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The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:Here we go again. Prove it. Why are their names anywhere near Aquaman, WW84 and The Flash? They don't have to be. It's not done as a courtesy.
This is standard Hollywood procedure. It's just a contractual thing. I really have to assume you are extremely young or naive.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Do you also think Romero really produced the remake of The Crazies? Or Carpenter produced the remake of The Thing?
The_Noble_Cause wrote:More to the point, do you think Nolan had any involvement with BvsS or JL?
The_Noble_Cause wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:In every interview, Jason Momoa continues to say "Whatever you see in this film, is all owed to Zack Snyder. The things that were cut in Justice League we saved for my film but credit goes to Zack for his collaboration with James." And the same can be said with Jenkins' Wonder Woman. Zack had a huge hand in orchestrating 'Wonder Woman' and coming up with a lot of beats to that story. WW was Patty's in the end and she made a few minor changes, but Zack is going to be an executive producer on WW84 and he posted such on Vero. He's still involved.
Neal mentions Perry alot too. He hasn't been involved with the band in a century.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:Nolan and Goyer took Man of Steel to the studio. Zack had to convince Nolan of creative decision's and Snyder had to get Nolan's blessing for Batman. The dude has major pull and say for the studio and what is/isn't allowed to be greenlit. Nolan's word is highly regarded.
verslibre wrote:Recently, Zack has stated Faora is NOT dead. I'd love to see her come back to shake things up.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:As soon as Reeves has Batman up and running, that will become the main cash cow. Many characters will be ignored completely. In other words, don't hold your breath for a Cyborg movie anytime soon.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:The DCEU Universe will be Trinity heavy. It will rebuild around Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman while the DC Dark label will bring in the Elseworld; darker versions of these characters.
You have no idea. If you had your finger on the pulse of the DCEU you would have been calling many of the firings/demotions before they happened. You are just a constant cheerleader in the face of impending doom.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:Hard to do that when Christopher Nolan wanted nothing to do with an open world concept and wanted his trilogy to act as bookends to his story. This would have been badass and THEE way to go, but it just wasn't in the cards.
Nonsense. That's like saying Tim Burton owned the character. WB should have just made another Bat flick and kept the dark tone. Gradually, expand the universe from there.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:verslibre wrote:Recently, Zack has stated Faora is NOT dead. I'd love to see her come back to shake things up.
YES, PLEASE:
verslibre wrote:Black Adam (Dwayne Johnson) had better show up eventually, too. DJ's movies are hit-or-miss but he puts asses in seats. And you know that confrontation will be macho grande. Superman-Zod Part Deux.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:They gave in and the result was the mindbogglingly and incredibly stupid Justice League reshoots by a Marvel reject who can't frame a shot for the life of him. JL was truly a hack reshot by a true hack. DC is going to the more classic/standalone philosophy with their classic hero's and their films are going to be an arrange of tones in the genre but I would think that Matt Reeves' The Batman is going to be a BADASS addition to the Bat Universe. You won't see the "course correction" bullshit to what Joss did to Batfleck. That shit was an ABOMINATION.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
verslibre wrote:You keep saying that. You must be a fan of the adage "a lie told enough times becomes truth."
verslibre wrote:You'd have better success pulling the waistband of your tighty-whities over your head. Those examples are such reaches, I'm sitting here trying to not spit coffee. Romero made The Crazies in 1973. For the remake, he got a check. Carpenter made his Thing revamp in 1982. For that shitty 2010 redo, he got a check. You're bringing up resurrected movies, not an active, ongoing franchise.
verslibre wrote:Nolan moved on after MoS and he never tried to say he wasn't. Not the same thing.
verslibre wrote:To append TDKT would be to devalue it. How you're unable, or unwilling, to acknowledge that is telling. 2013-2014 would have been too soon for another Batman film with a different actor in the role. It would be like recasting Gal Gadot already.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:To append TDKT would be to devalue it. How you're unable, or unwilling, to acknowledge that is telling. 2013-2014 would have been too soon for another Batman film with a different actor in the role. It would be like recasting Gal Gadot already.
Imo Batman films should be churned out every 2-3 years, just like Bond was/is. Marvel is replicating this model. Black Panther was still in theaters when Infinity War came out.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:You keep saying that. You must be a fan of the adage "a lie told enough times becomes truth."
As already mentioned, Nolan is credited as a producer on JL. No involvement. Do you think Stan Lee is really the producer on any of the Marvel films? Same thing with Snyder. It's a pro-forma credit. Happens all the time.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:You'd have better success pulling the waistband of your tighty-whities over your head. Those examples are such reaches, I'm sitting here trying to not spit coffee. Romero made The Crazies in 1973. For the remake, he got a check. Carpenter made his Thing revamp in 1982. For that shitty 2010 redo, he got a check. You're bringing up resurrected movies, not an active, ongoing franchise.
Thanks for proving my point. In many cases, producing credits mean NOTHING. It's a contractual thing. Snyder is not involved with DC cinematic universe in any meaningful way.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:Nolan moved on after MoS and he never tried to say he wasn't. Not the same thing.
Yes, Nolan moved on and he still received producing credit. Similarly, Snyder was shown the door by WB security and he will still get a credit.
verslibre wrote:Ant-Man's coming out this week, and Infinity War is still in theaters.
verslibre wrote:Which has nothing to do with anything, especially a movie with another character that comes out every 2-4 years.
verslibre wrote:That poor dead rocking horse.
verslibre wrote:Ah, no. What I did was point out how your using examples of '70s movies getting remade, which typically (but not always) result in royalty payments, has nothing to do with the Snyders' ongoing involvement.
verslibre wrote:If he was shown the door by WB security (I know you're joking), why does he still have an office on the lot? (That part's not a joke.)
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:Ant-Man's coming out this week, and Infinity War is still in theaters.
Ok. So?
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:Which has nothing to do with anything, especially a movie with another character that comes out every 2-4 years.
Seems Marvel can handle multiple franchise properties involving the same characters being released concurrently.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Yet you are saying that DC could not afford to do another Bat soon after the Nolan/Bale run. Which is bullshit.
verslibre wrote:Think about it.
YoungJRNYfan wrote:verslibre wrote:Think about it.
Bro..baby steps
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:That poor dead rocking horse.
That should be DC films new logo. A dead rotting jackass swarming with black eyed maggots.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:All of my examples (Carpenter, Stan Lee, Romero, Nolan) were credited as producers (and in some cases exec producers) yet their involvement was in-name-only. They were not listed as "royalty payment receiver." Again, you are just proving my point that the title of producer often means NOTHING.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Umm, Snyder's last film was shot on his cell phone.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:His career is DOA. Maybe he can do another CGI flick about talking owls.
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