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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:39 am

Um...."Loutallica"....?? :shock:

Some of the "purchase instead" comments are pretty good.

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The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time!
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:56am PDT by Rob O'Connor in List Of The Day

With the impending doom of Loutallica and its 19-minute "Junior Dad" lurking in the pre-release shadows, it's time to list the Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time.

(For those blissfully unaware, Loutallica is the forthcoming Lou Reed / Metallica album(??!!) that no one is looking forward to.)

In order to qualify for "Worst Heavy Metal Album," the band in question needed to be somewhat famous. After all, why kick a band when it's down, who were never up in the first place?

I would like to thank my crack team for helping out here. Special shout out to two very serious metal veterans, John Chernack of the legendary and deliberately misspelled Fantom Warior and Joey Leshko from the classic heavy metal band Back From The Dead. They didn't wish to speak ill of fellow metal bands. But they coughed up a couple here. I'm not telling you which ones so you can't blame them!

The comments below are mine. So blame me for insulting your beloved album. But, really, if you're going to get mad about someone slamming Music From "The Freakin' Elder," how much of a true metalhead can you be?

All Van Halen albums with Sammy Hagar qualify for this list. But that was too obvious.

:arrow: Do NOT bang your head to any of the following:

10)Kiss - Music From "The Elder": There comes a time in every young man's life where he must confront the fact that some bands aren't meant to evolve, because when they do, they're worse. New drummer Eric Carr showed up just in time to be part of the worst album in the KISS catalog. It's a concept album, based on an idea from the man who would put his name on anything if it generated a buck, Gene Simmons. Before Loutallica, Lou Reed co-wrote three of the songs here. I guess, even crappiness takes practice!

Purchase instead: Kiss, Hotter Than Hell, Dressed to Kill, Alive!, Alive II, and a KISS pinball machine and/or coffin.

9) Def Leppard - Slang: The 1980s were over. Just as big hair looked kinda dumb and dated while everyone was flyin' the flannel, so, too, did big super-precise productions sound ill-fitted for the new decade when everyone whined. So, after Adrenalize sounded tired, Def Leppard went back to basics. Even drummer Rick Allen used an acoustic kit. But no one buys Def Leppard albums for their natural tone. Metal dudes buy them because their girlfriends like them. And their girlfriends miss the grand productions like they secretly miss their big hair! Be who you are!

Purchase instead: High ‘n' Dry and a case of Aqua-Net hairspray.

8) Motley Crue - Motley Crue: Along those lines, who buys a Motley Crue album for John Corabi? At least, the band didn't waste any good songs on their new singer. What kind of world is it where you wish Vince Neil would come back?

Purchase instead: Dr. Feelgood and life insurance.

7) Black Sabbath - Never Say Die: I remember how much people hated Ronnie James Dio when he first joined up with Black Sabbath. It was considered sacrilege. Who would dare take Ozzy's place in this great band? But then you listen to their last album together and you realize that it's probably a good idea if these guys start seeing less of each other. Supposedly, there already were, which is why this album sounds like no one wanted to finish it.

Purchase instead: Black Sabbath, Paranoid, Master of Reality, Vol. 4, Sabotage and Quaaludes.

6) Raven - The Pack Is Back: Raven were building a strong base back in the early 1980s, but then, like so many bands who wanted to stay employed, they listened to their record company and made this, this...thing, complete with a cover of the Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin'." Because everyone knows you break an underground metal band with a Stevie Winwood song. Stay Hard began the descent (This was a band that once headlined over Metallica and Anthrax.). But The Pack Is Back is like one of those horrible Sly Stone albums where the title tells their audience, "No, Really, We Don't Suck Anymore!" But, sadly, they do!

Purchase instead: Rock Until You Drop, Wiped Out and some crayons to make a better album cover.

5) Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark: You really have to worry about a metal band that develops a fear of the dark. What are we, three years old? They also developed a fear of writing anything you could remember. Unlike the good ol' days where these guys sounded like they were galloping through the hills ready for war, here, they sound like they're galloping in circles trying to find who to blame for this mess.

Purchase instead: Iron Maiden, Killers, Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind and a lifesize "Eddie."

4) Twisted Sister - Come Out and Play: Twisted Sister were one of those bands whose records I would find in the cutout bin while they were still on the album charts. Someone wanted these guys to be huge! So much so that they had the band record a cover of "Leader of the Pack," which I guess is a step-up from an original called "Be Chrool To Your Scuel." Docked a point for writing "I Believe in Rock ‘n' Roll." Don't sing about it, fellas! Play some!

Purchase instead: Under the Blade, You Can't Stop Rock n' Roll and a one-way ticket to Long Island. Live the dream!

3) Ozzy Osbourne - Bark At the Moon: There are certain rules to heavy metal that must be observed.

The first rule is FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER.
:arrow: Let him join a progressive rock or pop band where he belongs.
:lol:

Back in the 1980s, you could determine a heavy metal album's terribleness by the amount of cheesy synthesizer used on it. Maybe we need to cut Ozzy some slack here. He did lose his guitar player Randy Rhoads, but then again maybe Ozzy should refund me the money I wasted on this album. When in doubt, ask What Would Lemmy Do? (Answer: Lemmy would FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER.)

Purchase instead: Blizzard of Ozz, Diary of A Madman and Aleister Crowley's castle.

2) Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy: Anyone who tells you this album was "worth the wait" is likely still under contract with W. Axl Rose or trying to justify paying real money for it. After taking a century's worth of work, the album was about what you'd expect from a Guns N' Roses with no Slash, no Izzy, no Duff. If you enjoy this, you probably thought "Civil War" needed more piano.

Purchase instead: Appetite for Destruction and anger management courses.

1) Metallica - Load, Reload, St. Anger: It's a three-way tie for first (or last, depending on how you see this). The band that defined metal for a new generation of fans sounded confused for Load, and its baby brother Reload and tinny and constipated for St. Anger. It almost makes you like the album they made with the orchestra.

Purchase instead: Kill ‘Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All and Some Kind Of Monster to help things become clear.
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Re: The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time

Postby Monker » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:10 am

You forgot whatever Jethro Tull album won the Grammy.

TRAGChick wrote:Um...."Loutallica"....?? :shock:

Some of the "purchase instead" comments are pretty good.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/listof ... -all-time/

The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time!
Posted Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:56am PDT by Rob O'Connor in List Of The Day

With the impending doom of Loutallica and its 19-minute "Junior Dad" lurking in the pre-release shadows, it's time to list the Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time.

(For those blissfully unaware, Loutallica is the forthcoming Lou Reed / Metallica album(??!!) that no one is looking forward to.)

In order to qualify for "Worst Heavy Metal Album," the band in question needed to be somewhat famous. After all, why kick a band when it's down, who were never up in the first place?

I would like to thank my crack team for helping out here. Special shout out to two very serious metal veterans, John Chernack of the legendary and deliberately misspelled Fantom Warior and Joey Leshko from the classic heavy metal band Back From The Dead. They didn't wish to speak ill of fellow metal bands. But they coughed up a couple here. I'm not telling you which ones so you can't blame them!

The comments below are mine. So blame me for insulting your beloved album. But, really, if you're going to get mad about someone slamming Music From "The Freakin' Elder," how much of a true metalhead can you be?

All Van Halen albums with Sammy Hagar qualify for this list. But that was too obvious.

:arrow: Do NOT bang your head to any of the following:

10)Kiss - Music From "The Elder": There comes a time in every young man's life where he must confront the fact that some bands aren't meant to evolve, because when they do, they're worse. New drummer Eric Carr showed up just in time to be part of the worst album in the KISS catalog. It's a concept album, based on an idea from the man who would put his name on anything if it generated a buck, Gene Simmons. Before Loutallica, Lou Reed co-wrote three of the songs here. I guess, even crappiness takes practice!

Purchase instead: Kiss, Hotter Than Hell, Dressed to Kill, Alive!, Alive II, and a KISS pinball machine and/or coffin.

9) Def Leppard - Slang: The 1980s were over. Just as big hair looked kinda dumb and dated while everyone was flyin' the flannel, so, too, did big super-precise productions sound ill-fitted for the new decade when everyone whined. So, after Adrenalize sounded tired, Def Leppard went back to basics. Even drummer Rick Allen used an acoustic kit. But no one buys Def Leppard albums for their natural tone. Metal dudes buy them because their girlfriends like them. And their girlfriends miss the grand productions like they secretly miss their big hair! Be who you are!

Purchase instead: High ‘n' Dry and a case of Aqua-Net hairspray.

8) Motley Crue - Motley Crue: Along those lines, who buys a Motley Crue album for John Corabi? At least, the band didn't waste any good songs on their new singer. What kind of world is it where you wish Vince Neil would come back?

Purchase instead: Dr. Feelgood and life insurance.

7) Black Sabbath - Never Say Die: I remember how much people hated Ronnie James Dio when he first joined up with Black Sabbath. It was considered sacrilege. Who would dare take Ozzy's place in this great band? But then you listen to their last album together and you realize that it's probably a good idea if these guys start seeing less of each other. Supposedly, there already were, which is why this album sounds like no one wanted to finish it.

Purchase instead: Black Sabbath, Paranoid, Master of Reality, Vol. 4, Sabotage and Quaaludes.

6) Raven - The Pack Is Back: Raven were building a strong base back in the early 1980s, but then, like so many bands who wanted to stay employed, they listened to their record company and made this, this...thing, complete with a cover of the Spencer Davis Group's "Gimme Some Lovin'." Because everyone knows you break an underground metal band with a Stevie Winwood song. Stay Hard began the descent (This was a band that once headlined over Metallica and Anthrax.). But The Pack Is Back is like one of those horrible Sly Stone albums where the title tells their audience, "No, Really, We Don't Suck Anymore!" But, sadly, they do!

Purchase instead: Rock Until You Drop, Wiped Out and some crayons to make a better album cover.

5) Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark: You really have to worry about a metal band that develops a fear of the dark. What are we, three years old? They also developed a fear of writing anything you could remember. Unlike the good ol' days where these guys sounded like they were galloping through the hills ready for war, here, they sound like they're galloping in circles trying to find who to blame for this mess.

Purchase instead: Iron Maiden, Killers, Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind and a lifesize "Eddie."

4) Twisted Sister - Come Out and Play: Twisted Sister were one of those bands whose records I would find in the cutout bin while they were still on the album charts. Someone wanted these guys to be huge! So much so that they had the band record a cover of "Leader of the Pack," which I guess is a step-up from an original called "Be Chrool To Your Scuel." Docked a point for writing "I Believe in Rock ‘n' Roll." Don't sing about it, fellas! Play some!

Purchase instead: Under the Blade, You Can't Stop Rock n' Roll and a one-way ticket to Long Island. Live the dream!

3) Ozzy Osbourne - Bark At the Moon: There are certain rules to heavy metal that must be observed.

The first rule is FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER.
:arrow: Let him join a progressive rock or pop band where he belongs.
:lol:

Back in the 1980s, you could determine a heavy metal album's terribleness by the amount of cheesy synthesizer used on it. Maybe we need to cut Ozzy some slack here. He did lose his guitar player Randy Rhoads, but then again maybe Ozzy should refund me the money I wasted on this album. When in doubt, ask What Would Lemmy Do? (Answer: Lemmy would FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER.)

Purchase instead: Blizzard of Ozz, Diary of A Madman and Aleister Crowley's castle.

2) Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy: Anyone who tells you this album was "worth the wait" is likely still under contract with W. Axl Rose or trying to justify paying real money for it. After taking a century's worth of work, the album was about what you'd expect from a Guns N' Roses with no Slash, no Izzy, no Duff. If you enjoy this, you probably thought "Civil War" needed more piano.

Purchase instead: Appetite for Destruction and anger management courses.

1) Metallica - Load, Reload, St. Anger: It's a three-way tie for first (or last, depending on how you see this). The band that defined metal for a new generation of fans sounded confused for Load, and its baby brother Reload and tinny and constipated for St. Anger. It almost makes you like the album they made with the orchestra.

Purchase instead: Kill ‘Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All and Some Kind Of Monster to help things become clear.
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Postby Memorex » Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:29 am

Anything with an Eddie Ojeda solo.
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Re: The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time

Postby TRAGChick » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:18 am

Monker wrote:You forgot whatever Jethro Tull album won the Grammy.


That was discussed in the "reply" area of this Forum....wasn't pretty! :lol:
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Re: The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time

Postby conversationpc » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:00 am

TRAGChick wrote:All Van Halen albums with Sammy Hagar qualify for this list. But that was too obvious.


Van Halen is not a metal band anyway but this guy is smoking crack.

10)Kiss - Music From "The Elder": There comes a time in every young man's life where he must confront the fact that some bands aren't meant to evolve, because when they do, they're worse. New drummer Eric Carr showed up just in time to be part of the worst album in the KISS catalog. It's a concept album, based on an idea from the man who would put his name on anything if it generated a buck, Gene Simmons. Before Loutallica, Lou Reed co-wrote three of the songs here. I guess, even crappiness takes practice!


There are actually two or three songs on this album I like and it is a full pantload better than "Dynasty".

9) Def Leppard - Slang: The 1980s were over. Just as big hair looked kinda dumb and dated while everyone was flyin' the flannel, so, too, did big super-precise productions sound ill-fitted for the new decade when everyone whined. So, after Adrenalize sounded tired, Def Leppard went back to basics. Even drummer Rick Allen used an acoustic kit. But no one buys Def Leppard albums for their natural tone. Metal dudes buy them because their girlfriends like them. And their girlfriends miss the grand productions like they secretly miss their big hair! Be who you are!


"Slang" is far better than "Adrenalyze" or anything that came after it, for that matter.

8) Motley Crue - Motley Crue: Along those lines, who buys a Motley Crue album for John Corabi? At least, the band didn't waste any good songs on their new singer. What kind of world is it where you wish Vince Neil would come back?


This album is actually a good album but it sounds nothing like Motley Crue.

5) Iron Maiden - Fear of the Dark: You really have to worry about a metal band that develops a fear of the dark. What are we, three years old? They also developed a fear of writing anything you could remember. Unlike the good ol' days where these guys sounded like they were galloping through the hills ready for war, here, they sound like they're galloping in circles trying to find who to blame for this mess.


"Fear of the Dark" is a much better album than its predecessor "No Prayer for the Dying" and the next two studio albums after it, "The X Factor" and "Virtual XI".

3) Ozzy Osbourne - Bark At the Moon: There are certain rules to heavy metal that must be observed.

The first rule is FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER.
:arrow: Let him join a progressive rock or pop band where he belongs.
:lol:

Back in the 1980s, you could determine a heavy metal album's terribleness by the amount of cheesy synthesizer used on it. Maybe we need to cut Ozzy some slack here. He did lose his guitar player Randy Rhoads, but then again maybe Ozzy should refund me the money I wasted on this album. When in doubt, ask What Would Lemmy Do? (Answer: Lemmy would FIRE THE KEYBOARD PLAYER.)


Again, a much better album than this numbskull gives it credit for.

2) Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy: Anyone who tells you this album was "worth the wait" is likely still under contract with W. Axl Rose or trying to justify paying real money for it. After taking a century's worth of work, the album was about what you'd expect from a Guns N' Roses with no Slash, no Izzy, no Duff. If you enjoy this, you probably thought "Civil War" needed more piano.


I actually like "Chinese Democracy" even though it sounds like a completely different band.

1) Metallica - Load, Reload, St. Anger: It's a three-way tie for first (or last, depending on how you see this). The band that defined metal for a new generation of fans sounded confused for Load, and its baby brother Reload and tinny and constipated for St. Anger. It almost makes you like the album they made with the orchestra.


Absolutely correct. This band was castrated after the Black Album.
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Re: The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time

Postby conversationpc » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:01 am

TRAGChick wrote:
Monker wrote:You forgot whatever Jethro Tull album won the Grammy.


That was discussed in the "reply" area of this Forum....wasn't pretty! :lol:


What's so funny about that album winning that Grammy was that it wasn't even a hard rock album much less heavy metal.
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Postby ebake02 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:29 am

Def Leppard's Hysteria should've been on that list too.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:47 am

ebake02 wrote:Def Leppard's Hysteria should've been on that list too.


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Postby AR » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:58 am

ebake02 wrote:Def Leppard's Hysteria should've been on that list too.


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Postby AR » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:59 am

I don't think Iron Maiden's "Fear Of The Dark" belongs on the list.
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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 pm

AR wrote:I don't think Iron Maiden's "Fear Of The Dark" belongs on the list.


Well, that's the WHOLE REASON WHY I posted this.

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Postby ebake02 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:09 pm

Andrew wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Def Leppard's Hysteria should've been on that list too.


:shock:


Hysteria blows ass plain and simple. Love Bites is the only good song off that album.
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Postby AR » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:15 pm

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ebake02 wrote:Def Leppard's Hysteria should've been on that list too.


:shock:


Hysteria blows ass plain and simple. Love Bites is the only good song off that album.


I detest it as well. Leppard's first 3 albums were great. After that I only like a handful of songs.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:22 pm

"Slang" is a MONSTER album, every single song listenable, with 5-6 absolute gems. Wankers didn't even listen to it, I guarantee it.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:00 pm

Seven Wishes wrote:"Slang" is a MONSTER album, every single song listenable, with 5-6 absolute gems. Wankers didn't even listen to it, I guarantee it.


Slang is terrific. Very underrated.

Hysteria is a masterpiece. Every second of it. Same with Pyromania too.
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Postby verslibre » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:07 pm

Andrew wrote:Hysteria is a masterpiece. Every second of it. Same with Pyromania too.


Theoretically impossible since Pyromania > Hysteria. :wink:
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Postby No Surprize » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:20 pm

ebake02 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Def Leppard's Hysteria should've been on that list too.


:shock:


Hysteria blows ass plain and simple. Love Bites is the only good song off that album.


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Postby No Surprize » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:25 pm

Andrew wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:"Slang" is a MONSTER album, every single song listenable, with 5-6 absolute gems. Wankers didn't even listen to it, I guarantee it.


Slang is terrific. Very underrated.

Hysteria is a masterpiece. Every second of it. Same with Pyromania too.



Agree 100%.

"Love Bites" the only good song on here. Your entitled to your useless opinion but your dead ass wrong on that.

"Slang", besides the title song is a great under rated album.
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Postby marco17 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:45 pm

Andrew wrote:
Seven Wishes wrote:"Slang" is a MONSTER album, every single song listenable, with 5-6 absolute gems. Wankers didn't even listen to it, I guarantee it.


Slang is terrific. Very underrated.

Hysteria is a masterpiece. Every second of it. Same with Pyromania too.


Totally agree on your Slang comment Andrew. It was very different at the time, but looking back now, it was really a trailblazing album and would certainly not sound out of the ordinary for a band like Def Leppard to produce today. That being said, it was not Hysteria or Adrenalize, so it scared A LOT of people away. Like Journey, there is a certain sound that everyone expects DL to have, and if it isn't what they hear, they hate it. "X" was another good album, but again, away from their usual sound, and people didn't welcome it either.
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:59 am

The two albums below are Def Leppard at its very best.....


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Postby ebake02 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:45 am

Agreed. Leppard sold out big time when they made Hysteria.
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Postby Pelata » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:57 am

ebake02 wrote:Agreed. Leppard sold out big time when they made Hysteria.


There's not a band on the planet that gets that big without "selling out" (ie, making changes)...
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:08 am

Actually i do enjoy a few things from Hysteria and i like that album but that particular one is the last one i really liked.Pretty much anything after Steve Clarke died is when that band was over for me.After Steve Clarke died Def Leppard lost its spark.Hell of a guitar player.
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Postby SF-Dano » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:21 am

Pelata wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Agreed. Leppard sold out big time when they made Hysteria.


There's not a band on the planet that gets that big without "selling out" (ie, making changes)...


Changes in band members maybe, but several "big" bands never (sold-out) drastically changed there sound/style ala DL. If anything, DL is one of the exceptions not the rule. Not to mention DL changed after their biggest selling album to that point. Gutsy move, I give them that, but they were not for my tastes after.

AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Whitesnake, Megadeth, Slayer, Y&T, Tesla, Dokken, Bon Jovi, and many others. None made as drastic a change as DL did. The closest I can come to a comparison would be Metallica from AJFA to the black album. But still not as much of a change as DL.
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Postby S2M » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:42 am

Pelata wrote:
ebake02 wrote:Agreed. Leppard sold out big time when they made Hysteria.


There's not a band on the planet that gets that big without "selling out" (ie, making changes)...


'Selling out', or 'Out selling'?

And in the traditional sense, 'selling out' doesn't simply mean making changes...it entails leaving what you started out doing - in order to make a buck, by playing what is in at the moment, or something that is more radio friendly. Like Journey did with 'Infinity', and then with 'Escape'....

Selling out usually leads to 'Out Selling'.
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Postby verslibre » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:04 am

SF-Dano wrote:AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Whitesnake, Megadeth, Slayer, Y&T, Tesla, Dokken, Bon Jovi, and many others. None made as drastic a change as DL did.


Whitesnake's comparable. "Is This Love" = "Love Bites." Both songs of that sort were alien to what those bands did pre-'85.
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Postby mikemarrs » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:32 am

This list also includes a lot of albums from 80's bands who tried to change their sound in the 90's to fit in with grunge.

It didn't work for Motley Crue when they changed everything in '94

It didn't work Def Leppard in '96 with Slang

It didn't work for Skid Row with Subhuman Race in '95

It didn't work for Poison with Native Tongue in '93

It didn't work for Bon Jovi with These Days in '95

It didn't work for KISS with Carnival Of Souls in '97

Most of these bands barely got a gold album or some didn't even get gold with these releases.

Metallica even tried it with Load and chopped off their hair and did alternative festivals in '96

A few bands like Whitesnake,Cinderella,Ratt and a few others simply went away in that era because they knew they weren't going to appeal to the indie fanbases.

AC/DC was the one band who didn't change too much but they only released one studio album the entire 90's decade after The Razors Edge.Ballbreaker in '95 was pretty much the same 'ol AC/DC sound we all knew them for.
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Postby gr8dane » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:20 am

Sure everybody wanted Ozzy,but really,Never Say Die is one outstanding album.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:40 am

gr8dane wrote:Sure everybody wanted Ozzy,but really,Never Say Die is one outstanding album.


There are maybe two good songs on that album...The rest of it blows big time.
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Re: The Ten Worst Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time

Postby artist4perry » Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:52 am

conversationpc wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:
Monker wrote:You forgot whatever Jethro Tull album won the Grammy.


That was discussed in the "reply" area of this Forum....wasn't pretty! :lol:


What's so funny about that album winning that Grammy was that it wasn't even a hard rock album much less heavy metal.


Nothing says Heavy Metal like a flute player burning those finger pads............... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:
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