Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

SUICIDE SQUAD: Jared Leto Talks About 'The Joker' For The First Time; New Character Details
Jared Leto talks here for the very first time about playing The Joker in Suicide Squad, revealing more about how he tormented his fellow cast mates and why the role was like, "giving birth out of my pr**k hole."

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[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

Watched Man of Steel again yesterday.

I have to say, what a beautiful-looking film. Even if Fong's not there, the thing just looks so damned nice. The angles, the establishing shots, the judicious-though-not-constant application of the much-maligned "shaky cam" technique, the story, it's well-edited, and those muthafukkin' VFX. Those effects are just fantastic. The transitional images between super-speed and real-time motion (which they used the most for Faora) look great.

It sits comfortably at 7.2 on IMDb, rated by nearly a half-million users. In fact, a quick glance at many of the top threads reflect a favorable stance towards this film.

And those who say the film is humorless are completely off. It's just not the HAHA-did-you GET-it?! type of humor that is so pervasive in the MCU. I LOL'd when Superman threw the drone down in front of Col. Swanwick, who then got out and without hesitation reprimanded the Kryptonian: "Are you stupid??!!". I'd completely forgotten about that. Hilarious.

The entire "Zod fiasco" has no basis. Earlier in the film, Zod tells him "Either you die...or I do!." Then when Superman begs him to stop short of turning bystanders into a stir-fry delicacy, Zod curses "Never!!

There was just no fuckin' way around it. Average Nimrod: "Superman should have thrown him into the Phantom Zone with the rest of them?" You know, that would've been very convenient, but Zod obviously escaped the pull, as did Superman, with Lois in his arms. Superman saves various citizens and military throughout his inaugural conflict, so the "he saved nobody, he just trashed the place" argument is dead weight. And the final melee is about five minutes, so it's not an excuse for the oft-cited indulgence for "disaster porn," either.

Average Nimrod: "Superman should have taken him to S.T.A.R. Labs and put him in a cell with a red sun environment." Hey, that's great, except there's one little problem: S.T.A.R. Labs has yet to exist in the DCEU circa the events of the film. It's also a facility that, as we've seen in The Flash, can experience power outages, break-ins and structural compromises. So what happens if Zod escapes? Yep. Back to barbecuing Earthlings with his built-in stir-fry vision.

Why didn't MoS gross even more than a very respectable 668M globally (even despite being a second reboot)? The evidence has been plain enough. World War Z opened a week later during the height of zombie-mania. Anyone who thinks many people didn't opt to see that "in lieu of" MoS misses the forest for the tree. Had MoS had one additional week without another anticipated blockbuster film opening, its domestic and worldwide grosses likely would've been significantly higher.

[YoungJRNYfan]

"Superman should have thrown him into the Phantom Zone with the rest of them?" You know, that would've been very convenient, but Zod obviously escaped the pull, as did Superman, with Lois in his arms.

Once Supes re-charges with help from the sun in the Indian Ocean, he comes hauling ass back to Metropolis just as Zod is about to blow the U.S aircraft to pieces. "If you destroy this ship, you destroy Krypton! "Krypton had its chance!" Once Supes heat visioned the ever-living-shit out of the Kryptonian space craft, it destroyed everything, including the Genesis Chamber and the Phantom Zone projector.

After that, the Phantom Zone closed shut, so there is absolutely no way the Phantom Zone could be opened back up at that point (unless you reverse Engineer Kryptonian Tech; ahem, LEX ) so there was nowhere to place Zod. Take him to the moon? Like Goyer said, their Superman can't even fly to the moon. He can hold his breath for extended periods of time, but his power-set is still not all quite there to the levels we all know and love......yet.

You said it best, v. It's average nimrods who can't follow and those who don't give the film a 2nd; 3rd spin. I have to admit, the first time I saw MoS in theaters , it FLOORED the shit out of me. It took unexpected twists and turns I didn't expect it to go in (minus the neck snap because I'm a retard who stumbled on spoilers). It took me 3-4 views in theaters to really grasp what was going on. MoS is a film that gives me a different vibe every single time I watch it and I like it more and more because of that. Plus, like you said, it's gorgeous to look at! MoS receives a ton of flack, but the great things that it accomplished should never go unnoticed. It's underrated in the world of CBM's and I'm glad that movie spawned BvS.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Average Nimrod: "Superman should have taken him to S.T.A.R. Labs and put him in a cell with a red sun environment."

The thing is, Superman was Superman for all but a week in MoS! It was his origin story that didn't even introduce Kryptonite so there's nothing out there in the world on Earth that anybody could possibly ever know exists that can be deadly to Kal-EL....yet Superman needs to be caught in situations and there needs to be tests done in order for guys like Lex Luthor, or hell, even Cyborg to understand what's out there that can weaken Superman. We saw in MoS that Kryptonian atmosphere hurt Superman, but that was only because his body was rejecting that atmosphere, the same way Zod's body rejected Earth's atmosphere once his helmet shattered off in the Smallville battle.

Point is, if Kryptonite isn't even discovered yet (and we now know it exists in BvS) we still don't know the extent in how anybody figured out it is a weakness to Superman. If Kryptonite (Superman's most intense weakness that could kill him) isn't 100% discovered, there's no way in HELL any scientist's can figure out that red sunlight radiation can weaken Supes since there is absolutely no way to create or manipulate that type of radiation without existence of Krypton....yet (coughcoughBRAINIACcoughcough) That's what things like...sequels and solo movies are for. There's still so much to tell with Superman and his story, especially his Kryptonian roots and I hope they tap into that crazy SyFy potential in future films.

[verslibre]

I have to admit, the first time I saw MoS in theaters , it FLOORED the shit out of me. It took unexpected twists and turns I didn't expect it to go in (minus the neck snap because I'm a retard who stumbled on spoilers). It took me 3-4 views in theaters to really grasp what was going on.

I actually clapped when the neck snap happened. Nobody else (that I recall) did. I think the audience was stunned.

MoS is a film that gives me a different vibe every single time I watch it and I like it more and more because of that. Plus, like you said, it's gorgeous to look at! MoS receives a ton of flack, but the great things that it accomplished should never go unnoticed. It's underrated in the world of CBM's and I'm glad that movie spawned BvS.

It truly is. The "colorless" argument is BS, too. There's color everywhere, it's just not a handful of Skittles in every frame.

Interesting that Gal was Zack's first choice for Faora. I'm glad it went to Antje because her icy stare when holding her blade against Chris Meloni is creeptastic (in a good way). She simply looks deadly. Hot, yet deadly.

[YoungJRNYfan]

It truly is. The "colorless" argument is BS, too. There's color everywhere, it's just not a handful of Skittles in every frame.

The film is littered with color. I really do think Snyder's filters fit the mood of the movie and I had no problem with any of it. I love that filtered look. It gives off a much more authentic feel IMO. The Smallville fight is full of color and looks absolutely amazing. At the end of that sequence when Supes moves out from behind the wreckage, his suit is shining in the sun. They specifically made the material of Supe's suit look different in certain light fixtures. There were plenty of those moments in MoS. The color looked great when it needed to and bleak when it needed to depending on the situation. Those moods fit the story they were selling.

Interesting that Gal was Zack's first choice for Faora. I'm glad it went to Antje because her icy stare when holding her blade against Chris Meloni is creeptastic (in a good way). She simply looks deadly. Hot, yet deadly.

Definitely. It just goes to show how pin-point Snyder is when it comes to his vision. He knows what he wants and I don't think it's a coincidence that Traue has that same ethnic look as Gal. Faora was one FIIIIIIIIIIIIINE villain and it would be badass to see her somehow come back, only if it's for a quick scene or cameo or what-not. Faora's role was accepted so well from the audience, they brought Faora back into the comics and played a role in a recent story arc; modeled and drawn exactly like Antje in MoS. Loved the scene where she see's Supes for the first time and checks him out up and down haha.

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Loved the scene where she see's Supes for the first time and checks him out up and down haha.

"Damn. Too bad he's the son of my boss's enemy. Which makes him my enemy. Maybe I can still work out something with the General."

[YoungJRNYfan]

For a split second, Faora probably wished she wasn't born as a pre-determined Kryptonian since Kal-El was the first Kryptonian by natural child birth (which shouldn't be over - looked) but Faora definitely wanted the Super-D for a second before getting back to using human beings as human bowling balls!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Stay classy Falcon. Being a dick to an interviewer who liked Man of Steel. Sit down, you Johnny Come Lately and STFU

[verslibre]

What's going on? Mackie mouthed off again?

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I heard yesterday that Cavill revealed the opening scene to BvS in an interview. Not sure how true that is, but be wary and steer clear where necessary. I don't know how much he let go in the way of details.

[verslibre]

Looks like Supergirl has scored the highest ratings for a new series debut so far this season.

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I don't think Mackie even watched MoS. He's being a full-on "company man."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yP6LkvXN5LY

[Abitaman]

Calvin didn't really give up much, probably 70% of the people guessing would get it right. It was a question of does it start or a flashback. Not giving away much.

[Monker]

Looks like Supergirl has scored the highest ratings for a new series debut so far this season.

And, I bet it tanks in the ratings and is canceled after, maybe, one season.

The show sucks - bad.

[Monker]

Calvin didn't really give up much, probably 70% of the people guessing would get it right. It was a question of does it start or a flashback. Not giving away much.

I didn't know DC had the rights to Calvin and Hobbes.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Anybody watch Ash vs Evil Dead? I don't get Starz.

[verslibre]

Anybody watch Ash vs Evil Dead? I don't get Starz.

Me neither. I want to see it, too.

[YoungJRNYfan]

SuperCafe

[verslibre]

What the hell.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Nicole Kidman in talks to join WONDER WOMAN team as the Amazonian Princes ' s mother, Queen Hippolyta.

If true, this would be right in line with how tight and how great the casting for the DCEU has been. Very easy to see Kidman as Hippolyta. I hope it turns out to be true.

WB'S stockholder meeting is Wednesday. Wouldn't be surprised to see some DCEU announcements.

[verslibre]

Wouldn't be surprised to see some DCEU announcements.

Already got wood.

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[Monker]

Looks like Supergirl has scored the highest ratings for a new series debut so far this season.

And, it took a %29 reduction in viewers this week. Wow.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The pilot for Supergirl scored a killer 13+ million viewers. That's humongous so with that big of a debut, the percentages for the second show were going to drop big. Still, Supergirl E2 still had 8+ million viewers. In comparison, shows like Gotham average about 4 million viewers.

I finally caught up with Supergirl's second episode. Benoist is a helluva casting and does her part well. She makes a terrific Kara and the suit looks really nice overall.

The show seems to lack balance to me. The references to Superman are way overdone and it's "girl girl girl girl girl" for the entirety of the show with no care for the many subplots taking place. I just feel the show lacks balance with so much being thrown at the screen, but it's still early. Television is tough when you're introducing new things to an iconic family such as Superman's but the show seems one-note thus far.

I was hoping Superman wouldn't be that much involved so Kara would have more of the spotlight, but the heavy references are forcing the show and viewers to want Supes to show up, especially since it makes no sense to have a "no Superman clause" when villains from Krypton are showing up right away. I saw the trailer for E3 and Superman comes to help Kara. Though he's blurred, I think it adds more weight to the name drops every 5 seconds and is better for the show overall if they address Superman early so Kara can have more of the spotlight. They should only use Supes when the story calls for it. The problem is the constant name-drops to Supes. It's a contradicting feeling when they don't want Superman to appear much and have James Olsen be that constant mouthpiece between the two. Glad Kal's atleast showing up next Monday.

[verslibre]

I need to catch up on Supergirl. Good thing I haven't let Monker talk me out of watching. I just don't like that it's up against Gotham, which I can't miss.

Last night's episode of Arrow featured John Constantine (Matt Ryan) being called in for a favor by Ollie to recapture Laurel's sister's body after something else possessed it upon her return from the Lazarus Pit. She was like "Evil Black Canary" with no problem killing thugs with their own shivs and then turning on the "victim" and kicking her ass! Then she went after Ollie's sister (who's now Speedy, after the death of Roy Harper aka Arsenal).

Anyway, Ryan stole the freakin' show. He was crass but not too crass and totally immersed in the role (with some tongue-in-cheek cues). They found the Eye of Horus in a subterranean chamber in the flashback segment.

Not surprised Constantine got cancelled because that's a show that needed to be on AMC or FX. It needs that R rating to breathe.

[verslibre]

I was hoping Superman wouldn't be that much involved so Kara would have more of the spotlight, but the heavy references are forcing the show and viewers to want Supes to show up, especially since it makes no sense to have a "no Superman clause" when villains from Krypton are showing up right away. I saw the trailer for E3 and Superman comes to help Kara. Though he's blurred, I think it adds more weight to the name drops every 5 seconds and is better for the show overall if they address Superman early so Kara can have more of the spotlight. They should only use Supes when the story calls for it. The problem is the constant name-drops to Supes. It's a contradicting feeling when they don't want Superman to appear much and have James Olsen be that constant mouthpiece between the two. Glad Kal's atleast showing up next Monday.

In Flash they have no problem connecting Earth-1 and Earth 2. Flash, Arrow, Constantine, Atom, all these characters occupy the same reality. (I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they eventually do something with Kara, but I feel that that's a very long time off).

They should just show Supes' face. I don't think anyone's going to get confused.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Yeah, it's kind of confusing to me. On one hand, they refuse to use Superman himself in the show other than a blurred version we may not fully see (the actor playing the blurred Superman I guess is a random producer working on the show?), but they'll reference him literally in every one on one scene the show has through every phase of dialogue. It's sending mixed signals to the viewers on how they want to use Superman and Kara ' s obvious connection to him. The show does have its moments though. Benoist plays the role well and can carry the show. She looks so damn good in the suit and the action isn't all that bad for television. I'm definitely coming back next week.

[verslibre]

I shit you not. One of the co-executive producers on Arrow last night was Speed Weed. Not sure if it's an alias or just a joke, but there was a Los Angeles-based weed delivery service called Speed Weed.