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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:19 am

Tribeca 2012: Journey singer doesn't stop believin'

April 21, 2012 | 12:15pm

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NEW YORK -- Just before 1 a.m. on Friday morning, Arnel Pineda walked to the front of a lounge-y space atop a hotel in this city's Meatpacking District. For the last few hours, the deejay had been spinning a typical mix of club hits, to the general indifference of the crowd. But that was about to change.

Pineda, a diminutive man of 44 with jet-black hair and girlishly delicate features, took the mic. His eyes scrunched in concentration, he signaled quietly to the deejay, who cranked up a backing track. Pineda paused a moment, then began belting out the lyrics of Journey's rock anthem "Don't Stop Believin.' "

"Just a small town girl ... "

Jolted by his voice, the crowd stopped its chit-chat. The drinks clinking died down. Then the cheering began.

"Living in a lonely world ... "

The crowd went into a frenzy. Scores of cellphone cameras shot into the air. A woman of about 60 clambered atop a couch to get a better view, her husband looking less worried than he should have been. Then he hoisted himself up next to her.

The impromptu musical performance came at a screening after-party for the Tribeca Film Festival premiere of the documentary "Don't Stop Believin': Everyman's Journey." Ramona Diaz's film tells the story of the titular band -- the one of arena-rock radio, "Glee" covers and "Sopranos" finales, but not, it should be said, the band of Steve Perry from the early 1980s (and, briefly, the late 1990s). Diaz's movie instead tells of the current Journey, with its out-of-left-field frontman.

Even in the age of YouTube discoveries and "American Idol"-fueled fame, Pineda's tale stands out. A soft-spoken kid from a broken home in the Philippines, Pineda had been on his own since he was 13, even living for several years on the street. He eventually made a decent if not extravagant living as a musician, singing a mix of originals and covers, for a time in Hong Kong and then in Manila.

But in 2007, his life took a dramatic turn. An ocean away, Journey guitarist Neal Schon was desperate for a new lead singer, his band having auditioned and rejected countless contenders. Messing around on YouTube late one night, Schon spotted Pineda singing "Faithfully" and other Journey hits.
Stunned by how precisely Pineda mimicked the voice of Steve Perry (and, for that matter, Bon Jovi, Don Henley and other singers), Schon was enthused but wary. Could he have found his lead singer on YouTube?

As Diaz chronicles (the director has Filipino roots but first learned of the band through a music-industry friend), Schon eventually flew to Manila to meet Pineda. Then Journey flew the singer back to their native San Francisco for a longer trial. Jonathan Cain, the multiinstumentalist and longtime Journey member, was skeptical. But Pineda won the musician over with his soaring range.

The movie then follows Pineda as he embarks on a global tour with the band and attempts to adjust to life on the road. Singing for a few people in a studio or a Manila bar is one thing; keeping your composure in front of 20,000 screaming fans who expect you to sound like someone else--nicknamed "The Voice," no less--is another.

At the Tribeca after-party, Cain expressed surprise at how the last five years have gone. "I was a doubter, I'll admit it, but he made me a believer," he told 24 Frames, shaking his head and looking on as a gaggle of 20-something girls surrounded a pleased if slightly overwhelmed Pineda, asking to take photos with him.

"I've seen a lot in all my years of making music," Cain laughed. "Didn't think I'd ever see this." (Don't ask him, incidentally, about the former lead singer who left in a ball of resentment: "Perry? He sticks his head in the sand. I mean, he'll listen to the stuff from his days but he doesn't like the stuff now." Cain added. "I don't really get it. Arnel is keeping the legacy of the band alive. He's a big reason why a lot of people today know Journey.) :roll:

In what may surprise many of the thirty- and fortysomethings who grew up listening to the band's arena-rock hits with a mixture of affection and eye-rolling, Journey remains a popular act. The band still tours extensively and is in fact set to go on the road this summer with Loverboy and Pat Benatar, a kind of rock-tinged '80s nostalgia reunion. The as-yet-undistributed Journey movie, members hope, will continue keeping their profile high, and feeds the flame for a new generation that barely knows of their '80s heyday.

"Hold on to that fee-eelin' ... "

Pineda finished his rendition with the song's trademark rock-scream flourish, and the deejay went back to spinning his regular tracks. The singer handed off the mic, and dozens of people pushed to the front of the room to get a glimpse of the unlikely hero. Photos. More autographs. Pineda smiled. Then, looking happy but more than a little tired, he slipped out a side door.
Perry's good natured bonhomie & the world’s most charmin smile,knocked fans off their feet. Sportin a black tux,gigs came alive as he swished around the stage thrillin audiences w/ charisma that instantly burnt the oxygen right out of the venue.TR.com
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:23 am

I get it, Jon. Jealousy, pure and simple. :D
'Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. “I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Steve Perry (Feb 2012).'
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Postby slucero » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:30 am

of course Jon is jealous... he hasn't had a hit since Perry left...

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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:46 am

Yea I guess Cain thinks he needs to keep the digs alive on their part... :roll:
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Postby brywool » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:50 am

Yes, better to sit home and watch baseball than to have your story showed in a huge film premiere, and be all over the news because of it and touring the world.
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:58 am

brywool wrote:Yes, better to sit home and watch baseball than to have your story showed in a huge film premiere, and be all over the news because of it and touring the world.


Thought it was AP's show..? :shock: :wink:
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Postby Don » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:58 am

Where has Perry ever said he doesn't like the music of present Journey, much less ever listened to it?

It's all right to gush all over your little brown brother but no need to make shit up, bro.
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:03 am

slucero wrote:of course Jon is jealous... he hasn't had a hit since Perry left...


True. :lol:
I bet Jon was green with envy when "I Stand Alone" set the charts ablaze.

tater wrote:Yea I guess Cain thinks he needs to keep the digs alive on their part...


Jon? Digs? WTF. :shock:
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Postby RPM » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:03 am

Perry isn't out slamming Arnel or the band, Cain should keep his pie hole shut regarding Perry.
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:04 am

Why Cain would make that statement is beyond me...
Only reason I could think of ..is Cain is seeking/wanting Steve's approval
of his work??? :roll:
If Cain is seeking Steve's approval for his new works...I wonder if its not Cain who has his head stuck in the sand??? :roll:
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Another day...Another penny.. :lol:
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:07 am

Gideon wrote:
slucero wrote:of course Jon is jealous... he hasn't had a hit since Perry left...


True. :lol:
I bet Jon was green with envy when "I Stand Alone" set the charts ablaze.

tater wrote:Yea I guess Cain thinks he needs to keep the digs alive on their part...


Jon? Digs? WTF. :shock:
...Have you looked at your signature lately?


Cain didn't need to make that yes a "dig" at Steve... :wink:
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:11 am

I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:14 am

Gideon wrote:I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:


Nah my tissue box been empty for a while.. :lol:
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Postby Don » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:17 am

16 song set-list for the majority of the tour last year. Despite there being at least four dozen tunes available sans Perry's voice or contributions, at least 14 of the songs being performed each night were originally sang by Steve Perry.
Sounds like whoever puts the set-list is doing the same thing Cain accuses Perry of.

770,000 Journey album's sold in 2011. Over 650,000 of those were Perry voiced records. Hmmm...
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:17 am

tater1977 wrote:
Gideon wrote:I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:


Nah my tissue box been empty for a while.. :lol:


Best response ever. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Don » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:18 am

Gideon wrote:I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:


No, we already know that Jon used them up during the BTM filming.
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:19 am

Don wrote:16 song set-list for the majority of the tour last year. Despite there being at least four dozen tunes available sans Perry's voice or contributions, at least 14 of the songs being performed each night were originally sang by Steve Perry.
Sounds like whoever puts the set-list is doing the same thing Cain accuses Perry of.

770,000 Journey album's sold in 2011. Over 650,000 of those were Perry voiced records. Hmmm...


None of those being from Street Talk or FTLOSM, right? :lol:
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:20 am

Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:


No, we already know that Jon used them up during the BTM filming.


LOL
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:21 am

Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:


No, we already know that Jon used them up during the BTM filming.


True, over a terminally ill kid. What a pussy. :lol:
Then Perry used whatever was left during the remastering of Live in Houston. To be deprived of all talent must truly be excruciating. :lol:
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:23 am

Jon's comment..makes about as much sense as if...

Steve had made a new CD & while being interviewed...makes the same kind of comment about Cain... it makes no sense...unless your looking for approval.... :wink:
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:24 am

tater1977 wrote:Jon's comment..makes about as much sense as if...

Steve had made a new CD & while being interviewed...makes the same kind of comment about Cain... it makes no sense...unless your looking for approval.... :wink:


Or maybe he was hoping SP would have made peace with the fact that he can't sing anymore and celebrate the Journey of one who can? :lol:
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Postby Don » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:25 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:16 song set-list for the majority of the tour last year. Despite there being at least four dozen tunes available sans Perry's voice or contributions, at least 14 of the songs being performed each night were originally sang by Steve Perry.
Sounds like whoever puts the set-list is doing the same thing Cain accuses Perry of.

770,000 Journey album's sold in 2011. Over 650,000 of those were Perry voiced records. Hmmm...


None of those being from Street Talk or FTLOSM, right? :lol:
No. we are talking Journey albums. I can try and dig up the sales figures for all the solo album sales from band members last year. I got a strong feeling though, just going by Amazon's sales ranking that one person did better than all the rest combined.
I'll stick to Journey albums though since it seems to be the band's music that Cain is alluding to in his statement..
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:28 am

Don wrote:No. we are talking Journey albums.


Exactly. Those are the only albums anyone is ever talking about. :lol:
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Postby RocknRoll » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:31 am

Geez...I thought the Pineda fans used to be overly sensitive. :shock:

I'm basically assuming that Cain and Perry have mutual acquaintances in the music industry. I know I have seen at least one interview where Perry has stated he hasn't and won't listen to music by Journey after his departure. Why is this a surprise? For Cain to say he's sticking his head in the sand is just another way of expressing that Perry won't listen to anything post-Perry. Is this a dig? I've seen a lot worse. :roll:

Everyone knows there was more to this conversation than what was printed. BTW...where are Wombats interviews post 2008?
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Postby Don » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:33 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:I really hope Jon's remark isn't sending anyone scrambling for a box of tissues. :lol:


No, we already know that Jon used them up during the BTM filming.


True, over a terminally ill kid. What a pussy. :lol:
Then Perry used whatever was left during the remastering of Live in Houston. To be deprived of all talent must truly be excruciating. :lol:


Deprived of what talent, Sony still sells Journey CDs don't they? As a matter of fact they sold 650,000 of them were sold last year.
Journey is still in the top ten as far as artists plays per year on radio. Over ten million DVDs sold last year year feature music released by Journey pre-1988.
Looks like that particular gift of music is still being shared with the whole world be it in people's cars, home or whatever.



As for Jon being a pussy, you were the one who brought out the tissue box, weren't you?
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Postby tater1977 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:37 am

Gideon wrote:
tater1977 wrote:Jon's comment..makes about as much sense as if...

Steve had made a new CD & while being interviewed...makes the same kind of comment about Cain... it makes no sense...unless your looking for approval.... :wink:


Or maybe he was hoping SP would have made peace with the fact that he can't sing anymore and celebrate the Journey of one who can? :lol:


Who's said SP hasn't made peace with it? I don't know one way or the other & no one else does either except himself...& just maybe SP doesn't like that kind of music...lol just like us all.....we have different music tastes...
The question still remains...why did Cain make the dig? :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:38 am

RocknRoll wrote:Geez...I thought the Pineda fans used to be overly sensitive. :shock:

I'm basically assuming that Cain and Perry have mutual acquaintances in the music industry. I know I have seen at least one interview where Perry has stated he hasn't and won't listen to music by Journey after his departure. Why is this a surprise? For Cain to say he's sticking his head in the sand is just another way of expressing that Perry won't listen to anything post-Perry. Is this a dig? I've seen a lot worse. :roll:

Everyone knows there was more to this conversation than what was printed. BTW...where are Wombats interviews post 2008?


Alluding to context are you? ;)
I agree with your post. Steve Perry is in Ostrich mode and I don't see what Jon said as a slam at all. :D
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Postby Don » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:38 am

Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:No. we are talking Journey albums.


Exactly. Those are the only albums anyone is ever talking about. :lol:


Of course. That's why Cain's statement seems even more bizarre. Why wold Jon need validation from Perry for what the band is doing today? Certain segments of the fans have asked for that but for a performer to bring that up is lame. Your fans are the one who validate you, not former band members.
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Postby Gideon » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:39 am

Don wrote:Deprived of what talent,


The ability to sound like someone other than Tom Waits with strep throat. :lol:

Don wrote:Sony still sells Journey CDs don't they? As a matter of fact they sold 650,000 of them were sold last year.


Correct, Sony still sells Journey CDs, not Perry. :lol:

Don wrote:Journey is still in the top ten as far as artists plays per year on radio. Over ten million DVDs sold last year year feature music released by Journey pre-1988.
Looks like that particular gift of music is still being shared with the whole world be it in people's cars, home or whatever.


No arguments here.

Don wrote:As for Jon being a pussy, you were the one who brought out the tissue box, weren't you?


Hey, it's not my fault that a comparison with Jon ends up with Perry drowning in his own estrogen. :lol:
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Postby RocknRoll » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:41 am

Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:No. we are talking Journey albums.


Exactly. Those are the only albums anyone is ever talking about. :lol:


Of course. That's why Cain's statement seems even more bizarre. Why wold Jon need validation from Perry for what the band is doing today? Certain segments of the fans have asked for that but for a performer to bring that up is lame. Your fans are the one who validate you, not former band members.


Did I miss something here? I don't see Jon's statement as seeking validation, just stating what he's heard a bit graphically.
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