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Postby conversationpc » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:53 pm

S2M wrote:SH and AM are too close to Sabbath for my tastes. Dehumanizer and the new Heaven and Hell are too heavy for my tastes....the thing most blinded fans fail to realize is it is OK to not like EVERYTHING by an artist. Going back, I loved the brilliant Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, and subsequent Live Evil. And let's not even get into the brilliance that is Rainbow...

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Agreed on everything except "Strange Highways". It's not my favorite Dio album by an stretch of the imagination but I do like it better than just about everything that came after it.
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Postby Pelata » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:31 pm

S2M wrote:SH and AM are too close to Sabbath for my tastes. Dehumanizer and the new Heaven and Hell are too heavy for my tastes....the thing most blinded fans fail to realize is it is OK to not like EVERYTHING by an artist. Going back, I loved the brilliant Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules, and subsequent Live Evil. And let's not even get into the brilliance that is Rainbow...

Holy Diver
Last in Line
Sacred Heart
Dream Evil

PURE MASTERPIECES

everything after is hit & miss


Nobody has to like everything...I'm not too fond of the Dio (band) material after SH myself...I just defend the SH album. After that, pre-Sabbath/H&H reunion, the stuff was hit & miss for me too.
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Postby verslibre » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:54 am

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"Strange Highways", and "Angry Machines" need to be burned.....


Strange Highways is a blistering album!! :shock: It's like where Dehumanizer left off...dark, deep & heavy!


Yep...A step above "Lock Up the Wolves" before it and certainly better than "Angry Machines" after it.


Okay, let's not get silly here. :lol: Strange Highways was something of a sleeper when it came out, with an awesome opening track, but it doesn't trump Lock Up The Wolves. Dio had a helluva band on that album, including none other than Jens Johansson on keyboards. Of all the guitarists Dio worked with throughout his post-Rainbow/Sabbath era, the consensus is that Tracy G was the least impressive, with Campbell, Goldy and Aldrich being the best.


I could care less about consensus...to me, Tracy G was the most Iommi-like guitarist he ever had. He wasn't the shredder Goldy or Campbell was, but his tone & style were quite heavy & dark...much more so than his presecessors. Even Angry Machines had a couple of cool songs on it.


Tracy G's tone was more like Iommi's than the others' but as a player he's nowhere near the level of Vivian/Craig/Doug. And why do you care about "most Iommi-like" when Vivian's work on Holy Diver, The Last In Line and Sacred Heart is unreal? Not to mention you get Iommi's godly playing on no fewer than four studio albums with Dio's voice (Sabbath/H&H) and a couple live albums, too.
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Postby Pelata » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:52 am

verslibre wrote:
Pelata wrote:
verslibre wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Pelata wrote:
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"Strange Highways", and "Angry Machines" need to be burned.....


Strange Highways is a blistering album!! :shock: It's like where Dehumanizer left off...dark, deep & heavy!


Yep...A step above "Lock Up the Wolves" before it and certainly better than "Angry Machines" after it.


Okay, let's not get silly here. :lol: Strange Highways was something of a sleeper when it came out, with an awesome opening track, but it doesn't trump Lock Up The Wolves. Dio had a helluva band on that album, including none other than Jens Johansson on keyboards. Of all the guitarists Dio worked with throughout his post-Rainbow/Sabbath era, the consensus is that Tracy G was the least impressive, with Campbell, Goldy and Aldrich being the best.


I could care less about consensus...to me, Tracy G was the most Iommi-like guitarist he ever had. He wasn't the shredder Goldy or Campbell was, but his tone & style were quite heavy & dark...much more so than his presecessors. Even Angry Machines had a couple of cool songs on it.


Tracy G's tone was more like Iommi's than the others' but as a player he's nowhere near the level of Vivian/Craig/Doug. And why do you care about "most Iommi-like" when Vivian's work on Holy Diver, The Last In Line and Sacred Heart is unreal? Not to mention you get Iommi's godly playing on no fewer than four studio albums with Dio's voice (Sabbath/H&H) and a couple live albums, too.


Nothing in the Dio (band) catalog touches the first 3...I just like SH when so many others don't. It was a change from the melodic, catchy Dio back to a more Sabbath-like vibe and I liked it.
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