Is Cain homophobic now?

[RPM]

It is possible to not agree with a Gay lifestyle based on your beliefs, and not be homophobic.
I think the lines between "not agreeing with" and "phobia" are very clear by definition.
Where he falls in line with this I dont know. Not a fan of his Wife's personally.

[youkeepmewaiting]

FM, Cain is communicating his belief based on his study of the Bible. If you're not a Christian and don't believe in the bible, that's fine. If I was in his shoes I would not alienate the 2% of my audience. However, I'm not going to bag on the guy for sharing what he believes.

I'm a live and let live kind of person and I'm not here to judge (too much ). I have good friends that are gay, I respect them and enjoy their friendship. I'm not a big fan of anyone demonizing someone for sharing his beliefs. If you don't agree let it go and move one. Stifling what people think and open communication is the beginning of the END IMHO.

If someone shares a belief which encourages discrimination then they have to be prepared to be called out

[hgwy407]

Really. Some folks are pushed into an entirely different place praising and worshiping a person who will cage children for profits and yet warn others of being pushed from the Lord. Who does he serve?

Who cages children for profit?

Exactly. Disgusting comparison and baseless.

[JourneyHard]

I hear Gay Pride, but I wonder what are gays proud about? Gays claims they were born gay. So being gay is NOT some accomplishment to be proud about. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Perhaps Cain is just warning gays about this. Calling people homophobic is just a sign you do NOT have any answers about why gays are proud to be gay.

Furthermore, Gay Pride is all political with the goal of ending Christianity in the USA. If you are gay, NOBODY is stopping you. Be gay all you want. But when you use your gayness to try to end Christianity, Cain has the right to speak up. I have proof that this is the goal of Gay Pride. Many Americans think a marriage license is a WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER, but gays fought hard to get the right to get this WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER. Why is this? They did this to end Christianity.

Gays are NOT be attacked by Christians. However, in Muslim Countries, gays are thrown off of tall buildings. Yet, gays love Muslims, and gays hate Christians. This is very telling. Gays love labels and calling people homophobic, but Christians are the number one group in the world being murdered; however, there is no word Christophobe. I find this very telling, too.

The bottom line is if gays have the right to say what they want, then Cain has the right to say what he wants. A real friend of the gays would tell them to repent so they can go to heaven. A non-friend would tell them to keep doing what they do and go to the other place. Once again, NOBODY is stopping gays from being gays. They can be gay all day and all night, but actions do have consequences and Cain is just trying to point that out.

[youkeepmewaiting]

I hear Gay Pride, but I wonder what are gays proud about? Gays claims they were born gay. So being gay is NOT some accomplishment to be proud about. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Perhaps Cain is just warning gays about this. Calling people homophobic is just a sign you do NOT have any answers about why gays are proud to be gay.

Furthermore, Gay Pride is all political with the goal of ending Christianity in the USA. If you are gay, NOBODY is stopping you. Be gay all you want. But when you use your gayness to try to end Christianity, Cain has the right to speak up. I have proof that this is the goal of Gay Pride. Many Americans think a marriage license is a WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER, but gays fought hard to get the right to get this WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER. Why is this? They did this to end Christianity.

Gays are NOT be attacked by Christians. However, in Muslim Countries, gays are thrown off of tall buildings. Yet, gays love Muslims, and gays hate Christians. This is very telling. Gays love labels and calling people homophobic, but Christians are the number one group in the world being murdered; however, there is no word Christophobe. I find this very telling, too.

The bottom line is if gays have the right to say what they want, then Cain has the right to say what he wants. A real friend of the gays would tell them to repent so they can go to heaven. A non-friend would tell them to keep doing what they do and go to the other place. Once again, NOBODY is stopping gays from being gays. They can be gay all day and all night, but actions do have consequences and Cain is just trying to point that out.

Oh man, I feel sorry for you. You're delusional and perhaps need to seek professional help.

[Marabelle]

reference to the New York Times July 8 2019
Title. Trump and the Merchants of Detention
“Even betrayal seems to profit the President and his friends”
Written by columnist Paul Krugman

[Sighlence]

FM, Cain is communicating his belief based on his study of the Bible. If you're not a Christian and don't believe in the bible, that's fine. If I was in his shoes I would not alienate the 2% of my audience. However, I'm not going to bag on the guy for sharing what he believes.

I'm a live and let live kind of person and I'm not here to judge (too much ). I have good friends that are gay, I respect them and enjoy their friendship. I'm not a big fan of anyone demonizing someone for sharing his beliefs. If you don't agree let it go and move one. Stifling what people think and open communication is the beginning of the END IMHO.

If someone shares a belief which encourages discrimination then they have to be prepared to be called out

Nobody is discriminating against your gay buddies. Get over it....

[Marabelle]

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[The_Noble_Cause]

reference to the New York Times July 8 2019
Title. Trump and the Merchants of Detention
“Even betrayal seems to profit the President and his friends”
Written by columnist Paul Krugman

Krugman predicted that the internet would have a minimal effect on the economy. In the 2008 race, he openly smeared Obama supporters, like myself, as misogynists. More recently, he did the same to Bernie Sanders supporters. Don't forget his prediction that the stock market would tank upon Trump being elected. The guy is wrong on virtually everything. Why would I give a shit what he says?

[Memorex]

reference to the New York Times July 8 2019
Title. Trump and the Merchants of Detention
“Even betrayal seems to profit the President and his friends”
Written by columnist Paul Krugman

Krugman predicted that the internet would have a minimal effect on the economy. In the 2008 race, he openly smeared Obama supporters, like myself, as misogynists. More recently, he did the same to Bernie Sanders supporters. Don't forget his prediction that the stock market would tank upon Trump being elected. The guy is wrong on virtually everything. Why would I give a shit what he says?

Yea. Dude's a hack.

[TageRyche]

Wow, there are some really delusional posts in this thread.

[RedWingFan]

"Pride" is still one of the 7 deadly sins....right?

[Aaron]

Expressing your view in words is not discrimination. Actions impacting people based on their race, religion, etc is discrimination.

If you can't talk about issues openly it's the beginning of the end. And we hit that time about 5 years ago.

FM, Cain is communicating his belief based on his study of the Bible. If you're not a Christian and don't believe in the bible, that's fine. If I was in his shoes I would not alienate the 2% of my audience. However, I'm not going to bag on the guy for sharing what he believes.

I'm a live and let live kind of person and I'm not here to judge (too much ). I have good friends that are gay, I respect them and enjoy their friendship. I'm not a big fan of anyone demonizing someone for sharing his beliefs. If you don't agree let it go and move one. Stifling what people think and open communication is the beginning of the END IMHO.

If someone shares a belief which encourages discrimination then they have to be prepared to be called out

[Andrew]

I hear Gay Pride, but I wonder what are gays proud about? Gays claims they were born gay. So being gay is NOT some accomplishment to be proud about. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Perhaps Cain is just warning gays about this. Calling people homophobic is just a sign you do NOT have any answers about why gays are proud to be gay.

Furthermore, Gay Pride is all political with the goal of ending Christianity in the USA. If you are gay, NOBODY is stopping you. Be gay all you want. But when you use your gayness to try to end Christianity, Cain has the right to speak up. I have proof that this is the goal of Gay Pride. Many Americans think a marriage license is a WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER, but gays fought hard to get the right to get this WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER. Why is this? They did this to end Christianity.

Gays are NOT be attacked by Christians. However, in Muslim Countries, gays are thrown off of tall buildings. Yet, gays love Muslims, and gays hate Christians. This is very telling. Gays love labels and calling people homophobic, but Christians are the number one group in the world being murdered; however, there is no word Christophobe. I find this very telling, too.

The bottom line is if gays have the right to say what they want, then Cain has the right to say what he wants. A real friend of the gays would tell them to repent so they can go to heaven. A non-friend would tell them to keep doing what they do and go to the other place. Once again, NOBODY is stopping gays from being gays. They can be gay all day and all night, but actions do have consequences and Cain is just trying to point that out.

Oh man, I feel sorry for you. You're delusional and perhaps need to seek professional help.

Couldn’t agree more.

It still surprises me how conservative some of the Journey fanbase is.

[Aaron]

guilty as charged.

JourneyHard had some good points as well. I'm not sure why we can't just talk about topics without the demonization and identity politics. I'm open to talk about any topic in a respectful, data based way.

Andrew, why would you want alienate half of your audience by having a negative view of conservatives? That does not make sense to me from a business perspective.

I hear Gay Pride, but I wonder what are gays proud about? Gays claims they were born gay. So being gay is NOT some accomplishment to be proud about. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins. Perhaps Cain is just warning gays about this. Calling people homophobic is just a sign you do NOT have any answers about why gays are proud to be gay.

Furthermore, Gay Pride is all political with the goal of ending Christianity in the USA. If you are gay, NOBODY is stopping you. Be gay all you want. But when you use your gayness to try to end Christianity, Cain has the right to speak up. I have proof that this is the goal of Gay Pride. Many Americans think a marriage license is a WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER, but gays fought hard to get the right to get this WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER. Why is this? They did this to end Christianity.

Gays are NOT be attacked by Christians. However, in Muslim Countries, gays are thrown off of tall buildings. Yet, gays love Muslims, and gays hate Christians. This is very telling. Gays love labels and calling people homophobic, but Christians are the number one group in the world being murdered; however, there is no word Christophobe. I find this very telling, too.

The bottom line is if gays have the right to say what they want, then Cain has the right to say what he wants. A real friend of the gays would tell them to repent so they can go to heaven. A non-friend would tell them to keep doing what they do and go to the other place. Once again, NOBODY is stopping gays from being gays. They can be gay all day and all night, but actions do have consequences and Cain is just trying to point that out.

Oh man, I feel sorry for you. You're delusional and perhaps need to seek professional help.

Couldn’t agree more.

It still surprises me how conservative some of the Journey fanbase is.

[Andrew]

Not negative towards conservatives in general.

Negative towards discrimination, bible thumping do gooders, hypocrites, homophobes, racists, and people holding society back. If it was left in the hands of RWNJs, mother would still be in her rightful place in the kitchen or pushing a vacuum

I just don’t like assholes. Obviously those come in many shapes and sizes and colours.

[Sighlence]

Not negative towards conservatives in general.

Negative towards discrimination, bible thumping do gooders, hypocrites, homophobes, racists, and people holding society back. If it was left in the hands of RWNJs, mother would still be in her rightful place in the kitchen or pushing a vacuum

I just don’t like assholes. Obviously those come in many shapes and sizes and colours.

And we feel the same about the left, so there’s that. Aaron is right....we are past the point. The days of going along just to get along are ovah! Can’t wait for the reelection. Heads will literally explode.

[Sighlence]

It is possible to not agree with a Gay lifestyle based on your beliefs, and not be homophobic.
I think the lines between "not agreeing with" and "phobia" are very clear by definition.

Yes, and it’s clear as day.

[Andrew]

Not negative towards conservatives in general.

Negative towards discrimination, bible thumping do gooders, hypocrites, homophobes, racists, and people holding society back. If it was left in the hands of RWNJs, mother would still be in her rightful place in the kitchen or pushing a vacuum

I just don’t like assholes. Obviously those come in many shapes and sizes and colours.

And we feel the same about the left, so there’s that. Aaron is right....we are past the point. The days of going along just to get along are ovah! Can’t wait for the reelection. Heads will literally explode.

Ok...you can do that. But let me ask you - what the hell has "the left" done that's so horrendously bad? Push for healthcare for ALL, fairness to all, no discrimination... what terrible crimes! Right up there with paying off pornstars, leaving wives to take up with rich pastors, blocking payments to 9/11 responders.

[Aaron]

Good deal. I'm with you, I'm a live and let live person. I'm not sure what holding society back means but we are the same, I don't like assholes either! I do believe our values need to based on God (your choice), and a reasonable moral stance to keep everyone together on the same team.

I don't know what RWNJ's are but man I agree! And to play it fair, if that's what mother wants to do and is comfortable with it then that's cool too. She should have the same opportunities as dad but it's her choice. I'm not sure how well lefties here in the States would support a woman that chooses to be a mother and homemaker It feels like we're going off the deep end.

Agree, assholes come in all shapes, colors and sizes. I'm a performance based person, I'm all about the best person with the most capability for the job. I don't care if you're green and from the moon, if you're the most capable person, you get the job. We've gone way past that in States. It's all about who you are, not what you can deliver.

Not negative towards conservatives in general.

Negative towards discrimination, bible thumping do gooders, hypocrites, homophobes, racists, and people holding society back. If it was left in the hands of RWNJs, mother would still be in her rightful place in the kitchen or pushing a vacuum

I just don’t like assholes. Obviously those come in many shapes and sizes and colours.

[Aaron]

By today's standards in the States that is not possible. As soon as you express your views not agreeing with the gay lifestyle you're labeled as a homophobe. Not being able to talk about the issues is a problem! You can't make progress and bring people together, sharing experiences, without it.

And worst of all, we're not changing the definition of words to put people on the defensive so they will be quiet. If you disagree the gay lifestyle you're a homophobe. What better way to keep people quiet, It's a sad state of affairs really.

I hope things are better on these topics in other parts of the world!

It is possible to not agree with a Gay lifestyle based on your beliefs, and not be homophobic.
I think the lines between "not agreeing with" and "phobia" are very clear by definition.

Yes, and it’s clear as day.

[Aaron]

Common now Mac, I don't think the left has done anything horrendously bad except for pushing socialism in the USA. I don't think anyone is opposed to fairness for all and no discrimination. I can assure you I'm for both! Healthcare for all is tough. If you can pay for it ok but I do NOT want government run healthcare. We have the Veterans Health Care Administration here (VA) that runs the government funded health care for our USA Vets. They should get the best but it's the worst. Lines, rationing, corruption and 0 accountability spends huge money with little to no care for our people that sacrificed so much. That example is why I'm not ok with government funded healthcare.

I worry it will also kill development of new treatment and procedures as the government will control pricing and ultimately salaries of people in the industry.

As far giving shit to my president, here's what I have to say living it for his term. There no truth in media here, NONE!. Almost all of it is politicized to the point I won't watch it. I believe little to 0 info I hear from the media in general. They have a lower rating than congress here if you can believe that! What I will say is our economy, business conditions, salaries, unemployment rates for all and profits are better than they've been in the majority of my lifetime. I'll take results over hearsay anytime.

I do find it interesting that people who do not live here have interest in our issues. I believe the 9/11 issue is getting fixed and it should.

Ok...you can do that. But let me ask you - what the hell has "the left" done that's so horrendously bad? Push for healthcare for ALL, fairness to all, no discrimination... what terrible crimes! Right up there with paying off pornstars, leaving wives to take up with rich pastors, blocking payments to 9/11 responders.

[Andrew]

Appreciate the articulate and measured reply Aaron. Peace and love brother!

[Aaron]

Same here sir! Peace and love TTF! Our approach is the only way to move forward IMHO. Thanks for real passion and real feedback Mac. You're real! and that's important. Lets talk!

Appreciate the articulate and measured reply Aaron. Peace and love brother!

[Aaron]

And FYI, you need to give Greta Van Fleet some love brother. I'm the same as you and they are my current favorite original band.

[WalrusOct9]

I really wish I knew nothing about Jonathan Cain outside of his keyboard playing. Good lord (literally), he's become a nutjob.