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Re: Heart/Def Leppard/Kansas 2011 Tour

Postby DrFU » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:17 am

timstar78 wrote: best of luck to Joe Elliott in having to follow Ann Wilson every night.


Indeed.

Not sure where GB got this "decline" stuff about Ann ... not from where I've been sitting over the past several years.
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Postby Melissa » Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:47 am

This will be fun! Can't say I'm excited about the Kansas part, might snooze a bit there :lol: but Heart and DL are always awesome to see. And I'm betting with a 3rd band in there like Kansas this time that means that Heart's and DL's sets will be shorter, and that sucks, but oh well, lol. And yeah, DL will be the closers. I love the haters :lol: Sorry but DL has a huge loyal fan base, they ARE a great band.

I know Joe's voice can't handle it, but it would be awesome to have an "evening with" kind of concert with just them, because aside from all the radio hits there are more obscure songs of theirs I think would be awesome to hear live, like "Gift Of Flesh" (I think that one would be killer live) or "Cry", and others.
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Postby S2M » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:44 am

Melissa wrote:This will be fun! Can't say I'm excited about the Kansas part, might snooze a bit there :lol: but Heart and DL are always awesome to see. And I'm betting with a 3rd band in there like Kansas this time that means that Heart's and DL's sets will be shorter, and that sucks, but oh well, lol. And yeah, DL will be the closers. I love the haters :lol: Sorry but DL has a huge loyal fan base, they ARE a great band.

I know Joe's voice can't handle it, but it would be awesome to have an "evening with" kind of concert with just them, because aside from all the radio hits there are more obscure songs of theirs I think would be awesome to hear live, like "Gift Of Flesh" (I think that one would be killer live) or "Cry", and others.


Well X, and Slang weren't really accpepted by the fans....especially Slang (which is my 2nd fave behind Pyromania...

A couple of other obscure tracks are: Move With Me Slowly, and Can't Keep Away from the Flame...both are exceptional.

And as far as Slang goes - who wouldn't love songs like: Breathe A Sigh, Where Does Love Go When it Dies, Blood Runs Cold, and All I Want is Everything....?
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Postby Melissa » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:24 am

S2M wrote:Well X, and Slang weren't really accpepted by the fans....especially Slang (which is my 2nd fave behind Pyromania...

A couple of other obscure tracks are: Move With Me Slowly, and Can't Keep Away from the Flame...both are exceptional.

And as far as Slang goes - who wouldn't love songs like: Breathe A Sigh, Where Does Love Go When it Dies, Blood Runs Cold, and All I Want is Everything....?


Yeah and what's funny is Slang DID have to grow on me before liking it as much as I do now, lol. But you're right, I remember Slang wasn't super well accepted by fans at first. And you named 3 of my favs from it too other than GOF, I love Blood Runs Cold, Breathe a Sigh, and Where Does Love Go When It Dies. And Move With Me Slowly is obscure! And I love that one too.

I think X was accepted by fans better than Slang was. And they did play the song Slang live at least at one of the shows we caught within the last few years, lol.
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Postby lights1961 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:42 am

I love this line up... Def would be closer... or should be... and if it hits DM... I am there...I just hope its an arena tour and not a state fair tour... and if Kansas is on the bill it will be full circle for me as Kansas was my first live concert in 1977!!
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:07 am

S2M wrote:A couple of other obscure tracks are: Move With Me Slowly, and Can't Keep Away from the Flame...both are exceptional.

Ever hear "10 Times Bigger Than Love"? My favorite Leppard b side of all of them, and one of my favorites period! Great song!
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Postby S2M » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:11 am

RedWingFan wrote:
S2M wrote:A couple of other obscure tracks are: Move With Me Slowly, and Can't Keep Away from the Flame...both are exceptional.

Ever hear "10 Times Bigger Than Love"? My favorite Leppard b side of all of them, and one of my favorites period! Great song!


I'm quite the Def Leppard audiophile....I've heard everything....lol

Wish I could get a copy of Joe's impromptu Ziggy Stardust tune....lol
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:14 am

S2M wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
S2M wrote:A couple of other obscure tracks are: Move With Me Slowly, and Can't Keep Away from the Flame...both are exceptional.

Ever hear "10 Times Bigger Than Love"? My favorite Leppard b side of all of them, and one of my favorites period! Great song!


I'm quite the Def Leppard audiophile....I've heard everything....lol

Wish I could get a copy of Joe's impromptu Ziggy Stardust tune....lol

I have the Leppard version of ZS.
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Postby S2M » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:36 am

RedWingFan wrote:
S2M wrote:
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S2M wrote:A couple of other obscure tracks are: Move With Me Slowly, and Can't Keep Away from the Flame...both are exceptional.

Ever hear "10 Times Bigger Than Love"? My favorite Leppard b side of all of them, and one of my favorites period! Great song!


I'm quite the Def Leppard audiophile....I've heard everything....lol

Wish I could get a copy of Joe's impromptu Ziggy Stardust tune....lol

I have the Leppard version of ZS.


Hmmm....I think you're talking about the version with Joe and the band doing it various venues on tour....or the Cybernauts version?...I'm refering to that version in the English pub. Just 3 or 4 guys sitting around a table jamming....
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Postby Melissa » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:42 am

S2M wrote:I'm refering to that version in the English pub. Just 3 or 4 guys sitting around a table jamming....


Isn't that in one of the home videos?

And the version with them outside somewhere sitting around and doing that too is good, on one of those videos too. I remember that it seemed Sav had to keep watching the other guitar players for cues or something, lol.
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Postby S2M » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:47 am

Melissa wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm refering to that version in the English pub. Just 3 or 4 guys sitting around a table jamming....


Isn't that in one of the home videos?

And the version with them outside somewhere sitting around and doing that too is good, on one of those videos too. I remember that it seemed Sav had to keep watching the other guitar players for cues or something, lol.


Yes...I saw a clip of it on either Historia, In the Round: In your Face, or Vault....lol

Awesome version....

I believe RWF is refering to the version on Retromania....
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:53 am

S2M wrote:
Melissa wrote:
S2M wrote:I'm refering to that version in the English pub. Just 3 or 4 guys sitting around a table jamming....


Isn't that in one of the home videos?

And the version with them outside somewhere sitting around and doing that too is good, on one of those videos too. I remember that it seemed Sav had to keep watching the other guitar players for cues or something, lol.


Yes...I saw a clip of it on either Historia, In the Round: In your Face, or Vault....lol
Awesome version....

I believe RWF is refering to the version on Retromania....

I have the original b side off of "Adrenalize"
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Postby S2M » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:58 am

How about these tracks?

Immortal
Burnout
Under My Wheels
Rebel Rebel
Led Boots
Little Wing
American Girl
Kiss the Day
Jimmy's Theme
I Am Your Child
Gimme a Job
Stay With Me
S.M.C.
When Saturday Comes
Release Me
Nine Lives
Search and Destroy
Cause We Ended as Lovers
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Postby timstar78 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:08 am

S2M wrote:How about these tracks?

Immortal
Burnout
Under My Wheels
Rebel Rebel
Led Boots
Little Wing
American Girl
Kiss the Day
Jimmy's Theme
I Am Your Child
Gimme a Job
Stay With Me
S.M.C.
When Saturday Comes
Release Me
Nine Lives
Search and Destroy
Cause We Ended as Lovers


Leppard has some great B-sides. Phil Collen's take on Jeff Beck's "Cause We've Ended As Lovers" is fantastic.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:48 am

S2M wrote:How about these tracks?

Immortal
Burnout
Under My Wheels
Rebel Rebel
Led Boots
Little Wing
American Girl
Kiss the Day
Jimmy's Theme
I Am Your Child
Gimme a Job
Stay With Me
S.M.C.
When Saturday Comes
Release Me
Nine Lives
Search and Destroy
Cause We Ended as Lovers

Got 'em. You left out "Don't Look Down" among others! :)
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:57 pm

I caught this video on VH1 last week...I'm guessing a side project of Joe Elliotts? There are some interesting cameos at the end if I remember.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyqIP3lQ ... ata_player
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Postby Pelata » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:41 pm

Someone mentioned Steinhardt singing, but he's not in Kansas anymore....David Ragsdale is back on violin and guitar and Billy Greer does Robby's parts.

I saw Kansas last October playing a furniture convention here in NC...they rocked and Walsh sounded surprisingly very good. I was up close (10ft from the stage) and paid close attention...he was deferring all the really high notes to Greer, but otherwise sounded very good.

I hope this tour actually happens...
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:00 am

Pelata wrote:Someone mentioned Steinhardt singing, but he's not in Kansas anymore....David Ragsdale is back on violin and guitar and Billy Greer does Robby's parts.


The first time I saw Kansas live was right after Steinhardt rejoined the band and just after they put out "Always Never the Same". I was thrilled to be able to see them live with him in the band. Also got to chat with him after one of the other shows I saw and he was very personable and I noticed him chatting it up with fans prior to another show, so he seems like a genuinely nice person. That being said, I'm glad Ragsdale is back after Steinhardt let again. At this point, I think he's a better player, plus he plays guitar as well on some of the other tunes.

I saw Kansas last October playing a furniture convention here in NC...they rocked and Walsh sounded surprisingly very good. I was up close (10ft from the stage) and paid close attention...he was deferring all the really high notes to Greer, but otherwise sounded very good.


Walsh has sounded better each time I've seen them since he quit the drugs. He sounded utterly horrible through the 90s. I'm also glad Greer is doing more vocals because, at this point, he has the best voice in that band.

Unfortunately, it's been several years now since I've seen them live and would love to catch them since I've never seen them live with Ragsdale in the band.
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Postby Pelata » Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:59 am

I'm glad that Walsh covers all keys now...he's an excellent player and I never understood why they had an extra keyboard player there for a while...
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Postby rsimpson » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:04 am

conversationpc wrote:
Pelata wrote:Someone mentioned Steinhardt singing, but he's not in Kansas anymore....David Ragsdale is back on violin and guitar and Billy Greer does Robby's parts.


The first time I saw Kansas live was right after Steinhardt rejoined the band and just after they put out "Always Never the Same". I was thrilled to be able to see them live with him in the band. Also got to chat with him after one of the other shows I saw and he was very personable and I noticed him chatting it up with fans prior to another show, so he seems like a genuinely nice person. That being said, I'm glad Ragsdale is back after Steinhardt let again. At this point, I think he's a better player, plus he plays guitar as well on some of the other tunes.

I saw Kansas last October playing a furniture convention here in NC...they rocked and Walsh sounded surprisingly very good. I was up close (10ft from the stage) and paid close attention...he was deferring all the really high notes to Greer, but otherwise sounded very good.


Walsh has sounded better each time I've seen them since he quit the drugs. He sounded utterly horrible through the 90s. I'm also glad Greer is doing more vocals because, at this point, he has the best voice in that band.

Unfortunately, it's been several years now since I've seen them live and would love to catch them since I've never seen them live with Ragsdale in the band.


Ragsdale brings alot more energy to the band. You should check out There's Know Place Like Home. Great DVD they put out last year with a college symphony. I had the pleasure of attending the filming. Great seeing Kerry Livgren and Steve Morse on stage with them.
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Postby rsimpson » Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:06 am

Pelata wrote:I'm glad that Walsh covers all keys now...he's an excellent player and I never understood why they had an extra keyboard player there for a while...


When they reformed in the mid 80's, Walsh had to play frontman. When Steinhardt returned, Walsh went back to keys full time
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