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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:14 pm

Just got back from seeing the midnight showing.

What a great movie. 2+ hours that seemed like half that time. Great story, great characters topped off with a great epitaph on a tombstone. I don't know anything about Guardians of the Galaxy, I just hope it does well in continuing Marvel's storyline til the next big blockbuster.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby No Surprize » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:10 pm

Cool. I'm looking forward to it when it comes out on dvd.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby jaxmanjoe » Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:05 am

Most anticipated movie of the spring/summer for me, I think. Couldn't see it this weekend but definitely on tap for next weekend. Only hearing rave reviews from fans of the Marvel movies so far...
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby TageRyche » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:22 am

It was so damn awesome.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:07 pm

I saw CA:TWS on Saturday night.

KILLER movie. The Russos direct action better than Whedon. I liked this movie better than Avengers, too, because it's not just a "big fun battle movie." The cast is great and Samuel J. got more to do and Redford was awesome.

This movie blew Thor: The Dark World away. Blew. It. Away. It also blew away Iron Man 2 & 3, easily.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby No Surprize » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:33 pm

verslibre wrote:I saw CA:TWS on Saturday night.

KILLER movie. The Russos direct action better than Whedon. I liked this movie better than Avengers, too, because it's not just a "big fun battle movie." The cast is great and Samuel J. got more to do and Redford was awesome.

This movie blew Thor: The Dark World away. Blew. It. Away. It also blew away Iron Man 2 & 3, easily.



So, when you say "it's not just a big fun battle movie", are you actually saying Steve Rogers is having anxiety attacks and night sweats related to Tony Starks PMS in IM3? :P If it blew The Dark World away then that's saying something. In my book, Thor the dark world was the best of the bunch so far. By the way, Watched Superman again on HBO (got a free preview this past weekend). I love it when chicks are bad ass's.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:40 pm

Checking it out this weekend. It was filmed here in Cleveland, with a week's worth of filming taking place literally right outside my office. I watched several cars explode and get shot up from my office window. Pretty cool stuff.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:12 am

No Surprize wrote:So, when you say "it's not just a big fun battle movie", are you actually saying Steve Rogers is having anxiety attacks and night sweats related to Tony Starks PMS in IM3? :P


No, Cap doesn't hock his shield to Rick Harrison at Pawn Stars while whining "I'm fiiii-nished!" :lol:

No Surprize wrote:If it blew The Dark World away then that's saying something. In my book, Thor the dark world was the best of the bunch so far. By the way, Watched Superman again on HBO (got a free preview this past weekend). I love it when chicks are bad ass's.


MoS is a great film. Thor: TDW is a fun flick but it suffered from too many cuts. I hope the DVD restores a lot of footage.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:10 am

verslibre wrote:I saw CA:TWS on Saturday night.

KILLER movie. The Russos direct action better than Whedon. I liked this movie better than Avengers, too, because it's not just a "big fun battle movie." The cast is great and Samuel J. got more to do and Redford was awesome.

This movie blew Thor: The Dark World away. Blew. It. Away. It also blew away Iron Man 2 & 3, easily.


Watched Thor:TDW the other weekend finally with my girl (who likes Marvel movies) and even she thought it was a downright mess. That shit was all over the place and I personally kept looking at my watch begging for it to end. I swore if Kat Dennings made yet another awkward, pointless joke, I was going to take the disc out, carve it up and throw it into the trash.

Thankfully, by that time, Loki (who is AWESOME) was on the screen so he saved that moment from happening. Unfortunately, Loki's role, though important, was small. Thor's a downright idiot, too. That movie in all intents and purpose's, SUCKED.

After being sick of Marvel, I will say, however, that TWS is the real deal and certainly has a different concept to it as far as style and tone is concerned. The action sequences look BADASS. Personally, I'm highly looking forward to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 more and will wait for Cap:TWS on Blu-Ray but I've heard nothing but high praise for TWS and I certainly believe it.

MoS is a great film. Thor: TDW is a fun flick but it suffered from too many cuts. I hope the DVD restores a lot of footage.


As "divisive" as MoS was, it did a KILLING with its Blu-Ray sales, is the 3rd highest grossing units sold in 2013 behind only Despicable Me 2 and The Hobbit: AUJ. Ranks #1 in superhero movies in its respective genre, blowing away Iron Man 3 and The Wolverine by a large margin. Good thing TWS lives up to its expectations because Thor: TDW, Iron Man 2/3 were snoozefests.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:36 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:Watched Thor:TDW the other weekend finally with my girl (who likes Marvel movies) and even she thought it was a downright mess. That shit was all over the place and I personally kept looking at my watch begging for it to end. I swore if Kat Dennings made yet another awkward, pointless joke, I was going to take the disc out, carve it up and throw it into the trash.


They didn't give Kat anything to do this time. She was supposed to be some sort of comic relief — misfire!

YoungJRNY wrote:Thankfully, by that time, Loki (who is AWESOME) was on the screen so he saved that moment from happening. Unfortunately, Loki's role, though important, was small. Thor's a downright idiot, too. That movie in all intents and purpose's, SUCKED.


Malekith wasn't developed enough beyond having a beef with the Asgardians, and the climactic battle looked better on the page than onscreen. The Dark Elves ran around like dogs chasing cats. The Jane-Thor-Sif love triangle that was played up in the trailer and pre-release hype was nonexistent.

Kurse was awesome, though. He's easily the single best thing about the entire film, and he pretty much kicked Thor's ass, too. He should have been in the final battle, but the way they offed him was an effective one. The ONLY way to get rid of him, that is.

YoungJRNY wrote:After being sick of Marvel, I will say, however, that TWS is the real deal and certainly has a different concept to it as far as style and tone is concerned. The action sequences look BADASS. Personally, I'm highly looking forward to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 more and will wait for Cap:TWS on Blu-Ray but I've heard nothing but high praise for TWS and I certainly believe it.


Do not wait, dude. Go see TWS in the theater. This movie has the intensity Thor 2 lacks. The direction and writing are so much better, you'll feel sorry for Hemsworth and send him a card (LOL). There is NO buffoonery like in Thor 2 and especially IM3. No dumb jokes. It's a pretty serious film. The fight choreography is off the hook. It's to ground battles what Man Of Steel is to sky battles. It's got ROBERT REDFORD!

YoungJRNY wrote:As "divisive" as MoS was, it did a KILLING with its Blu-Ray sales, is the 3rd highest grossing units sold in 2013 behind only Despicable Me 2 and The Hobbit: AUJ. Ranks #1 in superhero movies in its respective genre, blowing away Iron Man 3 and The Wolverine by a large margin. Good thing TWS lives up to its expectations because Thor: TDW, Iron Man 2/3 were snoozefests.


The Wolverine came and went. I heard a lot of people were disappointed with that film, but it still made money because they spent a lot less (IIRC) to make it than XMO: Wolverine.

OTOH, I have heard and read very little negative feedback on TWS and no bashing whatsoever. That's pretty astonishing. Notice that the third movie is slated to open against MoS2, but Thor 3 isn't even written yet (or is it?).

I think having the two movies open against each other is sofuckingstoopid. First of all, a trailer that shows Superman and Batman in the same frame is going to suction in ticket money like a black hole in outer space. Cap 3 WILL make money that weekend, probably a lot because it will come after Avengers: Age of Ultron, but MoS2 will gross more the first weekend and overall, unless it turns out to be a really bad movie.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:12 am

They didn't give Kat anything to do this time. She was supposed to be some sort of comic relief — misfire!


Kat Dennings role in Thor:TDW did the impossible. Instead of glaring endlessly and disturbingly focusing on her huge rack, the usual, all I wanted to do was strangle her. Literally, wanted to choke her out. With a rack like that, I never thought that would be possible. Mission accomplished, Marvel.



Kurse was awesome, though. He's easily the single best thing about the entire film, and he pretty much kicked Thor's ass, too. He should have been in the final battle, but the way they offed him was an effective one. The ONLY way to get rid of him, that is.


Sadly, I don't remember this. I was too busy either drooling in my sleep or envisioning strangling Kat Dennings the entire time. Totally forgettable. Everything about Thor:TDW was forgettable. Actually hated it. Atleast I got through the CA: First Avenger, Thor and Im2. But Thor:TDW was painfully boring. Sounds good when you write it, though. 8) Christ, Kat Dennings has a huge rack :lol:

Do not wait, dude. Go see TWS in the theater. This movie has the intensity Thor 2 lacks. The direction and writing are so much better, you'll feel sorry for Hemsworth and send him a card (LOL). There is NO buffoonery like in Thor 2 and especially IM3. No dumb jokes. It's a pretty serious film. The fight choreography is off the hook. It's to ground battles what Man Of Steel is to sky battles. It's got ROBERT REDFORD!


Oh, trust me, I believe it. As soon as I saw footage and the trailers, I instantly propped up and immediately had a sense of things sticking out to me in what was missing in other Marvel films. I got the sense that this is the exact type of movie I look for in superhero films. Unfortunately, I have to save up a bit on money, I'm picking TASM2 for my theater experience. I know TWS is the real deal, but for me personally, HIGHLY looking forward to TASM2. It looks AMAZEBALLS!

Love the tone, color and concept of world building they got going on in this franchise. The Electro-battle looks to take it up a notch and the first hand visual of swinging with Spidey reminds me of that Go-Cam Supes vid a week or so ago. Love the entire look of TASM2 and the entire direction is what I personally connect to to get me to spend $20. But make no mistake, TWS is going to be BA on Blu-Ray. 8)


but Thor 3 isn't even written yet (or is it?).


After Thor: TDW, who gives a shit? Honestly, I can give 2 shits about Thor.

First of all, a trailer that shows Superman and Batman in the same frame is going to suction in ticket money like a black hole in outer space. Cap 3 WILL make money that weekend, probably a lot because it will come after


Superman/Batman is iconic and that day in 2016 will be industry changing. Historic. The two greatest superhero's to ever exist and be created. The comic-book industry will shift on another seismic-related tremor that day and worlds will realign, that's how big this goddamn movie with Superman/Batman is going to be, with the inclusion of Wondy of course bringing it over the edge in what will probably be excitement turret syndrome with fanboys all around the world.

I'm sure Cap 3 is going to be great and it will do big at the BO in its own right, but still, Cap is going to get suffocated and BURIED. Marvel can put hundreds of characters on screen together and nothing will compare to a Supes/Bats staredown. It's literally THEE dream match. Supes/Bats, in one film, will close the gap and accomplish what Marvel took multiple films and years to do, that's how big this could be. One will probably move by 2016, but as of now, looks like WB is not budging.

We haven't even seen the suit reveals yet and it's coming soon...very soon. Affleck and Gadot have joined Cavill in Detroit today and principle shooting will start May 19th, so expect the suit reveal soon. It hasn't hit people yet, but the moment Supes/Bats is standing next to each other, it will be a surreal fucking, "LETS DO THIS" feeling, followed by numerous faintings.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby RedWingFan » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:38 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:As "divisive" as MoS was, it did a KILLING with its Blu-Ray sales, is the 3rd highest grossing units sold in 2013 behind only Despicable Me 2 and The Hobbit: AUJ. Ranks #1 in superhero movies in its respective genre, blowing away Iron Man 3 and The Wolverine by a large margin. Good thing TWS lives up to its expectations because Thor: TDW, Iron Man 2/3 were snoozefests.

As usual you're in the vast minority according to Rotten Tomatoes.

---------------------Critics----------Audience
Iron Man-----------93%---------------91%
Incredible Hulk---67%---------------72%
Iron Man 2---------73%---------------73%
Thor----------------77%---------------76%
Captain America--79%--------------73%
The Avengers------92%--------------91%
Iron Man 3---------78%---------------79%
Thor 2: TDW-------65%--------------80%
Cap- TWS-----------89%--------------95%

Man of Steel-------56%---------------76%

I watched MOS again after recording it on the dvr. The fight scenes especially in the ihop were horribly done. Then that fool running into the tornado to save the mutt after telling Clark maybe he should let all his classmates drown in the bus just to protect his identity. lol.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:02 pm

Ohno, not Rotten Tomatoes. Can't take that place serious when the executive of Rotten Tomatoes laughed out loud at her own critics when they panned Man of Steel for not being a Christopher Reeve Superman movie.


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The tomato-meter blows, too and is inconsistent in how there reviews factor into overall ratings. Critics scored Man of Steel in the 7/10 range, good overall ratings, but labeled a rotten tomato-meter because of Zack Snyder's polarinzing style (which I love. It's always a good thing when someone doesn't follow the crowd and like mediocre, wise-cracking superhero movies like everybody else :lol: )

If you want to talk majority/minority in what fans really think, not just the vocal crowds or the critics who were called out by their own boss, a site like IMDb is a more accurate assessment of how an audience liked a movie, and according to that site, MoS was voted #1:

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Another telling fact is how Blu-Ray/DVD units sell and MoS crushed its comic book competitors and ranked the #3 most sold units only behind Despicable Me 2 and The Hobbit: AUJ. Pretty damn good for a controversial and divisive reboot of Superman.

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Without a sequel boost, without an Avengers boost, without an Robert Downey JR boost, without critical success, with divisive reviews and with coming off of horseshit in 2006 SR, Man of Steel, as panned as it was and in a now Marvel/Batman world, still outsold Thor & Cap on their own with their boosts.

Captain America is going to get buried to all hell in 2016 when going up against an industrial earthquake that will be known as Superman/Batman (or whatever the hell it's going to be called.) What took Marvel multiple movies and years to accomplish and be proud of, WB/DC will close that wide gap with one single movie.

I watched MOS again after recording it on the dvr. The fight scenes especially in the ihop were horribly done. Then that fool running into the tornado to save the mutt after telling Clark maybe he should let all his classmates drown in the bus just to protect his identity. lol.


Well, good to see you watched a movie you thought sucked again :lol: You won't catch me watching that piece of shit Thor:TDW ever again. Reminds me of that dude "MoS still sucks after watching it 4 times and another twice on Blu-ray!!" lol.

Man of Steel wasn't meant to be the perfectly choreographed fight scenes or take the easy way out, hence, the hiring of Zack Snyder. It was meant to be controversial and by the look of things, it did its job. Have another wise-crack, Marvel fans. More power to yah! :lol:

Sorry, TWS fans, won't derail again. 8) Can't wait til what everyone thinks of TASM2 as well.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:18 pm

Oh, and it looks like Captain America: TWS, with all of its guts and glory, took a backseat to RIO2, which shows the power of animation films (sound familiar?)

Rio 2 took the top spot on Friday with $12 million. That's an improvement over the first Rio, which earned $10.3 million on opening day back in 2011. For the weekend, Rio 2 will take the top spot with at least $45 million. Captain America wasn't far behind with $11.9 million. That's a steep 68 percent drop from last Friday


Man of Steel had even crazier summer competition, going up against Monster University, Despicable Me 2 (which happened to be #1 in unit sells on Blu-Ray/DVD) and America's new sweetheart with WWZ and zombies starring Brad Pitt. Don't underestimate the power of competition. Even with critics panning MoS, 50/50 reviews and a huge second week drop, it still almost managed $700 mil for a Superman reboot not starring Chris Reeve.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:02 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Man of Steel had even crazier summer competition, going up against Monster University, Despicable Me 2 (which happened to be #1 in unit sells on Blu-Ray/DVD) and America's new sweetheart with WWZ and zombies starring Brad Pitt. Don't underestimate the power of competition. Even with critics panning MoS, 50/50 reviews and a huge second week drop, it still almost managed $700 mil for a Superman reboot not starring Chris Reeve.


No arguing that. MoS was bookended by two, nay, three other potential blockbusters and still came out swinging.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby RedWingFan » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:04 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Ohno, not Rotten Tomatoes. Can't take that place serious when the executive of Rotten Tomatoes laughed out loud at her own critics when they panned Man of Steel for not being a Christopher Reeve Superman movie.

So the fact that she was surprised that the movie was panned negates the fact that it indeed in fact was panned? I'm sure their only beef with the film was Reeve's absence! Funny.
And they're not "her" critics that work exclusively for her, they're critics from media all across the country.
YoungJRNY wrote:If you want to talk majority/minority in what fans really think, not just the vocal crowds or the critics who were called out by their own boss, a site like IMDb is a more accurate assessment of how an audience liked a movie, and according to that site, MoS was voted #1:
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Wait. So a site created for posting and averaging professional movie critics and general audience and averaging them isn't an accurate indicator of how well a movie is received by the public but an IMDB site that states, "These rankings are not based on critical assessments or box office performance but the actual pageviews by more than 160 million unique monthly users to IMDB.com" is? Is that your statement? :lol: Seriously The Amazing Spiderman 2 has a ranking of 8.1 on IMDB and nobody's seen the damned thing. :lol:
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:06 pm

IMDb was always a more accurate site on what fans and audiences prefer. As it states, its not due to critical assessments. Another indicator is sells and MOS packed a huge punch in video.

Looks like Cap lucked out from a lackluster BO weekend for moviegoers and held off Rio2 by just an inch. Will be interesting to see if the audience BO spikes for next weekend since numbers were down.

As for Spidey, he's tracking big. Can't wait for that.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:34 am

I loved this movie! Much better IMHO than the 1st. I would put it right up there with the Avengers and there were some cool twists. I can't WAIT for the 2nd Spider Man but I'm afraid they're going to screw that up with too many villains. Guess we'll see soon enough. The next few years are going to be amazing for superhero fans. TONS of new promising movies coming out! :D
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:55 am

YoungJRNY wrote:IMDb was always a more accurate site on what fans and audiences prefer. As it states, its not due to critical assessments. Another indicator is sells and MOS packed a huge punch in video.

Looks like Cap lucked out from a lackluster BO weekend for moviegoers and held off Rio2 by just an inch. Will be interesting to see if the audience BO spikes for next weekend since numbers were down.

As for Spidey, he's tracking big. Can't wait for that.


IMDB is THE go-to site for movie feedback and stats.

I can't get too excited about movie Spidey V 2.0. I'll still see this movie but maybe as a matinee. Definitely not throwing $14 into it.

EDIT: not getting wood over GOTG, either.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby RedWingFan » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:26 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:I loved this movie! Much better IMHO than the 1st. I would put it right up there with the Avengers and there were some cool twists. I can't WAIT for the 2nd Spider Man but I'm afraid they're going to screw that up with too many villains. Guess we'll see soon enough. The next few years are going to be amazing for superhero fans. TONS of new promising movies coming out! :D

Yeah, I think ASM2 will suffer from too many new characters introduced in a film. Even though Rhino is only supposed to be in it for 5-10 minutes. It was a big fault of SM3 too, I hate Sony Pictures for forcing Raimi to include Venom in that film and ultimately killing his series of films. I still think my favorite superhero movie was SM2, they focused and nailed Doc Ock, and Spidey sacrificing his own happiness to live with his responsibilities. (When he lowered MJ to go back with her fiance, took a last look and went web-slinging into the night) So true to the comics.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby No Surprize » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:01 am

I'm beginning to think YJ likes nothing but Batman & Superman. A superhero movie doesn't need a perfect fucking plot, sub-plot, theme, or story line. What it needs is ass-kicking & name-taking. Thor TDW had every character involved & shown in one way or another that had to do with Asgard. Did Batman? Fuck no? Superman? No, and that bitch who was cast as Lois Lane took that movie down a notch for me, although I throughly enjoyed it as I did The Dark Knight. I take them for mindless entertainment that they are and the joy I took from reading comics as a kid. You can only do so much with any movie with the budget your given. The worst one though was Iron Man 3. I will never watch that again unless someones pointing a gun at me.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:32 am

The Dark Knight was mindless entertainment? Lay off the ganja, dude. At least while the movie's playin'! :lol:

Not sure what you meant about other characters not doing some ass-kicking in Nolan's trilogy when even Gordon gets his hands dirty. Selina Kyle did plenty, too. Remember, it wasn't a shared universe like the MCU.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:44 am

No Surprize wrote:I'm beginning to think YJ likes nothing but Batman & Superman.


If I only love Supes and Bats (I'm a diehard Supes, I admit that) then I would be Superman Return's biggest fan and God knows I've ripped the shit out of that movie and went back for its intestines every chance I could get, turn around, grab the nearest baseball bat and beat the shit out of it even more.

Just because I don't wank my wanker for ALL things MARVEL has ever put out and have that Christening attitude of "Marvel-can-do-no-wrong" shtick that most fanboys own, doesn't mean I don't enjoy them.

You must have missed my posts of absolutely loving the new Amazing Spider-Man and how I'm highly anticipating TASM2 (obviously I'm not a crowd follower, most fans hated TASM), so much, that I'm willing to wait for Winter Soldier (which I have said numerous times that I KNOW HOW AWESOME IT IS) on Blu-Ray when it comes out.

I loved the original Iron Man and thought The Wolverine had some of the best superhero scenes within the last few years.

I was also sick and tired of the non-stop X-series that has been going on since 2000, but again, admitted that the trailer to Days of Future's Past is pulling me back in and how I'm excited for that.

Green Lantern was big pile of steaming hot diarrhea and I'm a DC guy.

I go crazy for Man of Steel because it was the Superman movie I've been dying for my entire life after years of doing nothing but squat over Superman Return's chest. It's actually nice to be on the other side and every chance I get, I will be in Man of Steel's corner.

A superhero movie doesn't need a perfect fucking plot, sub-plot, theme, or story line. What it needs is ass-kicking & name-taking.


I'm with you, dude, which is EXACTLY why I will always defend Man of Steel. Sure Man of Steel had a ton of action (crazy coming from a character who first appeared in ACTION COMICS, I know) but I think it had a lot of good heartfelt moments and crazy plot details that people fail to see the meaning of.

Thor:TDW is to me what Iron Man 3 was to you. Nobody is going to make me watch that shit again, even if there was a gun to my head. :lol:

Did Batman? Fuck no? Superman? No,


I'll just say what v just said:

"it wasn't a shared universe like the MCU" and Man of Steel was an origin reboot, but DID have some Easter Eggs, hence, SupermanVSBatman. Moving forward, now it will be a shared Man of Steel/ DCUniverse.

I throughly enjoyed it as I did The Dark Knight.


That's some damn high praise right there.

I know it sounds weird to not fawn over every single Marvel movie in the Avengers Universe, because God forbid if someone does, but if I find something to be overrated enough to the point of constructive criticism comes into play, I'm all for it and I think Cap: First Avenger, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Thor and Thor: The Dark World were average movies AT BEST and don't think they deserve the nonstop praise people blindly give them. That's just my opinion, though :lol:
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G.I.Jim wrote:I loved this movie! Much better IMHO than the 1st. I would put it right up there with the Avengers and there were some cool twists. I can't WAIT for the 2nd Spider Man but I'm afraid they're going to screw that up with too many villains. Guess we'll see soon enough. The next few years are going to be amazing for superhero fans. TONS of new promising movies coming out! :D

Yeah, I think ASM2 will suffer from too many new characters introduced in a film. Even though Rhino is only supposed to be in it for 5-10 minutes. It was a big fault of SM3 too, I hate Sony Pictures for forcing Raimi to include Venom in that film and ultimately killing his series of films. I still think my favorite superhero movie was SM2, they focused and nailed Doc Ock, and Spidey sacrificing his own happiness to live with his responsibilities. (When he lowered MJ to go back with her fiance, took a last look and went web-slinging into the night) So true to the comics.


CBM just put out a review the other day, saying TASM2 is the Batman & Robin to the TASM movie franchise. That's about the biggest insult anybody can give for ANY movie, let alone a superhero movie and I just laughed my ass off because there's no humanly possible way that could be true. AT ALL. It looks to be getting good reviews so far so I'm eager to see how they pull it off. The Electro battle looks WILD enough.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby verslibre » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:05 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Just because I don't wank my wanker for ALL things MARVEL has ever put out
YoungJRNY wrote:Green Lantern was big pile of steaming hot diarrhea
YoungJRNY wrote:...years of doing nothing but squat over Superman Return's chest.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

YoungJRNY wrote:I think Cap: First Avenger, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Thor and Thor: The Dark World were average movies AT BEST and don't think they deserve the nonstop praise people blindly give them. That's just my opinion, though :lol:


CA:TFA is the best of those, IMO. The first Thor is thor-oughly entertaining, and IM2 had its moments. TDW could have been a lot better, especially if it had more Sif (sproiiing!), but just to see Kurse come to life was a gas. Anything from Walt Simonson's legendary run is awesome.

IM3 is a fucking irredeemable wreck. Even with its all-action third act, I was still glad when it was over.

P.S. Not sure if you watch Agents of SHIELD every week, but that show has really gone from "just okay" to becoming a fairly badass show, especially in the wake of Cap2. Last month Sif was a guest character (in pursuit of Lorelei, who had escaped her Asgardian prison). The episode wasn't amazing, but Jaimie nevertheless impressed what a great Wonder Woman she'd make.
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Postby verslibre » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:09 am

YoungJRNY wrote:CBM just put out a review the other day, saying TASM2 is the Batman & Robin to the TASM movie franchise. That's about the biggest insult anybody can give for ANY movie, let alone a superhero movie and I just laughed my ass off because there's no humanly possible way that could be true. AT ALL. It looks to be getting good reviews so far so I'm eager to see how they pull it off. The Electro battle looks WILD enough.


Holy shit. I really doubt that. :lol:
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:13 am

CA:TFA is the best of those, IMO. The first Thor is thor-oughly entertaining, and IM2 had its moments. TDW could have been a lot better, especially if it had more Sif (sproiiing!), but just to see Kurse come to life was a gas. Anything from Walt Simonson's legendary run is awesome.


I liked Cap: TFA and Thor. I think they served their purpose in buildup to the Avengers, but they were still average-good movies with way more story to tell and they fell flat because of the build to an Avengers tie in.

I'd rate Cap and Thor an enjoyable 7/10, TFA being more boring of the bunch but still a nice canon to the comics but whoever was saying Thor:TDW was without a doubt a much better film than its predecessor and me believing in that was a total letdown. For that movie to make just as much as Man of Steel is fucking baffling to me, but this audience is pro-Marvel and Avengers at the moment so it's to no surprise.


P.S. Not sure if you watch Agents of SHIELD every week, but that show has really gone from "just okay" to becoming a fairly badass show, especially in the wake of Cap2. Last month Sif was a guest character (in pursuit of Lorelei, who had escaped her Asgardian prison). The episode wasn't amazing, but Jaimie nevertheless impressed what a great Wonder Woman she'd make.


I haven't. I've even been trying to get into Arrow and I just can't get into a television series. I only watched a few episodes of Smallville in its day and couldn't stomach Welling and a dramatized Superman soap-opera with 10+ years of origin either, but that's more of not being able to commit to a television show every week, even with my favorite shows that I love. I'll give it a shot and try to tune in, but AOS never interested me in the first place so it'll be tough to hold an attention span, especially it being featured heavily in TWS.

As for Jamie Alexander, she has a good look for sure and would have made an amazing Wondy, but the Wonder Woman franchise should start with a fresh new face and give an unknown to make Wonder Woman hers and Wondy deserves that. I know Gal Gadot is intense enough to pull it off. Lets hope she does.
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Re: Captain America The Winter Soldier

Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:19 am

verslibre wrote:
Holy shit. I really doubt that. :lol:


THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 Review; "It's The BATMAN & ROBIN Of The Spider-Man Franchise"
..when the likes of Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Man of Steel take huge liberties and are still so often praised, it would be almost hypocritical to spend this review whining about such issues as Uncle Ben being turned into an irrelevent afterthought or Norman Osborn's single (but memorable scene). I suppose the main difference is that those films still told a coherent and enjoyable story despite such fanboy niggles, whereas The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is simply a bad movie.


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=98240

The title to that article is still even painful to read. That's obnoxiously going overboard and what happens when writers get way too much blogger-freedom 8)
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