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Postby slucero » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:36 am

interesting post from Tommy Denander in the Noticeboards section...

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-855265

I KNOW what he sounds like today!!!!
Posted by: Tommy-Denander ()
Date: August 24, 2011 03:48PM

I've had the wonderful pleasure of spending 2 full days recently with Steve in the studio while producing my artist Vic Heart.
Steve absolutely loved Vic and called him one of the very best voices he's ever heard (which is a true fact)...but he also helped us arrange some backing vocals and i was singing harmonies with him in the control room on loud volume...his voice is AMAZING!!!!!

Don't believe all the bull shit being spread about huge artists like this...they are 99% false all the time.
Steve's problems with health has been normal but painful stuff with a muscle in his neck and i think something with his back or hip...how could you even perform or wanna sing when you're in pain all the time???

He told me he is feeling really good now which is all the matters.
He is an artist so of course he has written and recorded a lot of songs over the years but he said that he has no idea if he ever wants to release any of it.

I'm not allowed to use it at this point but i hope someday he says OK to me showing some VERY funny videos i shot in the studio :D
He is a VERY funny guy...the hang we had with him, Vinnie Colaiuta, George Hawkins jr, Niko Bolas etc in Capitol was waaaaaaaay too much fun :)


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Postby Gideon » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:36 am

Yea, cause a double platinum album (using normal math) with 4 top 40 hits is always worse than something that can't sell 100k copies.


...Baby One More Time by Britney Spears is certified 14x platinum and has sold 26 million albums worldwide. By LoonLogic, Britney Spears is better than Steve Perry and her albums are better than his. And by a lot.

Which begs the next question: Are Loons naturally stupid or do you all get together and devise new, innovative strategies for it? :shock: :roll: :lol:

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portland wrote:Your young, there is still time to develop some taste. :wink: :lol: :twisted:


Eh, could be worse: I could be listening to Street Talk. :shock: :oops: :twisted: :P :lol:



Eh! , if you "think" words and txts are sufficient why use five emoticons to "try" [to] make your point. :shock:


The obvious answer is that one cannot ascertain intent through text, since there isn't inflection or tone to communicate such things, hence the use of emoticons. But I guess 'intent', 'inflection', and 'tone' are things that can't be explained, right? :lol:
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Postby tater1977 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:17 am

slucero wrote:interesting post from Tommy Denander in the Noticeboards section...

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-855265

I KNOW what he sounds like today!!!!
Posted by: Tommy-Denander ()
Date: August 24, 2011 03:48PM

I've had the wonderful pleasure of spending 2 full days recently with Steve in the studio while producing my artist Vic Heart.
Steve absolutely loved Vic and called him one of the very best voices he's ever heard (which is a true fact)...but he also helped us arrange some backing vocals and i was singing harmonies with him in the control room on loud volume...his voice is AMAZING!!!!!

Don't believe all the bull shit being spread about huge artists like this...they are 99% false all the time.
Steve's problems with health has been normal but painful stuff with a muscle in his neck and i think something with his back or hip...how could you even perform or wanna sing when you're in pain all the time???

He told me he is feeling really good now which is all the matters.
He is an artist so of course he has written and recorded a lot of songs over the years but he said that he has no idea if he ever wants to release any of it.

I'm not allowed to use it at this point but i hope someday he says OK to me showing some VERY funny videos i shot in the studio :D
He is a VERY funny guy...the hang we had with him, Vinnie Colaiuta, George Hawkins jr, Niko Bolas etc in Capitol was waaaaaaaay too much fun :)




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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:24 am

Gideon wrote:The obvious answer is that one cannot ascertain intent through text, since there isn't inflection or tone to communicate such things, hence the use of emoticons. But I guess 'intent', 'inflection', and 'tone' are things that can't be explained, right? :lol:


I know your text isn't as funny as you think it is, therefore; the :lol: :lol: after
your posts make zero sense ...so, yes, inexplicable!! >>> :?
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Postby Don » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:01 am

Emoticons should be removed from this site. How sincere are people when they use these things anyway? They just clutter things up for the most part.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:12 am

Don wrote:Emoticons should be removed from this site. How sincere are people when they use these things anyway? They just clutter things up for the most part.
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Postby portland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:04 am

slucero wrote:interesting post from Tommy Denander in the Noticeboards section...

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-855265

I KNOW what he sounds like today!!!!
Posted by: Tommy-Denander ()
Date: August 24, 2011 03:48PM

I've had the wonderful pleasure of spending 2 full days recently with Steve in the studio while producing my artist Vic Heart.
Steve absolutely loved Vic and called him one of the very best voices he's ever heard (which is a true fact)...but he also helped us arrange some backing vocals and i was singing harmonies with him in the control room on loud volume...his voice is AMAZING!!!!!

Don't believe all the bull shit being spread about huge artists like this...they are 99% false all the time.
Steve's problems with health has been normal but painful stuff with a muscle in his neck and i think something with his back or hip...how could you even perform or wanna sing when you're in pain all the time???

He told me he is feeling really good now which is all the matters.
He is an artist so of course he has written and recorded a lot of songs over the years but he said that he has no idea if he ever wants to release any of it.

I'm not allowed to use it at this point but i hope someday he says OK to me showing some VERY funny videos i shot in the studio :D
He is a VERY funny guy...the hang we had with him, Vinnie Colaiuta, George Hawkins jr, Niko Bolas etc in Capitol was waaaaaaaay too much fun :)



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Postby Gideon » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:11 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Gideon wrote:The obvious answer is that one cannot ascertain intent through text, since there isn't inflection or tone to communicate such things, hence the use of emoticons. But I guess 'intent', 'inflection', and 'tone' are things that can't be explained, right? :lol:


I know your text isn't as funny as you think it is, therefore; the :lol: :lol: after
your posts make zero sense ...so, yes, inexplicable!! >>> :?


You're right, it's probably funnier. :lol:
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:17 am

slucero wrote:interesting post from Tommy Denander in the Noticeboards section...

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-855265

I KNOW what he sounds like today!!!!
Posted by: Tommy-Denander ()
Date: August 24, 2011 03:48PM

I've had the wonderful pleasure of spending 2 full days recently with Steve in the studio while producing my artist Vic Heart.
Steve absolutely loved Vic and called him one of the very best voices he's ever heard (which is a true fact)...but he also helped us arrange some backing vocals and i was singing harmonies with him in the control room on loud volume...his voice is AMAZING!!!!!

Don't believe all the bull shit being spread about huge artists like this...they are 99% false all the time.
Steve's problems with health has been normal but painful stuff with a muscle in his neck and i think something with his back or hip...how could you even perform or wanna sing when you're in pain all the time???

He told me he is feeling really good now which is all the matters.
He is an artist so of course he has written and recorded a lot of songs over the years but he said that he has no idea if he ever wants to release any of it.

I'm not allowed to use it at this point but i hope someday he says OK to me showing some VERY funny videos i shot in the studio :D
He is a VERY funny guy...the hang we had with him, Vinnie Colaiuta, George Hawkins jr, Niko Bolas etc in Capitol was waaaaaaaay too much fun :)



Now that is very interesting indeed. Not just about his chronic pain issues, but especially about his indecision over whether he wants to release any of the material he recorded. Thanks for posting.
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Postby TRAGChick » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:30 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:
slucero wrote:interesting post from Tommy Denander in the Noticeboards section...

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-855265

I KNOW what he sounds like today!!!!
Posted by: Tommy-Denander ()
Date: August 24, 2011 03:48PM

I've had the wonderful pleasure of spending 2 full days recently with Steve in the studio while producing my artist Vic Heart.
Steve absolutely loved Vic and called him one of the very best voices he's ever heard (which is a true fact)...but he also helped us arrange some backing vocals and i was singing harmonies with him in the control room on loud volume...his voice is AMAZING!!!!!

Don't believe all the bull shit being spread about huge artists like this...they are 99% false all the time.
Steve's problems with health has been normal but painful stuff with a muscle in his neck and i think something with his back or hip...how could you even perform or wanna sing when you're in pain all the time???

He told me he is feeling really good now which is all the matters.
He is an artist so of course he has written and recorded a lot of songs over the years but he said that he has no idea if he ever wants to release any of it.

I'm not allowed to use it at this point but i hope someday he says OK to me showing some VERY funny videos i shot in the studio :D
He is a VERY funny guy...the hang we had with him, Vinnie Colaiuta, George Hawkins jr, Niko Bolas etc in Capitol was waaaaaaaay too much fun :)



Now that is very interesting indeed. Not just about his chronic pain issues, but especially about his indecision over whether he wants to release any of the material he recorded. Thanks for posting.


I REEEEEEEEEEEEALLLLLY hope that Tommy is telling the truth here.

Remember the whole "Steve Perry sang LIVE a few days ago!!" posting on that Board...?
He refused to answer anybody's questions about it. :roll: :x
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:19 am

TRAGChick wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:
slucero wrote:interesting post from Tommy Denander in the Noticeboards section...

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-855265

I KNOW what he sounds like today!!!!
Posted by: Tommy-Denander ()
Date: August 24, 2011 03:48PM

I've had the wonderful pleasure of spending 2 full days recently with Steve in the studio while producing my artist Vic Heart.
Steve absolutely loved Vic and called him one of the very best voices he's ever heard (which is a true fact)...but he also helped us arrange some backing vocals and i was singing harmonies with him in the control room on loud volume...his voice is AMAZING!!!!!

Don't believe all the bull shit being spread about huge artists like this...they are 99% false all the time.
Steve's problems with health has been normal but painful stuff with a muscle in his neck and i think something with his back or hip...how could you even perform or wanna sing when you're in pain all the time???

He told me he is feeling really good now which is all the matters.
He is an artist so of course he has written and recorded a lot of songs over the years but he said that he has no idea if he ever wants to release any of it.

I'm not allowed to use it at this point but i hope someday he says OK to me showing some VERY funny videos i shot in the studio :D
He is a VERY funny guy...the hang we had with him, Vinnie Colaiuta, George Hawkins jr, Niko Bolas etc in Capitol was waaaaaaaay too much fun :)



Now that is very interesting indeed. Not just about his chronic pain issues, but especially about his indecision over whether he wants to release any of the material he recorded. Thanks for posting.


I REEEEEEEEEEEEALLLLLY hope that Tommy is telling the truth here.

Remember the whole "Steve Perry sang LIVE a few days ago!!" posting on that Board...?
He refused to answer anybody's questions about it. :roll: :x


I'm sure he refused to discuss because he was respecting Perry's privacy. As for if he's telling the truth -- I don't see what Tommy gains from lying. That said -- define "amazing". FTLOSM amazing? TBF amazing? David Pack amazing? We may never know.
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Postby Gideon » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:21 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:That said -- define "amazing". FTLOSM amazing? TBF amazing? David Pack amazing?


I personally regard none of these as vocally amazing, with the possible exception of FTLOSM. :?
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:43 am

Gideon wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:That said -- define "amazing". FTLOSM amazing? TBF amazing? David Pack amazing?


I personally regard none of these as vocally amazing, with the possible exception of FTLOSM. :?


Amazing backing vocals are sometimes sung in baritone. Was it ball park amazing? :wink:
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Postby portland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:46 am

Amazing is in the ear of the listener....it's subjective.
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:40 am

steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:That said -- define "amazing". FTLOSM amazing? TBF amazing? David Pack amazing?


I personally regard none of these as vocally amazing, with the possible exception of FTLOSM. :?


Amazing backing vocals are sometimes sung in baritone. Was it ball park amazing? :wink:


New rule:
Maniacal cheerleaders with political agendas don't get to have a say on this subject. Loons, can I get an amen? :lol:
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:45 am

Gideon wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:That said -- define "amazing". FTLOSM amazing? TBF amazing? David Pack amazing?


I personally regard none of these as vocally amazing, with the possible exception of FTLOSM. :?


The point of my comment was that it's in the ear of the beholder. If Tommy considers what Perry did on David Pack's song amazing, then that's what he means by amazing -- but other might not agree.

I actually think some of his deepest most powerful and heartfelt deliveries are found on a combination of FTLOSM and ROR. If he managed to bring FTLOSM quality vocals to a recording session, I think I'd find myself repeatedly chanting "there is a God, there is a God, there is a God". That said, I think these days he has to gear his new material to the voice he has today, not try to create the next version of faithfully. If the material he's laid down in recent years is in say, the Jeff Golub vein, I think it would fit perfectly and I'd be thrilled to have it.

What made Perry a standout wasn't just his technical skill set. It was what he did with it. It was his art. It was his style. It was his delivery -- and -- it was unique. If he can bring his art style and delivery with lesser voice, I'd still be a happy fan.
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Postby portland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:53 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:That said -- define "amazing". FTLOSM amazing? TBF amazing? David Pack amazing?


I personally regard none of these as vocally amazing, with the possible exception of FTLOSM. :?


Amazing backing vocals are sometimes sung in baritone. Was it ball park amazing? :wink:


New rule:
Maniacal cheerleaders with political agendas don't get to have a say on this subject. Loons, can I get an amen? :lol:




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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:03 pm

portland wrote:Ahem, Andrew?


Nothing there to change what I have said time and again.
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Postby portland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:04 pm

Andrew wrote:
portland wrote:Ahem, Andrew?


Nothing there to change what I have said time and again.



OK so he is toast...voice done?
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:12 pm

portland wrote:
Andrew wrote:
portland wrote:Ahem, Andrew?


Nothing there to change what I have said time and again.



OK so he is toast...voice done?


I'm paraphrasing, but Andrew has said that it reportedly hurts/is problematic/is difficult for Perry to sing for extended periods (i.e. full concerts). Doesn't mean he can't lay down studio tracks, take a break, come back to it (should he be so inclined). And if that's his modus operandi, I have no problem with it. I don't have to see the guy live. I want (new) music that I (want) to hear repeatedly in my headphones.

So no, not toast...voice done.
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Postby TRAGChick » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:15 pm

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portland wrote:
Andrew wrote:
portland wrote:Ahem, Andrew?


Nothing there to change what I have said time and again.



OK so he is toast...voice done?


I'm paraphrasing, but Andrew has said that it reportedly hurts/is problematic/is difficult for Perry to sing for extended periods (i.e. full concerts).

Doesn't mean he can't lay down studio tracks, take a break, come back to it (should he be so inclined).
And if that's his modus operandi, I have no problem with it. I don't have to see the guy live.
I want (new) music that I (want) to hear repeatedly in my headphones.


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Postby portland » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:18 pm

I think you are all delusional. Sorry Andrew! :P
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Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:25 pm

portland wrote:I think you are all delusional. Sorry Andrew! :P


I'll keep my opinions on your post to myself.

I've never ever said Steve can't sing...I have said many times though that his voice is not what it was and I stand by that 100% - it isn't up to the high standard he holds for himself. There is obviously a lot more to it and I have commented on what Tommy has stated, that it is physically challenging for him to sing.

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Postby STORY_TELLER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:26 pm

portland wrote:I think you are all delusional. Sorry Andrew! :P


Well, I guess you have to count Tommy Denander, Steve Lukather, and Russ Miller (you know, the guy who has reported he played drums on an album titled "Steve Perry: Still Here" which is found on his website) in that grouping too then. :lol:

Denander has pretty much let us know the issue is Perry doesn't want to release the material. He's probably not happy with it. Doesn't mean it's bad, it means it's not living up to his personal standards. Time will tell if that changes. The ball is in Perry's court. Always will be.
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Postby majik » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:27 pm

Gideon wrote:
Yea, cause a double platinum album (using normal math) with 4 top 40 hits is always worse than something that can't sell 100k copies.


...Baby One More Time by Britney Spears is certified 14x platinum and has sold 26 million albums worldwide. By LoonLogic, Britney Spears is better than Steve Perry and her albums are better than his. And by a lot.

Which begs the next question: Are Loons naturally stupid or do you all get together and devise new, innovative strategies for it? :shock: :roll: :lol:

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portland wrote:Your young, there is still time to develop some taste. :wink: :lol: :twisted:


Eh, could be worse: I could be listening to Street Talk. :shock: :oops: :twisted: :P :lol:



Eh! , if you "think" words and txts are sufficient why use five emoticons to "try" [to] make your point. :shock:


The obvious answer is that one cannot ascertain intent through text, since there isn't inflection or tone to communicate such things, hence the use of emoticons. But I guess 'intent', 'inflection', and 'tone' are things that can't be explained, right? :lol:


Now you've got it well done, glad you have taken it on board, here is one emoticon to express my joy. :D
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Postby Greg » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:26 am

Andrew wrote:
portland wrote:I think you are all delusional. Sorry Andrew! :P


I'll keep my opinions on your post to myself.

I've never ever said Steve can't sing...I have said many times though that his voice is not what it was and I stand by that 100% - it isn't up to the high standard he holds for himself. There is obviously a lot more to it and I have commented on what Tommy has stated, that it is physically challenging for him to sing.

We all hope for a comeback....hopefully one day we can get to the bottom of it.


But, what exactly does he mean by physically challenging for Steve Perry to sing? Is it a vocal chord injury? Is it some other condition that keeps him from being "active" with his music? Or, is it just too challenging for him to try and replicate his 1980's voice? I don't believe there is a soul on these forums who thinks that Steve Perry could sing like the Steve Perry of 1981. I, for one, wouldn't expect him to come anywhere close to that. But, if he could sing like he did on "I Stand Alone", I'd take that!
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Postby portland » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:10 am

Andrew wrote:
portland wrote:I think you are all delusional. Sorry Andrew! :P


I'll keep my opinions on your post to myself.

I've never ever said Steve can't sing...I have said many times though that his voice is not what it was and I stand by that 100% - it isn't up to the high standard he holds for himself. There is obviously a lot more to it and I have commented on what Tommy has stated, that it is physically challenging for him to sing.

We all hope for a comeback....hopefully one day we can get to the bottom of it.




Until then we can all hang out here and discuss it! :wink:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:30 am

TRAGChick wrote:OH....:oops:

Sorry; forgot the link:
http://bohemeartist.com/


What am I looking for on this page here? Or am I supposed to be listening? :?:
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:21 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:OH....:oops:

Sorry; forgot the link:
http://bohemeartist.com/


What am I looking for on this page here? Or am I supposed to be listening? :?:


Andrew posted about it on the MR. main page a number of days/weeks ago. I think you can find out about it there.
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Postby TRAGChick » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:07 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:OH....:oops:

Sorry; forgot the link:
http://bohemeartist.com/


What am I looking for on this page here? Or am I supposed to be listening? :?:


Hey there....

Scroll down to the Song Samples, below the large picture ~ Steve's backup vox are on the Song "Follow The Freedom".
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