WTF? I can write better shit than he can, honest to God.

This whole post is very true Deano.

And if I might amplify a little, perry's lyrical content's been pretty static, unchanging over the years. Keeps it fairly superficial, love and struggling through life etc but the lyrics always change.
The point about the Cainisms, man they're so plastic especially when they've been repeated from Arrival through Revelation now. I love all the songs and albums but certainly take notice by the third time on Revelation I hear Pineda sing about a woman who stood strong/stood your ground.
Trade some of them in next album.

[Ehwmatt]

Come on now Squirty..that sounds sexually hot doesn't it? Anyway, Perry, as good as he was, wasn't the deep writer of lyrics. He sang a lot, if not most puffy poppy shit around. I am quick to jump modern day Journey, but I have to go on record as saying no on this one. Perry is not a great songwriter. When Perry writes a serious song about society and current day events, it will be the first. Bow mind you, Friga has the same fuckin words and phrases in every song. he needs to change it up. Saving Grace, Timeless memories, faded photographs..WTF? I can write better shit than he can, honest to God.

This whole post is very true Deano.

And if I might amplify a little, perry's lyrical content's been pretty static, unchanging over the years. Keeps it fairly superficial, love and struggling through life etc but the lyrics always change.
The point about the Cainisms, man they're so plastic especially when they've been repeated from Arrival through Revelation now. I love all the songs and albums but certainly take notice by the third time on Revelation I hear Pineda sing about a woman who stood strong/stood your ground.
Trade some of them in next album.

I'm not really a big lyrical analyst - the only time I really care/notice is if they are cringe-worthy or particularly good. Anyway, I've always thought I'll be Alright Without You was a nice lyrical piece. It's certainly not filled with deep metaphor or any crazy social/current event references, but I do think it's a well-done song that speaks pretty loudly to losing someone.

Nothing groundbreaking in a line like "There'll be someone else... I keep tellin myself," but it's nice, simple, and evocative for me.

[brywool]

Come on now Squirty..that sounds sexually hot doesn't it? Anyway, Perry, as good as he was, wasn't the deep writer of lyrics. He sang a lot, if not most puffy poppy shit around. I am quick to jump modern day Journey, but I have to go on record as saying no on this one. Perry is not a great songwriter. When Perry writes a serious song about society and current day events, it will be the first. Bow mind you, Friga has the same fuckin words and phrases in every song. he needs to change it up. Saving Grace, Timeless memories, faded photographs..WTF? I can write better shit than he can, honest to God.

This whole post is very true Deano.

And if I might amplify a little, perry's lyrical content's been pretty static, unchanging over the years. Keeps it fairly superficial, love and struggling through life etc but the lyrics always change.
The point about the Cainisms, man they're so plastic especially when they've been repeated from Arrival through Revelation now. I love all the songs and albums but certainly take notice by the third time on Revelation I hear Pineda sing about a woman who stood strong/stood your ground.
Trade some of them in next album.

I'm not really a big lyrical analyst - the only time I really care/notice is if they are cringe-worthy or particularly good. Anyway, I've always thought I'll be Alright Without You was a nice lyrical piece. It's certainly not filled with deep metaphor or any crazy social/current event references, but I do think it's a well-done song that speaks pretty loudly to losing someone.

Nothing groundbreaking in a line like "There'll be someone else... I keep tellin myself," but it's nice, simple, and evocative for me.

Nice lyrics but whimpy song. I've NEVER understood Journey Fans' love of this song. Sounds like Foolish Heart sped up. It's OKAY but I'd much rather have "Raised on Radio" or "Girl Can't Help It". Cain's "Rhoadsy" sound... I just hated when bands went to that.

[Ehwmatt]

Come on now Squirty..that sounds sexually hot doesn't it? Anyway, Perry, as good as he was, wasn't the deep writer of lyrics. He sang a lot, if not most puffy poppy shit around. I am quick to jump modern day Journey, but I have to go on record as saying no on this one. Perry is not a great songwriter. When Perry writes a serious song about society and current day events, it will be the first. Bow mind you, Friga has the same fuckin words and phrases in every song. he needs to change it up. Saving Grace, Timeless memories, faded photographs..WTF? I can write better shit than he can, honest to God.

This whole post is very true Deano.

And if I might amplify a little, perry's lyrical content's been pretty static, unchanging over the years. Keeps it fairly superficial, love and struggling through life etc but the lyrics always change.
The point about the Cainisms, man they're so plastic especially when they've been repeated from Arrival through Revelation now. I love all the songs and albums but certainly take notice by the third time on Revelation I hear Pineda sing about a woman who stood strong/stood your ground.
Trade some of them in next album.

I'm not really a big lyrical analyst - the only time I really care/notice is if they are cringe-worthy or particularly good. Anyway, I've always thought I'll be Alright Without You was a nice lyrical piece. It's certainly not filled with deep metaphor or any crazy social/current event references, but I do think it's a well-done song that speaks pretty loudly to losing someone.

Nothing groundbreaking in a line like "There'll be someone else... I keep tellin myself," but it's nice, simple, and evocative for me.

Nice lyrics but whimpy song. I've NEVER understood Journey Fans' love of this song. Sounds like Foolish Heart sped up. It's OKAY but I'd much rather have "Raised on Radio" or "Girl Can't Help It". Cain's "Rhoadsy" sound... I just hated when bands went to that.

Well, I happen to like Foolish Heart decently. Are you a soul/Motown fan Bryan? I am, and that's why this song appeals to me so much. What a groove and what soulful guitaring and singing from Neal and Steve.

[kgdjpubs]

So what you're saying is Perry is a victim, and rightfully so, of his own voice. He screwed himself with his ungodly vocals 1978-1994?

He isn't in say, Springsteen's situation, where this type of thing doesn't exist. Bruce can still sing his songs and even better now...and that's worthy of discussion on it's own..at 60, he is better than he was at 30. But Perry was so good, he fucked himself, right? Is that what you are saying?

Knowing Perry being a perfectionist, it wouldn't surprise me--and it's just as likely as any other theory out there. Most singers that are a known quantity just don't disappear into the woodwork like Perry did--and he did it twice.

If Perry's holding himself to a standard he set, and he doesn't feel that he can reach that standard, I could see him walking away--especially if money isn't a driving force. If the best he can do is sing majorly tuned down (to the point that it would be very noticeable to an audience), it doesn't buy him anything to push himself. If true, it would be a raw deal for him, but his legacy is set--better to go out on top.


btw, I'll give it to you for Springsteen. Somewhere in there, he actually learned how to sing as opposed to the cookie monster mumbling he did for a long time Seriously, he does sound better now.

[kgdjpubs]

I'm not really a big lyrical analyst - the only time I really care/notice is if they are cringe-worthy or particularly good. Anyway, I've always thought I'll be Alright Without You was a nice lyrical piece. It's certainly not filled with deep metaphor or any crazy social/current event references, but I do think it's a well-done song that speaks pretty loudly to losing someone.

Nothing groundbreaking in a line like "There'll be someone else... I keep tellin myself," but it's nice, simple, and evocative for me.

Nice lyrics but whimpy song. I've NEVER understood Journey Fans' love of this song. Sounds like Foolish Heart sped up. It's OKAY but I'd much rather have "Raised on Radio" or "Girl Can't Help It". Cain's "Rhoadsy" sound... I just hated when bands went to that.

Well, I happen to like Foolish Heart decently. Are you a soul/Motown fan Bryan? I am, and that's why this song appeals to me so much. What a groove and what soulful guitaring and singing from Neal and Steve.

There's your answer right there. I always viewed Raised on Radio, the album, as Perry's attempt to make a Motown album. Mix Motown with Journey, and ROR is the result. If you've got an appreciation for Motown, you'll probably like that album--and I'll Be Alright... in particular. That song is pure soul/R&B.

[Ehwmatt]

I'm not really a big lyrical analyst - the only time I really care/notice is if they are cringe-worthy or particularly good. Anyway, I've always thought I'll be Alright Without You was a nice lyrical piece. It's certainly not filled with deep metaphor or any crazy social/current event references, but I do think it's a well-done song that speaks pretty loudly to losing someone.

Nothing groundbreaking in a line like "There'll be someone else... I keep tellin myself," but it's nice, simple, and evocative for me.

Nice lyrics but whimpy song. I've NEVER understood Journey Fans' love of this song. Sounds like Foolish Heart sped up. It's OKAY but I'd much rather have "Raised on Radio" or "Girl Can't Help It". Cain's "Rhoadsy" sound... I just hated when bands went to that.

Well, I happen to like Foolish Heart decently. Are you a soul/Motown fan Bryan? I am, and that's why this song appeals to me so much. What a groove and what soulful guitaring and singing from Neal and Steve.

There's your answer right there. I always viewed Raised on Radio, the album, as Perry's attempt to make a Motown album. Mix Motown with Journey, and ROR is the result. If you've got an appreciation for Motown, you'll probably like that album--and I'll Be Alright... in particular. That song is pure soul/R&B.

Yup. I really like a lot of RoR. It's not THE Journey sound obviously (aside from BGTYS), but I really enjoy hearing the different style when I'm in the mood.

[Vladan]

When I'm in the need for some "me time" I start of with some scented candles. Usually lavender - gosh, I just love that smell. Then I usually eat some cookie dough, cause you know what they say; if you like it, it's good for you! After being all full in ma tummy, I grab some toilet paper(hihi) and sit down in my recliner. Lately I've listened to Colors of the Spirit; mr. Kittens velvety voice and the animal sounds just get to me, like for real. My cocktail wiener is all hot and ready, so it doesn't take long before... You know... "A girl can't help it". I luckily got a lot of printed out Perry pics at hand, so that "me time" always ends with a bit of a money shot, Nostrildamus and Vladan style. Gosh, I know it ain't real, but you know... I won't stop believing! *giggly giggly*

Dude... Seriously... I was trying to have a serious discussion here, but that shit is sick. Thanks for totally ruin the topic. Next!

And just for the record Deano, I didn't write that quote, I know some of you may think I did, however I did not. Just clearing the air.

Cheers.

[steveo777]

When I'm in the need for some "me time" I start of with some scented candles. Usually lavender - gosh, I just love that smell. Then I usually eat some cookie dough, cause you know what they say; if you like it, it's good for you! After being all full in ma tummy, I grab some toilet paper(hihi) and sit down in my recliner. Lately I've listened to Colors of the Spirit; mr. Kittens velvety voice and the animal sounds just get to me, like for real. My cocktail wiener is all hot and ready, so it doesn't take long before... You know... "A girl can't help it". I luckily got a lot of printed out Perry pics at hand, so that "me time" always ends with a bit of a money shot, Nostrildamus and Vladan style. Gosh, I know it ain't real, but you know... I won't stop believing! *giggly giggly*

Dude... Seriously... I was trying to have a serious discussion here, but that shit is sick. Thanks for totally ruin the topic. Next!

And just for the record Deano, I didn't write that quote, I know some of you may think I did, however I did not. Just clearing the air.

Cheers.

I understand, your computer got hijacked.....happens all the time. Vladan, you are fucking weird man. Do you take meds for MPD? Most people who have that shit jump out of 23rd story windows or park in front of trains.

[parfait]

When I'm in the need for some "me time" I start of with some scented candles. Usually lavender - gosh, I just love that smell. Then I usually eat some cookie dough, cause you know what they say; if you like it, it's good for you! After being all full in ma tummy, I grab some toilet paper(hihi) and sit down in my recliner. Lately I've listened to Colors of the Spirit; mr. Kittens velvety voice and the animal sounds just get to me, like for real. My cocktail wiener is all hot and ready, so it doesn't take long before... You know... "A girl can't help it". I luckily got a lot of printed out Perry pics at hand, so that "me time" always ends with a bit of a money shot, Nostrildamus and Vladan style. Gosh, I know it ain't real, but you know... I won't stop believing! *giggly giggly*

Dude... Seriously... I was trying to have a serious discussion here, but that shit is sick. Thanks for totally ruin the topic. Next!

And just for the record Deano, I didn't write that quote, I know some of you may think I did, however I did not. Just clearing the air.

Cheers.

I understand, your computer got hijacked.....happens all the time. Vladan, you are fucking weird man. Do you take meds for MPD? Most people who have that shit jump out of 23rd story windows or park in front of trains.

Hey ho, midget-o. I wrote it, not Vladan.

[steveo777]

When I'm in the need for some "me time" I start of with some scented candles. Usually lavender - gosh, I just love that smell. Then I usually eat some cookie dough, cause you know what they say; if you like it, it's good for you! After being all full in ma tummy, I grab some toilet paper(hihi) and sit down in my recliner. Lately I've listened to Colors of the Spirit; mr. Kittens velvety voice and the animal sounds just get to me, like for real. My cocktail wiener is all hot and ready, so it doesn't take long before... You know... "A girl can't help it". I luckily got a lot of printed out Perry pics at hand, so that "me time" always ends with a bit of a money shot, Nostrildamus and Vladan style. Gosh, I know it ain't real, but you know... I won't stop believing! *giggly giggly*

Dude... Seriously... I was trying to have a serious discussion here, but that shit is sick. Thanks for totally ruin the topic. Next!

And just for the record Deano, I didn't write that quote, I know some of you may think I did, however I did not. Just clearing the air.

Cheers.

I understand, your computer got hijacked.....happens all the time. Vladan, you are fucking weird man. Do you take meds for MPD? Most people who have that shit jump out of 23rd story windows or park in front of trains.

Hey ho, midget-o. I wrote it, not Vladan.

Well, then did you forget to take your meds today? .........tall building or train.......

[Vladan]

Thanks parfait, appreciate it mate.

Steve777,

"whoops"