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The_Noble_Cause wrote:During the FTLOSM tour, Perry used to introduce "Missing You" by saying how he learned to accept the feeling of being without Sherrie in his life and that it was OK to simply miss someone. Acknowledge the feeling of loss without trying to act on it. He echoed similar sentiments about the band in Andrew's monster of an interview. Saying things, like, "I really do love the Journey guys and I know in their hearts they love me....Maybe we don't like each other that much, but we do love each other." Sounds like he's in a really good place. I would love to get a rebuttal from Herbie or Neal concerning Perry bringing the band back together for TBF. He makes it sound like the Chalfant-Rolie lineup wasn't ever in the works.
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annie89509 wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:During the FTLOSM tour, Perry used to introduce "Missing You" by saying how he learned to accept the feeling of being without Sherrie in his life and that it was OK to simply miss someone. Acknowledge the feeling of loss without trying to act on it. He echoed similar sentiments about the band in Andrew's monster of an interview. Saying things, like, "I really do love the Journey guys and I know in their hearts they love me....Maybe we don't like each other that much, but we do love each other." Sounds like he's in a really good place. I would love to get a rebuttal from Herbie or Neal concerning Perry bringing the band back together for TBF. He makes it sound like the Chalfant-Rolie lineup wasn't ever in the works.
Monker, TNC...we may never know the true story. Don't know the exact timeline...but didn't SP do and come out with his solo record (FTLOSM) before the Chalfant-Rolie lineup was ever contemplated? My thoughts are this... when SP showed up at the Bill Graham tribute (1991), after several years of (perceived) seclusion and sang with JC/NS, people thought the band was back together. For all intents and purpose, Journey was SP/NS/JC as Ross and Smitty were previously dismissed last in '86. But, instead of getting back with the band, Steve went solo with a record in '94. Adding insult to injury (for the Journey folks), Steve proceeded to talk, then embarked, on a solo tour. This is when (I think) they started to get serious about reforming Journey with Kevin as the LS. Who knows?...maybe Sony didn't like the idea...maybe KC was used as a threat to get SP to come back. What we do know is...when SP made that call, Jon/Neal gladly took Steve back. That is an undisputed fact.
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RedWingFan wrote:annie89509 wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:During the FTLOSM tour, Perry used to introduce "Missing You" by saying how he learned to accept the feeling of being without Sherrie in his life and that it was OK to simply miss someone. Acknowledge the feeling of loss without trying to act on it. He echoed similar sentiments about the band in Andrew's monster of an interview. Saying things, like, "I really do love the Journey guys and I know in their hearts they love me....Maybe we don't like each other that much, but we do love each other." Sounds like he's in a really good place. I would love to get a rebuttal from Herbie or Neal concerning Perry bringing the band back together for TBF. He makes it sound like the Chalfant-Rolie lineup wasn't ever in the works.
Monker, TNC...we may never know the true story. Don't know the exact timeline...but didn't SP do and come out with his solo record (FTLOSM) before the Chalfant-Rolie lineup was ever contemplated? My thoughts are this... when SP showed up at the Bill Graham tribute (1991), after several years of (perceived) seclusion and sang with JC/NS, people thought the band was back together. For all intents and purpose, Journey was SP/NS/JC as Ross and Smitty were previously dismissed last in '86. But, instead of getting back with the band, Steve went solo with a record in '94. Adding insult to injury (for the Journey folks), Steve proceeded to talk, then embarked, on a solo tour. This is when (I think) they started to get serious about reforming Journey with Kevin as the LS. Who knows?...maybe Sony didn't like the idea...maybe KC was used as a threat to get SP to come back. What we do know is...when SP made that call, Jon/Neal gladly took Steve back. That is an undisputed fact.
Add to that the fact that the only way Steve Smith was coming back was if Perry was involved. It was Perry that got Smith back into the band.
Monker wrote:RedWingFan wrote:annie89509 wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:During the FTLOSM tour, Perry used to introduce "Missing You" by saying how he learned to accept the feeling of being without Sherrie in his life and that it was OK to simply miss someone. Acknowledge the feeling of loss without trying to act on it. He echoed similar sentiments about the band in Andrew's monster of an interview. Saying things, like, "I really do love the Journey guys and I know in their hearts they love me....Maybe we don't like each other that much, but we do love each other." Sounds like he's in a really good place. I would love to get a rebuttal from Herbie or Neal concerning Perry bringing the band back together for TBF. He makes it sound like the Chalfant-Rolie lineup wasn't ever in the works.
Monker, TNC...we may never know the true story. Don't know the exact timeline...but didn't SP do and come out with his solo record (FTLOSM) before the Chalfant-Rolie lineup was ever contemplated? My thoughts are this... when SP showed up at the Bill Graham tribute (1991), after several years of (perceived) seclusion and sang with JC/NS, people thought the band was back together. For all intents and purpose, Journey was SP/NS/JC as Ross and Smitty were previously dismissed last in '86. But, instead of getting back with the band, Steve went solo with a record in '94. Adding insult to injury (for the Journey folks), Steve proceeded to talk, then embarked, on a solo tour. This is when (I think) they started to get serious about reforming Journey with Kevin as the LS. Who knows?...maybe Sony didn't like the idea...maybe KC was used as a threat to get SP to come back. What we do know is...when SP made that call, Jon/Neal gladly took Steve back. That is an undisputed fact.
Add to that the fact that the only way Steve Smith was coming back was if Perry was involved. It was Perry that got Smith back into the band.
You guys are just flat out wrong.
The fact is the band, Neal, Jon, Steve Smith, Gregg Rolie, and Kevin Chalfant was together writing music. This lineup was first together at the Herbie Herbert roast which occurred while Perry was RECORDING FTLOSM...In fact that was his reason why he did not attend.
Steve Perry was even specifically asked about the Journey 'reunion/' without him in an interview (Kerrang?) and he said he knew about it and basically said the others had their time to be solo and do what they wanted to do outside of Journey, now it was his time to do his solo thing.
Then there is the FACT that during one of Perry's canceled Florida shows they had a band meeting to decide the future of Journey, who was going to be in the band. That is where it was decided that Perry was in and Gregg, Kevin and Herbie were out.
The phone call that Perry is always talking about may have been to get that meeting together and put forth his arguments and interests in being in Journey again...but the band, every other member, was already together without him.
But, that doesn't quite go with what Neal was saying at the time...that they were going to get Perry back in the band even if they had to hold him down and torture him...This was after the band meeting and I always felt that it was just PR bullshit and Perry was already in the band, and Neal knew it. But, it was a PR nightmare for Perry since his solo tour was still going at that time...but it was soon canceled and it was announced that he had joined the reunion.
Also, the Bill Graham tribute was not supposed to be billed as Journey. Neal did not like that at all...in fact he said that Journey was always: Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, Steve Perry, AND Steve Smith, AND Ross Valory in a later interview,.
So, the phone call that got the band together is Perry's perspective on this...but it doesn't show the big picture of everything that was happening at that time. If you ignore all of the above, it makes it sound like Perry pulled the entire band back together with one phone call. That is frankly a fantasy and not true at all.
journey361 wrote:I know this is gonna sound kinda crazy, but how do we actually know that was the man himself (Steve Perry). I'm not so sure it was after reading through some of the answers to some of the outstanding questions. And i'm not alone on this one either as others have cemented there opinions as well.
Andrew wrote:journey361 wrote:I know this is gonna sound kinda crazy, but how do we actually know that was the man himself (Steve Perry). I'm not so sure it was after reading through some of the answers to some of the outstanding questions. And i'm not alone on this one either as others have cemented there opinions as well.
Oh Lordy!! Now I've heard it all!!!
Lora, can we get a voice analysis of the interview done please?
journey361 wrote:I know this is gonna sound kinda crazy, but how do we actually know that was the man himself (Steve Perry). I'm not so sure it was after reading through some of the answers to some of the outstanding questions. And i'm not alone on this one either as others have cemented there opinions as well.
It seems odd to me Perry would build a corner of his house to set up a drum set (kit) and record on a computer. He needs all that room and space i would think for those 50-plus songs he written and recorded through the years.
And also give Neil props for anything is what struck me the most. Neil has called him out so many times. (Steve, " your a F-stupid ass B_____d", and a lousy washed up singer, ") through the years. That's something coming from a very below average guitarist of any circle. I'm more inclined to believe that may have been an imposter. Possibly Chris Allen or maybe Scotty McCreery remembering their pre-idol days.
Andrew wrote:Maybe this isn't the real me?
Monker wrote:I know there are other threads on the interview but I just wanted to start my own because nobody has been more critical of Perry's interviews then me.
I think it's the most insightful interview Perry has given in a long time, decades probably. No cryptic msgs like "I never felt like part of the band" or "I think about touring all the time..." It's just plain simple conversation about subjects that everybody wants to read about and get answers to. It seems to me that Perry went into this wanting to talk and those really make the best interviews...not some interviewer trying to force an answer out of somebody who doesn't want to answer that question...
He still says some thing that don't quite sit well with me..like him bringing the band together...the band was already together, just not with hm. But, that's his perspective on things and in the big picture it's probably not that important anyway...and least it's not so important to me any longer.
The best thing that I get out of this is he let go of so much of the past and is able to just continue on without the negative feelings that even he admits he had in the beginning after TBF. That's a good thing and I'm glad he is able to do that.
His reasoning for being gone for so long is pretty much what I thought...I still don't think a tour or any live shows will ever happen...he dodged those questions pretty much. But, maybe by the end of the decade we'll see another album. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
But, overall it was a great honest, open interview. He should have done it 15yrs ago!
Andrew wrote:journey361 wrote:I know this is gonna sound kinda crazy, but how do we actually know that was the man himself (Steve Perry). I'm not so sure it was after reading through some of the answers to some of the outstanding questions. And i'm not alone on this one either as others have cemented there opinions as well.
Oh Lordy!! Now I've heard it all!!!
Lora, can we get a voice analysis of the interview done please?
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:Andrew wrote:journey361 wrote:I know this is gonna sound kinda crazy, but how do we actually know that was the man himself (Steve Perry). I'm not so sure it was after reading through some of the answers to some of the outstanding questions. And i'm not alone on this one either as others have cemented there opinions as well.
Oh Lordy!! Now I've heard it all!!!
Lora, can we get a voice analysis of the interview done please?
It doesn't matter. We're all just living in the Matrix anyway.
Arkansas wrote:Perry doesn't need a record offer or a hard date to finish his songs. He needs Schon & Cain to finish them.
If he can still sing, or if he can't, it'd be pretty darned cool to at least see his name on a few writing credits.
I still don't know why he can't be part of the band....even if only in the studio.
later~
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