Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they belong.

General Intelligent Discussion & One Thread About That Buttknuckle

Moderator: Andrew

Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they belong.

Postby ebake02 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:11 am

Penn Staters across the globe should feel no shame in saying "We are…Penn State." - Joe Paterno
ebake02
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3122
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:01 pm
Location: Northeast

Postby AR » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:18 am

Well he has to pull them so they can invade Iran. :wink:
User avatar
AR
Digital Audio Tape
 
Posts: 8530
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:21 am

Postby Yoda » Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:42 am

AR wrote:Well he has to pull them so they can invade Iran. :wink:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I hope everybody reads the fine print!
“Do or do not... there is no try.”
User avatar
Yoda
8 Track
 
Posts: 702
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:36 am

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby mr.v » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:06 am


It is about time....election time!
mr.v
45 RPM
 
Posts: 213
Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:35 am

Postby steveo777 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:44 am

AR wrote:Well he has to pull them so they can invade Iran. :wink:


Yup, another part of the axis of evil. :wink:
User avatar
steveo777
MP3
 
Posts: 11311
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:15 pm
Location: Citrus Heights, Ca

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:56 am

mr.v wrote:

It is about time....election time!


Couldn't have said it better myself. What a freaking embarrassment. :? They're also going to try to pass another useless stimulus bill and say it's to keep teachers, cops, and firefighters employed. That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt, they're going to look like the assholes and look like they're against the common man. :roll: I'm so sick of politics and politicians. They all make me sick! :?
The artist formerly known as Jim. :-)
G.I.Jim
MP3
 
Posts: 10100
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:06 pm
Location: Your Momma's house

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:52 am

G.I.Jim wrote:That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt...


Interest rates remain very low - we can afford more debt. What we can't afford is the continuing vicious cycle of job loss, depressed tax revenues, and economic stagnation. Hunkering down and praying to the invisible hand of the free market is not a solution.
"I think we should all sue this women for depriving us of our God given right to go down with a clear mind, and good thoughts." - Stu, Consumate Pussy Eater
User avatar
The_Noble_Cause
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 16055
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:14 am
Location: Lake Titicaca

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby RossValoryRocks » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:29 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt...


Interest rates remain very low - we can afford more debt. What we can't afford is the continuing vicious cycle of job loss, depressed tax revenues, and economic stagnation. Hunkering down and praying to the invisible hand of the free market is not a solution.


Are you nuts?? Consumer interest rates are low...the interest rates on our debt is anything but low. You know better than that. Just the interest payments on the US debt is $454 Billion!!!! The government only brings in $2.3 trillion...we eat up almost 20% just servicing the debt...that's fucking insane!
User avatar
RossValoryRocks
Stereo LP
 
Posts: 3830
Joined: Wed Feb 12, 2003 4:47 pm

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:56 am

RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt...


Interest rates remain very low - we can afford more debt. What we can't afford is the continuing vicious cycle of job loss, depressed tax revenues, and economic stagnation. Hunkering down and praying to the invisible hand of the free market is not a solution.


Are you nuts?? Consumer interest rates are low...the interest rates on our debt is anything but low. You know better than that. Just the interest payments on the US debt is $454 Billion!!!! The government only brings in $2.3 trillion...we eat up almost 20% just servicing the debt...that's fucking insane!


Foreigners keep buying up our debt. I'm not worried about it. Japan's debt-to-GDP ratio remains skyhigh and they are doing so-so. Those that think the economy will fix it itself are subscribing to an alternate fairy tale timeline of history. More tax cuts (like "Nine, nine, nine!") are not what the doctor ordered.
"I think we should all sue this women for depriving us of our God given right to go down with a clear mind, and good thoughts." - Stu, Consumate Pussy Eater
User avatar
The_Noble_Cause
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 16055
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:14 am
Location: Lake Titicaca

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby conversationpc » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:27 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
RossValoryRocks wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt...


Interest rates remain very low - we can afford more debt. What we can't afford is the continuing vicious cycle of job loss, depressed tax revenues, and economic stagnation. Hunkering down and praying to the invisible hand of the free market is not a solution.


Are you nuts?? Consumer interest rates are low...the interest rates on our debt is anything but low. You know better than that. Just the interest payments on the US debt is $454 Billion!!!! The government only brings in $2.3 trillion...we eat up almost 20% just servicing the debt...that's fucking insane!


Foreigners keep buying up our debt. I'm not worried about it. Japan's debt-to-GDP ratio remains skyhigh and they are doing so-so. Those that think the economy will fix it itself are subscribing to an alternate fairy tale timeline of history. More tax cuts (like "Nine, nine, nine!") are not what the doctor ordered.


I don't think anyone thinks it's going to completely fix itself. We have to quit spending and start paying down on our debt in a major way.
My blog = Dave's Dominion
User avatar
conversationpc
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 17830
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 am
Location: Slightly south of sanity...

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:37 am

conversationpc wrote:We have to quit spending and start paying down on our debt in a major way.


There's nothing wrong with that, but it won't put people back to work, or create consumer demand.
"I think we should all sue this women for depriving us of our God given right to go down with a clear mind, and good thoughts." - Stu, Consumate Pussy Eater
User avatar
The_Noble_Cause
Super Audio CD
 
Posts: 16055
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:14 am
Location: Lake Titicaca

Postby Yoda » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:46 am

No expert with politics whatsoever, but I always seem to side with the idea of paying down debt first.
“Do or do not... there is no try.”
User avatar
Yoda
8 Track
 
Posts: 702
Joined: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:36 am

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:26 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt...


Interest rates remain very low - we can afford more debt. What we can't afford is the continuing vicious cycle of job loss, depressed tax revenues, and economic stagnation. Hunkering down and praying to the invisible hand of the free market is not a solution.


You wont be suprised to find out that I dont agree.

Its only natural that if savers buy government bonds to cover government debt then there is naturally less money to be saved / invested elsewhere , which means that there is less investment money to be pumped in the private sector. If you are a lender looking for a customer to buy your money, and the government comes and buys it, you aren't going to bend over back wards to find other people (private entities) to go and buy that money. However, if the goverment wont take you money and yuou are banker, you will go out and agressively find another customer. (the alternative is just to shut down your finance business)

To take the discussion away from money. If you are farmer with 100 baskets of apples and you take your wagon into town and one big customer buys almost all of your apples, you aren't going to worry about finding another customer. If you have 5 basket left you will sell those five left over baskets a higher price than you would have normally done. Same thing applies to financiers. they dont look for customers for finaance offering attractive deals and new business partners . And what does get provided to the private sector does come at a higher price (even if it is historically low)

The crowding out of this alternative investment is what really kills an economy when a keynesian approach is followed.

This is one reason (just one reason) why we actually cant afford more goverment debt - (and why government spending wont put any one to work or improve the economy)
Matt
User avatar
Gin and Tonic Sky
Cassette Tape
 
Posts: 1926
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:46 am
Location: in a purple and gold haze

Re: Obama is finally bringing our troops home where they bel

Postby perryswoman » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:17 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
mr.v wrote:

It is about time....election time!


Couldn't have said it better myself. What a freaking embarrassment. :? They're also going to try to pass another useless stimulus bill and say it's to keep teachers, cops, and firefighters employed. That way when the republicans shoot it down because we can't afford any more debt, they're going to look like the assholes and look like they're against the common man. :roll: I'm so sick of politics and politicians. They all make me sick! :?


Me too and I am convinced that no one can fix this mess this county is in now.
Come back Steve Perry!!
perryswoman
Cassette Tape
 
Posts: 1020
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:25 am
Location: sc


Return to Snowmobiles For The Sahara

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

cron