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Ehwmatt wrote:Still disappointed at how shitty this band turned out to be.
Ehwmatt wrote:Still disappointed at how shitty this band turned out to be.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Still disappointed at how shitty this band turned out to be.
Yea, here I thought Chickenfoot would teach SoulSirkus a thing or two about supergroups. It was just the opposite. Satch is great, but without the fundamentals of good songs, you ain’t got shit.
RocknRoll wrote:I think the original idea for PlanetUS would have been killer. Schon, Satch, Sammy, Mikey and Deen.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:RocknRoll wrote:I think the original idea for PlanetUS would have been killer. Schon, Satch, Sammy, Mikey and Deen.
No doubt. Would've been hard to fault Neal for leaving Journey behind for that.
RocknRoll wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:RocknRoll wrote:I think the original idea for PlanetUS would have been killer. Schon, Satch, Sammy, Mikey and Deen.
No doubt. Would've been hard to fault Neal for leaving Journey behind for that.
It's sad these guys run up against so may obstacles. Schon's own managment not supporting SoulSirkUS just doesn't seem right. I guess it's Journey or nothing.
Jana wrote:RocknRoll wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:RocknRoll wrote:I think the original idea for PlanetUS would have been killer. Schon, Satch, Sammy, Mikey and Deen.
No doubt. Would've been hard to fault Neal for leaving Journey behind for that.
It's sad these guys run up against so may obstacles. Schon's own managment not supporting SoulSirkUS just doesn't seem right. I guess it's Journey or nothing.
Soul SirkUS wasn't worth supporting.
Maui Tom wrote:Sammy is so rich from tequila he can do anything he wants and not sweat it.....he rocked Maui and Oahu 2 weeks ago with the Waboritas.....to be over 60 and able to be a fucking big kid still has to be awesome....
RocknRoll wrote:Maui Tom wrote:Sammy is so rich from tequila he can do anything he wants and not sweat it.....he rocked Maui and Oahu 2 weeks ago with the Waboritas.....to be over 60 and able to be a fucking big kid still has to be awesome....
That's my whole point. How great would it be for someone like Schon to just have fun instead of still having to try to prove himself.
BTW: what is Sammy like 62 and he can still jump!!! There's hope for us yet.
RocknRoll wrote:Chickenfoot live was fantastic. I'm thinking this is probably what Schon would love to do. Just get out there and play songs that are maybe not that great but just have a great time doing it with an audience that appreciates it.
Ehwmatt wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Chickenfoot live was fantastic. I'm thinking this is probably what Schon would love to do. Just get out there and play songs that are maybe not that great but just have a great time doing it with an audience that appreciates it.
Read yourself. Listen to how ridiculous that sounds. What professional musician wants to "play songs that are maybe not that great?" Furthermore, what self-respecting musician would have fun doing so? I don't know if you're equating greatness to poppiness or whatever, but either way, that is one of the funniest things I've ever read. Unknown songs can be great too. Sadly, neither Sirkus nor Chickenfoot achieved both of those qualities in their song catalogs.
StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Chickenfoot live was fantastic. I'm thinking this is probably what Schon would love to do. Just get out there and play songs that are maybe not that great but just have a great time doing it with an audience that appreciates it.
Read yourself. Listen to how ridiculous that sounds. What professional musician wants to "play songs that are maybe not that great?" Furthermore, what self-respecting musician would have fun doing so? I don't know if you're equating greatness to poppiness or whatever, but either way, that is one of the funniest things I've ever read. Unknown songs can be great too. Sadly, neither Sirkus nor Chickenfoot achieved both of those qualities in their song catalogs.
I saw them live in Texas. They were having SO much fun. The audience was having fun, and they ROCKED. The extended songs and just jammed. It was so great. Sammy is one of the best front men I have seen so far in my life as far as how he is with audience interaction and his energy. And at his age. I was never even a huge Sammy fan until I saw him with Chickenfoot, and now I want to see him apart from them too someday if I can. I never knew who Chad Smith was before that night. I knew who the Chili Peppers are sure, but I never paid attention to their drummer. He is one of the best drummers I've seen too. I was really surprised. He's NUTS but so good! Just seeing Satriani play was great. I am not much into HIS music, but with this music and the style of rock it was, his playing was awesome.
You people are judging it on YOUR personal opinions and on what you like to listen to. There are a WHOLE LOT of people who enjoyed Chickenfoot and are not complaining.
Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:RocknRoll wrote:Chickenfoot live was fantastic. I'm thinking this is probably what Schon would love to do. Just get out there and play songs that are maybe not that great but just have a great time doing it with an audience that appreciates it.
Read yourself. Listen to how ridiculous that sounds. What professional musician wants to "play songs that are maybe not that great?" Furthermore, what self-respecting musician would have fun doing so? I don't know if you're equating greatness to poppiness or whatever, but either way, that is one of the funniest things I've ever read. Unknown songs can be great too. Sadly, neither Sirkus nor Chickenfoot achieved both of those qualities in their song catalogs.
I saw them live in Texas. They were having SO much fun. The audience was having fun, and they ROCKED. The extended songs and just jammed. It was so great. Sammy is one of the best front men I have seen so far in my life as far as how he is with audience interaction and his energy. And at his age. I was never even a huge Sammy fan until I saw him with Chickenfoot, and now I want to see him apart from them too someday if I can. I never knew who Chad Smith was before that night. I knew who the Chili Peppers are sure, but I never paid attention to their drummer. He is one of the best drummers I've seen too. I was really surprised. He's NUTS but so good! Just seeing Satriani play was great. I am not much into HIS music, but with this music and the style of rock it was, his playing was awesome.
You people are judging it on YOUR personal opinions and on what you like to listen to. There are a WHOLE LOT of people who enjoyed Chickenfoot and are not complaining.
I understand and respect the difference of opinions regarding the quality of the material. I just don't understand why any self-respecting musician would concede that a given song wasn't "very good" and still go out and play it just for the sake of extending it 24 bars and jamming over it, as the original post I responded to was suggesting. You can do that with good songs too. I'm just disappointed that two of my absolute favorites, Sammy and Satch, couldn't have written something better than what came outta their first album.
Would I enjoy them live? Probably. Would I pay more than $15 to hear crappy songs albeit performed by outstanding musicians? Probably not.
X factor wrote:The CHICKENFOOT album ranges from fine to damned good in places. Clearly, they're a live act. Even a song like OH YEAH (which admittedly I think is one of the weakest) kicks butt live.
The problem is that NONE of these guys can write songs like they did when they were in their 20's and 30's. They were hungry, young and full of the kind of piss and vinegar that just doesn't exist in men in their 50's and beyond. Does that mean they shoudn't still write and record? Course not- they're all capable of catching lightning in a bottle. And for guys like Sammy, he's as good LIVE as he was back in the 80's (probably better, as he has a huge catalogue to pick from). But imho, we need to stop expecting guys in the AARP age range to write great rock songs on a regular basis, cause it ain't happening. Enjoy them while they're still there and stop being so damned critical.
X factor wrote:But imho, we need to stop expecting guys in the AARP age range to write great rock songs on a regular basis, cause it ain't happening. Enjoy them while they're still there and stop being so damned critical.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:X factor wrote:But imho, we need to stop expecting guys in the AARP age range to write great rock songs on a regular basis, cause it ain't happening. Enjoy them while they're still there and stop being so damned critical.
Expecting more than 1-2 good songs per album is not being too critical. Age doesn't even factor into the equation. Plenty of veteran rock acts (TOTO, Loverboy, Foreigner, Journey) have stepped it up and delivered.
StevePerryHair wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:X factor wrote:But imho, we need to stop expecting guys in the AARP age range to write great rock songs on a regular basis, cause it ain't happening. Enjoy them while they're still there and stop being so damned critical.
Expecting more than 1-2 good songs per album is not being too critical. Age doesn't even factor into the equation. Plenty of veteran rock acts (TOTO, Loverboy, Foreigner, Journey) have stepped it up and delivered.
Chickenfoot is NOT a classic band. It is made up of classic artists. You can't even compare it. And your opinion is that there are only 1 or 2 good songs. My opinion is that there are more. It's a matter of opinion, not fact, so maybe your expectations are just different.
StevePerryHair wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:X factor wrote:But imho, we need to stop expecting guys in the AARP age range to write great rock songs on a regular basis, cause it ain't happening. Enjoy them while they're still there and stop being so damned critical.
Expecting more than 1-2 good songs per album is not being too critical. Age doesn't even factor into the equation. Plenty of veteran rock acts (TOTO, Loverboy, Foreigner, Journey) have stepped it up and delivered.
Chickenfoot is NOT a classic band. It is made up of classic artists. You can't even compare it. And your opinion is that there are only 1 or 2 good songs. My opinion is that there are more. It's a matter of opinion, not fact, so maybe your expectations are just different.
StevePerryHair wrote:Chickenfoot is NOT a classic band. It is made up of classic artists. You can't even compare itt.
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