North Korea talking shit again

[Don]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21713340

China has appealed for calm on the Korean peninsula, hours after North Korea said it had scrapped all peace pacts with the South and threatened pre-emptive nuclear strikes.

China, the North's only major ally, said all sides should continue to talk and avoid "further escalation".

Pyongyang has reacted angrily to another round of sanctions imposed by the UN over its recent nuclear test.

The sanctions restrict luxury goods imports and banking activities.

Beijing provides fuel, food and diplomatic cover to Pyongyang.

It has repeatedly voted in favour of UN sanctions imposed over the nuclear programme, but enforcement of the measures in China is patchy.

Hua Chunying of China's foreign ministry told a news conference on Friday: "China and North Korea have normal country relations. At the same time, we also oppose North Korea's conducting of nuclear tests.

"China calls on the relevant parties to be calm and exercise restraint and avoid taking any further action that would cause any further escalations."

Chinese and US officials drafted the UN resolution passed on Thursday.

It contains similar measures to earlier resolutions, but the US said it had significantly strengthened the enforcement mechanisms.

In response, the North Korean regime published a message on the official KCNA news agency saying it had cancelled all non-aggression pacts with the South.

The two Koreas have signed a range of agreements over the years, including a 1991 pact on resolving disputes and avoiding military clashes.

However, analysts say the deals have had little practical effect.

The KCNA report detailed other measures including:

cutting off the North-South hotline, saying there was "nothing to talk to the puppet group of traitors about"
closing the main Panmunjom border crossing inside the Demilitarized Zone that separates the two countries
pulling out of the armistice that ended the Korean War.

The North also claimed it had a right to launch a pre-emptive nuclear strike against its enemies.

The threat drew an angry response from the South's defence ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok, who said that the North would become "extinct from the Earth by the will of mankind" if it took such an action.

The US state department said such "extreme rhetoric" was not unusual, but said the US was well protected.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Seoul says it appears the North is trying to build a sense of crisis domestically, with a large rally staged in Pyongyang on Friday and reports of camouflage netting on public transport.

North Korea has breached agreements before and withdrawing from them does not necessarily mean war, our correspondent says, but it does signal a more unpredictable and unstable situation.

Shutting down the hotline will leave both more exposed to misunderstandings, she adds.

[tater1977]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

[Don]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

We don't need to spend any money for North Korea. We've got an arsenal of nukes made just for people like him. We will NEVER do a ground assault on that country. The catastrophe that would ultimately spill over into South Korea would be horrendous. It will have to be one quick strike.

[tater1977]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

We don't need to spend any money for North Korea. We've got an arsenal of nukes made just for people like him. We will NEVER do a ground assault on that country. The catastrophe that would ultimately spill over into South Korea would be horrendous. It will have to be one quick strike.

That would be even better...

[Gideon]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

NK's delusions notwithstanding, our military supremacy over that piss ant nation is guaranteed even with budget cuts.

[ebake02]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

NK's delusions notwithstanding, our military supremacy over that piss ant nation is guaranteed even with budget cuts.

One carrier strike group alone could wipe away their shitty tin can military.

[steveo777]

Let them act so we can take them out, ie., put their money where their mouths are, then find out they fucked up. I think Kim is just acting like bratty little step kid seeking attention.

[tater1977]

Only picture I can get...is if they launched a nuke this way..they would probably blow themselves up
first on the launch ..then no worries...

[steveo777]

May sound harsh, but since they are an isolationist society and we don't know their people.....then all we can judge is the country and it's leader. Let em fuck up and we can turn it into rubble or glass. Problem solved. Bush would have already done the deed. They do possess a WMD! LOL

[Memorex]

May sound harsh, but since they are an isolationist society and we don't know their people.....then all we can judge is the country and it's leader. Let em fuck up and we can turn it into rubble or glass. Problem solved. Bush would have already done the deed. They do possess a WMD! LOL

They became nuclear under Bush. We seem content on letting these countries move forward. I blame Russia and China who keep providing cover for these countries.

[Rick]

How do you nuke North Korea without it hurting South Korea? I guess they did it when they hit Hiroshima. It's closer I think to South Korea than Pyongyang is.

[Don]

How do you nuke North Korea without it hurting South Korea? I guess they did it when they hit Hiroshima. It's closer I think to South Korea than Pyongyang is.

You would have to use tactical nukes, you can't use the big ones. If we just started blowing everything up and killing hundreds of thousands of North Koreans who are just struggling to survive everyday it wouldn't be right. It's the same problem with Iran. Lots of Iranians love Americans, you can't just call them collateral damage if you go after their politicians.

[Rick]

How do you nuke North Korea without it hurting South Korea? I guess they did it when they hit Hiroshima. It's closer I think to South Korea than Pyongyang is.

You would have to use tactical nukes, you can't use the big ones. If we just started blowing everything up and killing hundreds of thousands of North Koreans who are just struggling to survive everyday it wouldn't be right. It's the same problem with Iran. Lots of Iranians love Americans, you can't just call them collateral damage if you go after their politicians.

Was the Hiroshima bomb a tactical nuke? I guess I need to do some readin.

[ebake02]

May sound harsh, but since they are an isolationist society and we don't know their people.....then all we can judge is the country and it's leader. Let em fuck up and we can turn it into rubble or glass. Problem solved. Bush would have already done the deed. They do possess a WMD! LOL

They became nuclear under Bush. We seem content on letting these countries move forward. I blame Russia and China who keep providing cover for these countries.

China is the only reason that regime hasn't completely collapsed yet.

[steveo777]

May sound harsh, but since they are an isolationist society and we don't know their people.....then all we can judge is the country and it's leader. Let em fuck up and we can turn it into rubble or glass. Problem solved. Bush would have already done the deed. They do possess a WMD! LOL

They became nuclear under Bush. We seem content on letting these countries move forward. I blame Russia and China who keep providing cover for these countries.

China is the only reason that regime hasn't completely collapsed yet.

The only reason Walmart hasn't either.

[ebake02]

May sound harsh, but since they are an isolationist society and we don't know their people.....then all we can judge is the country and it's leader. Let em fuck up and we can turn it into rubble or glass. Problem solved. Bush would have already done the deed. They do possess a WMD! LOL

They became nuclear under Bush. We seem content on letting these countries move forward. I blame Russia and China who keep providing cover for these countries.

China is the only reason that regime hasn't completely collapsed yet.

The only reason Walmart hasn't either.

[Archetype]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

We don't need to spend any money for North Korea. We've got an arsenal of nukes made just for people like him. We will NEVER do a ground assault on that country. The catastrophe that would ultimately spill over into South Korea would be horrendous. It will have to be one quick strike.

I think we'd fail at a land invasion against North Korea. They have one of the largest standing armies in the world and they're very fanatical.

To compensate for obsolescence, the North deploys boots on the ground in great numbers. Jane's estimates that its standing army numbers just over 1 million personnel, with reserves estimated at more than 7 million.

[slucero]

the only solution is a covert, depose the government move... bombing the country into submission would leave the U.S. with tens of millions of starving refugees, who the liberals would immediately want to bring to the the good ol' USA..

[steveo777]

the only solution is a covert, depose the government move... bombing the country into submission would leave the U.S. with tens of millions of starving refugees, who the liberals would immediately want to bring to the the good ol' USA..

Don't get me started on this shit again! Obama just used the sequester as a motive to furlough 60,000 border patrol agents.

http://www.federaltimes.com/article/201 ... y=nav|head

Assinine that he would use this as an excuse to compromise national security. Wonder what else is in his bag of tricks. Doesn't seem anyone like Kim Jong Un is of much interest to him at present.

[Memorex]

Great time to cut the budget for our military...

We don't need to spend any money for North Korea. We've got an arsenal of nukes made just for people like him. We will NEVER do a ground assault on that country. The catastrophe that would ultimately spill over into South Korea would be horrendous. It will have to be one quick strike.

I think we'd fail at a land invasion against North Korea. They have one of the largest standing armies in the world and they're very fanatical.

To compensate for obsolescence, the North deploys boots on the ground in great numbers. Jane's estimates that its standing army numbers just over 1 million personnel, with reserves estimated at more than 7 million.

You have to remember we like to reduce the size of standing armies from the air. Bomb, bomb, bomb, smoke clears, count, bomb, bomb, bomb...

[JRNYMAN]

That's what happens when a country is run by a dictator who completely isolates it from the rest of the world, takes control of all media and feeds its population total and utter bullshit about the rest of the world being evil and your country being supreme and flawless and blah, blah, blah.... Then the spawn of said dictator assumes control having no clue that everything he's been taught his whole life has been skewed by a tiny madman with a SERIOUS inferiority complex.
Yeah, NK's leadership and its military needs to be erased so that the population can see beyond the lies they have been told for decades.

I recently watched 2 different docu's on Netflix both of which were expose's on just how oppressed the country's population are. The cruelty and fear they live under is appalling and inhumane. It's very much like the regime of Saddam Hussein! People often just disappear from their everyday lives for the smallest infraction never to be heard from again. If they aren't tortured and killed right away, they are placed in labor camps where the conditions are horrific at best. Then, once they are no longer able to produce at the pace they are expected to, they are killed. These people are so incredibly afraid of what the "Supreme Leader" (which is the mandatory way he must be named when spoken about... ) might do to them without reason or cause that they literally put him before God in their lives and their homes. Every home must have a photo of the dictator hanging in their house and the people are required to give thanks to him twice a day for all that they have and the beautiful life they have. I'm not making this shit up folks! It's FAR, FAR worse than what little the world has been able to learn about life in NK. Both docu's brought me to tears more than once as I watched and learned what daily life is like for the average person there. It's just so, so sad and even sadder that nothing can be done to exterminate these cruel sadists!

[steveo777]

That's what happens when a country is run by a dictator who completely isolates it from the rest of the world, takes control of all media and feeds its population total and utter bullshit about the rest of the world being evil and your country being supreme and flawless and blah, blah, blah.... Then the spawn of said dictator assumes control having no clue that everything he's been taught his whole life has been skewed by a tiny madman with a SERIOUS inferiority complex.
Yeah, NK's leadership and its military needs to be erased so that the population can see beyond the lies they have been told for decades.

I recently watched 2 different docu's on Netflix both of which were expose's on just how oppressed the country's population are. The cruelty and fear they live under is appalling and inhumane. It's very much like the regime of Saddam Hussein! People often just disappear from their everyday lives for the smallest infraction never to be heard from again. If they aren't tortured and killed right away, they are placed in labor camps where the conditions are horrific at best. Then, once they are no longer able to produce at the pace they are expected to, they are killed. These people are so incredibly afraid of what the "Supreme Leader" (which is the mandatory way he must be named when spoken about... ) might do to them without reason or cause that they literally put him before God in their lives and their homes. Every home must have a photo of the dictator hanging in their house and the people are required to give thanks to him twice a day for all that they have and the beautiful life they have. I'm not making this shit up folks! It's FAR, FAR worse than what little the world has been able to learn about life in NK. Both docu's brought me to tears more than once as I watched and learned what daily life is like for the average person there. It's just so, so sad and even sadder that nothing can be done to exterminate these cruel sadists!

Oh, something can be done. It needs to be done, but the question is who will carry out what is necessary? The other problem is that people who are forged to live the way these people have lived, once set free, might become an even bigger danger to themselves, others and the rest of the world. Millions of people reacting, having learned that they have been fed decades of lies and deceptions, just can't end well. The fallout from an overthrow would be huge in this case.

[texafana]

The ONLY reason they put on this show of rhetoric is to portray a show of strength to their own people and attempt to bully and get their way with other countries. There is simply no doubt....NK is going to get their wish someday and be involved in a real war and they are going to be annihilated.

[The Sushi Hunter]

If N. Korea is going to do anything, they would do it towards US military forces in the immediate region. I seriously doubt they would fire off anything towards the continental United States. And since the US and S. Korea are currently in the same region participating in Team Spirit, N. Korea may do something stupid. If N. Korea did, I think US objective would be to take that shitbag out along with much of his military. It wouldn't be a full invasion type of situation like we saw in Iraq. I think if Kim fucked up and launched weaponry, only he and his military would be dealt with accordingly. I think we'd fuck him up and then stand back and see how the N. Korean civilians react to it.

[Behshad]

[Liam]

[Boomchild]

Well. Obama said he wants to reduce our nuclear arsenal, looks like this would be a way to get rid of some.

[Kid Dynamite]

Stop the BS and start bombing each other

[steveo777]

Stop the BS and start bombing each other

Exactly - use the toy or go put the fucking thing back in it's box and shut up!

[The Sushi Hunter]

Hahaha, funny stuff in the news this morning. Rodman claims he's going to be vacationing with Kim in August. I'd personally love to paint Carmen Electra's name on the side of that GBU-24 (MK 84) LGB configuration that both Rodman and Kim could be sharing.