Sad news...

[Deb]

Gotta question? Did Jamison do this one? Gawwd I love this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98UOB0etdo

Yep. Jimi da man.

Very cool! Totally loved hearing that one at MRF1 too.

[kgdjpubs]

Gotta question? Did Jamison do this one? Gawwd I love this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98UOB0etdo

Yep. Jimi da man.

Very cool! Totally loved hearing that one at MRF1 too.

Jamison ALWAYS does that one. Part of his "dirty dozen". Some things may vary, but he'll always do that one, Burning Heart, High on You, Search is Over, Eye of the Tiger (even though he didn't sing that one originally), and the Baywatch theme I'm Always Here he did solo. Rest may vary, but you are pretty much guaranteed to get those.

maybe we could put in a vote for a Bickler/Jamison/Peterik set for MRF3. That would a something to see.

[SherriBerry]

In terms of longevity, what if MR moved away from focussing on a declining current melodic rock scene and incorporated more on classic melodic rock? Nostalgia is still as big as 80s hair. There are artists that are still major or who still have a large fan base, like Bon Jovi, Journey, Bryan Adams, KISS, Van Halen, Foreigner, etc., and have forums on the forum page, but aren't featured on the main page. What if this were a major site for updates, information, interviews, articles, history, video/concert clips (instead of YouTube) and such for artists like those, so that when people go online and do a Google search for whichever artist, MR comes up on the first page? Kind of like RollingStone's online version (only not pushing bs like RS) for the classic and current melodic rock scene.

Actually I read that when people do a search, they often don't click beyond the first page. Who knows how to get MR positioned so that when people Google bands on here, MR comes up higher in the listings?

[StevePerryHair]

Gotta question? Did Jamison do this one? Gawwd I love this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98UOB0etdo

I don't know. He was one of the few I did not want to miss and we went to dinner and got back so late we missed the whole set That's why Im all for a 2 hour intermission/dinner break if we ever have another fest

[StevePerryHair]

Gotta question? Did Jamison do this one? Gawwd I love this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98UOB0etdo

Yep. Jimi da man.

Very cool! Totally loved hearing that one at MRF1 too.

Jamison ALWAYS does that one. Part of his "dirty dozen". Some things may vary, but he'll always do that one, Burning Heart, High on You, Search is Over, Eye of the Tiger (even though he didn't sing that one originally), and the Baywatch theme I'm Always Here he did solo. Rest may vary, but you are pretty much guaranteed to get those.

maybe we could put in a vote for a Bickler/Jamison/Peterik set for MRF3. That would a something to see.

Well, Jamison/Peterik were there separately and when Peterik was playing he got Jamison to come up on the stage to sing "Burning Heart" with them. I only caught the tail end of that too.

[Ehwmatt]

In terms of longevity, what if MR moved away from focussing on a declining current melodic rock scene and incorporated more on classic melodic rock? Nostalgia is still as big as 80s hair. There are artists that are still major or who still have a large fan base, like Bon Jovi, Journey, Bryan Adams, KISS, Van Halen, Foreigner, etc., and have forums on the forum page, but aren't featured on the main page. What if this were a major site for updates, information, interviews, articles, history, video/concert clips (instead of YouTube) and such for artists like those, so that when people go online and do a Google search for whichever artist, MR comes up on the first page? Kind of like RollingStone's online version (only not pushing bs like RS) for the classic and current melodic rock scene.

Actually I read that when people do a search, they often don't click beyond the first page. Who knows how to get MR positioned so that when people Google bands on here, MR comes up higher in the listings?

Though nothing you said is inaccurate, the problem with that approach is that the great majority of those bands will be gone within 5 years. I'd also argue that this site already gives us plenty of news regarding those bands. It's not like Andrew doesn't post Foreigner tour dates or review a new record by one of said bands when they come out.

[kgdjpubs]

In terms of longevity, what if MR moved away from focussing on a declining current melodic rock scene and incorporated more on classic melodic rock? Nostalgia is still as big as 80s hair. There are artists that are still major or who still have a large fan base, like Bon Jovi, Journey, Bryan Adams, KISS, Van Halen, Foreigner, etc., and have forums on the forum page, but aren't featured on the main page. What if this were a major site for updates, information, interviews, articles, history, video/concert clips (instead of YouTube) and such for artists like those, so that when people go online and do a Google search for whichever artist, MR comes up on the first page? Kind of like RollingStone's online version (only not pushing bs like RS) for the classic and current melodic rock scene.

Actually I read that when people do a search, they often don't click beyond the first page. Who knows how to get MR positioned so that when people Google bands on here, MR comes up higher in the listings?

Though nothing you said is inaccurate, the problem with that approach is that the great majority of those bands will be gone within 5 years. I'd also argue that this site already gives us plenty of news regarding those bands. It's not like Andrew doesn't post Foreigner tour dates or review a new record by one of said bands when they come out.

I don't disagree, but out of who is left that WON'T be gone within 5 years, who do you hang your hat on? Your average "Band X" fan simply wants to hear that band, and a mention of "insert newest band here" won't grab them enough to listen to it. It may drive more hits to the site, but that's it.

[Tito]

You guys are stealing my thunder (from my analysis that I have to write up).

[Don]

In terms of longevity, what if MR moved away from focussing on a declining current melodic rock scene and incorporated more on classic melodic rock? Nostalgia is still as big as 80s hair. There are artists that are still major or who still have a large fan base, like Bon Jovi, Journey, Bryan Adams, KISS, Van Halen, Foreigner, etc., and have forums on the forum page, but aren't featured on the main page. What if this were a major site for updates, information, interviews, articles, history, video/concert clips (instead of YouTube) and such for artists like those, so that when people go online and do a Google search for whichever artist, MR comes up on the first page? Kind of like RollingStone's online version (only not pushing bs like RS) for the classic and current melodic rock scene.

Actually I read that when people do a search, they often don't click beyond the first page. Who knows how to get MR positioned so that when people Google bands on here, MR comes up higher in the listings?

To be honest, Bands like Bon Jovi use Facebook for breaking news and exclusive videos. Jon is very active on it and is always encouraging fan participation for this and that. If more bands follow his lead, that is going to be some hard competition for the MR frontpage. As soon as I open FB in the morning, my news feed already has a lot of the happenings from last night's concert with Foreigner, Bon Jovi, Meat Loaf's latest videos, etc. You really can't beat that.

[S2M]

In terms of longevity, what if MR moved away from focussing on a declining current melodic rock scene and incorporated more on classic melodic rock? Nostalgia is still as big as 80s hair. There are artists that are still major or who still have a large fan base, like Bon Jovi, Journey, Bryan Adams, KISS, Van Halen, Foreigner, etc., and have forums on the forum page, but aren't featured on the main page. What if this were a major site for updates, information, interviews, articles, history, video/concert clips (instead of YouTube) and such for artists like those, so that when people go online and do a Google search for whichever artist, MR comes up on the first page? Kind of like RollingStone's online version (only not pushing bs like RS) for the classic and current melodic rock scene.

Actually I read that when people do a search, they often don't click beyond the first page. Who knows how to get MR positioned so that when people Google bands on here, MR comes up higher in the listings?

To be honest, Bands like Bon Jovi use Facebook for breaking news and exclusive videos. Jon is very active on it and is always encouraging fan participation for this and that. If more bands follow his lead, that is going to be some hard competition for the MR frontpage. As soon as I open FB in the morning, my news feed already has a lot of the happenings from last night's concert with Foreigner, Bon Jovi, Meat Loaf's latest videos, etc. You really can't beat that.

Gunny, concerning your Sig.....Larry Burnett is an awesome singer. 'Strange way' is a definite fave.

[G.I.Jim]

This is ALL youo have to do to make a lot of money Andrew... start charging us for profanity or useless threads. You'll be sipping drinks on a beach in NO time!!! Oh yeah, and you can charge TNB just for the hell of it.

[Everett]

This is ALL youo have to do to make a lot of money Andrew... start charging us for profanity or useless threads. You'll be sipping drinks on a beach in NO time!!! Oh yeah, and you can charge TNB just for the hell of it.

Without me you guys would be so bored I bet you guys wish i stayed down in the styx forum

[parfait]

This is ALL youo have to do to make a lot of money Andrew... start charging us for profanity or useless threads. You'll be sipping drinks on a beach in NO time!!! Oh yeah, and you can charge TNB just for the hell of it.

Without me you guys would be so bored I bet you guys wish i stayed down in the styx forum

the world would b~e a berter pléac

[G.I.Jim]

This is ALL youo have to do to make a lot of money Andrew... start charging us for profanity or useless threads. You'll be sipping drinks on a beach in NO time!!! Oh yeah, and you can charge TNB just for the hell of it.

Without me you guys would be so bored I bet you guys wish i stayed down in the styx forum

the world would b~e a berter pléac

Oh yeah... I forgot to add the parfait charge! You get charged double... just because your french!

[parfait]

This is ALL youo have to do to make a lot of money Andrew... start charging us for profanity or useless threads. You'll be sipping drinks on a beach in NO time!!! Oh yeah, and you can charge TNB just for the hell of it.

Without me you guys would be so bored I bet you guys wish i stayed down in the styx forum

the world would b~e a berter pléac

Oh yeah... I forgot to add the parfait charge! You get charged double... just because your french!

thank you jim. jhim thank you

[SherriBerry]

In terms of longevity, what if MR moved away from focussing on a declining current melodic rock scene and incorporated more on classic melodic rock? Nostalgia is still as big as 80s hair. There are artists that are still major or who still have a large fan base, like Bon Jovi, Journey, Bryan Adams, KISS, Van Halen, Foreigner, etc., and have forums on the forum page, but aren't featured on the main page. What if this were a major site for updates, information, interviews, articles, history, video/concert clips (instead of YouTube) and such for artists like those, so that when people go online and do a Google search for whichever artist, MR comes up on the first page? Kind of like RollingStone's online version (only not pushing bs like RS) for the classic and current melodic rock scene.

Actually I read that when people do a search, they often don't click beyond the first page. Who knows how to get MR positioned so that when people Google bands on here, MR comes up higher in the listings?

Though nothing you said is inaccurate, the problem with that approach is that the great majority of those bands will be gone within 5 years. I'd also argue that this site already gives us plenty of news regarding those bands. It's not like Andrew doesn't post Foreigner tour dates or review a new record by one of said bands when they come out.

I'm hoping there is a way that Andrew can stick with the melodic rock he loves and still make a living at it while keeping MR going. Gunbot is right that Facebook makes it difficult, but I thought if MR were more like a music/news magazine online it might add interest, but it is good to hear that Andrew is updating the site too. The only thing I know of that really generates revenue is advertising, so an updated site with links might help. Otherwise, will the site have to branch out and encompass current popular music acts as well? Who wants to post in the Lady Gaga forum?

[Behshad]

Come to think of it ,
if every single one of you coming with suggestions , wouldve bought tickets to MRF II. , even if you couldn't attend , It wouldve Sold Out and we wouldn't be having this discussion

[SherriBerry]

Come to think of it ,
if every single one of you coming with suggestions , wouldve bought tickets to MRF II. , even if you couldn't attend , It wouldve Sold Out and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I recently moved, am unemployed and looking for a job, and also going into debt finishing an accounting program, but I donated to MR before the Fest and at Christmas. There was simply no way I could afford to buy a ticket when I'm pinching pennies just to have two decent outfits that I can wear to interviews.

[Don]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

[Michigan Girl]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

I'm not ..

[Don]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

I'm not ..

You went to the show, it won't effect you. It's a good chance to see how MR would fare as a pay site also. It would probably result in a massive cut down on nonsense threads also (which I have been guilt of starting, myself).

[Behshad]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

don't turn this around smart ass. It's nit about paying to have privilages. It's about all the people who enjoy this place , supporting this place with some $$ instead of just post counts

as far as paying members , I think a $100 lifetime membership to this place is fair and it'll weed out all the susies and jasond's

[Don]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

don't turn this around smart ass. It's nit about paying to have privilages. It's about all the people who enjoy this place , supporting this place with some $$ instead of just post counts

as far as paying members , I think a $100 lifetime membership to this place is fair and it'll weed out all the susies and jasond's

I'm not turning it around. How many people post there (I'm talking post, not lurk)? Three dozen, four dozen tops? I'm being realistic about this. You obviously can't go by the member count, how many of them are active? I'm saying the place can start fresh by culling the member's list and then Andrew can see what he actually has here as far as active accounts and decide how much to charge based on how many people here are really participating in the site.

[Behshad]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

don't turn this around smart ass. It's nit about paying to have privilages. It's about all the people who enjoy this place , supporting this place with some $$ instead of just post counts

as far as paying members , I think a $100 lifetime membership to this place is fair and it'll weed out all the susies and jasond's

I'm not turning it around. How many people post there (I'm talking post, not lurk)? Three dozen, four dozen tops? I'm being realistic about this. You obviously can't go by the member count, how many of them are active? I'm saying the place can start fresh by culling the the member's list and then Andrew can see what he actually has here as far as active accounts and decide how much to charge based on how many people here are really participating in the site.

OK
how about $.01 per post ?!

[Don]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

don't turn this around smart ass. It's nit about paying to have privilages. It's about all the people who enjoy this place , supporting this place with some $$ instead of just post counts

as far as paying members , I think a $100 lifetime membership to this place is fair and it'll weed out all the susies and jasond's

I'm not turning it around. How many people post there (I'm talking post, not lurk)? Three dozen, four dozen tops? I'm being realistic about this. You obviously can't go by the member count, how many of them are active? I'm saying the place can start fresh by culling the the member's list and then Andrew can see what he actually has here as far as active accounts and decide how much to charge based on how many people here are really participating in the site.

OK
how about $.01 per post ?!

Sure, you can do it like a parking meter. Pay in advance. If you hit your credit limit, you get shut off until you paypal more funds into the meter.

[Jubilee]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

don't turn this around smart ass. It's nit about paying to have privilages. It's about all the people who enjoy this place , supporting this place with some $$ instead of just post counts

as far as paying members , I think a $100 lifetime membership to this place is fair and it'll weed out all the susies and jasond's

I'm not turning it around. How many people post there (I'm talking post, not lurk)? Three dozen, four dozen tops? I'm being realistic about this. You obviously can't go by the member count, how many of them are active? I'm saying the place can start fresh by culling the member's list and then Andrew can see what he actually has here as far as active accounts and decide how much to charge based on how many people here are really participating in the site.

I agree. This "weeding out" and "culling" process will likely have quite the opposite outcome than you intend, B. Just from reading here lately, I'm not sure that there are 3-4 dozen regular posters. My guess is, by choking off what few posters there are left, the site will be left with just a handful of core (hardcore) posters...and my second guess is the bull-jive threads will actually increase, since there would really be no one else around, anyway. That's just my .06 cents worth (adjusted for inflation ).

[SherriBerry]

That makes it simple, revoke our posting privileges for every one that didn't attend and see how things go for a month here. If things are going great here after 30 days, don't let us back in unless we pay. I'm cool with that.

don't turn this around smart ass. It's nit about paying to have privilages. It's about all the people who enjoy this place , supporting this place with some $$ instead of just post counts

as far as paying members , I think a $100 lifetime membership to this place is fair and it'll weed out all the susies and jasond's

I'm not turning it around. How many people post there (I'm talking post, not lurk)? Three dozen, four dozen tops? I'm being realistic about this. You obviously can't go by the member count, how many of them are active? I'm saying the place can start fresh by culling the member's list and then Andrew can see what he actually has here as far as active accounts and decide how much to charge based on how many people here are really participating in the site.

I agree. This "weeding out" and "culling" process will likely have quite the opposite outcome than you intend, B. Just from reading here lately, I'm not sure that there are 3-4 dozen regular posters. My guess is, by choking off what few posters there are left, the site will be left with just a handful of core (hardcore) posters...and my second guess is the bull-jive threads will actually increase, since there would really be no one else around, anyway. That's just my .06 cents worth (adjusted for inflation ).

Activity is already down and charging people for each post probably won't encourage participation. If Andrew needs more hits on the main site, perhaps it would be helpful if people couldn't bypass the main site to get to the forums and would have to log on there. Or could the forums could be redesigned to allow advertising space on here? What if MR has Facebook and Twitter accounts?

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

I have a MR-X membership, but I would never pay to post on a messageboard forum. I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, I just don't believe that's a good idea, when there are so many other music forums out there.

What about advertising sale merchandise within the forum somewhere, as kinda a visual reminder of what you have to offer? Pop an ad into some of the most interesting threads from time to time. Entice the masses, so to speak. IDK. Just a thought. I LOVE my MR t-shirt!

LOL, I'm officially changing that saying to Donna Downer.

thank you

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

Maybe have periodic raffles where the winner(s) get some cool swag. Maybe even a meet-n-greet with a band. I'm sure Andrew has connections to where he could make that happen.

yea but the band members wouldn't be able to walk around and hang at the bar/restaurant, watch the other bands or come by and hug the merch girls!

I think the rockers had as much fun hangin as we did. I asked Jimi if he would please sign the guitars when he got finished at the meet and greet line and he said no let's go now. take me with you.

I was cool. very calm. i didn't even say ohmygoshyou'resohotiloveyou. or soil myself or anything. i was cool.

I think the lack of attendance is just a statement about how busy our society is in general....just too much going on coupled with not taking time to take care of oneself. people find money for things they value and for things they believe they deserve. I could think of 100 reasons NOT to go but bottom line was I'll spend my money on some kind of entertainment and this kind of thing is the number one thing I enjoy. and I deserve it. I do sacrifice other things--I don't shop, I don't go to movies I don't decorate my house or have membership at sports clubs I drive a 9year old car etc..I use my $$ to do what I love--traveling, to see family and rock and roll. I have been a stay at home mom for many years but things change, my funds became restricted so I am teaching school full time now so I can support my "habit". (if Jimi is an addiction I don't wanna be cured) (songs like a country song)

my $.02

[Melissa]

I think the lack of attendance is just a statement about how busy our society is in general....just too much going on coupled with not taking time to take care of oneself. people find money for things they value and for things they believe they deserve. I could think of 100 reasons NOT to go but bottom line was I'll spend my money on some kind of entertainment and this kind of thing is the number one thing I enjoy. and I deserve it. I do sacrifice other things--I don't shop, I don't go to movies I don't decorate my house or have membership at sports clubs I drive a 9year old car etc..I use my $$ to do what I love--traveling, to see family and rock and roll.

^^^^^ Ditto for me!!! Except my car is 7 years old, does that count?