Eclipse Billboard - Flop

[Jubilee]

16k? I don't think anybody expected THIS. And I agree. This is criminal. I understand budgets are tight, but how much does it cost to set up a Twitter account & tweet? Nothing! It's FREE! HELLOOOO?!?! Heaven knows they didn't blow the entire advertising/marketing budget on the packaging. This has got to be Marketing 101. You have to let the people know the product is out there...assuming you intend for them to buy it.

then why didn't you complain about this three months ago when it would have mattered?

You're right, Monker. I said nothing. At the time I never dreamed anyone could be capable of such incompetence. Had I known they were going to f@ck it up, I would have done it myself.

(what is it with you and the quote thingy??)

You don't release an album and promote it the day of. Having a piece of cardboard that says "Journey - Eclipse" in a Wal-Mart the day of is not going to change much. Getting a build up of promotion leading up to the release is what sells albums. I knew Eclipse was not going to sell the numbers predicted here when NO single had any radio play...that should have raised a red flag for everybody in the forum...Instead, well, you all kept up the fantasy and you got what you got.

Colossal miscalculation, to be sure. So, if you know that, and I know that...how come nobody on Team Journey knew that?

I'm sure they do know that. My question back to you would be: Why doesn't Journey care enough to promote their album?

Well, that seems to be the 16k unit question, right? Why on earth go to all this effort, only to allow (or should I say ensure) the fruits of ones labor wither on the vine? The short answer is: I don't know.

[Monker]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

The DVD is not a model for new'ish concerts...it's not a good comparison.

When I saw them with Heart they performed three new songs, and two of them nobody cared about. They may try doing more with Eclipse, but I doubt it continues to the end of the tour...unless Neal is bull headed and doesn't want to accept reality. Well, OK, they'll probably perform 5 or six new songs on tour.

[Archetype]

Hey now Walmart couldn't have lost too much money on this. It isn't like they really spent any on it. Sounds like Neal and Jonathan did most of the work in the studio, and the disc comes in an incredibly cheap cardboard sleeve.

[Rockindeano]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

[Gideon]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

I'm not saying it wasn't true before, but they've played a number of new cuts since Arnel joined.

[YoungJRNY]

Travis
They will play 4-5 new songs , but those songs will not generate CD sales. They will generate beer sales and long bathroom lines

I respectively disagree my man. I've been to numerous Journey concerts over the years and the audience seemed to enjoy the living fuck out of their new material, alteast from what I saw. If there was any piss-breaks, it's actually during the GH's with songs like Open Arms and a few tone-downs in between favorites but once the crowd hear's the sharp and tough as nails guitar & the hardcore drums bust out, then any music fan won't take a piss break on any song to where good stuff is going on onstage. This is where the CD cover for Eclipse comes into play for all to see.

[YoungJRNY]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

Never Walk Away
Change For the Better
Wildest Dreams
After All These Years
Faith In The Heartland
and the occasional Where Did I Lose Your Love where all played during the Revelation tour and all the 3 concerts I attended during that year. Do the math.

[Monker]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

For Arrival, they started out strong, playing up to five of the new songs. By the end of the tour, they were down to two. But, they did perform every song on the album, except one.

You can't use Manilla as a comparison. That's just ridiculous....it was a longer concert in Arnel's hometown, that was filmed for DVD. It was not a regular tour stop.

They'll probably start out with 4 or so songs from Eclipse and then it will depend on how stubborn Neal decides to be and how many he is willing to cut.

[Jana]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

You keep wanting to rewrite history. We've all told you they didn't play a couple (two is a couple). They always played three or four. But I guess you don't like that number because it's not bad for a 90 minute concert. So go ahead stick to couple. And you ripped the DVD when it came out saying it was all GH and a couple of new songs, nothing like Bruce, blah, blah. We told you it was seven songs and even that didn't make you happy. They played four and five songs in the South America and Nevada concerts of the new songs this year. That doesn't make you happy because it doesn't fit your storyline.

[Gideon]

Yeah, they played around 3-4 cuts from Revelation pretty much the entire tour. Not bad at all.

[Rockindeano]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

Never Walk Away
Change For the Better
Wildest Dreams
After All These Years
Faith In The Heartland
and the occasional Where Did I Lose Your Love where all played during the Revelation tour and all the 3 concerts I attended during that year. Do the math.

I count 5, and FYI, FITH was from Generations. My God, you counting retreads as "new material?" I guess you'd be correct in the fact that that was the first time FITH was played live...Augeri mimed it every single time.

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

[Gideon]

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

It's more than what you said they did, dude. It's okay to be wrong every once and a while.

"Only the Young"
"Stone in Love"
"Any Way You Want It"
"Girl Can't Help It"
"Send Her My Love"
"Open Arms"
"Still They Ride"
"Strung Out"
"Suzanne"
"Lights"
"Wheel in the Sky"
"Raised on Radio"
"Ask the Lonely"
"Who's Crying Now"
"Oh Sherrie"
"Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'"
"Jailhouse Rock"
"Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)"
Encores:
"Be Good to Yourself"
"Don't Stop Believin'"
"Faithfully"

^ This is Wiki's ROR tour setlist. I count 4 tracks from ROR.

edit: Missed the title track.

[Monker]

Hey now Walmart couldn't have lost too much money on this. It isn't like they really spent any on it. Sounds like Neal and Jonathan did most of the work in the studio, and the disc comes in an incredibly cheap cardboard sleeve.

You have no idea how much money Wal-Mart lost because you have no idea how much money they advanced Journey, or how much they paid for the original stock at retail and the warehouse(s). Space is money for retail...for every disk not sold that is taking up space in a store, or in a warehouse, they are losing money. I bet this CD is on sale by the end of the month for half price so they can move the inventory and stop leaking $'s.

They are absolutely losing money with this CD...there is no doubt about it. They expected to sell more, a lot more...that is bad for any retail product.

[Memorex]

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

It's more than what you said they did, dude. It's okay to be wrong every once and a while.

"Only the Young"
"Stone in Love"
"Any Way You Want It"
"Girl Can't Help It"
"Send Her My Love"
"Open Arms"
"Still They Ride"
"Strung Out"
"Suzanne"
"Lights"
"Wheel in the Sky"
"Raised on Radio"
"Ask the Lonely"
"Who's Crying Now"
"Oh Sherrie"
"Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'"
"Jailhouse Rock"
"Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)"
Encores:
"Be Good to Yourself"
"Don't Stop Believin'"
"Faithfully"

^ This is Wiki's ROR tour setlist. I count 4 tracks from ROR.

edit: Missed the title track.

When I saw them, they also did Positive Touch, Raised On Radio, and I'll be Alright Without You. This list is not correct. I saw them 5 times on that tour.

[G.I.Jim]

Here's another 10 pager. This just SHOWS that they still need Perry! I'm being a smart-ass, but in all seriousness, the band needs to make some drastic changes. They need to kick Irving to the curb for his lack of promotion. Any two-bit manager would have done 10 times the amount of promotion than what was done with this album. Like has been said on here... Facebook, Twitter, etc... WTH aren't these being used? Why no appearances anywhere? TERRIBLE way to manage a band.

Also, for Frontiers (who named themselves after Journey's album) to do such terrible promoting of their #1 band, is inexcuseable. Maybe it's just that with the economy, there just isn't enough money or interest TO promote them? All I know is that this is the worst promotion strategy I've ever seen from a major act. I don't see Wally World ever offering up this deal again either. Pretty sad...

[YoungJRNY]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

Never Walk Away
Change For the Better
Wildest Dreams
After All These Years
Faith In The Heartland
and the occasional Where Did I Lose Your Love where all played during the Revelation tour and all the 3 concerts I attended during that year. Do the math.

I count 5, and FYI, FITH was from Generations. My God, you counting retreads as "new material?" I guess you'd be correct in the fact that that was the first time FITH was played live...Augeri mimed it every single time.

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

Haha, but that's where logic comes into play. Did anyone in there right MIND listen to Generations? Who out there in that single audience knew that FITH was off of the album Generations? How many copies did Generations sell? 9 (and I'm not talking about the 9/10 you gave it ) which brings us to a CD where MANY upon MANY CD's where sold with Revelation, which gave FITH exposure on an hot summer album.

To my understanding, FITH was placed on Revelation, re-tread or not. BTW: You started out with 2, fact gave you 7 but backpedaling was because of the DVD. We then brought it down to 4 because we'll cancel out the re-tread of FITH but if you count Where Did I Lose Your Love, which was very much played throughout the whole tour, that's 5. What else?

[Archetype]

It should also be noted that "Higher Place" was played pretty frequently during the second leg of the Revelation tour. So there's 5-6 "new" songs a night. I bet they'll do three Eclipse songs and 2-3 Arrival/Revelation songs for the Night Ranger/Foreigner tour

[Rockindeano]

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

It's more than what you said they did, dude. It's okay to be wrong every once and a while.

"Only the Young"
"Stone in Love"
"Any Way You Want It"
"Girl Can't Help It"
"Send Her My Love"
"Open Arms"
"Still They Ride"
"Strung Out"
"Suzanne"
"Lights"
"Wheel in the Sky"
"Raised on Radio"
"Ask the Lonely"
"Who's Crying Now"
"Oh Sherrie"
"Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'"
"Jailhouse Rock"
"Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)"
Encores:
"Be Good to Yourself"
"Don't Stop Believin'"
"Faithfully"

^ This is Wiki's ROR tour setlist. I count 4 tracks from ROR.

edit: Missed the title track.

Douchedick- I SAID, ROR did 4 regularly. In fact, the show I saw, they played Positive Touch and IBAWY in addition to the ones you mentioned. They shelved Suzanne because frankly, it didn't sound too good to the ears. So I was right, 4 reg. songs played on the ROR tour.

Shame on you for believing Wikipedia...they are always incorrect.

[Rockindeano]

It should also be noted that "Higher Place" was played pretty frequently during the second leg of the Revelation tour. So there's 5-6 "new" songs a night. I bet they'll do three Eclipse songs and 2-3 Arrival/Revelation songs for the Night Ranger/Foreigner tour

Goddammit- stay with me here people. Arrival is NOT new! it is a decade old FFS! And you are higher than shit if you think Journey will play 6 songs post 2000...NO WAY. Not with a three headed tour they won't. They have 80, 90 minutes max. That's 5 mins a song.

SW
SIL
AWYWI
DSB
Faithfully
OA
WITS
Lights
LTS
OTY
ATL
WCN
SHML
BGTY

There's 14...take away 2 or even 4, and you have time 4 max new tunes. I just don't see it. Hope I am wrong for your sakes!

[Rockindeano]

2- You see Eclipse selling after another GH tour? They aren't going to play anything off this album save for one or possibly two songs. Why are they going to play stuff off a new album that NO ONE has heard? In the "Glory Days" like Escape, Frontiers and even ROR, they played 7, 8 and up to 4 new songs from those albums, respectively. Look at these last years...you aren't getting 4 new numbers...you're lucky if you get 2.

If you're talking live, then this isn't true. Journey's played at least 3 or 4 new songs when I've seen them live. On the DVD, didn't they play 5-6?

Oh come on....Arrival there was 2, maybe, maybe 3 new songs if one was lucky....Generations there was 2, and Rev had a couple. Of course you are going to play more for a DVD...DVD's aren't 'real' in terms of what you'll get at a Journey show.

Never Walk Away
Change For the Better
Wildest Dreams
After All These Years
Faith In The Heartland
and the occasional Where Did I Lose Your Love where all played during the Revelation tour and all the 3 concerts I attended during that year. Do the math.

I count 5, and FYI, FITH was from Generations. My God, you counting retreads as "new material?" I guess you'd be correct in the fact that that was the first time FITH was played live...Augeri mimed it every single time.

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

Haha, but that's where logic comes into play. Did anyone in there right MIND listen to Generations? Who out there in that single audience knew that FITH was off of the album Generations? How many copies did Generations sell? 9 (and I'm not talking about the 9/10 you gave it ) which brings us to a CD where MANY upon MANY CD's where sold with Revelation, which gave FITH exposure on an hot summer album.

To my understanding, FITH was placed on Revelation, re-tread or not. BTW: You started out with 2, fact gave you 7 but backpedaling was because of the DVD. We then brought it down to 4 because we'll cancel out the re-tread of FITH but if you count Where Did I Lose Your Love, which was very much played throughout the whole tour, that's 5. What else?

I plead no contest, as I still have not listened to Revelation...not once.

[YoungJRNY]

Another thing to take into consideration: Even if the pissing match of right or wrong says Journey plays 0,2, or 5 songs from Eclipse (personally, I think they'll play 4-5) isn't this tour called the "Eclipse" Tour? That's gotta count for something to nudge marketing

[Tito]

There's simply no way to sugarcoat this ... this was a colossal flop and a total debut failure. I'm interested to see if management does something, anything, to try and stimulate sales. As Don said, they didn't get Walmart for this type of number. They could have done this through their own site. They got Walmart for (total) sales in the 100's of thousands, and that's not going to happen unless management holds Anderson's and Walmart's feet to the fire. If they even can (or care to). Either way, this is a week 1 disaster. Period. These numbers suck. Anyone celebrating in the Journey camp is off their rocker.

Literally, isn't 17k, equivalent week 10 numbers for Revelation. Didn't Revelation have a phenomenal first 3 or 4 weeks and gradually slide down. A major disappointment, but in hindsight not a surprise. There was absolutely 0 promotion for this. The only reason I knew they had an album was because of this site. 3 years ago, People Magazine, CBS News, Rockline, etc. This time - 0. I don't know if they thought everyone would know and it would sell itself and it wasn't worth to advertise for a small number of additional sales. I think there will be some advertisement for it, this week and maybe next, but it will be too late. Someone dropped the ball - management, Walmart, or both.

[Monker]

It should also be noted that "Higher Place" was played pretty frequently during the second leg of the Revelation tour. So there's 5-6 "new" songs a night. I bet they'll do three Eclipse songs and 2-3 Arrival/Revelation songs for the Night Ranger/Foreigner tour

Goddammit- stay with me here people. Arrival is NOT new! it is a decade old FFS! And you are higher than shit if you think Journey will play 6 songs post 2000...NO WAY. Not with a three headed tour they won't. They have 80, 90 minutes max. That's 5 mins a song.

SW
SIL
AWYWI
DSB
Faithfully
OA
WITS
Lights
LTS
OTY
ATL
WCN
SHML
BGTY

There's 14...take away 2 or even 4, and you have time 4 max new tunes. I just don't see it. Hope I am wrong for your sakes!

I thought it was only Foreigner and no NR in the US?

It's it's three on this tour then I doubt they go above three Eclipse songs.

[Don]

Another thing to take into consideration: Even if the pissing match of right or wrong says Journey plays 0,2, or 5 songs from Eclipse (personally, I think they;ll play 4-5) isn't this tour called the "Eclipse" Tour? That's gotta count for something

Actually, all the radio promo I have heard regarding the tour doesn't even mention the word Eclipse. Maybe it's different in other markets but here in SoCal, the ad runs like a greatest hits tour with your favorite bands of the '80s. I've heard people complaining here that they're even using Perry voiced songs in the promo in some states.

Journey will be doing a show dedicated to Escape and DSB on the CBS Sunday morning show sometime in July. Just more identification with the greatest hits as opposed to their new album.

[Rockindeano]

My last comment here, as I have more than made my point...

Azoff, if still retained, , needs to petition the NFL fgor next years Super Bowl. Look, as much as I despise this band, they DO have a catalog. They had Prince, Petty, Who, Bruce, McCartney.....I DO think Journey would be a good choice to play, except, and this just came to me...the Perry factor. IF the NFL could look past that, then this could be a viable choice...however, Bon Jovi has never played the SB, so in my mind, they would get the nod over Journey, BUT, a SB show could save an album...ask Bruce...it sure as shit saved his..Working on a Dream went 2X platinum after he played 13 mins on Nat'l TV. That's the only reason he played the damned game.

[WykkedSensation]

4 days to go and i'll tell you exactly what they play when i see em.

[Art Vandelay]

So you have 4 played regularly...Ooooooh, so aggressive of them!

It's more than what you said they did, dude. It's okay to be wrong every once and a while.

"Only the Young"
"Stone in Love"
"Any Way You Want It"
"Girl Can't Help It"
"Send Her My Love"
"Open Arms"
"Still They Ride"
"Strung Out"
"Suzanne"
"Lights"
"Wheel in the Sky"
"Raised on Radio"
"Ask the Lonely"
"Who's Crying Now"
"Oh Sherrie"
"Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'"
"Jailhouse Rock"
"Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)"
Encores:
"Be Good to Yourself"
"Don't Stop Believin'"
"Faithfully"

^ This is Wiki's ROR tour setlist. I count 4 tracks from ROR.

edit: Missed the title track.

Douchedick- I SAID, ROR did 4 regularly. In fact, the show I saw, they played Positive Touch and IBAWY in addition to the ones you mentioned. They shelved Suzanne because frankly, it didn't sound too good to the ears. So I was right, 4 reg. songs played on the ROR tour.

Shame on you for believing Wikipedia...they are always incorrect.

You're also overlooking Only the Young, Ask the Lonely, Strung Out, Oh Sherrie and Jailhouse Rock...which were five other songs never performed on a Journey tour. That makes for a decent set list padded with new material.

[amaron]

It's been obvious for years that the casual Journey fan does not give a shit about anything new.

New songs have been piss breaks since Arrival and I've seen it written here a hundred times that Neal/the band HATED seeing all those people jet once something they didn't know was played.

In the 80's Journey could play anything they wanted because they were white hot. Now, once the Arnel gimmick wears off, it'll be all over.

Hope Neal enjoys HIS album.

[Rockindeano]

Aw fuck it, last post-

What these nimirods should have done, was go out on the road, on an exclusive American/Canada tour with Shania Twain, and opened up. Screw the new crap. They could play 1 or 2 of the new ones sure, but just being on the bill with her, would ensure tons of sales of Eclipse. I just read her book, and she even mentions Journey on a page...she was a fan...not sure of now though.

Carry on.

On a more serious note tho- Journey is in real danger of sinking to the level of REO, Styx, and maybe even lower to Mr Big and Firehouse. Sure they have the back catalog, but so do the Beach Boys and they play 1200 seat theaters. Journey better be real careful this year. Like I have said before, there are 5 major rock acts left....U2, Bon Jovi, E Street Band, Petty and the Stones. Journey was kind of in the middle, trying to get to that staus, but not now.....they better hope they don't free fall down to Crazy Lixx territory. Hell, Bryan Adams is now a much bigger draw than Journey, yes, even here in the States. Why? Mgt. Promo, advertising, effort...

[Tito]

Anybody ever seen the Samuel L. Jackson movie, The Negotiator? How come I feel like if this album doesn't catch fire, somehow, and sell. Cain is going to be the David Morse character, Beck, and say "I'm back in charge" (the part where Samuel Jackson's character leaves the federal building). I see this happening behind the scenes in Journey's camp in a couple of weeks.