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S2M wrote:My Package - 38
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S2M wrote:I'm not getting involved in the he said/she said garbage anymore....like I said earlier - I didn't donate money to keep this place open just so a few village idiots can start a testosterone-laden pissing contest.
Staying out of the sports threads...not bothering with the political one either. I have a few friends here, and I'll keep talking to them.
Saint John wrote:You're not gonna stay out of the sports threads, nor should you.
Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
Typical Clownies fan...get over the endless seasons of losing...the Browns will be back, Holmgren will see to it.
I would root for the Browns if they were in it and the Steelers weren't...so don't be a sour puss!
RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
Typical Clownies fan...get over the endless seasons of losing...the Browns will be back, Holmgren will see to it.
I would root for the Browns if they were in it and the Steelers weren't...so don't be a sour puss!
YoungJRNY wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
Typical Clownies fan...get over the endless seasons of losing...the Browns will be back, Holmgren will see to it.
I would root for the Browns if they were in it and the Steelers weren't...so don't be a sour puss!
Redact your Steelers pride, Stu. Rooting for the Browns in the Super Bowl? Are you out of your fucking mind? Well, I guess it's easy to say that since the Browns have been playing at the pee-wee level since 1964! I almost feel sorry about those turds givin on how loyal they are to one of the worst ran franchise's in the NFL. I mean, their own owner said the hell with them and left town and THEN won a Super Bowl in Baltimore! There is no worse tormented sports city than Cleveland and to watch them lose a Super Bowl would be even MORE priceless and appropriate to that city. Fuck Cleveland and everything about those smelly rejects.
Matt's probably the coolest thing ever to come out of that shit-hole. Maybe he's adopted?
Ehwmatt wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
Typical Clownies fan...get over the endless seasons of losing...the Browns will be back, Holmgren will see to it.
I would root for the Browns if they were in it and the Steelers weren't...so don't be a sour puss!
Forget my hatred for you guys for the moment. Even if that were not the case, I honestly believe I'd be rooting for the Packers today. Here's three reasons why:
1. Great, storied franchise (as are the Steelers, but they have had plenty of glory in the last six years). It would be nice to see them carve out another piece of history in their long tradition.
2. GB is a small/mid sports market: Admittedly, this factor applies to a Pitt win as well, but as I said, Pitt has had its glory the last few years. This match-up is just a great reason why I love the NFL. Two mid-market cities (arguably, GB is a small market but the rabidness of the fans kinda makes up for it in my eyes) are battling it out for all the marbles. It's just nice to see smaller cities take home major sports championships when year after year in the MLB and NBA you see the same old Boston, NY, LA nonsense.
3. Aaron Rodgers: I really think this guy is on the cusp of something special. With a win today, I can see him reaching legendary status with sick numbers and multiple rings. The guy is ALL that is advertised and perhaps more. Unassuming, professional, and really fucking good/talented. Someday, I can see myself telling my kids about watching Aaron Rodgers in his prime.
On the other hand, whether Consentlessberger loses today or goes on to win his third today and even if he goes beyond that, I can't see myself reminiscing to my kids about the times I saw some fat, ugly, bearded alleged rapist playing a utilitarian game, relying on his defense/run game, evading a few tackles here and there on account of his fat ass, and maybe orchestrating one impressive drive at the end of the game after his defense and running game do the bulk of the work to win. The guy is just not that impressive game to game and play to play like the true QB legends are. I don't believe history is going to treat him that kindly, even if he wins 3+ rings starting today. Don't get me wrong, the guy's team WINS, and his part in that is not to be taken lightly. I'd kill to have a QB like that play for my team. But, as a fan of the game, I just want to watch a monster talent in Rodgers consummate his abilities today. It's just the sexier outcome for me, even if I were a totally neutral fan.
S2M wrote:2 weeks of complete and utter ballwashing...I don't think I have the faculties left to even watch this game. Plus, I don't think I could even understand the commentators with Troy's, Ben's, and Ward's cocks in their mouths....![]()
....just a drive-by, don't get excited.
RossValoryRocks wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
Typical Clownies fan...get over the endless seasons of losing...the Browns will be back, Holmgren will see to it.
I would root for the Browns if they were in it and the Steelers weren't...so don't be a sour puss!
Redact your Steelers pride, Stu. Rooting for the Browns in the Super Bowl? Are you out of your fucking mind? Well, I guess it's easy to say that since the Browns have been playing at the pee-wee level since 1964! I almost feel sorry about those turds givin on how loyal they are to one of the worst ran franchise's in the NFL. I mean, their own owner said the hell with them and left town and THEN won a Super Bowl in Baltimore! There is no worse tormented sports city than Cleveland and to watch them lose a Super Bowl would be even MORE priceless and appropriate to that city. Fuck Cleveland and everything about those smelly rejects.
Matt's probably the coolest thing ever to come out of that shit-hole. Maybe he's adopted?
No No No...If the Steelers didn't make the playoff/Super Bowl I would root for any of the AFC North teams to win(Exception: Ravens, I can't stand them), provided they make it that far. I lived just outside of Cleveland, and in Columbus so I have a soft spot for Cincy and the Browns, except when they play the Steelers.
There once was a time, and Trav you are too young to remember, when it was the AFC Central that the Browns, Steelers, Houston and Cincy were POWERHOUSE teams and ONE of them was going to be in the AFC championship game. It made football more exciting to watch, and the rivalry with each of those teams made it special.
YoungJRNY wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Fuck The Steelers!
Typical Clownies fan...get over the endless seasons of losing...the Browns will be back, Holmgren will see to it.
I would root for the Browns if they were in it and the Steelers weren't...so don't be a sour puss!
Redact your Steelers pride, Stu. Rooting for the Browns in the Super Bowl? Are you out of your fucking mind? Well, I guess it's easy to say that since the Browns have been playing at the pee-wee level since 1964! I almost feel sorry about those turds givin on how loyal they are to one of the worst ran franchise's in the NFL. I mean, their own owner said the hell with them and left town and THEN won a Super Bowl in Baltimore! There is no worse tormented sports city than Cleveland and to watch them lose a Super Bowl would be even MORE priceless and appropriate to that city. Fuck Cleveland and everything about those smelly rejects.
Matt's probably the coolest thing ever to come out of that shit-hole. Maybe he's adopted?
No No No...If the Steelers didn't make the playoff/Super Bowl I would root for any of the AFC North teams to win(Exception: Ravens, I can't stand them), provided they make it that far. I lived just outside of Cleveland, and in Columbus so I have a soft spot for Cincy and the Browns, except when they play the Steelers.
There once was a time, and Trav you are too young to remember, when it was the AFC Central that the Browns, Steelers, Houston and Cincy were POWERHOUSE teams and ONE of them was going to be in the AFC championship game. It made football more exciting to watch, and the rivalry with each of those teams made it special.
The AFC North didn't come into existence until 2002. The AFC Central was as STACKED as it came. Houston/Tennessee, Jacksonville, Cleveland Cincy and Pittsburgh. Atleast 3 teams during that time were all within rivalries and at each others THROATS since most of those teams played football the way it was supposed to be played: TOUGH and PHYSICAL.
Ehwmatt wrote:
Forget my hatred for you guys for the moment. Even if that were not the case, I honestly believe I'd be rooting for the Packers today. Here's three reasons why:
1. Great, storied franchise (as are the Steelers, but they have had plenty of glory in the last six years). It would be nice to see them carve out another piece of history in their long tradition.
2. GB is a small/mid sports market: Admittedly, this factor applies to a Pitt win as well, but as I said, Pitt has had its glory the last few years. This match-up is just a great reason why I love the NFL. Two mid-market cities (arguably, GB is a small market but the rabidness of the fans kinda makes up for it in my eyes) are battling it out for all the marbles. It's just nice to see smaller cities take home major sports championships when year after year in the MLB and NBA you see the same old Boston, NY, LA nonsense.
3. Aaron Rodgers: I really think this guy is on the cusp of something special. With a win today, I can see him reaching legendary status with sick numbers and multiple rings. The guy is ALL that is advertised and perhaps more. Unassuming, professional, and really fucking good/talented. Someday, I can see myself telling my kids about watching Aaron Rodgers in his prime.
On the other hand, whether Consentlessberger loses today or goes on to win his third today and even if he goes beyond that, I can't see myself reminiscing to my kids about the times I saw some fat, ugly, bearded alleged rapist playing a utilitarian game, relying on his defense/run game, evading a few tackles here and there on account of his fat ass, and maybe orchestrating one impressive drive at the end of the game after his defense and running game do the bulk of the work to win. The guy is just not that impressive game to game and play to play like the true QB legends are. I don't believe history is going to treat him that kindly, even if he wins 3+ rings starting today. Don't get me wrong, the guy's team WINS, and his part in that is not to be taken lightly. I'd kill to have a QB like that play for my team. But, as a fan of the game, I just want to watch a monster talent in Rodgers consummate his abilities today. It's just the sexier outcome for me, even if I were a totally neutral fan.
Enigma869 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:
Forget my hatred for you guys for the moment. Even if that were not the case, I honestly believe I'd be rooting for the Packers today. Here's three reasons why:
1. Great, storied franchise (as are the Steelers, but they have had plenty of glory in the last six years). It would be nice to see them carve out another piece of history in their long tradition.
2. GB is a small/mid sports market: Admittedly, this factor applies to a Pitt win as well, but as I said, Pitt has had its glory the last few years. This match-up is just a great reason why I love the NFL. Two mid-market cities (arguably, GB is a small market but the rabidness of the fans kinda makes up for it in my eyes) are battling it out for all the marbles. It's just nice to see smaller cities take home major sports championships when year after year in the MLB and NBA you see the same old Boston, NY, LA nonsense.
3. Aaron Rodgers: I really think this guy is on the cusp of something special. With a win today, I can see him reaching legendary status with sick numbers and multiple rings. The guy is ALL that is advertised and perhaps more. Unassuming, professional, and really fucking good/talented. Someday, I can see myself telling my kids about watching Aaron Rodgers in his prime.
On the other hand, whether Consentlessberger loses today or goes on to win his third today and even if he goes beyond that, I can't see myself reminiscing to my kids about the times I saw some fat, ugly, bearded alleged rapist playing a utilitarian game, relying on his defense/run game, evading a few tackles here and there on account of his fat ass, and maybe orchestrating one impressive drive at the end of the game after his defense and running game do the bulk of the work to win. The guy is just not that impressive game to game and play to play like the true QB legends are. I don't believe history is going to treat him that kindly, even if he wins 3+ rings starting today. Don't get me wrong, the guy's team WINS, and his part in that is not to be taken lightly. I'd kill to have a QB like that play for my team. But, as a fan of the game, I just want to watch a monster talent in Rodgers consummate his abilities today. It's just the sexier outcome for me, even if I were a totally neutral fan.
No real need to defend your position Matt. A Browns fan rooting for the Steelers to ever win anything would be like a Red Sox fan rooting for the Yankees, and I promise you that would NEVER fucking happen...EVER! By the way, your assessment of Ben is spot on and win or not, Rapelisberger isn't Elway, Montana or Brady! I'll certainly give Ben props for winning, but it doesn't change the eyeball test for me and it doesn't change the fact that in his first Super Bowl, he had the worst performance EVER by a QB in the big game. I could have been the QB during Ben's first Super Bowl and the Steelers were still winning that game!
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Enigma869 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:
Forget my hatred for you guys for the moment. Even if that were not the case, I honestly believe I'd be rooting for the Packers today. Here's three reasons why:
1. Great, storied franchise (as are the Steelers, but they have had plenty of glory in the last six years). It would be nice to see them carve out another piece of history in their long tradition.
2. GB is a small/mid sports market: Admittedly, this factor applies to a Pitt win as well, but as I said, Pitt has had its glory the last few years. This match-up is just a great reason why I love the NFL. Two mid-market cities (arguably, GB is a small market but the rabidness of the fans kinda makes up for it in my eyes) are battling it out for all the marbles. It's just nice to see smaller cities take home major sports championships when year after year in the MLB and NBA you see the same old Boston, NY, LA nonsense.
3. Aaron Rodgers: I really think this guy is on the cusp of something special. With a win today, I can see him reaching legendary status with sick numbers and multiple rings. The guy is ALL that is advertised and perhaps more. Unassuming, professional, and really fucking good/talented. Someday, I can see myself telling my kids about watching Aaron Rodgers in his prime.
On the other hand, whether Consentlessberger loses today or goes on to win his third today and even if he goes beyond that, I can't see myself reminiscing to my kids about the times I saw some fat, ugly, bearded alleged rapist playing a utilitarian game, relying on his defense/run game, evading a few tackles here and there on account of his fat ass, and maybe orchestrating one impressive drive at the end of the game after his defense and running game do the bulk of the work to win. The guy is just not that impressive game to game and play to play like the true QB legends are. I don't believe history is going to treat him that kindly, even if he wins 3+ rings starting today. Don't get me wrong, the guy's team WINS, and his part in that is not to be taken lightly. I'd kill to have a QB like that play for my team. But, as a fan of the game, I just want to watch a monster talent in Rodgers consummate his abilities today. It's just the sexier outcome for me, even if I were a totally neutral fan.
No real need to defend your position Matt. A Browns fan rooting for the Steelers to ever win anything would be like a Red Sox fan rooting for the Yankees, and I promise you that would NEVER fucking happen...EVER! By the way, your assessment of Ben is spot on and win or not, Rapelisberger isn't Elway, Montana or Brady! I'll certainly give Ben props for winning, but it doesn't change the eyeball test for me and it doesn't change the fact that in his first Super Bowl, he had the worst performance EVER by a QB in the big game. I could have been the QB during Ben's first Super Bowl and the Steelers were still winning that game!
RossValoryRocks wrote:Enigma869 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:
Forget my hatred for you guys for the moment. Even if that were not the case, I honestly believe I'd be rooting for the Packers today. Here's three reasons why:
1. Great, storied franchise (as are the Steelers, but they have had plenty of glory in the last six years). It would be nice to see them carve out another piece of history in their long tradition.
2. GB is a small/mid sports market: Admittedly, this factor applies to a Pitt win as well, but as I said, Pitt has had its glory the last few years. This match-up is just a great reason why I love the NFL. Two mid-market cities (arguably, GB is a small market but the rabidness of the fans kinda makes up for it in my eyes) are battling it out for all the marbles. It's just nice to see smaller cities take home major sports championships when year after year in the MLB and NBA you see the same old Boston, NY, LA nonsense.
3. Aaron Rodgers: I really think this guy is on the cusp of something special. With a win today, I can see him reaching legendary status with sick numbers and multiple rings. The guy is ALL that is advertised and perhaps more. Unassuming, professional, and really fucking good/talented. Someday, I can see myself telling my kids about watching Aaron Rodgers in his prime.
On the other hand, whether Consentlessberger loses today or goes on to win his third today and even if he goes beyond that, I can't see myself reminiscing to my kids about the times I saw some fat, ugly, bearded alleged rapist playing a utilitarian game, relying on his defense/run game, evading a few tackles here and there on account of his fat ass, and maybe orchestrating one impressive drive at the end of the game after his defense and running game do the bulk of the work to win. The guy is just not that impressive game to game and play to play like the true QB legends are. I don't believe history is going to treat him that kindly, even if he wins 3+ rings starting today. Don't get me wrong, the guy's team WINS, and his part in that is not to be taken lightly. I'd kill to have a QB like that play for my team. But, as a fan of the game, I just want to watch a monster talent in Rodgers consummate his abilities today. It's just the sexier outcome for me, even if I were a totally neutral fan.
No real need to defend your position Matt. A Browns fan rooting for the Steelers to ever win anything would be like a Red Sox fan rooting for the Yankees, and I promise you that would NEVER fucking happen...EVER! By the way, your assessment of Ben is spot on and win or not, Rapelisberger isn't Elway, Montana or Brady! I'll certainly give Ben props for winning, but it doesn't change the eyeball test for me and it doesn't change the fact that in his first Super Bowl, he had the worst performance EVER by a QB in the big game. I could have been the QB during Ben's first Super Bowl and the Steelers were still winning that game!
Kinda like what's his face for the Ravens in 2000?? Ben isn't EVER going to throw up the numbers Brady or Manning do, but you have to admit he has a knack for making big plays when the Steelers need it. And his performance in his last Super Bowl was pretty damn good.
You use of Rapelisberger tells me you aren't being objective, which is unusual for you when you don't have a dog in the fight. He was (is?) a pretty dispicable human being, but there is not denying that he is trying to change the kind of person he was to something better. In many ways that is a far more compelling story than Aaron Rogers stepping out of Brett Favre's shadow.
Ehwmatt wrote:[ it is still not nearly as compelling as a young guy redeeming a franchise whose heart was broken just three short years ago by the face of their team and possibly putting himself on the path towards NFL greatness with a victory tonight (provided he plays better than Ben did in his first SB stinker, at least).
It's not really about stepping out of Brett's shadow. That deepens the Rodgers factor for the game tonight. But, to me, what we have is a guy who shows all the early signs of being a legendary QB and leader. So, for me, the compelling aspect is seeing if this guy can start writing his legend tonight.
RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:[ it is still not nearly as compelling as a young guy redeeming a franchise whose heart was broken just three short years ago by the face of their team and possibly putting himself on the path towards NFL greatness with a victory tonight (provided he plays better than Ben did in his first SB stinker, at least).
It's not really about stepping out of Brett's shadow. That deepens the Rodgers factor for the game tonight. But, to me, what we have is a guy who shows all the early signs of being a legendary QB and leader. So, for me, the compelling aspect is seeing if this guy can start writing his legend tonight.
Ahhh...lest you forget the Pack tried to put him out to pasture...basically telling him (before he retired) that if he came back he would be sitting behind Rogers and be the elder statesman/mentor for the new kid in town. Favre wouldn't accept that (Would you?), and decided to try and move on because he thought he could still be an elite QB in the NFL. The Packers and their fans have NO ONE but their own organization to blame.
Ehwmatt wrote:RossValoryRocks wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:[ it is still not nearly as compelling as a young guy redeeming a franchise whose heart was broken just three short years ago by the face of their team and possibly putting himself on the path towards NFL greatness with a victory tonight (provided he plays better than Ben did in his first SB stinker, at least).
It's not really about stepping out of Brett's shadow. That deepens the Rodgers factor for the game tonight. But, to me, what we have is a guy who shows all the early signs of being a legendary QB and leader. So, for me, the compelling aspect is seeing if this guy can start writing his legend tonight.
Ahhh...lest you forget the Pack tried to put him out to pasture...basically telling him (before he retired) that if he came back he would be sitting behind Rogers and be the elder statesman/mentor for the new kid in town. Favre wouldn't accept that (Would you?), and decided to try and move on because he thought he could still be an elite QB in the NFL. The Packers and their fans have NO ONE but their own organization to blame.
Whatever the case may be there (and that's a tired can of worms to re-open today of all days when Favre is relegated to watching the game from home and penis texting), it doesn't change the fact that I'm far more interested in seeing a young exciting talent like Rodgers take the reigns of his legacy and light Cowboy Stadium up rather than seeing a reputed scumbag, reformed or not, win ugly tonight for the 3rd time in 6 years. I suspect most other neutral fans feel the same way.
RossValoryRocks wrote:
Kinda like what's his face for the Ravens in 2000??
RossValoryRocks wrote:You use of Rapelisberger tells me you aren't being objective, which is unusual for you when you don't have a dog in the fight. He was (is?) a pretty dispicable human being, but there is not denying that he is trying to change the kind of person he was to something better. In many ways that is a far more compelling story than Aaron Rogers stepping out of Brett Favre's shadow.
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