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Monker wrote:verslibre wrote:Where's FF?
I'm sure he is with the rest of the Exiles talking about how the Patriots were framed for the capitol riots, that Trump had more people at his goodbye speech than Biden had at the inauguration, how Pence is somehow a neverTrumper and RINO, and posting links and articles on how every Democrat in a power position is going to jail...basically repeating what Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity spew daily. Oh, yeah, and their wonderful insights on Andrew and me and this forum. That is their addictions.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:If you are OK with killing unarmed females with mental issues, then man-up and say that.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:Neither. She was profiled on the news. And she wasn't shot from behind. She was shot in the neck.
I didn't say she was shot from behind. You said the doorway was the only thing standing in the way of her getting access to the VP hallway.
The_Noble_Cause wrote: In reality, there was an armed officer in front of her (the one who killed her) AND the video shows 4 additional armed officers behind her as soon as she hits the floor. So what you're saying is just a bunch of crap.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:Are you disputing that a mob of Q-nuts was trying to breach the hallway?
If you are OK with killing unarmed females with mental issues, then man-up and say that.
scarab wrote:I think the federal officers/security showed incredible constraint not to shoot to kill.
You have a mob coming right after me and they want in (Thank God for thank your ground laws).
This mental issue has little/no bearing cause you would have to be crazy to storm a government building.
verslibre wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:
I didn't say she was shot from behind. You said the doorway was the only thing standing in the way of her getting access to the VP hallway.
Correct.
verslibre wrote:I'm "full of crap" because four other officers did not fire at her? Sounds like that's what you're saying. She was shot by an officer from inside the hallway because she was attempting to get through, by climbing through an aperture where glass had been broken.
verslibre wrote: (Naturally, the right wing journos got busy and speculated she was "antifa" because "they're good at lock-picking"!)
verslibre wrote:She was described as a 45 super-supporter and she went to the Capitol without her husband. Nothing about mental issues.
verslibre wrote:If you're a Qnut, I doubt you will man up and say that.
Monker wrote:It was also not just storming a government building. They were attempting to stop a Constitutional process to count the electors and formally elect Joe Biden. That is treason. They also explicitly screamed their intention to murder Pence and Pelosi...and even had a gallows erected. Carrying the confederate flag is ironic symbolism for what they truly stood for, rebellion against the Constitution of the US.
These people felt entitled to do what they did, egged on by Trump himself.
Monker wrote:Holding her up as some sort of martyr and hero is wrong. She is a traitor to this nation and was shot in the process.
Andrew wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:If you are OK with killing unarmed females with mental issues, then man-up and say that.
You are still an absolute dickhead.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:It was also not just storming a government building. They were attempting to stop a Constitutional process to count the electors and formally elect Joe Biden. That is treason. They also explicitly screamed their intention to murder Pence and Pelosi...and even had a gallows erected. Carrying the confederate flag is ironic symbolism for what they truly stood for, rebellion against the Constitution of the US.
Alot of generalizing going on here.....
Some videos shows the cops standing idly by as Trump voters entered the capitol.
Some protestors, like "capital meemaw" here and others, obviously got swept up in the moment.
These people felt entitled to do what they did, egged on by Trump himself.
He was a mile away and still talking when the capitol was entered. Sounds like you just want to criminalize political speech.
Monker wrote:Holding her up as some sort of martyr and hero is wrong. She is a traitor to this nation and was shot in the process.
Now, if you think breaking a door warrants being slaughtered, you should say that. I think there's alot of people in this thread - mostly Biden supporters - who lack the courage of their convictions on an array of issues.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:1) Trump told them to make their voices heard peacefully. You can say his speech was reckless and you may disagree with it, but it's still protected speech.
2) There is a history of occupation of government buildings in America. From armed Black Panthers in the 60s to anti-Kavanaugh protestors in 2018. Am I prepared to broad brush ALL of these – including the recent Trump supporters - as criminal scum? Nope.
4) Lastly, this video perfectly encapsulates how close we were to the insurrectionists seizing power. Absolutely chilling.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1351540504194912257
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Andrew wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:If you are OK with killing unarmed females with mental issues, then man-up and say that.
You are still an absolute dickhead.
President Biden called for unity in his inaugural address.
Naturally, you keep sowing cyber discord and doing Putin’s bidding.
My natsec friends say MR was down recently because the servers were being relocated to St. Petersburg.
These same people claim the Steele dossier is 100% accurate. So you know it has to be true.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:verslibre wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:
I didn't say she was shot from behind. You said the doorway was the only thing standing in the way of her getting access to the VP hallway.
Correct.
If there were armed officers directly behind her, then your characterization that the doorway was the only thing preventing her and the mob from getting to Pence is crap.verslibre wrote:I'm "full of crap" because four other officers did not fire at her? Sounds like that's what you're saying. She was shot by an officer from inside the hallway because she was attempting to get through, by climbing through an aperture where glass had been broken.
Sounds like you didn't watch the video and are now changing the subject. Your justification of the murder is not corroborated by the facts. Sorry.verslibre wrote: (Naturally, the right wing journos got busy and speculated she was "antifa" because "they're good at lock-picking"!)
Link?verslibre wrote:She was described as a 45 super-supporter and she went to the Capitol without her husband. Nothing about mental issues.
You've been using the term Qnuts and whack jobs to refer to her and the mob throughout this thread. Do you not believe your own posts?verslibre wrote:If you're a Qnut, I doubt you will man up and say that.
Thanks for proving my above point.
Aaron wrote:Do you miss him yet? You literally can't make it up any more. Urbans get what they deserve.
Andrew wrote:Aaron wrote:Do you miss him yet? You literally can't make it up any more. Urbans get what they deserve.
No one misses that fucking idiot.
Aaron wrote:The decision making by the current poser is good with you?
Andrew wrote:Aaron wrote:The decision making by the current poser is good with you?
Following through on the decision already put in motion by The Orange Sphincter?
The world is better off without him and Republican's thinking him running again in 2024 is a good thing, need a frontal labotomy.
Aaron wrote:Nope, may do but I get it, you don't. Take the emotion out of it and look at the data. The decision making by the current poser is good with you? No way. They only thing you can is the free gravy train for the rest of world on our backs is back in play. Do you have the gamma jab yet?
Don't forget Mac, sheep get slaughtered.Andrew wrote:Aaron wrote:Do you miss him yet? You literally can't make it up any more. Urbans get what they deserve.
No one misses that fucking idiot.
Aaron wrote:Dude you have to look at the data, not the emotion and media bs.
Andrew wrote:Aaron wrote:Dude you have to look at the data, not the emotion and media bs.
I do mate. And that's why I see things the way I do. No FAUX News for me
Aaron wrote: Let me know when the vaccine camps are implemented. And don't forget, it started the same in Germany in the mid 30's, same deal, same play book. You'll have a hard time without defense mechanisms.
Monker wrote:
We should have been out of Afghanistan years ago. Yeah, getting out was ugly and could have gone better. But, at least Biden did it. All Trump could do is talk about it. He didn't actually do it. Trump likes to talk big things but when it comes down to it, he did nothing. NOTHING. Leaders do things other then say they are in love with adversaries or how great leaders dictators are, and critique our closest allies. Trump is a fantasy and Trump play into that fantasy by saying what people want to hear, constantly lying, exagerating, completely inventing realities that people like end up believing in. It's crazy and his believers are crazy to.
AR wrote:What about Joe Biden not having enough mental acuity to answer any questions? Shadow president. These 8 months have been embarrassing.
Andrew wrote:AR wrote:What about Joe Biden not having enough mental acuity to answer any questions? Shadow president. These 8 months have been embarrassing.
This point is null and void for the next 4 years, based on the ever present memories of the last 4 years.
AR wrote:No disagreement there. Whatever anyone thought of the last 4 years the last 8 months have been far worse though for U.S. reputation worldwide.
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