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Postby donnaplease » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:54 pm

I'm a MAJOR loon, but come on guys, that performance was NOT good. I cringe when I see it. Everyone's entitled to f'up at least once, though, so he's forgiven in my book. :) Then again, watching Fabio in the background (barf) almost makes it worthwhile to watch.

IMO it's hard for us to challenge the Arneliot's contention that everything Arnel sings is golden when we won't admit to a bad performance by SP when we see it. :?

Saint John wrote:Just another passive-aggressive and outward way of saying "thank you," when inwardly both he and Herbert know there's not a shred of honesty in those words. Sort of like OJ Simpson smiling and telling the Goldman and Brown families that he's gonna continue to hunt for the "real killer." Total class. :roll:


Dan, that's bullshit. Quit being an ass! :evil: :P
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:01 am

donnaplease wrote:I'm a MAJOR loon, but come on guys, that performance was NOT good. I cringe when I see it. Everyone's entitled to f'up at least once, though, so he's forgiven in my book. :) Then again, watching Fabio in the background (barf) almost makes it worthwhile to watch.

IMO it's hard for us to challenge the Arneliot's contention that everything Arnel sings is golden when we won't admit to a bad performance by SP when we see it. :?


There's no comparing the two. One is a Hall of Fame singer, the other a karaoke singer who has never written a top 200 song. Don't have much to worry about re: the Pinheads. They're fucking delusional. Hell, most want him to sing the Super Bowl next year and erect a shrine in his honour at some flea infested, dog shit Filipino town. If you need an instant come back to the Pinheads donna, simple say, "Scoreboard." The scoreboard never lies.

Saint John wrote:Just another passive-aggressive and outward way of saying "thank you," when inwardly both he and Herbert know there's not a shred of honesty in those words. Sort of like OJ Simpson smiling and telling the Goldman and Brown families that he's gonna continue to hunt for the "real killer." Total class. :roll:


Funny as all Hell dude, but of course not correct. Are you on the sauce already this morning?
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Postby donnaplease » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:39 am

Rockindeano wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I'm a MAJOR loon, but come on guys, that performance was NOT good. I cringe when I see it. Everyone's entitled to f'up at least once, though, so he's forgiven in my book. :) Then again, watching Fabio in the background (barf) almost makes it worthwhile to watch.

IMO it's hard for us to challenge the Arneliot's contention that everything Arnel sings is golden when we won't admit to a bad performance by SP when we see it. :?


There's no comparing the two. One is a Hall of Fame singer, the other a karaoke singer who has never written a top 200 song. Don't have much to worry about re: the Pinheads. They're fucking delusional. Hell, most want him to sing the Super Bowl next year and erect a shrine in his honour at some flea infested, dog shit Filipino town. If you need an instant come back to the Pinheads donna, simple say, "Scoreboard." The scoreboard never lies.


Trust me, I KNOW there is no comparison between Arnel and SP. We loons get such a bad rap, though, for not acknowledging any of SP's shortcomings, and IMO that concert was one.

Problem with the scoreboard is that they also try to use it to bolster their argument regarding Arnel's credibility. He (Jrny) was given a 4-for-1 deal that IMO skews the scoreboard. Even with that, we still win, though! :twisted:
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Postby Saint John » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:39 am

donnaplease wrote: Quit being an ass! :evil: :P


Why would I stop now? :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:40 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Funny as all Hell dude, but of course not correct. Are you on the sauce already this morning?


Close ... heading to the 'Hawks game with the lady you met in Santa Monica. :wink: Expect a call during the National Anthem. :twisted: 8)
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Postby portland » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:02 am

Saint John wrote:
donnaplease wrote: Quit being an ass! :evil: :P


Why would I stop now? :lol:




and he is SO damn good at it!!!! :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:25 am

portland wrote:
Saint John wrote:
donnaplease wrote: Quit being an ass! :evil: :P


Why would I stop now? :lol:




and he is SO damn good at it!!!! :twisted: :lol:


Shut your piehole Holly.
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Postby portland » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:40 am

Rockindeano wrote:
portland wrote:
Saint John wrote:
donnaplease wrote: Quit being an ass! :evil: :P


Why would I stop now? :lol:




and he is SO damn good at it!!!! :twisted: :lol:


Shut your piehole Holly.




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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:29 pm

portland wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
portland wrote:
Saint John wrote:
donnaplease wrote: Quit being an ass! :evil: :P


Why would I stop now? :lol:




and he is SO damn good at it!!!! :twisted: :lol:


Shut your piehole Holly.




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Postby Jubilee » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:51 am

donnaplease wrote:I'm a MAJOR loon, but come on guys, that performance was NOT good. I cringe when I see it. Everyone's entitled to f'up at least once, though, so he's forgiven in my book. :) Then again, watching Fabio in the background (barf) almost makes it worthwhile to watch.

IMO it's hard for us to challenge the Arneliot's contention that everything Arnel sings is golden when we won't admit to a bad performance by SP when we see it. :?

Saint John wrote:Just another passive-aggressive and outward way of saying "thank you," when inwardly both he and Herbert know there's not a shred of honesty in those words. Sort of like OJ Simpson smiling and telling the Goldman and Brown families that he's gonna continue to hunt for the "real killer." Total class. :roll:


Dan, that's bullshit. Quit being an ass! :evil: :P


Agreed. I make no bones about my loon status, but, c'mon. Just because one is a Loon doesn't mean you can't call crap crap...and that performance was crap. Maybe for any other artist that would have been fine, but not Perry. Sorry. No way.

It was just a hot mess. Magic? Chemistry? Those guys looked like they didn't even know each other. And to top it all off, there's Perry imploring the crowd to sing along because, well...damned if he can remember the words... it was just a mess.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:21 pm

Jubilee wrote:It was just a hot mess. Magic? Chemistry? Those guys looked like they didn't even know each other.


Well at that point it was still early on atop the 1-way-street called "I Say When "Journey" Takes Action" paved by steve(phen) perry.

Schon/Cain were still in fool me once mode so when he said "jump" they still said "ok how high?" so you got the checkeredness of the Grahm tribute.

Btw I think his performance was ok given the conditions and it was TOTALLY cool to see, as the box set liner notes so eloquently indicate, "the three horsemen of Journey" riding again.

But the antics of stomping about, screaming, making wild gestures, trying to incite the crowd etc were totally out of place given the circumstances.

But OVERall, I will fault him for a lot of things, but not for showing up for a tribute to Grahm.
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Postby fredinator » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:43 pm

I think what I'm trying to emphasize is that the first couple of times I listened/saw this tribute: 1. I heard the sadness and melancholy of Neal's guitar (beautiful); 2. I thought that Perry had pretty much lost his voice; and 3. the coaxing of the crowd embarrassed me a little for him. I heard/saw it a couple of years ago.

Then, the other day at work the songs came on my mp3 player with my headphones on and the volume up pretty loud. I was blown away by the absolute beauty of the whole set. I guess I'm asking to give it a try with just headphones and up fairly loud and see what you think then... Listening to it that way made me think about Perry's voice in a whole different way--he just sounded a little rusty but not out of gas. He coaxed the crowd because in the background I could hear groups of people shouting "faithfully!" when he paused... That's why he sounded so grateful during the pauses...

Oh, well--I give up. It's okay--I know I heard it. That's why I voted "no" to haven't given up on SP in the other thread, lol.
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Postby Marabelle » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:31 pm

Sad. Sad. Sad. The moment was sad. The music was melancholy and I think the folks from Journey were sad for the loss of this man who meant so much to the music world. I think that the audience had ideas what they wanted to be sung once they saw Steve; and Steve had in his head what he wanted to sing. Sometimes the two things don't mix. It was a sort of "goodbye and farewell" to Grahamn for his passion and contribution to the industry for the musicians. On the other hand, the audience saw Steve and it was all about saying "hello and stay awhile and sing" for Steve Perry. It was that kind of moment. They didn't want to go along with just hearing him sing the sad lower keyed rendition of a song; they wanted to rejoice that afternoon for having him back with the guys and just not solemnly grieve the loss on that stage for Mr. Grahamn. It could have been wild and happy but that's not what I think the guys were feeling at the time. It will always be not what the audience wanted to hear or see them play but I think a moment when Steve finally was able to sing how he truly felt for once and the sad thing is nobody cared and still don't seem to get it even to this day.
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Postby Pacfanweb » Sun May 02, 2010 11:15 am

Meh, so SP's voice was a little rough. So? That's no proof of his "voice starting to fail"....I believe there's plenty of video evidence of him in concert a few years later where his voice was MUCH better to refute that. Just one of those days.

Still a cool little performance, considering the circumstances all around. It was still SMFP on stage with Neal.....that's never NOT cool.
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Postby Aaron » Fri May 07, 2010 12:47 pm

Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.
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Postby Saint John » Fri May 07, 2010 2:12 pm

Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


The performance should be judged on merit and not "who" he is (or, more accurately, who he was!). The performance sucked from virtually every aspect. What the fuck was good about it? And saying "It's Steve Perry!!!" drags your credibility into cheerleader territory.

And Arnel has nothing to do with this performance. I don't see the relevance of even mentioning him. We're talking about a horrible performance vocally, a horrible performance lyrically and a horrible performance as far as the mood of the event goes, and acting like The Rally Monkey at an Angel's game was pretty fucking dumb. I mean, who tries to get a crowd pumped up at a fucking memorial concert by screaming and ranting on stage?
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Postby Aaron » Fri May 07, 2010 10:04 pm

Dude,

It is Steve Perry which IS the definition of good in my book. He was a little rough but the vocal capability that made Journey is still there. It's different, but still there. The set reminded me of some of the old MTV Unplugged shows. I hated that show because unplugged is gay but, in this case, it was appropriate for Bill's memorial. The reason I mentioned Arnel (indirectly) was to counter your point about Perry being a full step down. It was a full step down and I think that's ok for the original singer to do. This was one of your issues with the performance being "bad". If that's bad, then why are you ok with a replacement singer running a half step down? My point is I agree with you 100%, detuning sucks! Why is it ok for Arnel to detune but not for the guy that wrote and made the song famous to do so?

I'll put up with Perry being detuned, even a full step. Putting up with detuning for a replacement, no fucking way.

L8r bro,

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P.S. How was MRF2?

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Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


The performance should be judged on merit and not "who" he is (or, more accurately, who he was!). The performance sucked from virtually every aspect. What the fuck was good about it? And saying "It's Steve Perry!!!" drags your credibility into cheerleader territory.

And Arnel has nothing to do with this performance. I don't see the relevance of even mentioning him. We're talking about a horrible performance vocally, a horrible performance lyrically and a horrible performance as far as the mood of the event goes, and acting like The Rally Monkey at an Angel's game was pretty fucking dumb. I mean, who tries to get a crowd pumped up at a fucking memorial concert by screaming and ranting on stage?
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Postby Art Vandelay » Sat May 08, 2010 12:40 am

Here is the complete set list from that day. If you look at the bands listed (headlined by the Dead), it's pretty obvious that this wasn't a Journey crowd...hence the encouragement by SP for everyone to 'please sing along'. I doubt they even knew who was on stage at that point.

Also, there were some upbeat songs played that day, and Robin Williams was there....not the most laid back personality for a memorial!

1. The Dirty Dozen Brass Band | Jerry Pompili Introduction
2. The Dirty Dozen Brass Band | Introduction
3. The Dirty Dozen Brass Band | Invocation
4. The Dirty Dozen Brass Band | My Feet Can't Fail Me Now
5. Bobby McFerrin | Introduction
6. Bobby McFerrin | Did I Hear You Say
7. Bobby McFerrin | Star Spangled Banner
8. Chief Oren Lyons | Introduction
9. Chief Oren Lyons | Speech
10. Jackson Browne | Introduction
11. Jackson Browne | For A Dancer
12. Jackson Browne | Interlude
13. Jackson Browne | World In Motion
14. Joe Satriani | Introduction
15. Joe Satriani | Always With Me
16. Joe Satriani | Band Introduction
17. Joe Satriani | The Crush Of Love
18. Aaron Neville | Introduction
19. Aaron Neville | Ave Maria
20. Santana | Introduction
21. Santana | Spirits Dancing In The Flesh
22. Santana | Somewhere In Heaven
23. Santana | Peace On Earth
24. Santana | Mother Earth
25. Santana | Third Stone From The Sun
26. Santana | Oye Como Va
27. Santana | Bertha
28. Santana | I Love You Too Much
29. Santana | Jingo
30. Santana | Percussion Jam
31. Santana | Jingo (Reprise)
32. Robin Williams | Introduction
33. Robin Williams | Robin Williams
34. Journey | Introduction
35. Journey | Faithfully
36. Journey | Lonely Road Without You
37. Journey | Lights
38. Tracy Chapman | Introduction
39. Tracy Chapman | All That You Have Is...
40. Tracy Chapman | Where The Soul Never Dies
41. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Introduction
42. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Teach Your Children
43. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Love The One You're With
44. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Long May You Run
45. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Long Time Gone
46. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Southern Cross
47. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Only Love Can Break Your Heart
48. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Wooden Ships
49. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Ohio
50. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Announcements / Introduction
51. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young | Wavy Gravy
52. Grateful Dead | Introduction
53. Grateful Dead | Hell In A Bucket
54. Grateful Dead | China Cat Sunflower
55. Grateful Dead | I Know You Rider
56. Grateful Dead | Wang Dang Doodle
57. John Fogerty & Grateful Dead | Born On The Bayou
58. John Fogerty & Grateful Dead | Green River
59. John Fogerty & Grateful Dead | Bad Moon Rising
60. John Fogerty & Grateful Dead | Proud Mary
61. Grateful Dead | Truckin'
62. Grateful Dead | The Other One
63. Grateful Dead | Wharf Rat
64. Grateful Dead | Sunshine Daydream
65. Grateful Dead | Forever Young
66. Grateful Dead | Touch Of Grey
67. Joan Baez, Graham Nash | Amazing Grace
68. Joan Baez, Graham Nash | Closing Announcements
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Postby Jana » Sat May 08, 2010 1:33 am

Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Sat May 08, 2010 1:44 am

Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.



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Postby Saint John » Mon May 10, 2010 1:54 am

Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.


I didn't say he did. Aaron did.
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Postby Jana » Mon May 10, 2010 2:15 am

Saint John wrote:
Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.


I didn't say he did. Aaron did.


I know. I quoted him. He put his reply to you on top, instead of under. I bolded his reply to your remark.
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Postby Aaron » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:42 am

Ok great, you got me there. :roll: The points of importance were made earlier but no one has offered to counter them. The points are:

1. Perry's voice took Journey to the top
2. Perry, even a full step down, still sounds like Perry and has the "stuff"
3. Any replacement singer that can't sing in the original key needs sacked

Let's hear responses based on the key points.

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Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.


I didn't say he did. Aaron did.


I know. I quoted him. He put his reply to you on top, instead of under. I bolded his reply to your remark.
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Postby steveo777 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:32 am

Aaron wrote:Ok great, you got me there. :roll: The points of importance were made earlier but no one has offered to counter them. The points are:

1. Perry's voice took Journey to the top
2. Perry, even a full step down, still sounds like Perry and has the "stuff"
3. Any replacement singer that can't sing in the original key needs sacked

Let's hear responses based on the key points.

Jana wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.


I didn't say he did. Aaron did.


I know. I quoted him. He put his reply to you on top, instead of under. I bolded his reply to your remark.


Oh, really? Have you heard him lately? Who knows if he still has the stuff. :wink:
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Postby KDOUBLEU » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:59 am

steveo777 wrote:
Aaron wrote:Ok great, you got me there. :roll: The points of importance were made earlier but no one has offered to counter them. The points are:

1. Perry's voice took Journey to the top
2. Perry, even a full step down, still sounds like Perry and has the "stuff"
3. Any replacement singer that can't sing in the original key needs sacked

Let's hear responses based on the key points.

Jana wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Jana wrote:
Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.


I didn't say he did. Aaron did.


I know. I quoted him. He put his reply to you on top, instead of under. I bolded his reply to your remark.


Oh, really? Have you heard him lately? Who knows if he still has the stuff. :wink:
Ill bet he still has the stuff....
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Postby portland » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:07 am

steveo777 wrote:
Aaron wrote:Ok great, you got me there. :roll: The points of importance were made earlier but no one has offered to counter them. The points are:

1. Perry's voice took Journey to the top
2. Perry, even a full step down, still sounds like Perry and has the "stuff"
3. Any replacement singer that can't sing in the original key needs sacked

Let's hear responses based on the key points.

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Aaron wrote:Dan, you know I love you bro but this comment brings me out of the wood work. The dude is still Steve Perry. He wrote the lyrics which gives him the right to change them (or fuck them up) as he sees fit. A full step down, he's still Steve Perry and still great. You're ok with a replacement sing requiring a half step detune after half a tour ... no way brother. If a replacement can't do it in the original key then get someone who can. Steve Perry down a full step with Fro, I'd pay to see that. Arnel a half step down ... I'll pass again this year and go see Hugo or Jeremey.

Saint John wrote:That was atrocious. Fucking up the lyrics to Faithfully, being up there blitzed and downtuning a whole step with an out of shape voice. Garbage.


Steve didn't write the lyrics to Faithfully.


I didn't say he did. Aaron did.


I know. I quoted him. He put his reply to you on top, instead of under. I bolded his reply to your remark.


Oh, really? Have you heard him lately? Who knows if he still has the stuff. :wink:



Who says he doesn't??

I think the point is that some not all of us would take Perry with or without him being able to be on par to what he was....a step down would be fine. We would be there to witness the reuniting of the band we call Journey.

As for the current state of the band....

1. AP out doing covers of every other 80's band excluding the one he is the lead singer of does not do much for me...it cheapens the band IMO. He should at the least be able to sing the songs from Revelation...maybe it would make them more
popular with the current fans who are following the band now.

2. The having a replacement that has to tour a 1/2 step down already....says volumes about the singer who toured relentlessly and then ended up "toast"

3. The resurgence of DSB and other songs that are Classic Journey songs has put Steve Perry back (like it or not) to the place of front man....it's his voice with the "Classic Journey" line up that is being played everywhere.


The whole thing is kind of perplexing...what other band has this happened to??

I am sure I will get the normal crap.....so fire away.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:42 am

portland wrote:
As for the current state of the band....

1. AP out doing covers of every other 80's band excluding the one he is the lead singer of does not do much for me...it cheapens the band IMO. He should at the least be able to sing the songs from Revelation...maybe it would make them more
popular with the current fans who are following the band now.

2. The having a replacement that has to tour a 1/2 step down already....says volumes about the singer who toured relentlessly and then ended up "toast"

3. The resurgence of DSB and other songs that are Classic Journey songs has put Steve Perry back (like it or not) to the place of front man....it's his voice with the "Classic Journey" line up that is being played everywhere.


The whole thing is kind of perplexing...what other band has this happened to??

I am sure I will get the normal crap.....so fire away.


That's a solid post through and through until the very end. No other band has been so high and then sunk so low as Journey.
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Postby portland » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:49 am

Rockindeano wrote:
portland wrote:
As for the current state of the band....

1. AP out doing covers of every other 80's band excluding the one he is the lead singer of does not do much for me...it cheapens the band IMO. He should at the least be able to sing the songs from Revelation...maybe it would make them more
popular with the current fans who are following the band now.

2. The having a replacement that has to tour a 1/2 step down already....says volumes about the singer who toured relentlessly and then ended up "toast"

3. The resurgence of DSB and other songs that are Classic Journey songs has put Steve Perry back (like it or not) to the place of front man....it's his voice with the "Classic Journey" line up that is being played everywhere.


The whole thing is kind of perplexing...what other band has this happened to??

I am sure I will get the normal crap.....so fire away.


That's a solid post through and through until the very end. No other band has been so high and then sunk so low as Journey.




You got it....totally agree.
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Postby Tomulator » Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:08 am

BTW, I've never really heard an explanation for this...

Q: Why didn't Journey perform with a full band that day instead of an "unplugged" trio of Schon, Caine, and SMFP? Other full bands apparently played...why not Journey?

Perry ain't coming back guys and gals...
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Postby FamilyMan » Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:44 am

I'm really surprised this gets mixed reviews. Perry sounds raw here, but pitch-perfect to me. And the three of them look like they could have played their last Journey gig the day before. The stage exit without a arm-n -rm bow is telling, I guess.
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