THE DARK KNIGHT RISES... OK, I'm excited now! :)

[steveo777]

3-D has become the biggest ripoff around, and I'm perfectly fine without it. IMAX, I can go for.

The last 3-D movie I saw was Avatar and I really got the full effect of it. There are some people who cannot see in 3-D. By any chance, are you one of them? I don't feel "ripoff" is the proper term, but I do believe everyone's individual experiences may vary.

[verslibre]

Michael Caine talked to The Mirror about why there isn't more info about TDKR floating around:

"On Batman you get shot if you speak about [the film]," Caine told The Mirror. “When you do one of the films it’s like signing the Official Secrets Act. The director Chris Nolan is the most secretive guy. The first time he came to me for Batman he came to my house in the country on a Sunday morning. I opened the door and he was standing there with a script. He said, 'Do you want to play the Butler?' He stayed while I read it and took the script away. He wouldn’t trust me with it! But this one will definitely be the best ever."

[YoungJRNY]

The round up of 200,000 voters have spoken (Yahoo.com)

[G.I.Jim]

The round up of 200,000 voters have spoken (Yahoo.com)

Just because you clicked the "vote" button 199,999 times, doesn't prove anything.

[YoungJRNY]

The round up of 200,000 voters have spoken (Yahoo.com)

Just because you clicked the "vote" button 199,999 times, doesn't prove anything.

Touche' sir

[Red13JoePa]

I could not wait for The Dark Knight to end.

[verslibre]

Just because you clicked the "vote" button 199,999 times, doesn't prove anything.

Beat me to it.

I'll take stats of actual comics (unit) sales sold over any poll.

[YoungJRNY]

Batman has had Superman's number for the most part of this decade (in comic sales) only because Batman has had some serious runs and the height and peak of popularity within Hollywood has really excelled the Bat-franchise on all levels. It's only fitting for Batman to wipe Superman clean in sales over the past years but the new re-boot is peaking interest back to the Man of Steel. It's funny as if Superman VS Batman is debated like they are some kind of enemy against each other. In fact, they are the big 2 that keeps the DC kettle brewing. As lame as Superman has been over the last years (and he's been written HORRIBLY year after year in the late 90's throughout the 2000's) he's still DC's flagship overall character in how DC would like to combat Marvel (DC has made up ground against Marvel's overall sales with the NewDCU.)

Here are the overall top ten comic sales for January. Good for DC! Dominated the month with every DC title in the top 10 over Marvel.

[verslibre]

Those are the same figures I referenced on the first page, nine or ten posts from the bottom.

To me, Superman vs. Batman = Captain America vs. Spider-man, etc.

Btw, it's funny how everyone writes "peaking" when they mean piquing.

[Gideon]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

[YoungJRNY]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

[Gideon]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

I didn't mean in skillset, I mean in effectiveness. Doesn't everyone break out of Arkham to terrorize and kill at will?

[Frontiers65]

We all know Spider-Man is number one.

[verslibre]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

I didn't mean in skillset, I mean in effectiveness. Doesn't everyone break out of Arkham to terrorize and kill at will?

Arkham's full of nuts and flakes.

[verslibre]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

Well said. Where was all this in our previous discussions? Inside the hidden pocket of your top hat?

[verslibre]

We all know Spider-Man is number one.

Daredevil and Spidey were my two #1 Marvel characters when my comics collecting was at its fever pitch.

I'd like a DD reboot to erase that crap with Affleck, Farrell and Garner. Rearrange the first letters of their surnames and you get "GAF" (as in "gaffe").

[YoungJRNY]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

Well said. Where was all this in our previous discussions? Inside the hidden pocket of your top hat?

It was there (more-so in the pocket of my cape ) but our debates were more of the cartoonish style of how Superman is better than Batman or vice versa Those discussion's get out of control real quick and is fun to go in circles for a rebuttal standpoint. That was strictly my view of the Batman.

[Gideon]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

I didn't mean in skillset, I mean in effectiveness. Doesn't everyone break out of Arkham to terrorize and kill at will?

Arkham's full of nuts and flakes.

Clearly. A buddy of mine played the Arkham City game and I was horrified to see that Batman ends the game by gingerly and compassionately carrying the Joker's corpse to the police.... meanwhile, Talia, his supposed one true love, is an afterthought and so is her corpse. I don't read the comics so I admit I'm not openly in a position to judge accurately, but between this and the fact that Batman continues to put his enemies in the remarkably impotent Arkham stands testament to the idea that for all his brilliance, wealth, and martial prowess, this guy isn't really effective as a hero. But perhaps he suffers from Hero syndrome? The idea was spoofed somewhat in Mystery Men: Captain Amazing was so effective as a hero that he, in a calculated act of publicity, arranged for one of his archenemies to be released from the asylum in order to stage an elaborate showdown between them... which backfired spectacularly.

Perhaps Batman's obsession lies not with justice but in merely playing the vigilante defender? The Joker and co. are simply toys with which he can release into the public and defeat at whim, earning Gotham's adoration and attention?

Discuss.

[YoungJRNY]

Not much of a comic reader, but Batman never struck me as being an effective hero at all.

His detective skills and flat out brilliant mind-set is what sets him apart from practically every peer that stands beside him, including the star powered Justice League. Not only that, but he is the best hand to hand combat fighter and holds his ground and is potentially more affective with his overall technical skills than the Karate Kid (he even taught Superman a thing or two.) Bats virtually became a man of incredible stealth and has turned into an illusion with shadow-like presence. He also is the most head-strong person and trained his body and mind to live through the most severe and deadly circumstances no normal human being can withstand at its most complex breaking point.

I didn't mean in skillset, I mean in effectiveness. Doesn't everyone break out of Arkham to terrorize and kill at will?

Arkham's full of nuts and flakes.

Clearly. A buddy of mine played the Arkham City game and I was horrified to see that Batman ends the game by gingerly and compassionately carrying the Joker's corpse to the police.... meanwhile, Talia, his supposed one true love, is an afterthought and so is her corpse. I don't read the comics so I admit I'm not openly in a position to judge accurately, but between this and the fact that Batman continues to put his enemies in the remarkably impotent Arkham stands testament to the idea that for all his brilliance, wealth, and martial prowess, this guy isn't really effective as a hero. But perhaps he suffers from Hero syndrome? The idea was spoofed somewhat in Mystery Men: Captain Amazing was so effective as a hero that he, in a calculated act of publicity, arranged for one of his archenemies to be released from the asylum in order to stage an elaborate showdown between them... which backfired spectacularly.

Perhaps Batman's obsession lies not with justice but in merely playing the vigilante defender? The Joker and co. are simply toys with which he can release into the public and defeat at whim, earning Gotham's adoration and attention?

Discuss.

The one thing that Superman and Batman could agree on 100% is Justice. They may not see eye to eye on how it could be done to GET to that point, but they are the epitome of Justice. They do not believe in murder. In Batman's case, sending them to Arkham is practically the last political step he could take in sending these villains behind bars, but preserve a life. Superman operates in the same way and his most severe punishment to the most dangerous villains in existence is called the Phantom Zone. It's a very dark and lifeless, parallel universe where time stands still. Villains are sent there without the possibility of escape. Superman's father, Jor-El, created the Phantom Zone on Krypton and Superman re-created it so only HE has the rights to release any of the PZ prisoners (sometimes, he struggles with that decision to send them there.)

Although Supes DOES use the Phantom Zone for other purpose's for beings that he can't save that lacks a cure for disease. It's very rare, but he sends them to the Phantom Zone where their illness stops since time indeed stands still. He'll simply teleport them there while he works endlessly on a serum or cure in his Fortress of Solitude. Batman doesn't have such thing, but Arkham would remain poetic Justice to Batman and deal with the consequences as they may.

[verslibre]

They do not believe in murder. In Batman's case

"But I don't have to save you, either."

[Gideon]

They do not believe in murder. In Batman's case

"But I don't have to save you, either."

Hated that part. Made his decision to spare the Joker so much more petty.

[Rip Rokken]

Hmmm... I stumbled on what I think mayyyyy be the 3rd trailer for the movie while searching for the prologue... rough video and audio, but much, much better... includes some of the origin of Bane in the lab, and Batman getting it on with Catwoman. I'm starting to get excited now.

Ignore the name of the clip - this is no 7-minute prologue, but a new 2-minute trailer.

http://www.freeonlinevideos.net/the-dar ... movie.html

Waaaaaiiiiitttttt..... I'm wondering if this is a put-on. Pretty well done if it is, but I'm now getting the impression it's been cobbled together from old Nolan footage and maybe stuff from other movies as well. LOL...

[verslibre]

New TDKR trailer on May 4, to be attached to Avengers.


New poster, sans type:

[Pelata]

They do not believe in murder. In Batman's case

"But I don't have to save you, either."

Hated that part. Made his decision to spare the Joker so much more petty.

He was still learning who he was as Batman in Batman Begins...making decisions he would not make later.

[verslibre]

[Ehwmatt]

Man I can't wait for this film.

[G.I.Jim]

:lol:

That is AWESOME!!! And this is coming from someone who hates cats! (No offense Ginger).

[Abitaman]

The first suit looks better.

Then you hate Batman...



I could see people arguing that the Arkham City Batsuit may not be perfect for film, but at least it's simple and honors a good classic look. Take the helmet away from the Nolan suit and it would look much better on Snake Eyes from G.I. Joe.

Remember that this suit is being seen in a lot of light, but the suit in the dark, where the bat operates, and you will not see all the detailed design.
Also while the gray suit looks good, in the comics they use that color gray sticks out more, it was to be very dark blue or black, but did not show well in the comics before the late 90's anyway. Nowadays his suit is dark, like it should be.

The awful TV show ruined what he was about, and everyone thinks he showed stick out.

[Abitaman]

Nolan doesn't want to give too much away. I'm pretty sure I've figured out where he's going with this third film, but I read the comics he's sourced his trilogy from years ago. I liked the full trailer. You'll like the second trailer better.

When does the 2nd trailer come out?

About the helmet: well, that's what it is, a helmet. Hence it's molded to wrap around the jaw. Like he told Lucius Fox, "I need to be able to turn my head."

I got that part - it takes away from the look, though.

Again, it's pretty clear (to me) what's up with the new suit (the one on the magazine cover) — to tell you would yield a serious spoiler.

I can imagine with his history with Bane, and obviously he's going to royally get his ass kicked in an early encounter with him. The suit is either designed to help out when he goes after Bane again, or make up for some residual weakness from his earlier injuries.

The third trailer is being shown on the Avengers.

[Abitaman]

3-D has become the biggest ripoff around, and I'm perfectly fine without it. IMAX, I can go for.

Nolan refused to film the Batman movies in 3D. He thinks it is a bad fad, and I have to agree. I know he filmes parts of the first and second in Imax, I do not know if all or parts of the new is in Imax.