JourneyHard wrote:Last Guitar Hero is great.
Crash of the Crown sounds like a Queen song.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:JourneyHard wrote:Last Guitar Hero is great.
Crash of the Crown sounds like a Queen song.
If we have to compare the two (and I guess DDY vs. Styx comparisons are inevitable), Crash of the Crowns wins. Guitar Hero bored me.
bellairepark73 wrote:HI. I have a question: why is a Styx topic in a Journey message board thread?
Monker wrote:Well, I agree with that. Styx is trying to be progressive and Progressive. They are moving their music forward. They are influenced by their past but not constantly trying to reach back to it. Dennis' last single "Isle of Anthrope" is an INTENTIONAL throwback to 1970's Styx. "Last Guitar Hero" sounds like a throwback to mediocre 80's rock. Some of the lyrics are corny, and it's repetitive...boring. Frankly, Dennis' first single was better and he should have given it more time. It almost seems like Styx putting out their new music pushed Frontiers to release a new Dennis single.
JourneyHard wrote: This is exactly the contradiction Neal and Jon have been saying. They want to keep the legacy sound and stretch out in new and interesting directions. With help from their new band members, perhaps they can do the impossible. Keep the legacy sound and explore new musical places. (I am excited to hear what they have created.)
The_Noble_Cause wrote:JourneyHard wrote: This is exactly the contradiction Neal and Jon have been saying. They want to keep the legacy sound and stretch out in new and interesting directions. With help from their new band members, perhaps they can do the impossible. Keep the legacy sound and explore new musical places. (I am excited to hear what they have created.)
Haven't heard that from Jon at all. Jon went from being against new music to agreeing to a single to agreeing to an EP to now recording a full blown album. Once again, Neal wins and so do the fans. As for the sound - Cain last said he wants to move back to the center like Arrival. But who knows? I feel Schon and Narada are holding some of the creative cards.
JourneyHard wrote: Now that I think about it, Arrival had the legacy sound and they were adventurous on some of the songs, too.
ChicagoSTYX wrote:Here is another song (Reveries) from the new Styx album for anyone here interested. Something to check out while you wait for the new Journey album.
https://youtu.be/NkR4ZuaSRpI
Archetype wrote:Crash Of The Crown has proven to be an incredibly good album, and the 5 tracks from it they played in Hamburg, NY last week really came across really well and the crowd received them even better than expected.
Monker wrote:Archetype wrote:Crash Of The Crown has proven to be an incredibly good album, and the 5 tracks from it they played in Hamburg, NY last week really came across really well and the crowd received them even better than expected.
Meanwhile, for Journey, we are not even sure what the lineup will be long term, when an album is coming out, if they are on BMG or are releasing it on their own, their single fell completely flat and really went nowhere, and their last national broadcast had Arnel sounding absolutely horrible.
I'm sure glad Styx has their shit together. Journey (Neal) could learn something from them.
Eric wrote:Monker wrote:Archetype wrote:Crash Of The Crown has proven to be an incredibly good album, and the 5 tracks from it they played in Hamburg, NY last week really came across really well and the crowd received them even better than expected.
Meanwhile, for Journey, we are not even sure what the lineup will be long term, when an album is coming out, if they are on BMG or are releasing it on their own, their single fell completely flat and really went nowhere, and their last national broadcast had Arnel sounding absolutely horrible.
I'm sure glad Styx has their shit together. Journey (Neal) could learn something from them.
What?
I love Styx but they just played Hamburg NY. Meanwhile Journey played Lollapoolaza. Come on Monker.
Eric wrote:Monker wrote:Archetype wrote:Crash Of The Crown has proven to be an incredibly good album, and the 5 tracks from it they played in Hamburg, NY last week really came across really well and the crowd received them even better than expected.
Meanwhile, for Journey, we are not even sure what the lineup will be long term, when an album is coming out, if they are on BMG or are releasing it on their own, their single fell completely flat and really went nowhere, and their last national broadcast had Arnel sounding absolutely horrible.
I'm sure glad Styx has their shit together. Journey (Neal) could learn something from them.
What?
I love Styx but they just played Hamburg NY. Meanwhile Journey played Lollapoolaza. Come on Monker.
Monker wrote:
Journey also had a horrible performance on national TV with the CNN concert. They promised an album last July and basically every time Neal was interviewed since. They have no full tour scheduled for this year, only the run in Vegas late this year. The one song they have released went nowhere. They have people moving in and out of the band like it is filled with revolving doors.
Meanwhile Styx released live teasers of full songs that were actually ON THE ALBUM. They released multiple singles and videos. They released the full album. They released extra songs on their "Record store day" album. And, they scheduled a full tour this year and are out there touring. They have had the same lineup for 20yrs now, and added Will as a member due to his contributions to the last two albums. No lawsuites, no band drama, just music - the way it SHOULD be.
Archetype wrote:
Not saying Journey is unknown, but a lot of of relatively unknown artists play Lollapalooza. It’s a huge festival that a lot of artists play at. Styx has played at some huge festivals as well. Journey also didn’t play a single track there written after 1986. Styx is playing 5-6 new songs every night.
Monker wrote:.
Journey also had a horrible performance on national TV with the CNN concert. They promised an album last July and basically every time Neal was interviewed since. They have no full tour scheduled for this year, only the run in Vegas late this year. The one song they have released went nowhere. They have people moving in and out of the band like it is filled with revolving doors.
Meanwhile Styx released live teasers of full songs that were actually ON THE ALBUM. They released multiple singles and videos. They released the full album. They released extra songs on their "Record store day" album. And, they scheduled a full tour this year and are out there touring. They have had the same lineup for 20yrs now, and added Will as a member due to his contributions to the last two albums. No lawsuites, no band drama, just music - the way it SHOULD be.
Styx is mostly playing venues beneath where Journey played on their Red13 tour that was purposely secondary markets. And for the record - I don't understand why Styx (as a fabulous band and one of my faves) is doing that.
It's a bad argument Monker. Tommy would trade band statuses with Schon in a split second. And you know it.
As far as a "horrible performance"... according to who?
but overall Lollapoolaza was a dynamite concert that had them trending on Twitter.
Your revolving door comment? Because they tossed out two lazy fuckers who wanted to retire and still get paid?
Schon-Cain-DeenO-Arnel are a helluva of a tenured core together. Journey wasn't touring this year and Jackson had back surgery. Big effin deal.
Your comment about Journey's single going nowhere: Journey and Styx aren't going to have hit records, Monker.
I couldn't find someone who has heard Styx's new music if I tried in my daily life. I've heard people mention the Journey single.
But since you said Journey wouldn't never release new music I guess this is your newest stretch.
Onestepper wrote:Monker wrote:
Journey also had a horrible performance on national TV with the CNN concert. They promised an album last July and basically every time Neal was interviewed since. They have no full tour scheduled for this year, only the run in Vegas late this year. The one song they have released went nowhere. They have people moving in and out of the band like it is filled with revolving doors.
Meanwhile Styx released live teasers of full songs that were actually ON THE ALBUM. They released multiple singles and videos. They released the full album. They released extra songs on their "Record store day" album. And, they scheduled a full tour this year and are out there touring. They have had the same lineup for 20yrs now, and added Will as a member due to his contributions to the last two albums. No lawsuites, no band drama, just music - the way it SHOULD be.
Well since Journey is evidently letting you down so much, maybe you can go over to the Styx board and hang out there. Doubtful anyone here would miss you.
Monker wrote:
Meanwhile Styx released live teasers of full songs that were actually ON THE ALBUM. They released multiple singles and videos. They released the full album. They released extra songs on their "Record store day" album. And, they scheduled a full tour this year and are out there touring.
Monker wrote:Styx is mostly playing venues beneath where Journey played on their Red13 tour that was purposely secondary markets. And for the record - I don't understand why Styx (as a fabulous band and one of my faves) is doing that.
They are touring. Journey isn't. Styx has their shit together. Journey doesn't.It's a bad argument Monker. Tommy would trade band statuses with Schon in a split second. And you know it.
I don't think so. Right now Styx is working. Journey isn't.
Monker wrote:Your revolving door comment? Because they tossed out two lazy fuckers who wanted to retire and still get paid?
That is only according to Neal. You don't know the full truth...and believing anything Neal says is crazy. Even people on this forum who constantly defend him know he is a bit loopy.
Schon-Cain-DeenO-Arnel are a helluva of a tenured core together. Journey wasn't touring this year and Jackson had back surgery. Big effin deal.
Monker wrote:Your comment about Journey's single going nowhere: Journey and Styx aren't going to have hit records, Monker.
Styx just had a #1 rock album, #5 album overall. Sounds like a 'hit' to me.
Monker wrote:But since you said Journey wouldn't never release new music I guess this is your newest stretch.
No, it's a fact. Styx has their shit together, Journey doesn't. Journey looks like a train wreck right now.
jrnyman28 wrote:Monker wrote:
Meanwhile Styx released live teasers of full songs that were actually ON THE ALBUM. They released multiple singles and videos. They released the full album. They released extra songs on their "Record store day" album. And, they scheduled a full tour this year and are out there touring.
Not saying Journey will get it right (they are notoriously full of missed opportunities) but maybe you should wait until Journey actually has their album ready for release and then you can compare apples to apples.
jrnyman28 wrote:Monker wrote:Styx is mostly playing venues beneath where Journey played on their Red13 tour that was purposely secondary markets. And for the record - I don't understand why Styx (as a fabulous band and one of my faves) is doing that.
They are touring. Journey isn't. Styx has their shit together. Journey doesn't.It's a bad argument Monker. Tommy would trade band statuses with Schon in a split second. And you know it.
I don't think so. Right now Styx is working. Journey isn't.
Same answer for both, let's wait until Journey "gets back to work" and releases their album. Then compare apples to apples.
Monker wrote:Your revolving door comment? Because they tossed out two lazy fuckers who wanted to retire and still get paid?
That is only according to Neal. You don't know the full truth...and believing anything Neal says is crazy. Even people on this forum who constantly defend him know he is a bit loopy.
It could be the truth as easily as not. You don't know either.
You can't use future guesses to prove your theory. As long as Deen stays clean there is no reason to think he will leave again.
Still, Journey has always evolved....always. So why is it a suddenly a problem now?
Monker wrote:Your comment about Journey's single going nowhere: Journey and Styx aren't going to have hit records, Monker.
Styx just had a #1 rock album, #5 album overall. Sounds like a 'hit' to me.
Again, gotta at least wait until the new album is released to doom on the band.
Monker wrote:But since you said Journey wouldn't never release new music I guess this is your newest stretch.
No, it's a fact. Styx has their shit together, Journey doesn't. Journey looks like a train wreck right now.
That is the classic definition of opinion. You were absolutely wrong about Journey releasing new music. The rest is your opinion.
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